Re: BeOS [WAS: Re: Cannot mount usb floppy]
On 7 May 2012 16:38, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >>> >>> Wow! Another BeOS'er! I've still got my original box and CD. It's a >>> shame it went defunct. It was way ahead of it's time. >> >> I was mostly a OS/2 Warp 4.x zealot by then,but yes, I got to play with BeOS >> (4.5 if I remember correctly). >> >> This whole ordeal with the diskette image started when I read about this >> effort to revive the BeOS spirit... >> >> http://www.haiku-os.org > > I've known about it for quite some time but it looks like they're > finally getting to something usable. There was also a project to > create a BeOS like system on top of the regular linux kernel to take > advantage of the larger driver base but while practical, I never liked > that idea because BeOS was always about a micro kernel not a > monolithic kernel. > I first saw Haiku when I went through a few months of being keen on Windows desktop theming (litestep anyone?) that was a about a decade ago, rather glad I didn't try holding my breath. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: BeOS [WAS: Re: Cannot mount usb floppy]
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >> Wow! Another BeOS'er! I've still got my original box and CD. It's a >> shame it went defunct. It was way ahead of it's time. > > > Yes. :) > > I was mostly a OS/2 Warp 4.x zealot by then,but yes, I got to play with BeOS > (4.5 if I remember correctly). > > This whole ordeal with the diskette image started when I read about this > effort to revive the BeOS spirit... > > http://www.haiku-os.org I've known about it for quite some time but it looks like they're finally getting to something usable. There was also a project to create a BeOS like system on top of the regular linux kernel to take advantage of the larger driver base but while practical, I never liked that idea because BeOS was always about a micro kernel not a monolithic kernel. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: BeOS [WAS: Re: Cannot mount usb floppy]
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > Wow! Another BeOS'er! I've still got my original box and CD. It's a > shame it went defunct. It was way ahead of it's time. > Yes. :) I was mostly a OS/2 Warp 4.x zealot by then,but yes, I got to play with BeOS (4.5 if I remember correctly). This whole ordeal with the diskette image started when I read about this effort to revive the BeOS spirit... http://www.haiku-os.org FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot mount usb floppy
On 05/07/2012 09:33 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Thanks, Good pointer Ian. And thanks everyone else who also replied. In the end, I decided not to lose any more time with this (after all, all I wanted to do was backing up an ancient BeOS install diskettte to a diskette image file), and proceeded to do this on a WinXP machine then email the diskette image file to myself, which I then downloaded on the Linux box :) No worries. :-) For the record, many USB floppy drives don't support Double Density disks (720k if you like) either... as I found out a few years ago when trying to use it to bootstrap an old Amiga with limited connectivity :) -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
BeOS [WAS: Re: Cannot mount usb floppy]
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Good pointer Ian. And thanks everyone else who also replied. In the end, I > decided not to lose any more time with this (after all, all I wanted to do > was backing up an ancient BeOS install diskettte to a diskette image file), > and proceeded to do this on a WinXP machine then email the diskette image > file to myself, which I then downloaded on the Linux box :) Wow! Another BeOS'er! I've still got my original box and CD. It's a shame it went defunct. It was way ahead of it's time. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot mount usb floppy
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Ian Chapman wrote: > It may be that the drive isn't getting enough power. I've seen similar > issues with external USB hard disks where they can't get enough power and > reset a lot. Thanks, Good pointer Ian. And thanks everyone else who also replied. In the end, I decided not to lose any more time with this (after all, all I wanted to do was backing up an ancient BeOS install diskettte to a diskette image file), and proceeded to do this on a WinXP machine then email the diskette image file to myself, which I then downloaded on the Linux box :) FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot mount usb floppy
On 05/03/2012 03:41 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: The device that initially shows in lsusb is later removed. # lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0aec:3260 Neodio Technologies Corp. 7-in-1 Card Reader Thoughts? comments? the same unit works fine when connected to a winXP machine It may be that the drive isn't getting enough power. I've seen similar issues with external USB hard disks where they can't get enough power and reset a lot. Using a dual USB cable or external PSU fixes it but there's a lot of differences between machines. Other than that, I have an external Toshiba USB drive and that works fine - but obviously not the same model as yours. -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot mount usb floppy
On 05/03/2012 12:59 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Yes, pen drives. Those work. Odd. Not odd at all. It just means that your hardware is fine. Have you tried commenting out the floppy line in fstab and trying again? It's possible that there's something in it that's making trouble. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot mount usb floppy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2012 02:59 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Joe Zeff mailto:j...@zeff.us>> wrote: > > OK, the device itself is good. Â Have you connected any other usb devices to that port to make sure the port's good? Â Not that I think it isn't, but it never hurts to be sure. > > > Yes, pen drives. Those work. Odd. > > I have in /etc/fstab > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,sync,user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev 0 0 > > After all these years (my first Linux was Caldera in 1999) I find it mind-blowing that mounting devices is still the same mess as usual when every other modern OS detects and mounts devices automagically > > Oh well... > FC > > > One thing to keep in mind is that a USB floppy drive will not be /dev/fd0. It will show up as a SCSI drive. I believe that yours showed up as /dev/sdg. Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk+ia74ACgkQqbQrVW3JyMQqVQCdHD7SJ2co8XOHMVCNzno+emyV AmwAn0AUTKwzEs29yBy4mlxdVlPVkgPS =uPxP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot mount usb floppy
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > OK, the device itself is good. Have you connected any other usb devices > to that port to make sure the port's good? Not that I think it isn't, but > it never hurts to be sure. Yes, pen drives. Those work. Odd. I have in /etc/fstab /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,sync,user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev 0 0 After all these years (my first Linux was Caldera in 1999) I find it mind-blowing that mounting devices is still the same mess as usual when every other modern OS detects and mounts devices automagically Oh well... FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Cannot mount usb floppy
On 05/03/2012 12:41 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: Thoughts? comments? the same unit works fine when connected to a winXP machine OK, the device itself is good. Have you connected any other usb devices to that port to make sure the port's good? Not that I think it isn't, but it never hurts to be sure. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Cannot mount usb floppy
# lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0aec:3260 Neodio Technologies Corp. 7-in-1 Card Reader Bus 002 Device 023: ID 0424:0fdc Standard Microsystems Corp. Floppy (clicking noises) #dmesg [37282.875102] scsi 15:0:0:0: Direct-Access SMSC USB FDC 2.10 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS [37282.877379] sd 15:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 0 [37284.213025] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37284.986062] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37285.761067] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37287.297044] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37288.836053] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37290.373049] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37291.904037] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37293.437042] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37294.974053] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37296.510051] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37298.047033] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37299.582025] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37301.112045] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37302.649030] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37304.185050] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37305.720087] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37307.257047] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37308.795036] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37310.327031] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd [37311.864049] usb 2-3: reset full-speed USB device number 18 using ohci_hcd The device that initially shows in lsusb is later removed. # lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0aec:3260 Neodio Technologies Corp. 7-in-1 Card Reader Thoughts? comments? the same unit works fine when connected to a winXP machine FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
