subject:"AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31"

>
> 90% of it isn't worth keeping for even a day, let alone
> forever.


Well regardless, I hate being blindsided.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:17 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 05/04/2020 08:23 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> >
> > Permanent deletion should not be allowed in Thunderbird.
>
> Including spam?  Not everybody wants all of their email kept on the
> server forever.  90% of it isn't worth keeping for even a day, let alone
> forever.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-04 Thread Joe Zeff


On 05/04/2020 08:23 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:


Permanent deletion should not be allowed in Thunderbird.


Including spam?  Not everybody wants all of their email kept on the 
server forever.  90% of it isn't worth keeping for even a day, let alone 
forever.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

>
> If a function moves a message to Trash, it isn't "deleted" it
> is moved to a folder called Trash (the default setting). Even when it
> comes to "deleting" a message there
> are options in "Server Settings".  One of which is actually deletion.


Well it seems I have shot myself in the foot here. No point in
continuing this discussion any further. As it is it is off-topic.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-04 Thread Ed Greshko

On 2020-05-04 22:23, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
>
> In any event, it now sounds as if you want to move messages out of your 
> "inbox" after a given period of time.
> For that, you'd use "Message Filters" located in Tools.  
>
>
> No that is not what I want. I don't want local copies of messages more than 
> 90 days old. I still want them on the server. I DONT WANT ANYTHING DELETED 
> FROM THE SERVER. 
>
> The retention option is really dangerous I wish you told me that they would 
> be permanently deleted. 
>
> Permanent deletion should not be allowed in Thunderbird.
>
> Even when I delete a message in Gmail it goes to Trash. 
>

If you go to "Account Settings", "Synchronization & Storage" it does spell out 
what happens.

The "retention option" is only dangerous if you don't realize what it is saying.

I suppose I take the term "delete" literally.  If a function moves a message to 
Trash, it isn't "deleted" it
is moved to a folder called Trash (the default setting). Even when it comes to 
"deleting" a message there
are options in "Server Settings".  One of which is actually deletion.


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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

>
> In any event, it now sounds as if you want to move messages out of your
> "inbox" after a given period of time.
> For that, you'd use "Message Filters" located in Tools.


No that is not what I want. I don't want local copies of messages more than
90 days old. I still want them on the server. I DONT WANT ANYTHING DELETED
FROM THE SERVER.

The retention option is really dangerous I wish you told me that they would
be permanently deleted.

Permanent deletion should not be allowed in Thunderbird.

Even when I delete a message in Gmail it goes to Trash.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 7:38 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 2020-05-04 21:45, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > Well I set the retention policy to 90 days and it went ahead and deleted
> all my mails from the server in that time period. Now I don't know what to
> do. It permanently deleted them. This is why I don't use email clients.
> >
> > Any way to recover them ?
>
> Well, I did write "And tell T-Bird to delete messages after a given
> number of days".  I thought the
> term "delete" was self-explanatory.
>
> I don't think there is a way to recover them since if you look at the
> Account Setting you'd find the global
> settings which informs the user of its actions.
>
> Bottom line, it the messages aren't in Trash they are gone.
>
> In any event, it now sounds as if you want to move messages out of your
> "inbox" after a given period of time.
> For that, you'd use "Message Filters" located in Tools.
>
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-04 Thread Ed Greshko

On 2020-05-04 21:45, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> Well I set the retention policy to 90 days and it went ahead and deleted all 
> my mails from the server in that time period. Now I don't know what to do. It 
> permanently deleted them. This is why I don't use email clients.
>
> Any way to recover them ?

Well, I did write "And tell T-Bird to delete messages after a given number 
of days".  I thought the
term "delete" was self-explanatory.

I don't think there is a way to recover them since if you look at the Account 
Setting you'd find the global
settings which informs the user of its actions. 

Bottom line, it the messages aren't in Trash they are gone.

In any event, it now sounds as if you want to move messages out of your "inbox" 
after a given period of time.
For that, you'd use "Message Filters" located in Tools.


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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

Well I set the retention policy to 90 days and it went ahead and deleted
all my mails from the server in that time period. Now I don't know what to
do. It permanently deleted them. This is why I don't use email clients.

Any way to recover them ?

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 3:48 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 2020-05-02 18:04, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 5/2/20 12:57 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5/2/20 2:36 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >>> I use Thunderbird for my personal email and Evolution for work
> (Exchange server).  In Thunderbird, I can press CTRL-SHIFT-L and it will
> send to the list address and not the individual sender.
> >>
> >> Sir, you have converted me into a Thunderbird user. It is awesome. Let
> me know if the quoting is correct or not.
> >>
> >> I just have one question - my mailbox is huge but I want Thunderbird to
> keep mail for lets say the last 3 months. How do I do that ?
> >
> > Not sure what you're asking there.  Thunderbird will access all your
> mail.  Since you're using gmail, all the mail stays on the server and
> Thunderbird keeps a local cache for quick access.
>
> Well, while what you say is true, the OP may be like me.  While I do have
> email sorted to folders I don't want to
> keep some emails past a given period of time.  (this account is on gmail
> servers) I don't have the discipline triage.
> And I just don't want to see them any longer or be tempted to scroll
> through emails from 2018.  :-) :-)
>
> So, I use the nice feature of T-Bird.
>
> Right-Click on the folder you wish to manage.  Pick "Retention Policy"
> And tell T-Bird to delete messages
> after a given number of days.  I manage folders individually rather than a
> single "account setting".
>
>
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread stan via users

On Fri, 01 May 2020 20:12:05 -
"Sreyan Chakravarty"  wrote:

> > On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:33:54 -
> > "stan" ; wrote:

> > Check at the website of the builder of your laptop, and
> > maybe ask them if it is possible.  That's the simplest solution.  No
> > dice?  

> I can try but most probably they wont reply, even if they did I don't
> think they would know anything about Linux or open-source drivers.
> They are focussed for Windows. 

The link suggested that oems went to multiplexed gpus to save money.
If hardware muxing costs $10 per laptop, and they sell 100,000 laptops,
they save a million dollars.  But, it might only cost a few cents to
put a hardware jumper on the motherboard that can be set to one or the
other as primary.  With their superior knowledge of the system, they
might be able to point you to that.  It was a long shot, and you are
probably correct that there is no way to do this in the hardware.  That
would have nothing to do with windows or linux, hardware only.

> > I was going to suggest building a kernel without the intel driver   
> 
> Ok before I about compiling my own kernel I would like to inform you
> about what I have done so far.
> 
> So I have followed the instructions of :
> 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics

As Samuel pointed out, those instructions don't apply to your
situation.  The link I sent provided a non switcheroo workaround under
X, if your two gpu devices met requirements.  I take it that those
instructions were either too complex for you to follow, appeared too
risky to follow, or were under X and you only want this to work under
wayland.

A low risk command from those instructions to see your hardware under
xrandr.  Can be run as normal user.
xrandr --listproviders

I see you have received a lot of help from others, probably better help
than I could give, so I am going to stop here.  But thanks for the
information, I like the learning.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Francis . Montagnac

Hi.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 13:16:37 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> On 5/2/20 5:55 AM, Roger Heflin wrote:
>> You will want these commands:
>> sudo "echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
>> sudo "echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"

> These commands fail with the error:

> sudo: echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: command not found

This should work:

  sudo bash -c "echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
  sudo bash -c "echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"

For a small graphical bench I use glmark2, for a 10s test, for
example 'glmark2 -b build'

with an nvidia card:

  glmark2 -b build
  ===
  glmark2 2017.07
  ===
  OpenGL Information
  GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
  GL_RENDERER:   Quadro K4000/PCIe/SSE2
  GL_VERSION:4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.59
  ===
  [build] : FPS: 6507 FrameTime: 0.154 ms
  ===
glmark2 Score: 6507 
  ===

without: (from within an Xvnc virtual session):

  glmark2 -b build
  ** GLX does not support GLX_EXT_swap_control or GLX_MESA_swap_control!
  ** Failed to set swap interval. Results may be bounded above by refresh rate.
  ===
  glmark2 2017.07
  ===
  OpenGL Information
  GL_VENDOR: VMware, Inc.
  GL_RENDERER:   llvmpipe (LLVM 9.0, 256 bits)
  GL_VERSION:3.1 Mesa 19.2.8
  ===
  ** GLX does not support GLX_EXT_swap_control or GLX_MESA_swap_control!
  ** Failed to set swap interval. Results may be bounded above by refresh rate.
  [build] : FPS: 330 FrameTime: 3.030 ms
  ===
glmark2 Score: 330 
  ===

I'm interested to know if you obtain good results when configuring
vgaswitcheroo.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Mike Flannigan



Right click on any folder, Properties, Retention Policy.
Also read this:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1113291


Mike


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Sir, you have converted me into a Thunderbird user. It is awesome. Let 
me know if the quoting is correct or not.


