Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-17 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Frank McCormick  wrote:
> On 15/12/14 11:41 AM, poma wrote:
>>
>>
>> You can try to temporarily resolve via udev rule,
>> although this is material for bugzilla, downstream and upstream.
>>
>>
>> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/README.linux
>> #n8
>> Permissions:
>> 
>> While SANE automatically uses libusb when the library and its header file
>> were
>> present during the build of sane-backends, setting permissions will
>> require some
>> attention. So if scanimage -L lists your scanner as root but not as normal
>> user
>> read on this text.
>> ...
>>
>>
>> Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 udev rule examples
>>
>> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/testsuite/tools/data/udev+acl.ref#n588
>>
>> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/testsuite/tools/data/udev.ref#n588
>>
>>
>> Arrivederci
>>
>>
>
>   I have basically the same scanner ---LIDE20 --- and it wasn't working
> either although sane-find-scanner found it on USB.
>
> This fixed my problem:
>
>
>  sudo yum install sane-backends-drivers-scanners.i686
>
>  I also uncommented the proper line in /etc/sane.d/canon_dr.conf
>

Hi,

@Frank_McCormick: unfortunately your solution doesn't work for me.

@poma: before touching udev I opted for bugzilla ;)

I've found an already opened bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1100151

Cheers,

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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread Frank McCormick

On 15/12/14 11:41 AM, poma wrote:


You can try to temporarily resolve via udev rule,
although this is material for bugzilla, downstream and upstream.


http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/README.linux
#n8
Permissions:

While SANE automatically uses libusb when the library and its header file were
present during the build of sane-backends, setting permissions will require some
attention. So if scanimage -L lists your scanner as root but not as normal user
read on this text.
...


Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 udev rule examples
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/testsuite/tools/data/udev+acl.ref#n588
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/testsuite/tools/data/udev.ref#n588


Arrivederci




  I have basically the same scanner ---LIDE20 --- and it wasn't working 
either although sane-find-scanner found it on USB.


This fixed my problem:


 sudo yum install sane-backends-drivers-scanners.i686

 I also uncommented the proper line in /etc/sane.d/canon_dr.conf



YMMV


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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread poma

You can try to temporarily resolve via udev rule, 
although this is material for bugzilla, downstream and upstream.


http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/README.linux
#n8
Permissions:

While SANE automatically uses libusb when the library and its header file were
present during the build of sane-backends, setting permissions will require some
attention. So if scanimage -L lists your scanner as root but not as normal user
read on this text.
...


Canon CanoScan N1240U/LiDE30 udev rule examples
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/testsuite/tools/data/udev+acl.ref#n588
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/sane/sane-backends.git/tree/testsuite/tools/data/udev.ref#n588


Arrivederci


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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread poma
On 15.12.2014 15:54, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM, poma  wrote:
>> On 15.12.2014 15:33, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM, poma  wrote:
 On 15.12.2014 14:46, Marco Guazzone wrote:

> SANE recognizes it:
>
> $ sudo sane-find-scanner
> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan])
> at libusb:003:004
>
> but cannot scan:
>
> $ scanimage -T
> scanimage: no SANE devices found
>
> $ scanimage -L
> No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
>

 'sane-find-scanner' via 'sudo'
 'scanimage -T/-L' 'sudoless'

 Check permissions.

>>>
>>> Sure. This is exaclty what I've done (check my email above)
>>>
>>> -- Marco
>>>
>>
>> :)
>> Yeah, I repeated what *you* did, and *you* still do not understand.
>> It would be good if *you* re-read both messages.
>>
> 
> So, are you saying that scanimage -T/-L must be run via sudo?

How did you come to that conclusion, again!? :)

It should work *without* 'sudo', man.
Why does not work there, try to figure out.
Bugzilla?


> I thought it could be run as a normal user.
> Anyway, I've tried with "simple scan" (which I'm pretty sure it does
> not require special permission) and don't work as well
> 

Of course, it is just another frontend for SANE, as 'scanimage' is.


