Re: PCI-E to PS2
The system that I built in 2020 has a PS/2 port, and an IBM model M works great on it. I've also had good luck with the Monoproce USB-PS/2 adapters on a variety of systems. On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 9:23 AM Tim via users wrote: > > Tim: > >> I'm kind of surprised someone still has PS/2 keyboard/mouse that they'd > >> like to keep using. > > ToddAndMargo: > > One word. It is a "Unicomp". Best typist keyboard ever made. > > I was always partial to the IBM Selectric typewriter keyboards. But, > these days, I'm using $30 mechanical gaming cheapies from Kmart. For a > touch-typist (me) they're reasonably good. Better than many of the > pretend high quality $100+ ones you see in many stores. They're > probably *ALL* made for $3 in China, anyway. About the only things > I'd complain about them on them are too noisy and too sharp edges on > the keys. I do prefer keyboards that clunk rather than squoosh, but > clackety-clack ones drive me around the bend. > > You might just have to try a few different *active* converters, then. > Or, go the whole hog, and get one of those overblown Raspberry Pi kits > just used as a keyboard converter. > > That, or get yourself a newer Unicomp... > > At least an old-school keyboard doesn't have those extra media keys > which are a non-standard extension to deal with. Though the really old > ones are the 5-pin DIN connectors (XT/AT), not PS/2, and may require > more power to run. > > I was surprised that my 2017/2018-era motherboard still had PS/2 ports > on it. I dunno if any motherboards have hidden ones (jumpers on the > motherboard for a flylead to a socket panel). Daughterboard PCI-E > interfaces may allow you to use PS/2 keyboards once booted up, but > aren't likely to be working before that. Boot menus may be a problem. > You could keep a crappy cheapy USB keyboard stashed away for if you > need to change BIOS or UEFI settings. > > -- > > uname -rsvp > Linux 3.10.0-1160.108.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jan 25 16:17:31 UTC 2024 x86_64 > > Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. > I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. > > -- > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Virtualbox vs VMware for Fedora?
If you're still not interested in the QEMU/Libvirt route, this news may interest you, might lead to better compatibility. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39300317 On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 5:03 PM Sbob wrote: > > All; > > > I am running Fedora39, I have run VMware workstation for years, and I > have on and off had issues since VMware does not officially support > Fedora, normally I run a patch after each kernel update and it mostly > just works. > > I am also running the osx unlocker so I can run mac VM's > > > I recently tried virtualbox on a spare laptop, havent looked at > virtualbox in years, and I was impressed, a few questions for the community: > >- can I run the osx unlocker with virtualbox? > > >- does virtualbox have the same issues where it needs a patch after > each kernel and sometimes > just breaks with a new kernel , even with the patch? > -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Mozilla VPN
I've decided to try a new VPN provider, and figured I'd give Mozilla's offering a go. They have a client for Ubuntu, but nothing for Fedora. I tried installing using the instuctions from this website: https://blog.radwell.codes/2021/12/install-mozilla-vpn-rpm-from-binary-on-fedora/ Seemed like a solid way to go about it from the Mozilla github pages, but the end result installs but only gives a blank window when run from the GUI. There is a command line interface, but none of what I tried worked, although I'm still making attempts. This was both on a virtual machine running Fedora 39 desktop, as well as my laptop running Kinoite (39 as well) I can provide more information if anyone has an idea where to go with this, just let me know. Thanks, --murph -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Anyone have recommendations for using VOIP in fedora?