I just have one question - my mailbox is huge but I want Thunderbird 
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Ed Greshko

On 2020-05-02 18:04, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/2/20 12:57 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
>>
>> On 5/2/20 2:36 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> I use Thunderbird for my personal email and Evolution for work (Exchange 
>>> server).  In Thunderbird, I can press CTRL-SHIFT-L and it will send to the 
>>> list address and not the individual sender.
>>
>> Sir, you have converted me into a Thunderbird user. It is awesome. Let me 
>> know if the quoting is correct or not.
>>
>> I just have one question - my mailbox is huge but I want Thunderbird to keep 
>> mail for lets say the last 3 months. How do I do that ?
>
> Not sure what you're asking there.  Thunderbird will access all your mail.  
> Since you're using gmail, all the mail stays on the server and Thunderbird 
> keeps a local cache for quick access.

Well, while what you say is true, the OP may be like me.  While I do have email 
sorted to folders I don't want to
keep some emails past a given period of time.  (this account is on gmail 
servers) I don't have the discipline triage.
And I just don't want to see them any longer or be tempted to scroll through 
emails from 2018.  :-) :-)

So, I use the nice feature of T-Bird.

Right-Click on the folder you wish to manage.  Pick "Retention Policy"  And 
tell T-Bird to delete messages
after a given number of days.  I manage folders individually rather than a 
single "account setting".

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 5/2/20 12:55 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

But the root question remains:

What do I do with extra hardware ? Is there no pragmatic use under Linux ?


Nothing to do with Linux, it's whatever you find a use for.  For just 
general desktop use it's not really useful.


In Windows there is gaming, but that doesn't make sense in Linux. I was 
hoping to hook up all my displays to this discrete graphics card and get 
better performance.


My kids play games in Linux and sometimes so do I.  How does that not 
make sense?



But as you say that is not going to happen.

So what can I use this for ? Any ideas?


Why go out of your way to find a use for it?  If you don't have a use, 
then don't worry about it.


If you can find an application that uses a lot of 3D rendering (which 
usually means a game), you can compare the frame rate between running 
it with each option. 


I play a lot of games under Windows, but I have no idea about games that 
are graphics intensive in Linux.


What if I run a graphics bench-marking software rather than a game ?


That would be perfect.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 5/2/20 12:57 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:


On 5/2/20 2:36 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I use Thunderbird for my personal email and Evolution for work 
(Exchange server).  In Thunderbird, I can press CTRL-SHIFT-L and it 
will send to the list address and not the individual sender.


Sir, you have converted me into a Thunderbird user. It is awesome. Let 
me know if the quoting is correct or not.


I just have one question - my mailbox is huge but I want Thunderbird to 
keep mail for lets say the last 3 months. How do I do that ?


Not sure what you're asking there.  Thunderbird will access all your 
mail.  Since you're using gmail, all the mail stays on the server and 
Thunderbird keeps a local cache for quick access.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty



On 5/2/20 2:36 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I use Thunderbird for my personal email and Evolution for work 
(Exchange server).  In Thunderbird, I can press CTRL-SHIFT-L and it 
will send to the list address and not the individual sender.


Sir, you have converted me into a Thunderbird user. It is awesome. Let 
me know if the quoting is correct or not.


I just have one question - my mailbox is huge but I want Thunderbird to 
keep mail for lets say the last 3 months. How do I do that ?


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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty


On 5/2/20 2:41 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

But it doesn't give you any benefit.  For the window manager and most 
application, you would never notice the difference.  It might even be 
slower using the AMD gpu because of all the copies back and forth.


That might actually explain why running "time tree /" took longer on the 
terminal launched on the graphics card than the one launched on the 
integrated graphics.


But the root question remains:

What do I do with extra hardware ? Is there no pragmatic use under Linux ?

In Windows there is gaming, but that doesn't make sense in Linux. I was 
hoping to hook up all my displays to this discrete graphics card and get 
better performance.


But as you say that is not going to happen.

So what can I use this for ? Any ideas?


If you can find an application that uses a lot of 3D rendering (which 
usually means a game), you can compare the frame rate between running 
it with each option. 


I play a lot of games under Windows, but I have no idea about games that 
are graphics intensive in Linux.


What if I run a graphics bench-marking software rather than a game ?

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-02 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty



On 5/2/20 5:55 AM, Roger Heflin wrote:

You will want these commands:
sudo "echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
sudo "echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"

that will run the redirect under the sudo.


Nopes.

These commands fail with the error:

sudo: echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: command not found

Which makes sense since the entire string in quotes will be treated as 
one single command.



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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-01 Thread Roger Heflin

You will want these commands:
sudo "echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
sudo "echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch"

that will run the redirect under the sudo.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-01 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 5/1/20 1:12 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

I was going to suggest building a kernel without the intel driver


Ok before I about compiling my own kernel I would like to inform you about what 
I have done so far.


I'm pretty sure if you do that, you will have a bad situation.  You will 
end up stuck with the efi frame buffer which is really slow.



So I have followed the instructions of :

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics


Not the highlighted caveat: "if your machine has a hardware mux" which 
it seems likely that yours doesn't.



The tutorial then instructs to turn on the discrete graphics and connect it to 
the graphics output using these two commands:

sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
sudo echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch

Now is were things get weird.

Running these two commands with "sudo" results in a permission denied error.

bash: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Permission denied

Which is weird, I mean what the hell is the point of using "sudo".


Those instructions can't work.  The problem is that the redirection is 
done by the shell before sudo is run.  So you've opened the "file" as 
your user and it doesn't matter what user the command is run as, it 
can't write to the file descriptor.



Running these commands as root - DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
No error. No lockup. Nothing.


Because there's nothing it can do.


I even checked the status using the command mentioned above and it still gave 
me the same output where the discrete graphics is turned off and the integrated 
one is used.

I have to tell you, I was doing all this in Wayland and not X.

Weirldy after modifying the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX I am getting "radeon" in my boot 
log.
You can find my entire log here:
https://pastebin.com/3wqhaDAY


fbcon: i915drmfb (fb0) is primary device
i915 :00:02.0: fb0: i915drmfb frame buffer device
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-01 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 5/1/20 1:18 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

On 4/28/20 4:14 AM, Samuel Sieb via users wrote:

The reason you can't turn it off from the bios is likely because that
isn't possible.  There obviously aren't separate video out ports for
each device.  My understanding of how this works is that the better GPU
(AMD in this case) is used for 3D rendering to a buffer and then that
buffer is copied into the other (Intel) device for outputting to the
display.  If you blacklist the i915, you will have no graphics at all.


You might be right.


My question to the OP is why do you want to do this?


Because I want to actually use the hardware that I have.


But it doesn't give you any benefit.  For the window manager and most 
application, you would never notice the difference.  It might even be 
slower using the AMD gpu because of all the copies back and forth.



  So if you really do need that for
something, use the right-click menu option.


There is no way to verify that the card is being used. If you could just help 
me to verify that the card is actually used or not then this whole problem 
would be solved.

