Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 10:03 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Good issues - so how do you propose fedora devs et al can engage to > help advance chrome in linux - it is in googles interest and ours. > The list of issues in that tracker comes from Spot's work with Google. If anyone is interested to help, talk to the Chromium developers and file patches. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 12:26 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: a remix before it is ready > wouldn't help at all in advancing anything. Quite the opposite. If > anyone is interested in fixing the issues, take a look at > > http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 > > Rahul > Good issues - so how do you propose fedora devs et al can engage to help advance chrome in linux - it is in googles interest and ours. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 09:52 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > I dont understand your point. I am encouraging us and to advance chrome > and/or chromium - either or both of working with google to allow fedora > to distribute it - or/and advancing spots repo so it can be in regular > f14 or sooner. > > If that is your point great. > If the goal is to get Chromium into the official Fedora repo, it would require Google and interested contributors to work together to resolve the issues. Merely adding it as default in a remix before it is ready wouldn't help at all in advancing anything. Quite the opposite. If anyone is interested in fixing the issues, take a look at http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28287 Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 12:08 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/03/2010 09:35 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >> However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a >> while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than >> google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I >> recall). >> > > You are just making my point for me. Chrome and Chromium aren't the > same thing. If enough users using spot's repo provide feedback then > picking it up over Firefox might make sense. Not otherwise. > > Rahul > I dont understand your point. I am encouraging us and to advance chrome and/or chromium - either or both of working with google to allow fedora to distribute it - or/and advancing spots repo so it can be in regular f14 or sooner. If that is your point great. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/03/2010 09:35 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a > while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than > google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I > recall). > You are just making my point for me. Chrome and Chromium aren't the same thing. If enough users using spot's repo provide feedback then picking it up over Firefox might make sense. Not otherwise. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/02/2010 11:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: >> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more >> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable >> browser. >> > > I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox has more users but more > importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using > Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even > smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the > number that actually counts. > > Rahul Whilst above is true - the vast majority of linux users may very well be or will be using chrome even if they are not the majority of chrome users. Obviously because Linux is not the majority of desktop os' users either - tho it is becoming the dominant server os (see top 500 list for example how it is dominated by linux). So of course we are not the dominant browser users either .. so what. Chrome is the up and comer and will overtake firefox in due time imho. It is way, way, way better than firefox in a large number of important ways. It is young still but in a short time has gained enormous momentum. And it is not just windows users switching. However, that is google-chrome - I have not tried spots repo for a while but when I first tried it it was far less functional than google-chrome - cannot tell you why (java flash problems primarily if I recall). At present chrome is eating mostly IE users and safari users ... and linux firefox users. I actually no longer know anyone using firefox on linux (not saying there are none) but everyone I know using linux - regardless of distro is using google-chrome and holding firefox just-in-case something has stupidly checked for IE/FF. Everyone I know used to use firefox on linux - and that has changed .. ok not 70 MM but quite a large number! We should be advancing chrome (or chromium) - it is in our best interest - to work on either chromium or with google to include google-chrome in fedora. Google has switched their desktops to linux or mac (users choice) - now theres a few more chrome users on linux .. ;-) gene -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On 06/01/2010 01:54 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more > than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable > browser. > I think that assertion is wrong. Firefox has more users but more importantly, the large majority of Chrome users are unlikely to be using Linux and a even smaller percentage would be using Chromium and a even smaller percentage would be using Spot's repo in Fedora and that's the number that actually counts. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:07, mike cloaked wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Valent Turkovic > > wrote: > >> In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are > >> looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having > >> duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. > >> > >> How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? > >> > >> Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The > >> biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos > >> (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his > >> releases were rock solid so far. > > Can someone confirm that Chromium now runs flash and java correctly? > One reason I switched to Chrome from Chromium some time back is > because of these issues. > Flash runs as fine as on Firefox here on F13 x86_64. I just can't make it run JNLP files properly, though, it opens them with gedit instead of javaws (probably something related to MIME-type handling). Anyone experiencing this? Test URL: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorialJWS/ui/PasswordStore.jnlp Regards, Andre -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
Valent Turkovic wrote: > In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are > looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having > duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. > > How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? > > Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The > biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos > (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his > releases were rock solid so far. > > Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more > than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable > browser. I have been using latest versions of Chromium for past few > months, and I have great experience with it. I use both Firefox and > Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. > > Please post your comments here or in our mailing list and cast your > vote here: http://polldaddy.com/poll/3283626/ > The vote that counts is how many sites browser sniff and reject anything but IE or Firefox? As a Seamonkey user I can tell you "too damn many!" And for some things webkit and Gecko are not /quite/ the same. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tuesday, June 01, 2010 11:00:31 you wrote:
[snip]
> var eventCatcher = {
> run: function(){
>dojo.body().onclick = function(e){
> e = e || window.event;// event: W3C or MSIE
> var t = e.target || e.srcElement; // target: W3C or MSIE
>
> switch (t){ // t received the delegation
>default:
> break;
> }
>}
> }
> 1 } window.onload = eventCatcher.run;
> 2 }; window.onload = eventCatcher.run;
> 3 } window.onload = eventCatcher.run();
> 4 }; window.onload = eventCatcher.run();
>
> Look at the 4 variations of that last line.