If you want to make phone calls to regular phones, you need something like a SIP service. (Which I know little about) A more simple alternative, if you look into https://jmp.chat they have a free-software-friendly service that allows phone calls and SMS over XMPP which might prove easier to set up. (This is a paid service, but telecom services cost money, so there's probably no easy way around paying someone, somewhere.) On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 11:05 AM stan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Thu, 5 Oct 2023 14:35:32 + > wrote: > > > In the good-ol' days when i ran centos, it was (indeed) Jitsi-client > > (not jitsi-meet), Ekiga, or linphone. But it sounds that you're not > > looking for a real client, but an webrtc package... > > Actually, I think I am looking for a voip client. I'm a noob in this, > so I'm not even sure that I can make that claim, but I think I can. I > don't think I'm looking for webrtc, as that is text based, isn't it. I > want to be able to make calls to telephone numbers via my PC. I would > use a headset with headphones and mic, and talk as if I was on a phone. > I assume there would be some numberpad interface, call log, and contact > list, just like on a smartphone. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Help needed: disabling system wide the Caps lock key in GNOME/Xwayland
Gnome tweaks has a simple solution to this. Install Tweaks through "Software" or dnf install gnome-tweaks Run Tweaks and go to the "Keyboard and Mouse" section. The 4th option down is an "Additional Layout options" button. There are many things you can remap the CapsLock key to, like Esc, ctrl, or my preference a Super key, since I usually use an IBM model M keyboard which does not have one. No need to revert back to X11, or any kind of hardware solution. On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:31 PM Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi gys, > I'm running F38 with *Gnome/X-Wayland*, and in my environment I do not need > (hate it) the *Caps Lock* key.Question: How to realize the disabling system > wide, and how to get it working again? > > Regards > > Joachim Backes > > -- > > Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight) > 6.4.7-200.fc38.x86_64 > > Joachim Backes > https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/ > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: More space needed on the / filesystem to upgrade from F37 to F38
The last few upgrades I've done have taken about an hour, and run very successfully. On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 2:33 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/30/2023 12:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > It does take forever though, and it does download all the rpms > > it needs for the upgrade first, so it needs a lot of free space. > > So you start it late in the day and let the actual upgrade run overnight. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: What is needed to mock build for rhel+epel on Fedora?
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:00 PM Barry Scott > wrote: > >> What do I need to setup to allow mock to build for rhel+epel on Fedora? >> >> I'm getting this error: >> >> $ mock -r rhel+epel-8-x86_64 --print-root >> ERROR: /etc/pki/entitlement is not a directory is subscription-manager >> installed? > > You could also get a developer subscription for RHEL if you like. 16 devices for free. (IIRC) https://developers.redhat.com/ --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Kernel 5.18 Test Week 2022-06-05 through 2022-06-11
I ran a bunch again, but this time I didn't get back any of the notifications. I hope they went through. On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 7:35 AM Luna Jernberg wrote: > done worked on my laptop, had only energy and time to test 1 day of 7,5 > this time around > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 12:19 PM Luna Jernberg > wrote: > >> Hey! >> >> Running the tests today (the last day) been having too much to do and not >> feelt the best earlier this and last week >> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 1:28 PM murph nj wrote: >> >>> I did enough that I should have gotten to Kernel Tester IV in the last >>> Kernel test week. I submitted them with my account, and got back >>> the notifications stating that the tests were run. >>> I'll start working on this round, but it would be good to see that >>> nudged along. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> --murph >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 6:56 AM Sumantro Mukherjee >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 6:08 PM murph nj >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey there: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 4:23 AM Sumantro Mukherjee >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.18 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Needless to say, you will get a badge for participating in all >>>>>> activities talked about in this email! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't feel that badges are the most important thing in the process, >>>>> but they are a fun incentive. >>>>> >>>>> Did the badges get counted for last Kernel test week, in Mid-april? I >>>>> did a bunch, and didn't see a badge. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> --murph >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hey, Thanks for helping out! >>>> We have Kernel Science Tester badge given out after a few sets of >>>> successful report submission. >>>> Make sure to submit your log file by signing in to >>>> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/kerneltest. >>>> Submission should trigger the badge allocation... but if it doesn't let >>>> me know after the test week, I need to >>>> file things to the badges team. >>>> >>>> We have a Kernel Test Week Participation badge is underway as well >>>> https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/622 >>>> >>>> Happy Testing! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> //sumantro >>>> Fedora QE >>>> TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED <https://redhat.com/trusted> >>>> ___ >>>> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> Fedora Code of Conduct: >>>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>>> List Archives: >>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: >>>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >>>> >>> ___ >>> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >>> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> List Archives: >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: >>> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >>> >> ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Kernel 5.18 Test Week 2022-06-05 through 2022-06-11