Is there any way to verify this? Any application I run that wouldn't run on the 
Integrated Graphics but would run on the discrete card ?


If you can find an application that uses a lot of 3D rendering (which 
usually means a game), you can compare the frame rate between running it 
with each option.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-01 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 5/1/20 1:23 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:39:11 -
"stan" wrote:
You won't get excommunicated for not following the guidelines, but you
are less likely to get help.  :-)


Okay this will probably be the dumbest question you have got but can you tell me what 
email client allows "quoting". I mean what is best for these types mailing 
lists.


Most real email clients (not web-based) do decent quoting.


I actually have to copy in and change the information manually, which probably 
won't be accurate and is annoying AF.

Could you tell me a mailing client for mailing lists ? Or rather how you go 
about replying to mails in these lists.


I use Thunderbird for my personal email and Evolution for work (Exchange 
server).  In Thunderbird, I can press CTRL-SHIFT-L and it will send to 
the list address and not the individual sender.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-01 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

> On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:39:11 -
> "stan" wrote:
> You won't get excommunicated for not following the guidelines, but you
> are less likely to get help.  :-)

Okay this will probably be the dumbest question you have got but can you tell 
me what email client allows "quoting". I mean what is best for these types 
mailing lists. 

I actually have to copy in and change the information manually, which probably 
won't be accurate and is annoying AF.

Could you tell me a mailing client for mailing lists ? Or rather how you go 
about replying to mails in these lists.

Thanks.

Regards,
Sreyan 
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-01 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

> On 4/28/20 4:14 AM, Samuel Sieb via users wrote:
> 
> The reason you can't turn it off from the bios is likely because that 
> isn't possible.  There obviously aren't separate video out ports for 
> each device.  My understanding of how this works is that the better GPU 
> (AMD in this case) is used for 3D rendering to a buffer and then that 
> buffer is copied into the other (Intel) device for outputting to the 
> display.  If you blacklist the i915, you will have no graphics at all.

You might be right. 

> My question to the OP is why do you want to do this?  

Because I want to actually use the hardware that I have.

>  So if you really do need that for 
> something, use the right-click menu option.

There is no way to verify that the card is being used. If you could just help 
me to verify that the card is actually used or not then this whole problem 
would be solved.

Is there any way to verify this? Any application I run that wouldn't run on the 
Integrated Graphics but would run on the discrete card ?

Regards,
Sreyan
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-05-01 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

> On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:33:54 -
> "stan" ; wrote:
> 
> 
> I recall you saying
> that you have no way of turning off the intel gpu from the bios.  Is
> that true?  

Unfortunately no way to switch off the Intel Graphics from the BIOS.

> Check at the website of the builder of your laptop, and
> maybe ask them if it is possible.  That's the simplest solution.  No
> dice?

I can try but most probably they wont reply, even if they did I don't think 
they would know anything about Linux or open-source drivers. They are focussed 
for Windows. 

> I was going to suggest building a kernel without the intel driver 

Ok before I about compiling my own kernel I would like to inform you about what 
I have done so far.

So I have followed the instructions of :

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics

The first thing it asks you to do is add a kernel parameter to 
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, so I added the following parameter :

radeon.modeset=1

Now I rebooted and checked the status as per the instructions in the page. I 
used the command:

sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch

Output:
0:DIS: :DynOff::01:00.0
1:IGD:+:Pwr::00:02.0

So far so good.
This makes sense since I suspected the Integrated Graphics was being used and 
the Discrete Graphics card ie. AMD was off.

The tutorial then instructs to turn on the discrete graphics and connect it to 
the graphics output using these two commands:

sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
sudo echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch

Now is were things get weird.

Running these two commands with "sudo" results in a permission denied error.

bash: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: Permission denied

Which is weird, I mean what the hell is the point of using "sudo".

Running these commands as root - DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
No error. No lockup. Nothing.

I even checked the status using the command mentioned above and it still gave 
me the same output where the discrete graphics is turned off and the integrated 
one is used.

I have to tell you, I was doing all this in Wayland and not X.

Weirldy after modifying the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX I am getting "radeon" in my boot 
log.
You can find my entire log here:
https://pastebin.com/3wqhaDAY

(I hope I am not exposing any sensitive information)

So any suggestions ? Anything at all ?

Regards,
Sreyan 
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-27 Thread Tim via users

On Mon, 2020-04-27 at 15:39 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> You won't get excommunicated for not following the guidelines, but
> you are less likely to get help.  :-)

That's certainly true.  There are some quite knowledgeable people on
the internet (not just this mailing list), who are quite willing to
help where they can.  Some of them will just delete messages that are
difficult to follow.  And it's always in your best interest to make it
easy to read something when you're asking for help.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-27 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 4/27/20 4:20 PM, stan via users wrote:

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:33:54 -
"Sreyan Chakravarty"  wrote:


How would you solve this in X ?


Caveat, I have never had to deal with this issue because I have never
had two gpus.

But, here goes.  If you want to be sure that only the gpu you desire
runs, you need to ensure that the driver for the other is not loaded,
or the gpu you want to use is explicitly selected.  I recall you saying
that you have no way of turning off the intel gpu from the bios.  Is
that true?  Check at the website of the builder of your laptop, and
maybe ask them if it is possible.  That's the simplest solution.  No
dice?


The reason you can't turn it off from the bios is likely because that 
isn't possible.  There obviously aren't separate video out ports for 
each device.  My understanding of how this works is that the better GPU 
(AMD in this case) is used for 3D rendering to a buffer and then that 
buffer is copied into the other (Intel) device for outputting to the 
display.  If you blacklist the i915, you will have no graphics at all.


My question to the OP is why do you want to do this?  You can't turn off 
the Intel device and using the AMD one is only useful if you're doing 
some sort of intensive graphics.  So if you really do need that for 
something, use the right-click menu option.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-27 Thread stan via users

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:33:54 -
"Sreyan Chakravarty" wrote:

> How would you solve this in X ?

Caveat, I have never had to deal with this issue because I have never
had two gpus.

But, here goes. If you want to be sure that only the gpu you desire
runs, you need to ensure that the driver for the other is not loaded,
or the gpu you want to use is explicitly selected. I recall you saying
that you have no way of turning off the intel gpu from the bios. Is
that true? Check at the website of the builder of your laptop, and
maybe ask them if it is possible. That's the simplest solution. No
dice?

Next thing to try is to put a file in /etc/modprobe.d blacklisting the
intel module. See man modprobe.d for how to do that. lsmod should
show you the name of the intel module. I think it is i915. This will
only work if the module is not built into the kernel, which is
unlikely, but worth a try. You can check by doing a
grep -i i915 [boot/config-blahblah]
of the config file for the kernel you are running in /boot. I am
running a custom kernel with it disabled, so can't check what
stock fedora kernels do, or the correct term to use in the grep.

I was going to suggest building a kernel without the intel driver either
built in or loadable next, but I found this link and learned something.
You could try the technique described therein. It uses xrandr, so
needs to be used under X.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/578666/how-do-i-switch-my-display-controller-to-radeon-instead-of-the-built-in-intel-gr

If that doesn't work, I would still try building a custom kernel
without i915 support, but with support for the other gpu. The kernel
should then default to using the only gpu, though I'm less sure of that
after reading the above article, and its comments about muxless gpus.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-27 Thread stan via users

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:32:11 -
"Sreyan Chakravarty"  wrote:

> > PS  Since you are becoming a regular on the list, you should start
> > observing the posting etiquette.  Trimming irrelevant material from
> > replies, and posting responses inline after the pertinent material
> > they reference.  
> 
> Apologies.

Not necessary.  How would you know?

> I think that is because I was replying from Gmail.

Yes, that makes sense, it follows the Windows protocol, I think.

> Can you tell me if this post is ok or not according to forum
> guidelines ?

