Re: CPU / GPU fan control
On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 01:09:49PM +0200, Rafnews wrote: > i understand it and i can say i have a nVidia GM260 on my ASUS G73SW > and fan runs fast because i watch movies using VLC. > so 1 possibility would be that the defautl nVidia driver in Fed20 is > not enough good (compared to Windows' one)... > If your Nvidia supports Optimus technology then you should install Bumblebee with or without Nvidia properietary drivers. That should cool down your laptop. I had the same issue & Bumblebee helped. Basically it stops the use of GPU when not needed but also one needs to invoke the particular app to run GPU through Bumblebee. It does not do that automatically right now. You can read all this at: http://bumblebee-project.org/ Install it as per: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bumblebee HTH -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control [OT]
On 04/06/14 21:36, Tim wrote: <> As the blunt person had said, please don't top post on this list. > If your mail client makes that next-to-impossible, consider > replying without quoting any of the prior message, instead. tim, blunt is a polite word. it has been a bad past week of mental, emotional, physical, and financial pressures that took their toll. and my biorhythm plot shows it. all culminated with lost of a very good friend who lost his 3rd round battle with cancer on april 1st. his funeral was yesterday, april 6th. in addition, my joking about my 'chemo brain' is becoming a new reality as lymphoma swelling in lymph nodes my neck seems to be increasing again. so, my apologies to group that i was "blunt" with a poster that showed little respect or concern for a simple request. his attitude is most obvious in his lack of response to rest of my post and his lack of response to your post. i can understand to my reply, but not to yours. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
Allegedly, on or about 05 April 2014, Rafnews sent: > the ASUS G73SW has 2 airflow entrance, 2 FANs, nothing around till 1 > meter and air of the room is ambiant so 20-21 degrees C max. > in the same environment Windows 7 on the same hardware perform 40% > slower but much more silent :D Sounds like it does have controllable fans, then. There's a chance that it requires the OS to control them. Though some things seem to manage it with the hardware (e.g. a computer sitting at the BIOS boot screen might start up with the fans whizzing fast, but slow down once the temperature sensors are checked). On the computers that I have with speed controlled fans, they've "just worked" for me, without having to do anything. The next question would be is the computer blasting out hot air or cool air? Hot air indicates that something is doing hard work. Cool air indicates that the fans are needlessly revving. As the blunt person had said, please don't top post on this list. If your mail client makes that next-to-impossible, consider replying without quoting any of the prior message, instead. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
On 04/05/14 17:12, Rafnews wrote: to answer to your question: the ASUS G73SW has 2 airflow entrance, 2 FANs, nothing around till 1 meter and air of the room is ambiant so 20-21 degrees C max. in the same environment Windows 7 on the same hardware perform 40% slower but much more silent :D there you go again with your top posting when asked not to. are you really that hard headed and stubborn that you can not consent to do as asked? or do you not care about post that do not answer your request to you desires? anyway, seems your laptop is not working as bragged by; http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/G73SW/ caption "always cool" and adjoining pix show 1 airflow entrance and 2 exhausts. you state your laptop has "2 airflow entrance". do you have a different model than shown at above link? stating that ambient [note correct spelling] is 20-21 °C is interesting to know. more important, what is °C exiting each of the 2 exhaust ports? that is, presuming that you have 2 exhausts as show in pix at above link. being that you reveled a key indicator, your using oos 7 and tooting about how great it is, it tells me that you have most likely not done any research on you own. oos users find it easier to just ask and not bother to search on their own. so, a quick search with ixquick.com for; "fan speed" host:fedoraproject.org gives 44 hits; https://ixquick.com/do/search?q=%22fan+speed%22+host%3Afedoraproject.org&lui=english among which, more relevant are 1st 2. next 3 you need look at also. https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/8141/what-is-the-best-way-to-run-fancontrol-all-the-time/ https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/answers/32187/revisions/ https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/31514/how-to-change-cpu-temperature-thresholds-and-control-fan-speed/ https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/25197/fan-on-my-laptop-runs-all-the-time-at-maximum-speed/ https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/9478/how-do-i-install-lm_sensors-to-check-cpu-temperature-and-fan-speeds/ in closing, excuse my satire. i woke up in a bad mood and it has not left yet. ;-) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 13:09 +0200, Rafnews wrote: > i understand it and i can say i have a nVidia GM260 on my ASUS G73SW > and > fan runs fast because i watch movies using VLC. > so 1 possibility would be that the defautl nVidia driver in Fed20 is > not > enough good (compared to Windows' one)... [Please don't top-post; see the Guidelines] Have you tried installing the proprietary NVidia driver? You need to enable the RPMfusion repo and from then on it's easy. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
to answer to your question: the ASUS G73SW has 2 airflow entrance, 2 FANs, nothing around till 1 meter and air of the room is ambiant so 20-21 degrees C max. in the same environment Windows 7 on the same hardware perform 40% slower but much more silent :D On 05.04.2014 12:22, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 07:16 +0200, Raf Roger wrote: i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading on internet. Some of those things may be causing your CPU to run hot, in themselves. If the fans don't spin down when the computer is very idle, then you may have fans without speed control, or your computer is overheating. Fans can only cool things down, so much. If the computer is in a hot environment, it's going to overheat. If the airflow is blocked, then it can't cool down very much. Air vents in the computer need to be cleaned. The dust and fluff in heatsinks needs to be removed. If the heatsinks are not in good contact with the CPU, or other hot devices, then they don't do their job. They have to be flush against the surface of the device. And they work a lot better when there's heatsink compound between the device and the heatsink. It's often a kind of paste, though sometimes it's a squishy solid (thin) object. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