>> BTW, what is the output of this command
>> $ loginctl -p Active -p State show-session $(loginctl | grep $(whoami) | awk 
>> '{print $1}')
>>
> 
> Active=yes
> State=active
> 

OK

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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:44 PM, poma  wrote:
> On 15.12.2014 15:33, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM, poma  wrote:
>>> On 15.12.2014 14:46, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>>>
 SANE recognizes it:

 $ sudo sane-find-scanner
 found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan])
 at libusb:003:004

 but cannot scan:

 $ scanimage -T
 scanimage: no SANE devices found

 $ scanimage -L
 No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
 check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
 sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
 which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).

>>>
>>> 'sane-find-scanner' via 'sudo'
>>> 'scanimage -T/-L' 'sudoless'
>>>
>>> Check permissions.
>>>
>>
>> Sure. This is exaclty what I've done (check my email above)
>>
>> -- Marco
>>
>
> :)
> Yeah, I repeated what *you* did, and *you* still do not understand.
> It would be good if *you* re-read both messages.
>

So, are you saying that scanimage -T/-L must be run via sudo?
I thought it could be run as a normal user.
Anyway, I've tried with "simple scan" (which I'm pretty sure it does
not require special permission) and don't work as well

> BTW, what is the output of this command
> $ loginctl -p Active -p State show-session $(loginctl | grep $(whoami) | awk 
> '{print $1}')
>

Active=yes
State=active

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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread poma
On 15.12.2014 15:33, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM, poma  wrote:
>> On 15.12.2014 14:46, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>>
>>> SANE recognizes it:
>>>
>>> $ sudo sane-find-scanner
>>> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan])
>>> at libusb:003:004
>>>
>>> but cannot scan:
>>>
>>> $ scanimage -T
>>> scanimage: no SANE devices found
>>>
>>> $ scanimage -L
>>> No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
>>> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
>>> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
>>> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
>>>
>>
>> 'sane-find-scanner' via 'sudo'
>> 'scanimage -T/-L' 'sudoless'
>>
>> Check permissions.
>>
> 
> Sure. This is exaclty what I've done (check my email above)
> 
> -- Marco
> 

:)
Yeah, I repeated what *you* did, and *you* still do not understand.
It would be good if *you* re-read both messages.

BTW, what is the output of this command
$ loginctl -p Active -p State show-session $(loginctl | grep $(whoami) | awk 
'{print $1}')


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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM, poma  wrote:
> On 15.12.2014 14:46, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>
>> SANE recognizes it:
>>
>> $ sudo sane-find-scanner
>> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan])
>> at libusb:003:004
>>
>> but cannot scan:
>>
>> $ scanimage -T
>> scanimage: no SANE devices found
>>
>> $ scanimage -L
>> No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
>> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
>> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
>> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
>>
>
> 'sane-find-scanner' via 'sudo'
> 'scanimage -T/-L' 'sudoless'
>
> Check permissions.
>

Sure. This is exaclty what I've done (check my email above)

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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread poma
On 15.12.2014 14:46, Marco Guazzone wrote:

> SANE recognizes it:
> 
> $ sudo sane-find-scanner
> found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan])
> at libusb:003:004
> 
> but cannot scan:
> 
> $ scanimage -T
> scanimage: no SANE devices found
> 
> $ scanimage -L
> No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
> check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
> sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
> which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).
> 

'sane-find-scanner' via 'sudo'
'scanimage -T/-L' 'sudoless'

Check permissions.


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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-15 Thread Marco Guazzone
Hello,

Bad news.
I've just installed F21 but unfortunately I'm not able to scan with my
Canon (CanonScan N1240U)

It is recognized by the system:
$dmesg
...
[17610.424208] usb 3-3: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[17610.602439] usb 3-3: New USB device found, idVendor=04a9, idProduct=220e
[17610.602450] usb 3-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=64, Product=77,
SerialNumber=0
[17610.602456] usb 3-3: Product: CanoScan
[17610.602460] usb 3-3: Manufacturer: Canon

SANE recognizes it:

$ sudo sane-find-scanner
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220e [CanoScan])
at libusb:003:004

but cannot scan:

$ scanimage -T
scanimage: no SANE devices found

$ scanimage -L
No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different,
check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by the
sane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation
which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).


