Re: [HEADS UP]: OpenSSH 7.2 to Fedora 23

2016-03-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar  3 09:53, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> On 03/03/2016 09:31 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >Hi Jakub,
> >
> >On Mar  2 17:48, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> >>Hi there,
> >>I just pushed openssh-7.2 update [1] into Fedora 23 testing. There are no
> >>incompatible changes except these:
> >As I reported to the openssh-unix-dev list, as well as in
> >https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/openssh-7.2p1-1.fc23,
> >this release silently removes the /usr/bin/slogin symlink pointing to
> >/usr/bin/ssh, because upstream removed the Makefile commands creating
> >it at install time.  Same for slogin.1 -> ssh.1.
> >
> >This will break lots of installations (scripts, keyboard shortcuts, etc).
> >
> >For the Cygwin distro I now added the missing rules to the spec file,
> >along the lines of
> >
> >   cd ${DESTDIR}/usr/bin
> >   ln -s ./ssh.exe slogin
> >   cd ${DESTDIR}/usr/share/man/man1
> >   ln -s ./ssh.1 slogin.1
> >
> >Please create slogin in the rpm spec file as well.
> Thanks for the notice. My bad that I thought that symlink is just ancient
> stuff from old times. I will respin update with restored symlink for Fedora
> 23.
> 
> Do you think that we need to carry this symlink even to Fedora 24? Do you
> have some examples of scripts using slogin? They should probably also get
> fixed.

I'm not aware of scripts in the distro using slogin.  But I'm aware of
user installations using slogin.  The slogin symlink exists for 20 years
now.  Just removing it is bound to break local configurations for no
good reason.

If upstream can't be bothered to keep up with slogin it's bad, but from
my POV a distro should not break user configurations if it's not a big
problem to keep them running.  So, yes, I think the symlinks should be
maintained by the distros in future.


Corinna


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Re: [HEADS UP]: OpenSSH 7.2 to Fedora 23

2016-03-03 Thread Jakub Jelen

On 03/03/2016 09:31 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:

Hi Jakub,

On Mar  2 17:48, Jakub Jelen wrote:

Hi there,
I just pushed openssh-7.2 update [1] into Fedora 23 testing. There are no
incompatible changes except these:

As I reported to the openssh-unix-dev list, as well as in
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/openssh-7.2p1-1.fc23,
this release silently removes the /usr/bin/slogin symlink pointing to
/usr/bin/ssh, because upstream removed the Makefile commands creating
it at install time.  Same for slogin.1 -> ssh.1.

This will break lots of installations (scripts, keyboard shortcuts, etc).

For the Cygwin distro I now added the missing rules to the spec file,
along the lines of

   cd ${DESTDIR}/usr/bin
   ln -s ./ssh.exe slogin
   cd ${DESTDIR}/usr/share/man/man1
   ln -s ./ssh.1 slogin.1

Please create slogin in the rpm spec file as well.
Thanks for the notice. My bad that I thought that symlink is just 
ancient stuff from old times. I will respin update with restored symlink 
for Fedora 23.


Do you think that we need to carry this symlink even to Fedora 24? Do 
you have some examples of scripts using slogin? They should probably 
also get fixed.


Upstream also probably didn't see it as a big deal:
https://anongit.mindrot.org/openssh.git/commit/?id=69fead5d7cdaa73bdece9fcba80f8e8e70b90346

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[HEADS UP]: OpenSSH 7.2 to Fedora 23

2016-03-02 Thread Jakub Jelen

Hi there,
I just pushed openssh-7.2 update [1] into Fedora 23 testing. There are 
no incompatible changes except these:


 * the minimum modulus size supported for diffie-hellman-group-exchange
   was increased to 2048 bits,
 * several legacy cryptographic algorithms and MD5-based and truncated
   HMAC algorithms were disabled on client side.

which might be some trouble when connecting to old systems. If you need 
to use some of these fancy ciphers or HMACs, you need to configure your 
client to use them explicitly, for example:


ssh -o Ciphers=+blowfish-cbc -o MACs=+hmac-md5-96 your_host

or store appropriate values to the  ~/.ssh/config. SSH should now also 
yield reasonable messages when it was not able to negotiate particular 
algorithms.


My tests passed and the package is already for few days in rawhide and 
f24, but another testing would be appreciated, especially quick check if 
some of your common use cases are not disturbed. And there are also some 
fancy features you might want to give a try such ad-hoc adding keys to 
ssh-agent or new keyword  restrict  to use in authorized_keys  file [2].


Thanks for attention and have a great day,

[1] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/openssh-7.2p1-1.fc23
[2] http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.2

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