I think it is fine.  Rather than rules, think of it as treating the
reader (the person being asked for help) with respect.  They don't have
to remember the issue because the context is there, and they don't have
to scroll through reams of material to get to the meat of the message.

You won't get excommunicated for not following the guidelines, but you
are less likely to get help.  :-)
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Mon, 2020-04-27 at 16:32 +, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > PS  Since you are becoming a regular on the list, you should start
> > observing the posting etiquette.  Trimming irrelevant material from
> > replies, and posting responses inline after the pertinent material they
> > reference.
> 
> Apologies.
> 
> I think that is because I was replying from Gmail.
> 
> Can you tell me if this post is ok or not according to forum guidelines ?

Nearly, however you quoted part of a previous message without
attribution, which is bad style. Note how my quote of your comment says
who it's from and when it was posted. Most mail clients do this
correctly by default, however I see you're using HyperKitty, so you'll
have to do it by hand.

Or better, don't use HyperKitty.

poc
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-27 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

 > So, my
> recommendation is for you to get your issue solved in X, and once it is
> solved there, see if wayland will pick up the solution from X, or run
> wayland on X.
> 

How would you solve this in X ?
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-27 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

> PS  Since you are becoming a regular on the list, you should start
> observing the posting etiquette.  Trimming irrelevant material from
> replies, and posting responses inline after the pertinent material they
> reference.

Apologies.

I think that is because I was replying from Gmail.

Can you tell me if this post is ok or not according to forum guidelines ?
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-23 Thread stan via users

On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 12:19:49 +0530
Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:

> Just tell me something:
> 
> Is there a support forum for Wayland ?
> 
> Maybe a mailing list ? I can only see a wayland-devel mailing list.
> 
> Where do I ask support questions for Wayland ?
> 
> Xorg has a nice users lists that I have used in the past, but I find
> nothing like that for Wayland.

I know little about wayland, only that it is touted as the replacement
for X because it runs with lower privilege.  However, X has 20 to 30
years of corner case handling built in, and that long for people to
develop utilities for it.  So, it is much easier to do customization
and forensics.  The wayland devs are properly focusing their efforts
where they get the most bang for the buck, which isn't all those corner
cases or custom utilities.  If wayland persists, those will come in
time, but, as far as I can see, they are not there now.  So, my
recommendation is for you to get your issue solved in X, and once it is
solved there, see if wayland will pick up the solution from X, or run
wayland on X.

I don't run wayland because it doesn't yet have in place handling for
custom keyboard layouts, one of those corner cases.  When I tried to
get around that by having my keyboard layout become part of the
official keyboard layouts, I found that the process for doing that in X
is defunct.  So, between and betwixt, I still run X, and hope that by
the time X is deprecated many years hence, the capability will be in
wayland.

PS  Since you are becoming a regular on the list, you should start
observing the posting etiquette.  Trimming irrelevant material from
replies, and posting responses inline after the pertinent material they
reference.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

Just tell me something:

Is there a support forum for Wayland ?

Maybe a mailing list ? I can only see a wayland-devel mailing list.

Where do I ask support questions for Wayland ?

Xorg has a nice users lists that I have used in the past, but I find
nothing like that for Wayland.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 1:58 AM AV  wrote:

> On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 16:07 +, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 23:19 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > > So read up a little on this so you won't be confused by
> > > advice
> >
> > I actually tried to understand what was the deal with switcheroo from
> > here:
> >
> https://developer.gnome.org/switcheroo-control/stable/gdbus-net.hadess.SwitcherooControl.html
> >
> > But it provided no workable insights.
> >
> > On my system I only have a switcheroo binary running from
> > /usr/libexec/switcheroo
> >
> > Other than that there seem to be no configurable options.
>
> Your original question/problem has slipped my mind.
> But I gather that you have a hybrid laptop with Intel
> CPU and AMD GPU. I have no personal experience with
> such beasts but I would think that it 'justs works'
> with recent kernels and radeon/amdgpu drivers.
>
> The problem is of course 'what' is working the Intel
> graphics or the AMD graphics. And you would like to be
> able to use either one by command.
>
> First make sure everything is up and running:
> lsmod |grep radeon amdgpu
> dnesg |grep radeon amdgpu
>
> Then you can try the commands specified in
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
> (that is how switcheroo is used!)
>
> BUT: This only works under Xorg not Wayland
> something like xrandr does not exist for Wayland.
> AND: I am not 100% sure but I belief that switcheroo
> is not suited for radeon/amdgpu. If you want to specify
> which GPU is going to be used you have to use the PRIME
> option (with commands DRI_PRIME = 0 or DRI_PRIME = 1) see
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU
>
> On Wayland you can get some info about running graphics
> with 'glxinfo' see
> https://vstinner.github.io/debug-hybrid-graphics-issues-linux.html
>
> AV
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-22 Thread AV

On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 16:07 +, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 23:19 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > So read up a little on this so you won't be confused by
> > advice
> 
> I actually tried to understand what was the deal with switcheroo from
> here:
> https://developer.gnome.org/switcheroo-control/stable/gdbus-net.hadess.SwitcherooControl.html
> 
> But it provided no workable insights.
> 
> On my system I only have a switcheroo binary running from 
> /usr/libexec/switcheroo
> 
> Other than that there seem to be no configurable options.

Your original question/problem has slipped my mind.
But I gather that you have a hybrid laptop with Intel
CPU and AMD GPU. I have no personal experience with
such beasts but I would think that it 'justs works'
with recent kernels and radeon/amdgpu drivers.

The problem is of course 'what' is working the Intel
graphics or the AMD graphics. And you would like to be
able to use either one by command.

First make sure everything is up and running:
lsmod |grep radeon amdgpu
dnesg |grep radeon amdgpu

Then you can try the commands specified in 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
(that is how switcheroo is used!)

BUT: This only works under Xorg not Wayland
something like xrandr does not exist for Wayland.
AND: I am not 100% sure but I belief that switcheroo
is not suited for radeon/amdgpu. If you want to specify
which GPU is going to be used you have to use the PRIME
option (with commands DRI_PRIME = 0 or DRI_PRIME = 1) see
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU

On Wayland you can get some info about running graphics
with 'glxinfo' see
https://vstinner.github.io/debug-hybrid-graphics-issues-linux.html 

AV

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

> On 4/20/20 10:49 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> 
> That appears to be a tool for managing multiple video devices like you have.

You know what is funny is that I launched 2 terminals - one with the option 
"Launch using dedicated graphics card" and one normally.

Then I ran the command 
time tree /
on both the terminals

The one that was launched normally actually completed before the one that was 
launched on the GPU.

I don't understand even if Fedora is correctly using the GPU, there seems to be 
no way to confirm it. 
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

> On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 23:19 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> So read up a little on this so you won't be confused by
> advice

I actually tried to understand what was the deal with switcheroo from here:
https://developer.gnome.org/switcheroo-control/stable/gdbus-net.hadess.SwitcherooControl.html

But it provided no workable insights.

On my system I only have a switcheroo binary running from 
/usr/libexec/switcheroo

Other than that there seem to be no configurable options.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

> On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 11:27 +, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> 
> Have a look at this url:
> https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Dynamic-Switchable-Graphics-vs-Nvidia-O...
> It is rather old info but might give you an indication of where
> the problem lies.
> I have no relevant knowledge of Intel CPU/AMD GPU hybrid laptops
> so can be of no further help. The hybrid pc's have always been
> a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under
> Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age
> of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication.
> 
> AV

The link that you have shared is just a summary of the technology used. It does 
not offer any real way or insight on how I can solve this problem.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread George N. White III

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 14:34, Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:

> In that
>> case, I did a text mode install and then install the (Nvidia)
>> drivers for the discrete graphics to get around the GUI installer's
>> attempts to use bumblebee (linux optimus support).
>
>
> Could yo
>


> u tell me how you did a text mode install ? Via Kickstart ?
>

I used Ubuntu, but anaconda also does text mode.


