Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On 09/01/2011 10:08 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > Is there any chance that Fedora will extend security updates for F14 > until F16 comes out to allow time for gnome3 to improve? AIUI, it's standard for Fedora to provide security and other updates for each version right up until it reaches End Of Life. For F14, that will be shortly after F16 is released. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Christopher Svanefalk > wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> for those of us who are a little reluctant about moving to Gnome3 just yet, >> does anyone know if there are plans to release rpms of kernel versions later >> than 2.6.35 for F14? >> > > Is there any chance that Fedora will extend security updates for F14 > until F16 comes out to allow time for gnome3 to improve? > +1 if you agree Sorry I meant until F17 -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > Hey all, > > for those of us who are a little reluctant about moving to Gnome3 just yet, > does anyone know if there are plans to release rpms of kernel versions later > than 2.6.35 for F14? > Is there any chance that Fedora will extend security updates for F14 until F16 comes out to allow time for gnome3 to improve? +1 if you agree -- Robert Arkiletian Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver, Canada -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
Am 31.08.2011 16:57, schrieb stan: >> $ yumdownloader --source >> > That's true if you are getting the package for the currently running > system, and it is how I get src.rpm packages on F15. But doing that on > F14 will not get an F15 package. The OP is running F14 and wants newer > kernels. I didn't, however, check whether yumdownloader has an option > like yum to set other repositories while dowloading. There could be, > and in that case your suggestion will work with a little tweaking. why not simply download the src.rpm from http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:21:12 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:08 PM, stan wrote: > > Do you know if a yum clean meta would clean up the cache > > corruption after doing this? > > It appears to store the information separately. I haven't had any > problems using this. I don't think you need to do anything afterwards. > > > > Does this mean it is possible to update a non-running system by > > using releasever and installroot? e.g. update F14 from F15 > > yum -y update --releasever=14 --installdir= > > I would think so but have never tried that. I usually do the 'chroot > /mtn/sysimage' method.After that I would think it would properly > detect the release of the chroot regardless of the rescue system you > booted. Thank you Richard (and Joe) for your responses. It seems that the chroot method is the way to go. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On 08/31/2011 12:08 PM, stan wrote: > Does this mean it is possible to update a non-running system by using > releasever and installroot? e.g. update F14 from F15 > yum -y update --releasever=14 --installdir= It might, but I'd think that it'd be safer to use chroot to avoid any chance of problems. If nothing else, you'd want the F14 database updated, not the F15, even if you're doing this from a LiveCD. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:08 PM, stan wrote: >> >> $ yumdownloader --source >> >> >> > That's true if you are getting the package for the currently running >> > system, and it is how I get src.rpm packages on F15. But doing >> > that on F14 will not get an F15 package. The OP is running F14 and >> > wants newer kernels. I didn't, however, check whether >> > yumdownloader has an option like yum to set other repositories >> > while dowloading. There could be, and in that case your suggestion >> > will work with a little tweaking. >> >> $ yumdownloader --releasever=15 --source >> > > Thanks for that. After your post I looked at the options for > yumdownloader, and it turns out it inherits options from yum, and this > is one of them. Here's what it says about that option: > > --releasever=version > Pretend the current release version is the given string. > This is very useful when combined with --installroot. Note that with ... > > Do you know if a yum clean meta would clean up the cache corruption > after doing this? It appears to store the information separately. I haven't had any problems using this. I don't think you need to do anything afterwards. > Does this mean it is possible to update a non-running system by using > releasever and installroot? e.g. update F14 from F15 > yum -y update --releasever=14 --installdir= I would think so but have never tried that. I usually do the 'chroot /mtn/sysimage' method.After that I would think it would properly detect the release of the chroot regardless of the rescue system you booted. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:09:40 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:57 AM, stan wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:31:36 +0200 > > suvayu ali wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:01 AM, stan wrote: > >> > as user, rpm -ivh the src.rpm package (you will have to get this > >> > manually from a repository) > >> > > >> > >> $ yumdownloader --source > >> > > That's true if you are getting the package for the currently running > > system, and it is how I get src.rpm packages on F15. But doing > > that on F14 will not get an F15 package. The OP is running F14 and > > wants newer kernels. I didn't, however, check whether > > yumdownloader has an option like yum to set other repositories > > while dowloading. There could be, and in that case your suggestion > > will work with a little tweaking. > > $ yumdownloader --releasever=15 --source > Thanks for that. After your post I looked at the options for yumdownloader, and it turns out it inherits options from yum, and this is one of them. Here's what it says about that option: --releasever=version Pretend the current release version is the given string. This is very useful when combined with --installroot. Note that with the default upstream cachedir, of /var/cache/yum, using this option will corrupt your cache (and you can use $releasever in your cachedir configuration to stop this). Is it necessary to have the repo files for the desired repository installed, or does it get them off the web in a one-off manner? Do you know if a yum clean meta would clean up the cache corruption after doing this? Does this mean it is possible to update a non-running system by using releasever and installroot? e.g. update F14 from F15 yum -y update --releasever=14 --installdir= -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 9:57 AM, stan wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:31:36 +0200 > suvayu ali wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:01 AM, stan wrote: >> > as user, rpm -ivh the src.rpm package (you will have to get this >> > manually from a repository) >> > >> >> $ yumdownloader --source >> > That's true if you are getting the package for the currently running > system, and it is how I get src.rpm packages on F15. But doing that on > F14 will not get an F15 package. The OP is running F14 and wants newer > kernels. I didn't, however, check whether yumdownloader has an option > like yum to set other repositories while dowloading. There could be, > and in that case your suggestion will work with a little tweaking. $ yumdownloader --releasever=15 --source :) Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:31:36 +0200 suvayu ali wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:01 AM, stan wrote: > > as user, rpm -ivh the src.rpm package (you will have to get this > > manually from a repository) > > > > $ yumdownloader --source > That's true if you are getting the package for the currently running system, and it is how I get src.rpm packages on F15. But doing that on F14 will not get an F15 package. The OP is running F14 and wants newer kernels. I didn't, however, check whether yumdownloader has an option like yum to set other repositories while dowloading. There could be, and in that case your suggestion will work with a little tweaking. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:01 AM, stan wrote: > as user, rpm -ivh the src.rpm package (you will have to get this > manually from a repository) > $ yumdownloader --source -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:51:34 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > for those of us who are a little reluctant about moving to Gnome3 > just yet, does anyone know if there are plans to release rpms of > kernel versions later than 2.6.35 for F14? I can't answer your question about updates, but I can tell you that the 2.6.38 kernel src.rpm packages from F15 compile and run fine on F14. The 2.6.40 packages (version 3 kernels) compile fine but have dependency issues when installing. I didn't try resolving them. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel If you aren't making any changes to the configuration of the kernel, it is very straightforward to compile the src.rpm package. Pretty much install the rpmbuild utilities as user, rpm -ivh the src.rpm package (you will have to get this manually from a repository) cd to ~/rpmbuild/SPECS and run rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec The output will be under ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/ and you can just install the RPMs with yum (as root). I usually run dracut to create a custom initramfs tuned to my system, replacing the one in the grub menu with my own. HTH -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Continued kernel updates for F14?
On 08/25/2011 07:21 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > Hey all, > > for those of us who are a little reluctant about moving to Gnome3 just > yet, does anyone know if there are plans to release rpms of kernel > versions later than 2.6.35 for F14? You can find the status at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Continued kernel updates for F14?
Hey all, for those of us who are a little reluctant about moving to Gnome3 just yet, does anyone know if there are plans to release rpms of kernel versions later than 2.6.35 for F14? Best, Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