On the SANE web page, it seems that this scanner is supported via the
plustek backend since version 0.52 (the version shipped with F21 is
1.0.24)

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON

Cheers,

-- Marco

On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Fred Smith
 wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 05:21:18PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:15:05PM +0100, Marco Guazzone wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've experienced similar issues with an old CanonScan.
>> > It worked until Fedora 19, but not in Fedora 20.
>> > I've tried with:
>> > simple-scan
>> > xsane
>> > gimp + sane plugin
>> > command line: scanimage -d plustek ...
>> > The last one returned an I/O error. Just to make sure it's not a
>> > scanner problem, I've asked a collegue of mine (which runs a fedora
>> > 19) to test it and it worked.
>> >
>> > I hope that Fedora 21 (that I'm going to install in the next few days)
>> > can bring it back to life.
>>
>> sounds like a regression to me!
>>
>
> Just booted up a F20 live CD (usb stick) on my netbook, installed
> the sane bits and played around a bit. with no picture in the scanner
> I got a page that was black with a lot of noise in it. I figured it wasn't
> good, because on Centos 7 on that same computerr I got a white page doing
> that, as I should.
>
> but I said what the heck and put in a piece of paper with a Dilbert
> cartoon on it, and voila, it scanned!
>
> So, as to why you can't scan with your Canoon Lide, I can't say. as
> someone else suggested, check that config file (/etc/sane.d/genesys.conf)
> to make sure it has a valid entry. On my Centos-6 box, it contains:
>
> # Canon LiDE 110
> usb 0x04a9 0x1909
>
> Oh, wait. you said you've got a LiDE 120? I see that's not listed.
> you could try adding its USB identifiers and see if that helps any.
>
> also, as I recall form some time back it wasn't hard to hack the
> sane source code to add a new identifier (as long as the support for
> it was otherwise in the program already).
>
> Good luck!
>
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > -- Marco
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Rick Stevens  
>> > wrote:
>> > > On 12/12/2014 12:45 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:56:05PM +, Joe Feely wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane
>> > >>> detect
>> > >>> it, though lsusb sees that it's connected.
>> > >>> I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
>> > >>> Is there a way to get it to work?
>> > >>> I'm using fc20 + MATE.
>> > >>> Thanks,
>> > >>> Joe
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Joe:
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm using a Canon Lide 210 here. I found it worked without hassle,
>> > >> "out of the box," with Fedora 19 (on my netbook). That's using SANE
>> > >> OR Simplescan. They both work.
>> > >>
>> > >> I had the thought in my head that both the LIDE 1xx series and the
>> > >> Lide 2xx series were all software compatible, but I could be wrong.
>> > >>
>> > >> Oh, also, one thing I discovered the hard way is that cable length
>> > >> on this scanner MATTERS. I wanted to put it on a bookshelf near my
>> > >> computer, but to do that I need a (much) longer USB cable. To my
>> > >> surprise it doesn't work AT ALL with 15-20 feet of cable. not merely
>> > >> wrong, but just plain busted. so, when I want to use it, I open my
>> > >> desk drawer, perch the scanner on the open drawer, and connect it
>> > >> with a combination of the provided cable and an extension of 4-5
>> > >> feet, with which it does work. The moral of the story being: if you've
>> > >> tried it only on a long cable, try a short one and see if it works
>> > >> any better.
>> > >>
>> > >> You may also want to ensure that F20 hasn't suffered a regression in
>> > >> their scanner support: on F20 I've got the following SANE packages
>> > >> installed:
>> > >> sane-frontends-1.0.14-16.fc19.i686
>> > >> sane-backends-libs-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
>> > >> xsane-common-0.999-12.fc19.i686
>> > >> xsane-gimp-0.999-12.fc19.i686
>> > >> libs

Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 05:21:18PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:15:05PM +0100, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've experienced similar issues with an old CanonScan.
> > It worked until Fedora 19, but not in Fedora 20.
> > I've tried with:
> > simple-scan
> > xsane
> > gimp + sane plugin
> > command line: scanimage -d plustek ...
> > The last one returned an I/O error. Just to make sure it's not a
> > scanner problem, I've asked a collegue of mine (which runs a fedora
> > 19) to test it and it worked.
> > 
> > I hope that Fedora 21 (that I'm going to install in the next few days)
> > can bring it back to life.
> 
> sounds like a regression to me!
> 

Just booted up a F20 live CD (usb stick) on my netbook, installed
the sane bits and played around a bit. with no picture in the scanner
I got a page that was black with a lot of noise in it. I figured it wasn't
good, because on Centos 7 on that same computerr I got a white page doing
that, as I should.

but I said what the heck and put in a piece of paper with a Dilbert
cartoon on it, and voila, it scanned!

So, as to why you can't scan with your Canoon Lide, I can't say. as
someone else suggested, check that config file (/etc/sane.d/genesys.conf)
to make sure it has a valid entry. On my Centos-6 box, it contains:

# Canon LiDE 110
usb 0x04a9 0x1909

Oh, wait. you said you've got a LiDE 120? I see that's not listed.
you could try adding its USB identifiers and see if that helps any.

also, as I recall form some time back it wasn't hard to hack the
sane source code to add a new identifier (as long as the support for
it was otherwise in the program already).

Good luck!

> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > -- Marco
> > 
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> > > On 12/12/2014 12:45 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:56:05PM +, Joe Feely wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane
> > >>> detect
> > >>> it, though lsusb sees that it's connected.
> > >>> I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
> > >>> Is there a way to get it to work?
> > >>> I'm using fc20 + MATE.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Joe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Joe:
> > >>
> > >> I'm using a Canon Lide 210 here. I found it worked without hassle,
> > >> "out of the box," with Fedora 19 (on my netbook). That's using SANE
> > >> OR Simplescan. They both work.
> > >>
> > >> I had the thought in my head that both the LIDE 1xx series and the
> > >> Lide 2xx series were all software compatible, but I could be wrong.
> > >>
> > >> Oh, also, one thing I discovered the hard way is that cable length
> > >> on this scanner MATTERS. I wanted to put it on a bookshelf near my
> > >> computer, but to do that I need a (much) longer USB cable. To my
> > >> surprise it doesn't work AT ALL with 15-20 feet of cable. not merely
> > >> wrong, but just plain busted. so, when I want to use it, I open my
> > >> desk drawer, perch the scanner on the open drawer, and connect it
> > >> with a combination of the provided cable and an extension of 4-5
> > >> feet, with which it does work. The moral of the story being: if you've
> > >> tried it only on a long cable, try a short one and see if it works
> > >> any better.
> > >>
> > >> You may also want to ensure that F20 hasn't suffered a regression in
> > >> their scanner support: on F20 I've got the following SANE packages
> > >> installed:
> > >> sane-frontends-1.0.14-16.fc19.i686
> > >> sane-backends-libs-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
> > >> xsane-common-0.999-12.fc19.i686
> > >> xsane-gimp-0.999-12.fc19.i686
> > >> libsane-hpaio-3.13.11-4.fc19.i686
> > >> sane-backends-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
> > >> sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
> > >>
> > >> My (admittedly flaky) memory tells me that you need at least backends
> > >> version 1.0.22 to get the lide drivers.
> > >>
> > >> Simple-scan is:
> > >>
> > >> simple-scan-3.8.0-1.fc19.i686
> > >
> > >
> > > My guess is that genesys driver would work since it's used for most of
> > > the LIDE scanners. It may just not recognize the USB ID of your
> > > scanner.
> > >
> > > You could try including the USB ID of your scanner (from "lsusb") in
> > > the /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf file and trying to search for the scanner
> > > again. If it finds it, you could try a scan. Be careful, though. The
> > > developer warns:
> > >
> > > "This is stable software for supported models. But if you  test  new  or
> > > untested  scanners, keep your hand at the scanner's plug and unplug it,
> > > if the head bumps at the end of the scan area."
> > > --
> > > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com -
> > > - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 -
> > > --
> > > -   NEWS FLASH! Intelligence of mankind decreasing!

Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread poma
On 12.12.2014 20:56, Joe Feely wrote:
> Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane detect it,
> though lsusb sees that it's connected.
> I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
> Is there a way to get it to work?
> I'm using fc20 + MATE.
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe
> 
> 
> 

SANE - Supported Devices
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html

Current Stable SANE Version
 Ordered by Manufacturer 
 http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON

SANE Development (git) Version
 Ordered by Manufacturer 
 http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs-cvs.html#Z-CANON


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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:15:05PM +0100, Marco Guazzone wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've experienced similar issues with an old CanonScan.
> It worked until Fedora 19, but not in Fedora 20.
> I've tried with:
> simple-scan
> xsane
> gimp + sane plugin
> command line: scanimage -d plustek ...
> The last one returned an I/O error. Just to make sure it's not a
> scanner problem, I've asked a collegue of mine (which runs a fedora
> 19) to test it and it worked.
> 
> I hope that Fedora 21 (that I'm going to install in the next few days)
> can bring it back to life.

sounds like a regression to me!

> 
> Best,
> 
> -- Marco
> 
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> > On 12/12/2014 12:45 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:56:05PM +, Joe Feely wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane
> >>> detect
> >>> it, though lsusb sees that it's connected.
> >>> I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
> >>> Is there a way to get it to work?
> >>> I'm using fc20 + MATE.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe:
> >>
> >> I'm using a Canon Lide 210 here. I found it worked without hassle,
> >> "out of the box," with Fedora 19 (on my netbook). That's using SANE
> >> OR Simplescan. They both work.
> >>
> >> I had the thought in my head that both the LIDE 1xx series and the
> >> Lide 2xx series were all software compatible, but I could be wrong.
> >>
> >> Oh, also, one thing I discovered the hard way is that cable length
> >> on this scanner MATTERS. I wanted to put it on a bookshelf near my
> >> computer, but to do that I need a (much) longer USB cable. To my
> >> surprise it doesn't work AT ALL with 15-20 feet of cable. not merely
> >> wrong, but just plain busted. so, when I want to use it, I open my
> >> desk drawer, perch the scanner on the open drawer, and connect it
> >> with a combination of the provided cable and an extension of 4-5
> >> feet, with which it does work. The moral of the story being: if you've
> >> tried it only on a long cable, try a short one and see if it works
> >> any better.
> >>
> >> You may also want to ensure that F20 hasn't suffered a regression in
> >> their scanner support: on F20 I've got the following SANE packages
> >> installed:
> >> sane-frontends-1.0.14-16.fc19.i686
> >> sane-backends-libs-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
> >> xsane-common-0.999-12.fc19.i686
> >> xsane-gimp-0.999-12.fc19.i686
> >> libsane-hpaio-3.13.11-4.fc19.i686
> >> sane-backends-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
> >> sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
> >>
> >> My (admittedly flaky) memory tells me that you need at least backends
> >> version 1.0.22 to get the lide drivers.
> >>
> >> Simple-scan is:
> >>
> >> simple-scan-3.8.0-1.fc19.i686
> >
> >
> > My guess is that genesys driver would work since it's used for most of
> > the LIDE scanners. It may just not recognize the USB ID of your
> > scanner.
> >
> > You could try including the USB ID of your scanner (from "lsusb") in
> > the /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf file and trying to search for the scanner
> > again. If it finds it, you could try a scan. Be careful, though. The
> > developer warns:
> >
> > "This is stable software for supported models. But if you  test  new  or
> > untested  scanners, keep your hand at the scanner's plug and unplug it,
> > if the head bumps at the end of the scan area."
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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread Marco Guazzone
Hi,

I've experienced similar issues with an old CanonScan.
It worked until Fedora 19, but not in Fedora 20.
I've tried with:
simple-scan
xsane
gimp + sane plugin
command line: scanimage -d plustek ...
The last one returned an I/O error. Just to make sure it's not a
scanner problem, I've asked a collegue of mine (which runs a fedora
19) to test it and it worked.