i understand it and i can say i have a nVidia GM260 on my ASUS G73SW and fan runs fast because i watch movies using VLC. so 1 possibility would be that the defautl nVidia driver in Fed20 is not enough good (compared to Windows' one)... On 05.04.2014 11:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 07:16 +0200, Raf Roger wrote: i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading on internet. [When referring to a previous question, it's better to continue in the same thread so people can understand the context. That's what threading is for]. Your fans are running because the CPU is hot. The question you need to ask is not "how do I turn off the fans?" but "why is my CPU overheating?". There's a whole (long) thread about this here in the last couple of says. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
1. when i'm telling that my fan runs at 100%, it's to not tell between 90, 95 100 or 80%... let's say it is a lot faster than under windows 7 on the same hardware. so if windows 7 with ASUS software can adjust speed to make it quiet (there are 2 fans - 1 for CPU + 1 for GPU) i guess a wonderful OS like Fedora/linux can do better :D On 05.04.2014 08:18, g wrote: On 04/05/14 11:16, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading on internet. where can find some good information about it ? i read something about powersaving tool with thinkfan but i don't know why it doesn't seem to work...and powertools are terminal commands as far as i understood. so have you already solved something like that before ? does it really work ? thx. before you consider controlling cpu / gpu fans, there are 2 things you might wish to consider; 1- _if_ fan speed is variable, it is usually done so by temp sensors that monitor temps and adjust fan speed. 2- if fans are running 100%, they may not be variable. why is it you feel a need to change what is, or maybe already being done for you? /(-: do you believe you are more temp aware than circuits that are designed to monitor temp and adjust fan speed? /:-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
On 05/04/14 11:22, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 07:16 +0200, Raf Roger wrote: i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading on internet. Some of those things may be causing your CPU to run hot, in themselves. If the fans don't spin down when the computer is very idle, then you may have fans without speed control, or your computer is overheating. Fans can only cool things down, so much. If the computer is in a hot environment, it's going to overheat. If the airflow is blocked, then it can't cool down very much. Air vents in the computer need to be cleaned. The dust and fluff in heatsinks needs to be removed. If the heatsinks are not in good contact with the CPU, or other hot devices, then they don't do their job. They have to be flush against the surface of the device. And they work a lot better when there's heatsink compound between the device and the heatsink. It's often a kind of paste, though sometimes it's a squishy solid (thin) object. When this box was delivered it worked but sounded as if it was ready for takeoff. It turned out that only one memory slot (of four) was occupied. Adding a second memory module cured it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 07:16 +0200, Raf Roger wrote: > i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to > avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie > or reading on internet. Some of those things may be causing your CPU to run hot, in themselves. If the fans don't spin down when the computer is very idle, then you may have fans without speed control, or your computer is overheating. Fans can only cool things down, so much. If the computer is in a hot environment, it's going to overheat. If the airflow is blocked, then it can't cool down very much. Air vents in the computer need to be cleaned. The dust and fluff in heatsinks needs to be removed. If the heatsinks are not in good contact with the CPU, or other hot devices, then they don't do their job. They have to be flush against the surface of the device. And they work a lot better when there's heatsink compound between the device and the heatsink. It's often a kind of paste, though sometimes it's a squishy solid (thin) object. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
On Sat, 2014-04-05 at 07:16 +0200, Raf Roger wrote: > i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to > avoid it > to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading > on > internet. [When referring to a previous question, it's better to continue in the same thread so people can understand the context. That's what threading is for]. Your fans are running because the CPU is hot. The question you need to ask is not "how do I turn off the fans?" but "why is my CPU overheating?". There's a whole (long) thread about this here in the last couple of says. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: CPU / GPU fan control
On 04/05/14 11:16, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading on internet. where can find some good information about it ? i read something about powersaving tool with thinkfan but i don't know why it doesn't seem to work...and powertools are terminal commands as far as i understood. so have you already solved something like that before ? does it really work ? thx. before you consider controlling cpu / gpu fans, there are 2 things you might wish to consider; 1- _if_ fan speed is variable, it is usually done so by temp sensors that monitor temps and adjust fan speed. 2- if fans are running 100%, they may not be variable. why is it you feel a need to change what is, or maybe already being done for you? /(-: do you believe you are more temp aware than circuits that are designed to monitor temp and adjust fan speed? /:-) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
CPU / GPU fan control
Hi, i didn't get any answer regarding the FAN control of my CPU/GPU to avoid it to run at 100% all the time, when i'm just watching a movie or reading on internet. where can find some good information about it ? i read something about powersaving tool with thinkfan but i don't know why it doesn't seem to work...and powertools are terminal commands as far as i understood. so have you already solved something like that before ? does it really work ? thx. -- Alain --- Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 20 x64 MySQL 5.6.x Apache 2.4.7 / OpenSSL 1.0.1c Tomcat 7.17 PHP 5.5 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