>
> I didn't know that there was a way to start the Anaconda installer via
> command line.
>
> Please share.
>
>
https://www.dariawan.com/tutorials/linux/install-linux-fedora-text-mode/


> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 5:13 PM George N. White III 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 08:27, Sreyan Chakravarty 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> > With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent
>>> > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor.
>>>
>>> I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old.
>>>
>>
>> Optimus goes back 10 years, but I don't know if it  was used with
>> removable graphics cards.In any case, if you want to run everything
>> using the graphics card you are in the same pickle I had when the
>> software controlled switch failed in my 2010 Macbook Pro.   In that
>> case, I did a text mode install and then install the (Nvidia)
>> drivers for the discrete graphics to get around the GUI installer's
>> attempts to use bumblebee (linux optimus support).
>>
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread VO

On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 23:19 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > The hybrid pc's have always been
> > a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under
> > Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age
> > of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication.
> 
> I have an application called Switcheroo running, do you know what
> that is for ? 
> 
> See also the following:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics

AV
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 4/20/20 10:49 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

The hybrid pc's have always been
a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under
Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age
of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication.


I have an application called Switcheroo running, do you know what that 
is for ?


That appears to be a tool for managing multiple video devices like you have.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread VO

On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 23:19 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > The hybrid pc's have always been
> > a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under
> > Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age
> > of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication.
> 
> I have an application called Switcheroo running, do you know what
> that is for ? 

Yes, I will give a reference below but first this:There are at least 2
kinds of hybrid graphics laptops1) Intel CPU (including Intel discrete
graphics chip) & Nvidia GPU2) Intel CPU (including Intel discrete
graphics chip) & AMD GPUWhat works for 1) need not work for 2) and vice
versa with respectto configuration and switching. With respect to 1)
the code words were 'optimus', 'switcheroo'and more recently
'prime'.With respect to 2) the code word I know is  'dynamic switchable
graphics'and how this works under Linux I have no idea.Furthermore AMD
used to have a closed source driver (I think theystill have, was almost
impossible to install under Linux) and themore recent opensource
'amdgpu' driver that as far as I knowworks with all the latest AMD
GPU's. So read up a little on this so you won't be confused by
advicethat might only apply to the  1)  situation!A reference for
switcheroo is:https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Optimus/but as far
as I know this only applies to the 1) situation
> Have a look at this url:
> > https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Dynamic-Switchable-Graphics-vs-Nvidia-Optimus.64378.0.html
> > 
> > It is rather old info but might give you an indication of where
> > 
> > the problem lies.
> > 
> 
> AV
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

>
> The hybrid pc's have always been
> a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under
> Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age
> of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication.


I have an application called Switcheroo running, do you know what that is
for ?

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:13 PM VO  wrote:

> On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 11:27 +, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > > With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent
> > > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor.
> >
> > I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old.
>
> Have a look at this url:
>
> https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Dynamic-Switchable-Graphics-vs-Nvidia-Optimus.64378.0.html
> It is rather old info but might give you an indication of where
> the problem lies.
> I have no relevant knowledge of Intel CPU/AMD GPU hybrid laptops
> so can be of no further help. The hybrid pc's have always been
> a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under
> Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age
> of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication.
>
> AV
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

>
> In that
> case, I did a text mode install and then install the (Nvidia)
> drivers for the discrete graphics to get around the GUI installer's
> attempts to use bumblebee (linux optimus support).


Could you tell me how you did a text mode install ? Via Kickstart ?

I didn't know that there was a way to start the Anaconda installer via
command line.

Please share.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 5:13 PM George N. White III 
wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 08:27, Sreyan Chakravarty 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent
>> > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor.
>>
>> I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old.
>>
>
> Optimus goes back 10 years, but I don't know if it  was used with
> removable graphics cards.In any case, if you want to run everything
> using the graphics card you are in the same pickle I had when the
> software controlled switch failed in my 2010 Macbook Pro.   In that
> case, I did a text mode install and then install the (Nvidia)
> drivers for the discrete graphics to get around the GUI installer's
> attempts to use bumblebee (linux optimus support).
>
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread VO

On Mon, 2020-04-20 at 11:27 +, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent
> > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor.
> 
> I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old.

Have a look at this url:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Dynamic-Switchable-Graphics-vs-Nvidia-Optimus.64378.0.html
It is rather old info but might give you an indication of where
the problem lies.
I have no relevant knowledge of Intel CPU/AMD GPU hybrid laptops
so can be of no further help. The hybrid pc's have always been
a bit troublesome to configure. As recent AMD graphics runs under
Wayland without problems it might have something to do with the age
of your AMD chip and/or the hybrid complication.

AV
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread George N. White III

On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 at 08:27, Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:

>
> > With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent
> > to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor.
>
> I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old.
>

Optimus goes back 10 years, but I don't know if it  was used with
removable graphics cards.In any case, if you want to run everything
using the graphics card you are in the same pickle I had when the
software controlled switch failed in my 2010 Macbook Pro.   In that
case, I did a text mode install and then install the (Nvidia)
drivers for the discrete graphics to get around the GUI installer's
attempts to use bumblebee (linux optimus support).

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> With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent
> to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor.

I don't have Optimus as my laptop is old.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-20 Thread George N. White III

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:54, Roger Heflin  wrote:

> In most of the laptops with additional graphics cards I don't believe
> the intel card is even going to be wired to the display at all.
>

Few laptops have video cards.  Many have both chipset graphics (Intel HD)
and a discrete graphics chip soldered to the system board with output being
passed through the discrete graphics system.

"Nvidia Optimus is a computer GPU switching technology created by Nvidia
which, depending on the resource load generated by client software
applications,
will seamlessly switch between two graphics adapters within a computer
system
in order to provide either maximum performance or minimum power draw from
the system's graphics rendering hardware." -- Wikipedia

This technology uses some sort of software controlled switch.  I had a
ca 2010 Macbook Pro with an early version.  The switch failed after the
(extended) warranty period.  I had to install in text mode and manually set
up the graphics without switching support (Bumblebee).   This worked
for years using the discrete graphics (but only used for short periods off
AC power).


> Graphics cards own the display, there is no wiring that lets you
> switch from one to the other unless you have a desktop and can move
> the cable from one port to the other.  On mine I can direct ffmpeg to
> use the encoder processor on the intel card (this laptop nvidia I have
> does not have nvenc), but otherwise it is unlikely to be wired to
> anything and just happens to be there because it is built into the
> intel chipset that the laptop is otherwise usig
>

With Optimus, output of the hardware graphics processor is sent
to the frame buffer of the integrated graphics processor.


> You should be able to google wayland and figure out where the logs are
> being put (may be in journald), but I don't believe there is even an
> intentional way to get the intel chipset to display on anything
> (unless one would take apart the laptop and do some soldering to the
> unconnected intel wires.
>

This may apply to some laptops with removable graphics cards,
but it does not apply to laptops with Nvidia Optimus technology.

