Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All,

I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19:

smpboot: CPU2: Not responding.

The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it
without having to power off the computer?

Thanks in advance,

Paul
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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Paul Smith  wrote:
> I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19:
>
> smpboot: CPU2: Not responding.
>
> The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it
> without having to power off the computer?

I believe that the cause of this problem was the fact that I had an
external disk connected to the computer. I have meanwhile unplugged
it, but the booting process is totally blocked and I do not know how
to resume it.

Paul
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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>> I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19:
>>
>> smpboot: CPU2: Not responding.
>>
>> The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it
>> without having to power off the computer?
>
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>
> nosmp   [SMP] Tells an SMP kernel to act as a UP kernel,
> and disable the IO APIC.  legacy for "maxcpus=0"
>
>
> however, if one CPU or core doe snot respond
> all the time assume your hardware is dying

Thanks, Reindl. The issue was caused by the fact that I rebooted the
computer without having disconnected the external disk before. Since a
hard power off, the computer has worked just fine. But I was keen to
avoid the hard power off, as someone told me that it is maleficent for
the hard drive. However, it seems that that opinion is not unanimous
according to the discussions I have consulted meanwhile -- many claim
that a hard power off is pretty safe regarding hardware.

Paul
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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Rick Stevens

On 07/12/2013 01:00 PM, Paul Smith issued this missive:

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Reindl Harald  wrote:

I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19:

smpboot: CPU2: Not responding.

The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it
without having to power off the computer?


https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

nosmp   [SMP] Tells an SMP kernel to act as a UP kernel,
 and disable the IO APIC.  legacy for "maxcpus=0"


however, if one CPU or core doe snot respond
all the time assume your hardware is dying


Thanks, Reindl. The issue was caused by the fact that I rebooted the
computer without having disconnected the external disk before. Since a
hard power off, the computer has worked just fine. But I was keen to
avoid the hard power off, as someone told me that it is maleficent for
the hard drive. However, it seems that that opinion is not unanimous
according to the discussions I have consulted meanwhile -- many claim
that a hard power off is pretty safe regarding hardware.


Power cycling (more specifically thermal cycling) is harder on the
hardware than simply leaving it on. In my 35+ years in electronics,
generally if a piece of equipment is going to die, it's going to do so
during power up or a really big swing in temperatures (such as the loss
of aircon in a data center). I will say this observation is completely
empirical and I can't back it up with hard numbers, but it is my
experience.

The occasional hard, poweroff boot shouldn't be a big deal and you may
never experience a failure because of it. I have, which is one reason
my systems at home never get powered off other than when I perform
maintenance on them. I do turn off monitors and the like, but they're
cheap to replace if they croak compared with my computers and the data
contained thereon (and yes, I back up religiously).
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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-12 Thread Joe Zeff

On 07/12/2013 01:43 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

Power cycling (more specifically thermal cycling) is harder on the
hardware than simply leaving it on. In my 35+ years in electronics,
generally if a piece of equipment is going to die, it's going to do so
during power up or a really big swing in temperatures (such as the loss
of aircon in a data center). I will say this observation is completely
empirical and I can't back it up with hard numbers, but it is my
experience.


This is why an incandescent lightbulb is much more likely to fail when 
you turn it on than at any other time.  I've read stories about bulbs 
that have been working for decades because they've never been turned 
off.  I have two reasons for leaving my desktop on 24/7: first, because 
Linux is designed to be run that way[1] and that allows me to use my 
uptime[2] as an example of how stable Linux is and second, I have BOINC 
installed and even when I'm away at a convention, or house sitting, it's 
doing useful work.


[1]i.e., "because I can."
[2]Normally, I only reboot for kernel upgrades.
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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-13 Thread g



On 07/12/2013 04:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
<>


This is why an incandescent lightbulb is much more likely to fail when
you turn it on than at any other time.


this is mainly caused by the 'inrush current" when bulb first has voltage
applied.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current


I've read stories about bulbs that have been working for decades because

> they've never been turned off.

i have a dual lamp fixture in kitchen that has been on a dimmer control from
back in late 80's. neither of the bulbs have burned out because the dimmer is
a 'zero cross on' type and because the dimmer always starts out at minimal
voltage, there is no huge inrush current.

as for leaving system power up, 'boinc' is one very good reason.

other reason is that you eliminate heating and cooling of system and thereby
causing early break down of components from inrush and dirtying contacts when
they expand and contract between each other.

as for leaving equipment turned on 24/7, systems stabilize and maintain their
accuracy this way.

granted, you electric bill will be increased, but i believe increased cost is
worth the cost of down time and repairs.

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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-13 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2013-07-13 at 01:57 -0500, g wrote:
> i have a dual lamp fixture in kitchen that has been on a dimmer
> control from back in late 80's. neither of the bulbs have burned out
> because the dimmer is a 'zero cross on' type and because the dimmer
> always starts out at minimal voltage, there is no huge inrush current.

It's common practice with film/tv/theatre lighting to preheat the lamps
before turning them on.  i.e. Before making them bright, you'll turn
them on enough so that they just barely glow.  Theatre technicians will
swear that it makes their lamps last longer, that way.  And that's
ordinary incandescents, or halogen incandescents.

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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 12.07.2013 19:49, schrieb Paul Smith:
> I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19:
> 
> smpboot: CPU2: Not responding.
> 
> The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it
> without having to power off the computer?

https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

nosmp   [SMP] Tells an SMP kernel to act as a UP kernel,
and disable the IO APIC.  legacy for "maxcpus=0"


however, if one CPU or core doe snot respond
all the time assume your hardware is dying




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Re: Computer blocked because of error smpboot CPU2: Not responding

2013-07-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 12.07.2013 22:00, schrieb Paul Smith:
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>>> I am experiencing the following problem while booting Fedora 19:
>>>
>>> smpboot: CPU2: Not responding.
>>>
>>> The computer seems to be blocked. Is there some way of rebooting it
>>> without having to power off the computer?
>>
>> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>>
>> nosmp   [SMP] Tells an SMP kernel to act as a UP kernel,
>> and disable the IO APIC.  legacy for "maxcpus=0"
>>
>>
>> however, if one CPU or core does not respond
>> all the time assume your hardware is dying
> 
> Thanks, Reindl. The issue was caused by the fact that I rebooted the
> computer without having disconnected the external disk before. Since a
> hard power off, the computer has worked just fine. But I was keen to
> avoid the hard power off, as someone told me that it is maleficent for
> the hard drive. However, it seems that that opinion is not unanimous
> according to the discussions I have consulted meanwhile -- many claim
> that a hard power off is pretty safe regarding hardware

i can not imagine why a connected external HD would result in
"smpboot: CPU2: Not responding" - this makes pretty no sense
because thes eboth facts have nothing to do with each other

so yes, the power off resolved the problem
most likely only temporary if it happens more than once at all



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