I did enough that I should have gotten to Kernel Tester IV in the last Kernel test week. I submitted them with my account, and got back the notifications stating that the tests were run. I'll start working on this round, but it would be good to see that nudged along. Thanks, --murph On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 6:56 AM Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 6:08 PM murph nj wrote: > >> Hey there: >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 4:23 AM Sumantro Mukherjee >> wrote: >> >>> Hey All, >>> >>> I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.18 >>> >> >> >>> Needless to say, you will get a badge for participating in all >>> activities talked about in this email! >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> I don't feel that badges are the most important thing in the process, but >> they are a fun incentive. >> >> Did the badges get counted for last Kernel test week, in Mid-april? I >> did a bunch, and didn't see a badge. >> >> Thanks, >> --murph >> > > Hey, Thanks for helping out! > We have Kernel Science Tester badge given out after a few sets of > successful report submission. > Make sure to submit your log file by signing in to > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/kerneltest. > Submission should trigger the badge allocation... but if it doesn't let me > know after the test week, I need to > file things to the badges team. > > We have a Kernel Test Week Participation badge is underway as well > https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/622 > > Happy Testing! > > > -- > //sumantro > Fedora QE > TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED <https://redhat.com/trusted> > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Kernel 5.18 Test Week 2022-06-05 through 2022-06-11
Hey there: On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 4:23 AM Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > Hey All, > > I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.18 > > Needless to say, you will get a badge for participating in all > activities talked about in this email! > > > I don't feel that badges are the most important thing in the process, but they are a fun incentive. Did the badges get counted for last Kernel test week, in Mid-april? I did a bunch, and didn't see a badge. Thanks, --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: LUKS on shutdown.
When I try to umount them: /home and /other show as not mounted. / on the other hand, says busy. There are 4 entries in crypttab, the two listed by name above, presumably /, and I don't know what the other is. It is only listed by uuid, not sure how to correlate it to a mounted drive. When I got the output of /proc/mounts, lots of logical entries, and "/" Appeared to be the only real partition mounted. (proc, sysfs, none, and many more were there) On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 11:33 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/4/21 19:15, murph nj wrote: > > > > > > Got another opportunity, redirected lsof /home and lsof /other to > > files, and there was no output. > > > Interesting... Is there an error if you try to unmount those yourself? > > > > I did get output from systemctl-list-jobs (edited lightly) > > > > JOB UNIT TYPE STATE > > 6039 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2dshome.service stop running > > 6068 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2de8.service stop running > > 6055 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2dsother.service stop running > > 6047 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2d23.service stop running > > > Home and other make sense given your earlier comment, but what are the > other two? Do the number of entries in /etc/crypttab match the number > of LUKS partitions? (What's in /proc/mounts during the failed shutdown?) When I try to umount them: /home and /other show as not mounted. / on the other hand, says busy. There are 4 entries in crypttab, the two listed by name above, presumably /, and I don't know what the other is. It is only listed by uuid, not sure how to correlate it to a mounted drive. When I got the output of /proc/mounts, (from the console when it was failing to shut down) lots of logical entries, and "/" Appeared to be the only real partition mounted. (proc, sysfs, none, and many more were there) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: LUKS on shutdown.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 11:33 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/4/21 19:15, murph nj wrote: > > > > > > Got another opportunity, redirected lsof /home and lsof /other to > > files, and there was no output. > > > Interesting... Is there an error if you try to unmount those yourself? > > Remember, all of the output (and the command line I'm typing on) is immediately erased by the cylon eye, so I'll try (next time it does it) and try to redirect stdout, and stderr to a file, typing blind. > > > I did get output from systemctl-list-jobs (edited lightly) > > > > JOB UNIT TYPE STATE > > 6039 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2dshome.service stop running > > 6068 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2de8.service stop running > > 6055 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2dsother.service stop running > > 6047 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2d23.service stop running > > > Home and other make sense given your earlier comment, but what are the > other two? Do the number of entries in /etc/crypttab match the number > of LUKS partitions? (What's in /proc/mounts during the failed shutdown?) > > I think they do line up, I'll do my best to confirm, and get the information from /proc/mounts. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: LUKS on shutdown.