I hope that Fedora 21 (that I'm going to install in the next few days)
can bring it back to life.

Best,

-- Marco

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 12/12/2014 12:45 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:56:05PM +, Joe Feely wrote:
>>>
>>> Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane
>>> detect
>>> it, though lsusb sees that it's connected.
>>> I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
>>> Is there a way to get it to work?
>>> I'm using fc20 + MATE.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joe
>>
>>
>> Joe:
>>
>> I'm using a Canon Lide 210 here. I found it worked without hassle,
>> "out of the box," with Fedora 19 (on my netbook). That's using SANE
>> OR Simplescan. They both work.
>>
>> I had the thought in my head that both the LIDE 1xx series and the
>> Lide 2xx series were all software compatible, but I could be wrong.
>>
>> Oh, also, one thing I discovered the hard way is that cable length
>> on this scanner MATTERS. I wanted to put it on a bookshelf near my
>> computer, but to do that I need a (much) longer USB cable. To my
>> surprise it doesn't work AT ALL with 15-20 feet of cable. not merely
>> wrong, but just plain busted. so, when I want to use it, I open my
>> desk drawer, perch the scanner on the open drawer, and connect it
>> with a combination of the provided cable and an extension of 4-5
>> feet, with which it does work. The moral of the story being: if you've
>> tried it only on a long cable, try a short one and see if it works
>> any better.
>>
>> You may also want to ensure that F20 hasn't suffered a regression in
>> their scanner support: on F20 I've got the following SANE packages
>> installed:
>> sane-frontends-1.0.14-16.fc19.i686
>> sane-backends-libs-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
>> xsane-common-0.999-12.fc19.i686
>> xsane-gimp-0.999-12.fc19.i686
>> libsane-hpaio-3.13.11-4.fc19.i686
>> sane-backends-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
>> sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
>>
>> My (admittedly flaky) memory tells me that you need at least backends
>> version 1.0.22 to get the lide drivers.
>>
>> Simple-scan is:
>>
>> simple-scan-3.8.0-1.fc19.i686
>
>
> My guess is that genesys driver would work since it's used for most of
> the LIDE scanners. It may just not recognize the USB ID of your
> scanner.
>
> You could try including the USB ID of your scanner (from "lsusb") in
> the /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf file and trying to search for the scanner
> again. If it finds it, you could try a scan. Be careful, though. The
> developer warns:
>
> "This is stable software for supported models. But if you  test  new  or
> untested  scanners, keep your hand at the scanner's plug and unplug it,
> if the head bumps at the end of the scan area."
> --
> - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com -
> - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 -
> --
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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread Rick Stevens

On 12/12/2014 12:45 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:56:05PM +, Joe Feely wrote:

Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane detect
it, though lsusb sees that it's connected.
I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
Is there a way to get it to work?
I'm using fc20 + MATE.
Thanks,
Joe


Joe:

I'm using a Canon Lide 210 here. I found it worked without hassle,
"out of the box," with Fedora 19 (on my netbook). That's using SANE
OR Simplescan. They both work.

I had the thought in my head that both the LIDE 1xx series and the
Lide 2xx series were all software compatible, but I could be wrong.

Oh, also, one thing I discovered the hard way is that cable length
on this scanner MATTERS. I wanted to put it on a bookshelf near my
computer, but to do that I need a (much) longer USB cable. To my
surprise it doesn't work AT ALL with 15-20 feet of cable. not merely
wrong, but just plain busted. so, when I want to use it, I open my
desk drawer, perch the scanner on the open drawer, and connect it
with a combination of the provided cable and an extension of 4-5
feet, with which it does work. The moral of the story being: if you've
tried it only on a long cable, try a short one and see if it works
any better.