>
> Firefox: 1-4 work;
> Chrome: 2 and 4 work;
> Galeon: 3 and 4 work;
> Only version 4 works on all 3 browsers.
>
> Whose bug is that?
Yours. :-)
The assignment statement must be terminated with a semicolon.
The call of a function must be explicit with the `()'.
But I get the point. Firebug is indispensable.
By the way, have you looked at Jquery?
$(document).ready(function () {
$(dojo.body).click(function(e) {
var t = e.target;
...
});
});
just works -- all browsers.
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Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 18:48 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > supercalifragilisticexpialidocius (again Dr. Evil) > > [OT] AFAIK, this is originally due to Mary Poppins, not Dr. Evil. ;-) > > :-) > Marko [OOT] Is "(again Dr. Evil) ->" not "<- (again Dr. Evil)". It was the fingerquote for `operating system'. MiniME stop banging the `giant laser' :)) -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = conning the most intellegent people on the planet is not easy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> supercalifragilisticexpialidocius (again Dr. Evil) > > [OT] AFAIK, this is originally due to Mary Poppins, not Dr. Evil. ;-) And the difference is -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu "Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be." -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Chromium by default?
> >> I use both Firefox and >> Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. > I use both sometimes @ the same time. If someone wants to "log in and check [insert account here]" on my system I open them another browser, usually Chrome, so I don't have to log out of mine. I want both. But in regard to being the "default" browser in the distribution's installed package set...Firefox hands down. Chrome is fast(yay?), but Firefox has the mature reputation, userbase, tools, etc. Many people also may have automated processes that rely on firefox (such as printing HTML reports for management from the CLI using a FF extension)...we don't want something to break just because someone liked Chrome over Firefox. I figure if you want something else, install it. If you want thousands of new desktop systems to have it by default, use kickstart. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
> supercalifragilisticexpialidocius (again Dr. Evil) [OT] AFAIK, this is originally due to Mary Poppins, not Dr. Evil. ;-) :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
> > Whose bug is that? Who can say definitively? IMHO Firefox is still > superior and for debugging purposes, irreplaceable. > I agree, in addition Firefox is more powerful for web application penetration testing and HTTP protocol analysis ( through extensions) and it is more memory friendly comparing to Chromium. -- Athmane Madjoudj -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 16:34 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Valent Turkovic wrote: > > > >> I use both Firefox and > >> Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. > > > > You seem to be making two assertions: > > I'm making much more that two but these aren't those ;) > > > 1. Most people don't want to be given a choice of browser. > > > I fail to see how we are not giving people choice? In exactly the same way that a `giant IT company' (now you must see Dr. Evil fingerquoting `giant laser') did when hardcoding IE into it's supercalifragilisticexpialidocius (again Dr. Evil) `operating system'. Just because Google use the force, err the open source, doesn't make it Luke Skywalker. As a matter of fact, IMHO Google slowly become a replacement for the `giant laser'. > > > 2. Most people prefer Chromium. > Most of geeks that I talk to do, that is for sure? Have you talked to > somebody who has used any one browser for last few years and > discovered Chrome/ium in last few months? I have and they are all in > high praise of Chrome/ium when comparing it to other browsers they > have used. As well as they praise Google Docs over Office, Google Calendar over Exchange, a.s.o. In fact, figures shows that Firefox kept it's market share for the last 6 months, while IE lost 1 percent each month for Chrome. So to speak, Chrome users seems to be former MS users that just realized they could brake out their M$ jail. And yes, this made them geeks. Sort of. :) And oh, IE is still used by much more than 70 millions users. That doesn't make it a rock solid browser. > > > I would guess that both of these assertions are false. > > In any case you haven't given any reason for either. > > And you hold the key of ultimate truth? ;) No, but you seems to hold this key, as you already proposed to remove any other browser, but Chromium. > > None of us is right, and we can't know what is truth or false without > some strong discussion. > > -- > pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt > blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com > linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com -- Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = Thus spake the master programmer: "Time for you to leave." -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
Valent Turkovic wrote:
> In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are
> looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having
> duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients.