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 2:06 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/1/21 18:03, murph nj wrote: > > > > lsof showed nothing that I could see. > > > Nothing, or nothing interesting? I'd expect you to at least see the CWD > of the debug shell. > > Got another opportunity, redirected lsof /home and lsof /other to files, and there was no output. > > > The stop job rotates between four mounted volumes, and the > > lvm2-monitor.service. > > > In the past, I've seen lvm2-monitor behave badly in reaction to logical > volumes (block devices) used for VMs that used LVM internally. Do you > have any logical volumes that aren't used for those four mounted volumes? > > No LVM, as mentioned earlier > > > systemctl status doesn't seem to display much, but the stop job (and > > cylon eye) keep overwriting everything, making it really hard to see > > the output. > > > Several suggestions: Chris suggested that you check "systemctl > list-jobs". The contents of /proc/mounts might be interesting. I'd run > "lsof /path" where path is the longest mount point path of the volumes > still listed in /proc/mounts. > I did get output from systemctl-list-jobs (edited lightly) JOB UNIT TYPE STATE 5788 poweroff.target start waiting 6039 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2dshome.service stop running 5790 shutdown.target start waiting 6031 final.target start waiting 6068 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2de8.service stop running 6055 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2dsother.service stop running 6013 lvm2-monitor.service stop running 6047 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2d23.service stop running 6032 umount.target start waiting 5789 systemd-poweroff.service start waiting 10 jobs listed. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: LUKS on shutdown.
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 2:06 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/1/21 18:03, murph nj wrote: > > > > lsof showed nothing that I could see. > > > Nothing, or nothing interesting? I'd expect you to at least see the CWD > of the debug shell. > > The error messages were continuously overwriting everything in the shell. If it was a single line, I may not have been able to read it. > > > The stop job rotates between four mounted volumes, and the > > lvm2-monitor.service. > > > In the past, I've seen lvm2-monitor behave badly in reaction to logical > volumes (block devices) used for VMs that used LVM internally. Do you > have any logical volumes that aren't used for those four mounted volumes? > > No LVM on this system. (I don't recall why, I'm not averse to LVM, but this one doesn't have it.) > > > systemctl status doesn't seem to display much, but the stop job (and > > cylon eye) keep overwriting everything, making it really hard to see > > the output. > > > Several suggestions: Chris suggested that you check "systemctl > list-jobs". The contents of /proc/mounts might be interesting. I'd run > "lsof /path" where path is the longest mount point path of the volumes > still listed in /proc/mounts. > > I'll give it a shot next time it hangs up on shutdown. Any ideas on how to make the error messages abate (in the debug shell) so that I can read these things more easily? Thanks, --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: LUKS on shutdown.