You may also want to ensure that F20 hasn't suffered a regression in
their scanner support: on F20 I've got the following SANE packages
installed:
sane-frontends-1.0.14-16.fc19.i686
sane-backends-libs-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
xsane-common-0.999-12.fc19.i686
xsane-gimp-0.999-12.fc19.i686
libsane-hpaio-3.13.11-4.fc19.i686
sane-backends-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686

My (admittedly flaky) memory tells me that you need at least backends
version 1.0.22 to get the lide drivers.

Simple-scan is:

simple-scan-3.8.0-1.fc19.i686


My guess is that genesys driver would work since it's used for most of
the LIDE scanners. It may just not recognize the USB ID of your
scanner.

You could try including the USB ID of your scanner (from "lsusb") in
the /etc/sane.d/genesys.conf file and trying to search for the scanner
again. If it finds it, you could try a scan. Be careful, though. The
developer warns:

"This is stable software for supported models. But if you  test  new  or
untested  scanners, keep your hand at the scanner's plug and unplug it,
if the head bumps at the end of the scan area."
--
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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 07:56:05PM +, Joe Feely wrote:
>Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane detect
>it, though lsusb sees that it's connected.
>I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
>Is there a way to get it to work?
>I'm using fc20 + MATE.
>Thanks,
>Joe

Joe:

I'm using a Canon Lide 210 here. I found it worked without hassle,
"out of the box," with Fedora 19 (on my netbook). That's using SANE
OR Simplescan. They both work.

I had the thought in my head that both the LIDE 1xx series and the
Lide 2xx series were all software compatible, but I could be wrong.

Oh, also, one thing I discovered the hard way is that cable length
on this scanner MATTERS. I wanted to put it on a bookshelf near my
computer, but to do that I need a (much) longer USB cable. To my
surprise it doesn't work AT ALL with 15-20 feet of cable. not merely
wrong, but just plain busted. so, when I want to use it, I open my
desk drawer, perch the scanner on the open drawer, and connect it
with a combination of the provided cable and an extension of 4-5
feet, with which it does work. The moral of the story being: if you've
tried it only on a long cable, try a short one and see if it works
any better.

You may also want to ensure that F20 hasn't suffered a regression in
their scanner support: on F20 I've got the following SANE packages
installed:
sane-frontends-1.0.14-16.fc19.i686
sane-backends-libs-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
xsane-common-0.999-12.fc19.i686
xsane-gimp-0.999-12.fc19.i686
libsane-hpaio-3.13.11-4.fc19.i686
sane-backends-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686
sane-backends-drivers-scanners-1.0.24-7.fc19.i686

My (admittedly flaky) memory tells me that you need at least backends
version 1.0.22 to get the lide drivers. 

Simple-scan is:

simple-scan-3.8.0-1.fc19.i686

Good luck!

Fred
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Re: Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread Zoltan Hoppar
Hi Joe Feely,

There is only one single professional app is available for linux for
any kind of scanning work. It's called Vuescan. If you buy that, you
gonna never regret it. I know that is not foss software but it's a
solution for such Lide and other type "unusable" scanners.

Zoltan

2014-12-12 20:56 GMT+01:00 Joe Feely :
> Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane detect it,
> though lsusb sees that it's connected.
> I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
> Is there a way to get it to work?
> I'm using fc20 + MATE.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
>
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Canon LIDE 120 scanner - should I expect this never to work?

2014-12-12 Thread Joe Feely
Just got a Canon LIDE 120 scanner. Neither Simple scan nor xsane detect it,
though lsusb sees that it's connected.
I bit of Googling makes me wonder if I need to exchange it.
Is there a way to get it to work?
I'm using fc20 + MATE.

Thanks,
Joe
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