>
> How about switching to Chromium only in our next release?
>
> Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The
> biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos
> (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his
> releases were rock solid so far.
>
> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more
> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable
> browser. I have been using latest versions of Chromium for past few
> months, and I have great experience with it. I use both Firefox and
> Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one.
>
> Please post your comments here or in our mailing list and cast your
> vote here: http://polldaddy.com/poll/3283626/
>
> [1] http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/lucky-13/
> [2] http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/fedora-remix-name-brainstorm/
> [3]
> http://ostatic.com/blog/making-projects-easier-to-package-why-chromium-isnt-in-fedora
> [4]
> http://www.tech24hours.com/2010/05/number-of-google-chrome-users-may-2010.html
>
I'm in favor of keeping as many as possible available with Firefox
default. It's easy to change the default by visiting:
System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Preferred Applications
For one thing, Firebug doesn't work as well on Chrome as it does on
Firefox and isn't available for Galeon. There are other issues as well.
Here is a javascript snippet that took a day to get working because it
behaves differently on those three browsers (I found Konqueror to be so
buggy that I quit testing against it.)
var eventCatcher = {
run: function(){
dojo.body().onclick = function(e){
e = e || window.event;// event: W3C or MSIE
var t = e.target || e.srcElement; // target: W3C or MSIE
switch (t){ // t received the delegation
default:
break;
}
}
}
1 } window.onload = eventCatcher.run;
2 }; window.onload = eventCatcher.run;
3 } window.onload = eventCatcher.run();
4 }; window.onload = eventCatcher.run();
Look at the 4 variations of that last line.
Firefox: 1-4 work;
Chrome: 2 and 4 work;
Galeon: 3 and 4 work;
Only version 4 works on all 3 browsers.
Whose bug is that? Who can say definitively? IMHO Firefox is still
superior and for debugging purposes, irreplaceable.
As to the argument about "most users" I'm reminded that at one time IE
was on almost every desktop but that didn't stop users from moving to
Mozilla.
My .02,
Mike Wright
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Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Valent Turkovic wrote: > >> I use both Firefox and >> Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. > > You seem to be making two assertions: I'm making much more that two but these aren't those ;) > 1. Most people don't want to be given a choice of browser. > I fail to see how we are not giving people choice? > 2. Most people prefer Chromium. Most of geeks that I talk to do, that is for sure? Have you talked to somebody who has used any one browser for last few years and discovered Chrome/ium in last few months? I have and they are all in high praise of Chrome/ium when comparing it to other browsers they have used. > I would guess that both of these assertions are false. > In any case you haven't given any reason for either. And you hold the key of ultimate truth? ;) None of us is right, and we can't know what is truth or false without some strong discussion. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
Valent Turkovic wrote: > I use both Firefox and > Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. You seem to be making two assertions: 1. Most people don't want to be given a choice of browser. 2. Most people prefer Chromium. I would guess that both of these assertions are false. In any case you haven't given any reason for either. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 14:07 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Valent Turkovic > > wrote: > >> In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are > >> looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having > >> duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. > >> > >> How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? > >> > >> Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The > >> biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos > >> (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his > >> releases were rock solid so far. > > Can someone confirm that Chromium now runs flash and java correctly? > One reason I switched to Chrome from Chromium some time back is > because of these issues. On my 64-bit F13 system Chromium now runs Java, which it didn't used to. That means I can play the NY Times Acrostic :-) Flash still uses the Adobe plugin, so it crashes all the time same as in Firefox. I don't know if the Linux version of Chrome now includes Flash. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Valent Turkovic > wrote: >> In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are >> looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having >> duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. >> >> How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? >> >> Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The >> biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos >> (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his >> releases were rock solid so far. Can someone confirm that Chromium now runs flash and java correctly? One reason I switched to Chrome from Chromium some time back is because of these issues. Thanks -- mike c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