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 8:35 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 4:13 PM Gordon Messmer > wrote: > > > > On 9/30/21 12:41, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Seems likely to me some service is not quitting properly, preventing / > > > from being unmounted > > > > > > If that were the case, there might be information about an exit failure > > in the log. On the next boot, "journalctl -b -1" might have useful info. > > > > I also wonder if enabling sysrq and using sysrq+'t' would help determine > > which process is stuck: > > It might but it's also really verbose, so for starters "systemctl > list-jobs" is the path of least resistance I suspect. Report suggests > the systemd cylon eye, which suggests a job is running and not exiting > as you say, so list the jobs and then do a systemctl status on each > one of them to find out what they are up to. > > > Well, I finally enabled the shell, and it (as it is intermittent) hung up on shutdown. lsof showed nothing that I could see. The stop job rotates between four mounted volumes, and the lvm2-monitor.service. (The lvm2.monitor finally stopped, the volumes have not) systemctl status doesn't seem to display much, but the stop job (and cylon eye) keep overwriting everything, making it really hard to see the output. Perhaps let me let everyone off the hook though. I was thinking about it, and started digging into the logs. This system has been upgraded up from at least Fedora 30, my dnf logs start in 2019-06. (It may even predate that, not sure) So, as far as dragging people through debugging seems somewhat futile to me, unless collectively you think that it is worthwhile to pursue this. I'm game if this can help the Fedora community, but the system is working, I can back up, and do a fresh install after a long time of good service after so many upgrades. (I've done all of them, and even switched to the beta track when it got close a few times) Any thoughts? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: [Test Week] Fedora Linux Kernel 5.15 2021-11-14 through 2021-11-21
Funny, after I posted this, I found where the email acknowledgements for the tests came in, and then, a flood of badge messages as well. So, problem solved. If someone did something in the background, thanks! On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 4:02 PM murph nj wrote: > Not that the badges are the important part, they are fun, so here's a > question. > > How does one find out if the suite was run correctly? I ran them in the > past, both by running it with the .config file with my credentials, as well > as putting it in the testday wiki. (I think the 5.10, or maybe earlier?) > Is one or the other sufficient? > > Never got the badge, nor do I recall any kind of feedback as to it being > accepted and useful. I've run one this time as well. > > I'm still running it, and happy to do so to help the cause, but the badge > would be fun as well. > > Thanks, > --murph > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 4:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee > wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.15 >> Test week is happening from 2021-11-14 to 2021-11-21. It's >> fairly simple, head over to the wiki [0] and read in detail about the >> test week and simply run the test case mentioned in[1] and enter your >> results. >> >> As usual, the Fedora QA team will hangout at #fedora-test-...@libera.chat >> for question and >> discussion. >> >> If you are someone who is just starting out, remember that we give out >> badges[2] for >> testing new Kernel Builds! >> Collect 'em now :) >> >> [0] >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2021-11-14_Kernel_5.15_Test_Week >> [1] https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/125 >> [2] https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/science-kernel-tester-i >> >> >> >> -- >> //sumantro >> Fedora QE >> TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED >> ___ >> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >> > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: [Test Week] Fedora Linux Kernel 5.15 2021-11-14 through 2021-11-21
Not that the badges are the important part, they are fun, so here's a question. How does one find out if the suite was run correctly? I ran them in the past, both by running it with the .config file with my credentials, as well as putting it in the testday wiki. (I think the 5.10, or maybe earlier?) Is one or the other sufficient? Never got the badge, nor do I recall any kind of feedback as to it being accepted and useful. I've run one this time as well. I'm still running it, and happy to do so to help the cause, but the badge would be fun as well. Thanks, --murph On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 4:32 AM Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > Hey All, > > I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.15 > Test week is happening from 2021-11-14 to 2021-11-21. It's > fairly simple, head over to the wiki [0] and read in detail about the > test week and simply run the test case mentioned in[1] and enter your > results. > > As usual, the Fedora QA team will hangout at #fedora-test-...@libera.chat > for question and > discussion. > > If you are someone who is just starting out, remember that we give out > badges[2] for > testing new Kernel Builds! > Collect 'em now :) > > [0] > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2021-11-14_Kernel_5.15_Test_Week > [1] https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/125 > [2] https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/science-kernel-tester-i > > > > -- > //sumantro > Fedora QE > TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
LUKS on shutdown.