>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:23 PM Anthony F McInerney 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 18:16, Anthony F McInerney 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:55, Sreyan Chakravarty 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I don't know specifically about wayland as I don't use it, but on
> Xorg
> >>> > there is a log file that tells you exactly what it found and will
> give
> >>> > you more details on the card it is using.
> >>>
> >>> Do you know if there is any way I can contact the Wayland devs maybe,
> there doesn't seem to be a whole lot support for it, yet it ships as the
> default option in Fedora.
> >>>
> >>> > If it change my grep I find this:
> >>> > lspci | grep -i nvid
> >>> > 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce 940MX] (rev
> a2)
> >>> > 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio
> >>> > Controller [GeForce 940MX] (rev a1)
> >>>
> >>> You are right if I replace VGA with amd in my grep, I can see my card:
> >>>
> >>> $ lspci | grep -i amd
> >>> 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun
> XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile] (rev
> 83)
> >>>
> >>> But my question is that VGA means that it is using the Intel Graphics
> for all display operations right ? If so is there any way to transfer all
> that to the AMD card ?
> >>>
> >>> Forget about Wayland, is there any way to do that in Xorg ?
> >>
> >>
> >> It would seem (from what i can find quickly) that wayland will indeed
> use the primary one by default. This can be fixed if you can just disable
> the intel one in the bios?
> >>
> >> If you want continue with Xorg, start by making sure that you have the
> package installed  xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu . And then have a look through the
> wiki link for any other information.
> >>
> >> If you cannot disable the intel and want to continue with Xorg, you
> will need to add /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files to configure X to select the
> right GPU.
> >>
> >> Let us know what you want to do. (It would seem disable in the bios
> would be the fasted option all round)
> >
> >
> > On top of all that I should explain something else:
> >
> > GDM (assuming you are using this) uses Wayland/Mutter by default and it
> runs on TTY1 (at the moment that uses the intel card).
> >
> > By default it launches your GNOME/Mutter session on another TTY
> (ctrl+alt+fX) that will also at the moment default to intel card.
> >
> > If you set GNOME session to be Xorg, and configure xorg to use amdgpu,
> that would leave mutter on TTY1 (ctrl+alt+f1) runnin on the intel card and
> your session on the amdgpu.
> >
> > Which sounds kinda nice?
> >
> > *But you can edit the /etc/gdm.conf to run on Xorg instead and use the
> amgpu.
>
>

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

> On 4/19/20 6:07 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> 
> Why do you think it's not being used?
 
Because there is an option to launch any application with the option "Launch 
using dedicated graphics cards".

This would imply that the primary display adapter is the inbuilt Intel Graphics.

I want to to know how I can launch every application even my display manager 
with my dedicated graphics card, by fdefault.
 
> Trying installing the "egl-utils" package and run "eglinfo" and see
> what 
> it says.

This is the output of "eglinfo":

EGL client extensions string:
EGL_EXT_device_base EGL_EXT_device_enumeration EGL_EXT_device_query
EGL_EXT_platform_base EGL_KHR_client_get_all_proc_addresses
EGL_EXT_client_extensions EGL_KHR_debug EGL_EXT_platform_wayland
EGL_EXT_platform_x11 EGL_MESA_platform_gbm
EGL_MESA_platform_surfaceless EGL_EXT_platform_device

GBM platform:
EGL API version: 1.5
EGL vendor string: Mesa Project
EGL version string: 1.5
EGL client APIs: OpenGL OpenGL_ES 
EGL extensions string:
EGL_ANDROID_blob_cache EGL_EXT_buffer_age
EGL_EXT_create_context_robustness EGL_EXT_image_dma_buf_import
EGL_KHR_cl_event2 EGL_KHR_config_attribs EGL_KHR_create_context
EGL_KHR_create_context_no_error EGL_KHR_fence_sync
EGL_KHR_get_all_proc_addresses EGL_KHR_gl_colorspace
EGL_KHR_gl_renderbuffer_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_2D_image
EGL_KHR_gl_texture_3D_image EGL_KHR_gl_texture_cubemap_image
EGL_KHR_image EGL_KHR_image_base EGL_KHR_image_pixmap
EGL_KHR_no_config_context EGL_KHR_reusable_sync
EGL_KHR_surfaceless_context EGL_EXT_pixel_format_float
EGL_KHR_wait_sync EGL_MESA_configless_context EGL_MESA_drm_image
EGL_MESA_image_dma_buf_export EGL_WL_bind_wayland_display
Configurations:
 bf lv colorbuffer dp st  msvis   cav bi  renderable  supported
  id sz  l  r  g  b  a th cl ns bid   eat nd gl es es2 vg surfaces 
-
0x01 32  0  8  8  8  8  0  0  0 0 0x34325241-- y  y  y win
0x02 32  0  8  8  8  8 16  0  0 0 0x34325241-- y  y  y win
0x03 32  0  8  8  8  8 24  0  0 0 0x34325241-- y  y  y win
0x04 32  0  8  8  8  8 24  8  0 0 0x34325241-- y  y  y win
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

> In most of the laptops with additional graphics cards I don't believe
> the intel card is even going to be wired to the display at all.

I don't think that is the case. The reason being that there is an option to 
launch programs using "a dedicated graphics card" in Gnome. I think GNOME is 
using the in-built graphics as default.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

> If you set GNOME session to be Xorg, and configure xorg to use amdgpu, that
> would leave mutter on TTY1 (ctrl+alt+f1) runnin on the intel card and your
> session on the amdgpu.
> 
> Which sounds kinda nice?
> 
> *But you can edit the /etc/gdm.conf to run on Xorg instead and use the
> amgpu.

Is there no way to do the same in Wayland ?
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

> It would seem (from what i can find quickly) that wayland will indeed use
> the primary one by default. This can be fixed if you can just disable the
> intel one in the bios?

I have no option in my BIOS to disable Intel Graphics. There is no option for 
graphics in my BIOS.
> If you want continue with Xorg, start by making sure that you have the
> package installed  xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu . And then have a look through the
> wiki link for any other information.

Nope, I want to stay with wayland. Just wish there was better documentation.

> Let us know what you want to do. (It would seem disable in the bios would
> be the fasted option all round)

I want to continue with Wayland with my AMD card as the primary display adapter.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-19 Thread Roger Heflin

In most of the laptops with additional graphics cards I don't believe
the intel card is even going to be wired to the display at all.
Graphics cards own the display, there is no wiring that lets you
switch from one to the other unless you have a desktop and can move
the cable from one port to the other.  On mine I can direct ffmpeg to
use the encoder processor on the intel card (this laptop nvidia I have
does not have nvenc), but otherwise it is unlikely to be wired to
anything and just happens to be there because it is built into the
intel chipset that the laptop is otherwise usig

You should be able to google wayland and figure out where the logs are
being put (may be in journald), but I don't believe there is even an
intentional way to get the intel chipset to display on anything
(unless one would take apart the laptop and do some soldering to the
unconnected intel wires.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:23 PM Anthony F McInerney  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 18:16, Anthony F McInerney  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:55, Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:
>>>
>>> > I don't know specifically about wayland as I don't use it, but on Xorg
>>> > there is a log file that tells you exactly what it found and will give
>>> > you more details on the card it is using.
>>>
>>> Do you know if there is any way I can contact the Wayland devs maybe, there 
>>> doesn't seem to be a whole lot support for it, yet it ships as the default 
>>> option in Fedora.
>>>
>>> > If it change my grep I find this:
>>> > lspci | grep -i nvid
>>> > 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce 940MX] (rev a2)
>>> > 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio
>>> > Controller [GeForce 940MX] (rev a1)
>>>
>>> You are right if I replace VGA with amd in my grep, I can see my card:
>>>
>>> $ lspci | grep -i amd
>>> 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT 
>>> [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile] (rev 83)
>>>
>>> But my question is that VGA means that it is using the Intel Graphics for 
>>> all display operations right ? If so is there any way to transfer all that 
>>> to the AMD card ?
>>>
>>> Forget about Wayland, is there any way to do that in Xorg ?
>>
>>
>> It would seem (from what i can find quickly) that wayland will indeed use 
>> the primary one by default. This can be fixed if you can just disable the 
>> intel one in the bios?
>>
>> If you want continue with Xorg, start by making sure that you have the 
>> package installed  xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu . And then have a look through the 
>> wiki link for any other information.
>>
>> If you cannot disable the intel and want to continue with Xorg, you will 
>> need to add /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files to configure X to select the right 
>> GPU.
>>
>> Let us know what you want to do. (It would seem disable in the bios would be 
>> the fasted option all round)
>
>
> On top of all that I should explain something else:
>
> GDM (assuming you are using this) uses Wayland/Mutter by default and it runs 
> on TTY1 (at the moment that uses the intel card).
>
> By default it launches your GNOME/Mutter session on another TTY (ctrl+alt+fX) 
> that will also at the moment default to intel card.
>
> If you set GNOME session to be Xorg, and configure xorg to use amdgpu, that 
> would leave mutter on TTY1 (ctrl+alt+f1) runnin on the intel card and your 
> session on the amdgpu.
>
> Which sounds kinda nice?
>
> *But you can edit the /etc/gdm.conf to run on Xorg instead and use the amgpu.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-19 Thread Samuel Sieb


On 4/19/20 6:07 AM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
It has an AMD Radeon R5 M330 Graphics (2 GB DDR3 dedicated) GPU which is 
currently not being used by Wayland Gnome in Fedora.