Richard Shaw wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Valent Turkovic > wrote: >> In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are >> looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having >> duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. >> >> How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? >> >> Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The >> biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos >> (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his >> releases were rock solid so far. >> >> Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more >> than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable >> browser. I have been using latest versions of Chromium for past few >> months, and I have great experience with it. I use both Firefox and >> Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. >> >> Please post your comments here or in our mailing list and cast your >> vote here: http://polldaddy.com/poll/3283626/ >> >> [1] http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/lucky-13/ >> [2] >> [http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/fedora-remix-name-brainstorm/ >> [3] >> [http://ostatic.com/blog/making-projects-easier-to-package-why-chromium- isnt-in-fedora >> [4] >> [http://www.tech24hours.com/2010/05/number-of-google-chrome-users- may-2010.html > > I pretty much use Chrome (from the google64 yum repo) on my desktops > exclusively. I like the minimal interface and fast loading (even on my > old EEEPC 701). There are only three reasons I switch back to firefox > occasionally. > > 1. There are some very rare instances where chrome fails to load a > page (or load it properly). > 2. The rare occasion I need to use a plugin (addin) that is only > available on firefox. > 3. Chrome seems to have trouble printing frequently. Some image > objects don't render correctly and the page is often "shrunk". This > may not be a systemic problem but just one I have observed. > > Richard Also, I find sometimes chrome sucks up all my memory and starts a swapping storm. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chromium by default?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are > looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having > duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. > > How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? > > Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The > biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos > (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his > releases were rock solid so far. > > Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more > than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable > browser. I have been using latest versions of Chromium for past few > months, and I have great experience with it. I use both Firefox and > Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. > > Please post your comments here or in our mailing list and cast your > vote here: http://polldaddy.com/poll/3283626/ > > [1] http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/lucky-13/ > [2] http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/fedora-remix-name-brainstorm/ > [3] > http://ostatic.com/blog/making-projects-easier-to-package-why-chromium-isnt-in-fedora > [4] > http://www.tech24hours.com/2010/05/number-of-google-chrome-users-may-2010.html I pretty much use Chrome (from the google64 yum repo) on my desktops exclusively. I like the minimal interface and fast loading (even on my old EEEPC 701). There are only three reasons I switch back to firefox occasionally. 1. There are some very rare instances where chrome fails to load a page (or load it properly). 2. The rare occasion I need to use a plugin (addin) that is only available on firefox. 3. Chrome seems to have trouble printing frequently. Some image objects don't render correctly and the page is often "shrunk". This may not be a systemic problem but just one I have observed. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Chromium by default?
In the latest release [1] of Community Fedora Remix (yes, we are looking for a new name [2]) some flack we got was due to having duplicate apps; two browsers and two email clients. How about switching to Chromium only in our next release? Are there some pitfalls that would prevents us from doing so? The biggest issue currently is that Chromium is still not in Fedora repos (read why [3]) but Tom releases great quality packages and all his releases were rock solid so far. Chrome/Chromium browser has more than 70 million users[3], much more than Fedora itself, for me that proves it is a good and stable browser. I have been using latest versions of Chromium for past few months, and I have great experience with it. I use both Firefox and Chromium, but it looks like most people would like to have just one. Please post your comments here or in our mailing list and cast your vote here: http://polldaddy.com/poll/3283626/ [1] http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/lucky-13/ [2] http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/fedora-remix-name-brainstorm/ [3] http://ostatic.com/blog/making-projects-easier-to-package-why-chromium-isnt-in-fedora [4] http://www.tech24hours.com/2010/05/number-of-google-chrome-users-may-2010.html -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