I'm having an issue shutting down. Fedora 34, just updated to 35, same problem. (It was around in 33 as well, I've been putting up with it.) I know that there is another list for beta versions, but this issue was there in the current version as well. Somewhere around 1 out of every 10 shutdowns, the system goes down to "[ OK ] Reached target System Shutdown", but then, "[ *** ] a stop job is running for Cryptography setup for luks-" It typically goes for about 1/2 hour if I don't get fed up, and hold the power button down. I just saw after that 1/2 hour: [Time] Timed out starting System Reboot Forcibly Rebooting: job timed out. audit: type=1334. I still had to power it off. On reboot, it seems OK. I haven't found anything interesting in /var/log/messages regarding it. Any suggestions to further troubleshooting? Thanks, --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
LUKS on shutdown.
I'm having an issue shutting down. Fedora 34, just updated to 35, same problem. (It was around in 33 as well, I've been putting up with it.) Somewhere around 1 out of 10 shutdowns, the system goes down to "[ OK ] Reached target System Shutdown", but then, [ *** ] a stop job is running for Cryptography setup for luks- It typically goes for about 1/2 hour if I don't get fed up, and hold the power button down. I just saw after that 1/2 hour: [Time] Timed out starting System Reboot Forcibly Rebooting: job timed out. audit: type=1334. I still had to power it off. On reboot, it seems OK. I haven't found anything interesting in /var/log/messages regarding it. Any suggestions to further troubleshooting? Thanks, --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Lenovo reputation.
Richard: (and/or anyone else with strong feelings about Lenovo) I have a question regarding your experience with Lenovo. I have always had a problem with the "Superfish" incident that they had a few years ago. Of course that particular invasive spyware was Windows-only, but what happens if they decide to target Linux users with similar malicious software. In other words, do you trust them to have reformed in this regard, and why? Thanks, --murph On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 4:05 AM Richard Hughes wrote: > > I think calling Lenovo a "joke" considering how much progress they've > made in the last 18 months is a huge mischaracterization. I buy Lenovo > and I've been Linux-exclusive for about the last 15 years. > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora Zoom? -
You also may be able to use the web interface. I've used it successfully. On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:48 PM Bob Goodwin wrote: > I have a request from the VA to do a video interview rather than the > usual secure text messages. > > "Do you have the ability to do a video appointment (you would need a > computer with a camera or a tablet or a smartphone)." > > We have iPhones etc. that might work but my daughter suggests that I > need 'Zoom' on my Fedora 32 computer since I have trouble with the > smaller mobile devices. Is there a Linux equivalent application I can > run from my desktop workstation? > > Bob > > -- > > Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA > http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD > FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3 > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Motherboard recommendations
I just put together a new machine for myself. ASRock B450M Pro 4 (you have to make sure that a firmware update was done on the board for this CPU, early ones were not ready for the newer CPU) Ryzen 7 3700X (I used my existing nVidia 750Ti card, which requires their proprietary drivers.) Everything seems to work flawlewssy. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:17 AM Fulko Hew wrote: > > I'm looking for the best bang for my buck, and of course > Linux (Fedora) compatibility. My criteria are simple: > - inexpensive > - best bang for the buck > - must have PCIe 3.0 x 16 slot > > If I pick Intel based, I'm pretty much assured everything will work, > but it seems that going AMD will get me better bang-for-the-buck, > but ... will all the parts work with Linux? > > I'm currently looking at a Gigabyte B450M DS3H with an AMD Ryzen 5 3600 > CPU. > > Does anyone have experience with it, or can recommend anything else > comparable and 'current'. > > Thanks > Fulko > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > Symbolic links missing on / (/bin->/usr/bin and such). > /bin/bash missing or corrupted. > /lib64/ libraries missing or corrupted. > systemd itself missing, pivot root attempts to run systemd and that > may be what is failing, but you don't really know what the underlying > cause is for it to fail. > > What exactly was the "improper shutdown" > > The easiest way to debug