Why do you think it's not being used?


This is the output of:
$ lspci | grep -i VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake GT2 [HD 
Graphics 520] (rev 07)


As you can see it is operating on the in-built Intel Graphics. I want 
all display operations to happen through the AMD GPU, is that possible?


That just tells you that you have an Intel graphics chipset in the 
computer, not that it's being used.  As you found in the full "lspci" 
listing, there's also the AMD one.



I did try installing the AMDGPU-Pro Driver from here:
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-radpro-lin-16-40


That is obsolete.  There is full AMD support included in the kernel and 
mesa now.



$ sudo kmod list | grep amd
amdgpu               5308416  0


As you can see, the AMD driver *is* loaded.

Trying installing the "egl-utils" package and run "eglinfo" and see what 
it says.

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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 18:16, Anthony F McInerney  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:55, Sreyan Chakravarty 
> wrote:
>
>> > I don't know specifically about wayland as I don't use it, but on Xorg
>> > there is a log file that tells you exactly what it found and will give
>> > you more details on the card it is using.
>>
>> Do you know if there is any way I can contact the Wayland devs maybe,
>> there doesn't seem to be a whole lot support for it, yet it ships as the
>> default option in Fedora.
>>
>> > If it change my grep I find this:
>> > lspci | grep -i nvid
>> > 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce 940MX] (rev a2)
>> > 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio
>> > Controller [GeForce 940MX] (rev a1)
>>
>> You are right if I replace VGA with amd in my grep, I can see my card:
>>
>> $ lspci | grep -i amd
>> 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT
>> [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile] (rev 83)
>>
>> But my question is that VGA means that it is using the Intel Graphics for
>> all display operations right ? If so is there any way to transfer all that
>> to the AMD card ?
>>
>> Forget about Wayland, is there any way to do that in Xorg ?
>>
>
> It would seem (from what i can find quickly) that wayland will indeed use
> the primary one by default. This can be fixed if you can just disable the
> intel one in the bios?
>
> If you want continue with Xorg, start by making sure that you have the
> package installed  xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu . And then have a look through the
> wiki link for any other information.
>
> If you cannot disable the intel and want to continue with Xorg, you will
> need to add /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files to configure X to select the right
> GPU.
>
> Let us know what you want to do. (It would seem disable in the bios would
> be the fasted option all round)
>

On top of all that I should explain something else:

GDM (assuming you are using this) uses Wayland/Mutter by default and it
runs on TTY1 (at the moment that uses the intel card).

By default it launches your GNOME/Mutter session on another TTY
(ctrl+alt+fX) that will also at the moment default to intel card.

If you set GNOME session to be Xorg, and configure xorg to use amdgpu, that
would leave mutter on TTY1 (ctrl+alt+f1) runnin on the intel card and your
session on the amdgpu.

Which sounds kinda nice?

*But you can edit the /etc/gdm.conf to run on Xorg instead and use the
amgpu.
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 17:55, Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:

> > I don't know specifically about wayland as I don't use it, but on Xorg
> > there is a log file that tells you exactly what it found and will give
> > you more details on the card it is using.
>
> Do you know if there is any way I can contact the Wayland devs maybe,
> there doesn't seem to be a whole lot support for it, yet it ships as the
> default option in Fedora.
>
> > If it change my grep I find this:
> > lspci | grep -i nvid
> > 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce 940MX] (rev a2)
> > 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio
> > Controller [GeForce 940MX] (rev a1)
>
> You are right if I replace VGA with amd in my grep, I can see my card:
>
> $ lspci | grep -i amd
> 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT
> [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile] (rev 83)
>
> But my question is that VGA means that it is using the Intel Graphics for
> all display operations right ? If so is there any way to transfer all that
> to the AMD card ?
>
> Forget about Wayland, is there any way to do that in Xorg ?
>

It would seem (from what i can find quickly) that wayland will indeed use
the primary one by default. This can be fixed if you can just disable the
intel one in the bios?

If you want continue with Xorg, start by making sure that you have the
package installed  xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu . And then have a look through the
wiki link for any other information.

If you cannot disable the intel and want to continue with Xorg, you will
need to add /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files to configure X to select the right
GPU.

Let us know what you want to do. (It would seem disable in the bios would
be the fasted option all round)
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-19 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

> I don't know specifically about wayland as I don't use it, but on Xorg
> there is a log file that tells you exactly what it found and will give
> you more details on the card it is using.

Do you know if there is any way I can contact the Wayland devs maybe, there 
doesn't seem to be a whole lot support for it, yet it ships as the default 
option in Fedora. 

> If it change my grep I find this:
> lspci | grep -i nvid
> 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce 940MX] (rev a2)
> 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio
> Controller [GeForce 940MX] (rev a1)

You are right if I replace VGA with amd in my grep, I can see my card:

$ lspci | grep -i amd
01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT 
[Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile] (rev 83)
 
But my question is that VGA means that it is using the Intel Graphics for all 
display operations right ? If so is there any way to transfer all that to the 
AMD card ?

Forget about Wayland, is there any way to do that in Xorg ?
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-19 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty

> Also just add. you want to make sure you have   xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu
installed. and best reference on fredora i have found is the french wiki:
>
https://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Carte_graphique_ATI_-_AMD_Radeon_:_installation_des_pilotes_libres&prev=search

Well I am not using XOrg, I am using Wayland.
Also there is nothing in the link that you have specified. What am I
suppose to do once I open the link ?