is to livecd boot it mount up the old > filessystems on say /oldroot (rootfs) mount /oldroot/usr for usr and > so forth and then cd /oldroot and do a "chroot ." > > I would expect the chroot . to fail with some sort of error that may > hint at what is broken. > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 7:15 AM murph nj wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:07 PM Tony Nelson > > wrote: > > > > > > Usually, when it all goes wrong just after pivot-root, there is a > > > problem with the new (real) root. Exactly how it goes wrong is not > > > useful. I would look hard at whatever is mounted at /sysroot. It > > > should be what you expect / (root) to be, but mounted ro at that point > > > (`cat /proc/mounts` should show it mounted at /sysroot (see `man 5 > > > fstab` > > > for format); `ls -l /sysroot` should show the contents you expect). > > > (All off the top of my head; I haven't rebooted to test.) I was able to mount all of the boot drives, and it seemed OK, I couldn't see anything that was out of order. Unfortunately, I'm going to need this laptop next weekend, so my journey of discovery on this is going to have to end, since I couldn't fix it, I'll have to reload. We gave it a shot though, and I have some new things to try for other potential issues. Again thanks for the help. --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > Symbolic links missing on / (/bin->/usr/bin and such). > /bin/bash missing or corrupted. > /lib64/ libraries missing or corrupted. > systemd itself missing, pivot root attempts to run systemd and that > may be what is failing, but you don't really know what the underlying > cause is for it to fail. > > What exactly was the "improper shutdown" A failing battery (I think) caused it to shut down when I wasn't ready, and didn't shut down properly. Then I accidentally opened the lid, which started it again, and it again shut down cold. I wouldn't think that would corrupt things, but it's all I have for now. I'll dig into this tomorrow probably. > > The easiest way to debug is to livecd boot it mount up the old > filessystems on say /oldroot (rootfs) mount /oldroot/usr for usr and > so forth and then cd /oldroot and do a "chroot ." > > I would expect the chroot . to fail with some sort of error that may > hint at what is broken. > I'll try that. Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:07 PM Tony Nelson wrote: > > Usually, when it all goes wrong just after pivot-root, there is a > problem with the new (real) root. Exactly how it goes wrong is not > useful. I would look hard at whatever is mounted at /sysroot. It > should be what you expect / (root) to be, but mounted ro at that point > (`cat /proc/mounts` should show it mounted at /sysroot (see `man 5 > fstab` > for format); `ls -l /sysroot` should show the contents you expect). > (All off the top of my head; I haven't rebooted to test.) > Thanks. That gives me something to examine. I'm working tonight, will probably dig back in to this tomorrow. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
Tony: Can you give me some insight as to what the boot process does next AFTER that pivot point? The output I'm getting isn't enlightening me, and I'm not quite sure where to look next. I can just reinstall, but I'm trying to learn more about how to recover from errors, instead of taking the east way out. Thanks, --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:08 AM sixpack13 wrote: > > e2fsck is for ext -partitions > AFAIK /boot/efi is fat ! You are correct. I already checked, all the partitions are fine. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:56 PM Tony Nelson wrote: > > > It dies trying to pivot-root, so add to the kernel command line > > rd.break=pre-pivot > Interesting. I was able to drop to a shell. I took a look at the journal, and it looked like a possible hibernation problem, so I took that out of the kernel line. Still panicked. I'll have to pick this up tomorrow afternoon. I'll try to get a dump of the journal then and send it along. Thanks for the help so far! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:42 PM murph nj wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:21 PM stan via users > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:05:36 -0400 > > murph nj wrote: > > > > > I was able to mount the drives, and check them, no problems. > > > > Did that include the boot partition, where the kernels and initramfs' > > are? > > > > I had not, but on your suggestion, I did. And > Sorry, responded prematurely. I meant to say that both the volumes that are mounted as /boot and /boot/efi check out OK. thanks, --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:21 PM stan via users wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:05:36 -0400 > murph nj wrote: > > > I was