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 7:04 PM Anthony F McInerney 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 14:28, Anthony F McInerney 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 14:08, Sreyan Chakravarty 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My laptop model is the HP-ac179tx.
>>> Full Specs here: https://support.hp.com/in-en/document/c04919819
>>>
>>> It has an AMD Radeon R5 M330 Graphics (2 GB DDR3 dedicated) GPU which is
>>> currently not being used by Wayland Gnome in Fedora.
>>>
>>> This is the output of:
>>> $ lspci | grep -i VGA
>>> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake GT2 [HD
>>> Graphics 520] (rev 07)
>>>
>>> As you can see it is operating on the in-built Intel Graphics. I want
>>> all display operations to happen through the AMD GPU, is that possible?
>>>
>>> Now, I know video card drivers has always been a dicey topic, where
>>> there is no stable drivers, just softwares that fail a little less than
>>> other counterparts.
>>>
>>> So, I have a few questions:
>>>
>>> 1) I am using Gnome-Wayland. Are there at all any video card drivers out
>>> there for Wayland ?
>>> 2) To use video drivers is it necessary to switch to XOrg ?
>>> 3) Is it possible to transfer all display operations to the GPU ? Like
>>> my desktop has the monitor connected to the GPU directly, which means all
>>> display is handled by the GPU. Is something similar possible here?
>>>
>>> I did try installing the AMDGPU-Pro Driver from here:
>>> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-radpro-lin-16-40
>>>
>>> But it fails with the error:
>>> No match for argument: amdgpu
>>> Error: Unable to find a match: amdgpu
>>>
>>> Also Fedora was even listed in page, so I guess that means that it is
>>> not supported.
>>>
>>> Some relevant diagnostic information about my laptop:
>>>
>>> $ sudo kmod list | grep amd
>>> amdgpu   5308416  0
>>> amd_iommu_v2   20480  1 amdgpu
>>> gpu_sched  36864  1 amdgpu
>>> ttm   122880  2 amdgpu,radeon
>>> i2c_algo_bit   16384  3 amdgpu,radeon,i915
>>> drm_kms_helper233472  3 amdgpu,radeon,i915
>>> drm   585728  13
>>> gpu_sched,drm_kms_helper,amdgpu,radeon,i915,ttm
>>>
>>> $ sudo rpm -qa | grep vulkan | sort
>>> mesa-vulkan-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> vulkan-loader-1.2.131.1-1.fc31.x86_64
>>>
>>> $ sudo rpm -qa | grep mesa | sort
>>> mesa-dri-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-filesystem-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-libEGL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-libgbm-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-libGL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-libglapi-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-libGLU-9.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-libOpenCL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-libxatracker-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>> mesa-vulkan-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>>
>>> Lastly, I have LVM snapshotting enabled, so I should be able to try out
>>> things so long as they don't involve my /boot and /boot/efi directories as
>>> they are not included in the LVM.
>>>
>>> Let me know what is the best course of action here.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Sreyan Chakravarty
>>>
>>> Hi Sreyan,
>>
>> First thought, check the bios see if you can disable the onboard / intel
>> card?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ant.
>>
> Also just add. you want to make sure you have   xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu
> installed. and best reference on fredora i have found is the french wiki:
>
> https://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Carte_graphique_ATI_-_AMD_Radeon_:_installation_des_pilotes_libres&prev=search
>
>
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 14:28, Anthony F McInerney  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 14:08, Sreyan Chakravarty 
> wrote:
>
>> My laptop model is the HP-ac179tx.
>> Full Specs here: https://support.hp.com/in-en/document/c04919819
>>
>> It has an AMD Radeon R5 M330 Graphics (2 GB DDR3 dedicated) GPU which is
>> currently not being used by Wayland Gnome in Fedora.
>>
>> This is the output of:
>> $ lspci | grep -i VGA
>> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake GT2 [HD
>> Graphics 520] (rev 07)
>>
>> As you can see it is operating on the in-built Intel Graphics. I want all
>> display operations to happen through the AMD GPU, is that possible?
>>
>> Now, I know video card drivers has always been a dicey topic, where there
>> is no stable drivers, just softwares that fail a little less than other
>> counterparts.
>>
>> So, I have a few questions:
>>
>> 1) I am using Gnome-Wayland. Are there at all any video card drivers out
>> there for Wayland ?
>> 2) To use video drivers is it necessary to switch to XOrg ?
>> 3) Is it possible to transfer all display operations to the GPU ? Like my
>> desktop has the monitor connected to the GPU directly, which means all
>> display is handled by the GPU. Is something similar possible here?
>>
>> I did try installing the AMDGPU-Pro Driver from here:
>> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-radpro-lin-16-40
>>
>> But it fails with the error:
>> No match for argument: amdgpu
>> Error: Unable to find a match: amdgpu
>>
>> Also Fedora was even listed in page, so I guess that means that it is not
>> supported.
>>
>> Some relevant diagnostic information about my laptop:
>>
>> $ sudo kmod list | grep amd
>> amdgpu   5308416  0
>> amd_iommu_v2   20480  1 amdgpu
>> gpu_sched  36864  1 amdgpu
>> ttm   122880  2 amdgpu,radeon
>> i2c_algo_bit   16384  3 amdgpu,radeon,i915
>> drm_kms_helper233472  3 amdgpu,radeon,i915
>> drm   585728  13
>> gpu_sched,drm_kms_helper,amdgpu,radeon,i915,ttm
>>
>> $ sudo rpm -qa | grep vulkan | sort
>> mesa-vulkan-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> vulkan-loader-1.2.131.1-1.fc31.x86_64
>>
>> $ sudo rpm -qa | grep mesa | sort
>> mesa-dri-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-filesystem-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-libEGL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-libgbm-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-libGL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-libglapi-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-libGLU-9.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-libOpenCL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-libxatracker-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>> mesa-vulkan-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>>
>> Lastly, I have LVM snapshotting enabled, so I should be able to try out
>> things so long as they don't involve my /boot and /boot/efi directories as
>> they are not included in the LVM.
>>
>> Let me know what is the best course of action here.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Sreyan Chakravarty
>>
>> Hi Sreyan,
>
> First thought, check the bios see if you can disable the onboard / intel
> card?
>
> Cheers
> Ant.
>
Also just add. you want to make sure you have   xorg-x11-drv-amdgpu
installed. and best reference on fredora i have found is the french wiki:
https://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Carte_graphique_ATI_-_AMD_Radeon_:_installation_des_pilotes_libres&prev=search
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31

2020-04-19 Thread Roger Heflin

lspci shows you what exists in the hardware whether it is being used
for not, whether you have a driver that can use it or not.

And kmod list shows you what drivers have loaded because it found
valid hardware for it, and you have amdgpu loaded so you are using it.

I don't know specifically about wayland as I don't use it, but on Xorg
there is a log file that tells you exactly what it found and will give
you more details on the card it is using.

On my laptop I see this (lspci is what kmod list calls)
lspci | grep -i VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 (rev 02)

If it change my grep I find this:
lspci | grep -i nvid
01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce 940MX] (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 High Definition Audio
Controller [GeForce 940MX] (rev a1)

And my Xorg driver is using the nvidia card, and I have the nvidia
supplied driver installed and in use.  The add-on cards typically
don't list as VGA.


On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:08 AM Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:
>
> My laptop model is the HP-ac179tx.
> Full Specs here: https://support.hp.com/in-en/document/c04919819
>
> It has an AMD Radeon R5 M330 Graphics (2 GB DDR3 dedicated) GPU which is 
> currently not being used by Wayland Gnome in Fedora.
>
> This is the output of:
> $ lspci | grep -i VGA
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 
> 520] (rev 07)
>
> As you can see it is operating on the in-built Intel Graphics. I want all 
> display operations to happen through the AMD GPU, is that possible?
>
> Now, I know video card drivers has always been a dicey topic, where there is 
> no stable drivers, just softwares that fail a little less than other 
> counterparts.
>
> So, I have a few questions:
>
> 1) I am using Gnome-Wayland. Are there at all any video card drivers out 
> there for Wayland ?
> 2) To use video drivers is it necessary to switch to XOrg ?
> 3) Is it possible to transfer all display operations to the GPU ? Like my 
> desktop has the monitor connected to the GPU directly, which means all 
> display is handled by the GPU. Is something similar possible here?
>
> I did try installing the AMDGPU-Pro Driver from here:
> https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-radpro-lin-16-40
>
> But it fails with the error:
> No match for argument: amdgpu
> Error: Unable to find a match: amdgpu
>
> Also Fedora was even listed in page, so I guess that means that it is not 
> supported.
>
> Some relevant diagnostic information about my laptop:
>
> $ sudo kmod list | grep amd
> amdgpu   5308416  0
> amd_iommu_v2   20480  1 amdgpu
> gpu_sched  36864  1 amdgpu
> ttm   122880  2 amdgpu,radeon
> i2c_algo_bit   16384  3 amdgpu,radeon,i915
> drm_kms_helper233472  3 amdgpu,radeon,i915
> drm   585728  13 
> gpu_sched,drm_kms_helper,amdgpu,radeon,i915,ttm
>
> $ sudo rpm -qa | grep vulkan | sort
> mesa-vulkan-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> vulkan-loader-1.2.131.1-1.fc31.x86_64
>
> $ sudo rpm -qa | grep mesa | sort
> mesa-dri-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-filesystem-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-libEGL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-libgbm-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-libGL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-libglapi-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-libGLU-9.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-libOpenCL-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-libxatracker-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
> mesa-vulkan-drivers-19.2.8-1.fc31.x86_64
>
> Lastly, I have LVM snapshotting enabled, so I should be able to try out 
> things so long as they don't involve my /boot and /boot/efi directories as 
> they are not included in the LVM.
>
> Let me know what is the best course of action here.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Regards,
> Sreyan Chakravarty
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Re: AMD GPU not used by Fedora 31