able to mount the drives, and check them, no problems. > > Did that include the boot partition, where the kernels and initramfs' > are? > I had not, but on your suggestion, I did. And > > I also took a look at the journals that were left, there was nothing > > that seemed terribly indicative of the problem.It was all from the > > last time that it was running normally, nothing was getting written on > > the failed boot attempts, unfortunately. > > Did you remove rhgb and quiet from the kernel boot parameters? That > should show you the stream of messages from systemd as the system > boots, and the error should be near the end of that stream, so it > should still be on screen when the crash happens. I think you hit > space or escape during boot to get the boot menu, and then you can edit > the line. I have a timeout, so I always see it. > I had not, but I edited from the grub menu, and eliminated them. I was then able to see the messages. (I was able to see them previously by hitting the escape key right after entering my password for the disks.) Everything left on the screen after the kernel panic is (too much to type) https://imgur.com/a/kf81crl > Does it drop to a dracut or grub prompt? If it does, it is also > possible to view the temporary boot logs from there (I think they are > under /tmp (/var/tmp?)). It's painful because the shell is very limited. > Use > ls /bin > to see the available commands. I think less is there, as is vi. Unfortunately, it goes right to a kernel panic, so no prompts at all to work with. (I'd have chewed on it more before asking for help if I had more to work with) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
I was able to mount the drives, and check them, no problems. I was also able to move all of my important data off of the drives to an external, so I'm not worried about any loss to the data on the drives. No worries of fatal mistakes anymore. I also took a look at the journals that were left, there was nothing that seemed terribly indicative of the problem.It was all from the last time that it was running normally, nothing was getting written on the failed boot attempts, unfortunately. On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:56 PM stan via users wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 12:33:59 -0400 > murph nj wrote: > > > The power supply was not the problem, it was the battery. All > > subsequent testing has been done plugged into power. It also boots > > just fine from a USB stick with either Mint or Fedora. > > > > There are three kernels available from the boot menu, along with > > rescue mode. All of them kernel panic. > > Does it get far enough along to put messages in the journal? You could > run a boot that fails, then boot from the USB, and mnt the installed > filesystem (usually under /mnt/sysimage), chroot to /mnt/sysimage, and > run journalctl -b to look at boot messages. > > Before you do that, boot from the USB, and then run a file system check > on the drives in the system while they are not mounted. For ext4, that > would be e2fsck -n -v /dev/sd??, answer no to any queries (make no > changes), and verbose messages. If it wants to fix things, and the > changes look OK, run with -p instead of -n. See man e2fsck; this is > your filesystem, you want to know what you are doing; a mistake can be > fatal. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:45 AM stan via users wrote: > > > The switch root is changing from the initramfs to the installed OS. If > there is a power problem, it is possible that memory is not working > properly, and disk reads are erronious. Fix the power supply before > you go any further. Any testing will yield questionable results until > that is resolved. > Thanks for the response. The power supply was not the problem, it was the battery. All subsequent testing has been done plugged into power. It also boots just fine from a USB stick with either Mint or Fedora. There are three kernels available from the boot menu, along with rescue mode. All of them kernel panic. --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.
Hi all: I've got an odd problem that I was hoping for some help on. The laptop was previously working fine, I am running F30, updated regularly. I've got an Acer laptop that has been shutting down suddenly. (I suspect a bad battery, working on that.) After a sudden shutdown last night, I now get a kernel panic on boot right after "Starting Switch Root..." I was able to boot from a USB stick, and was able to read the journal, but I didn't see anything obvious to help. I was able to get all of my data off of the (encrypted) disks, so that's not a problem, but I don't want to just give up, and wash and reload too quickly. Any suggestions? Thanks, --murph ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
