Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
Hello, just to summarize the steps I followed (and so that there is no misunderstanding) I have put up this little shellscript which takes as argument the directory with all the wav files you'd like to put on the DVD-Video and makes a DVD from that with some photo in jpeg format as display. Gabriel #!/bin/bash ### Usage: ### make_music_dvd.sh DIRECTORY WITH WAVFILES DISPLAYIMAGE=display.jpg WAVDIR=$@ XMLSTRING=\ " " for wav in $(ls $WAVDIR/*.wav); do FILE=$(echo $wav|sed s/"\.wav"//g);\ ffmpeg -loop_input -shortest -i $DISPLAYIMAGE -i $FILE.wav \ -r 44100 -target pal-dvd -aspect 16:9 $FILE.mpg; \ XMLSTRING+=""; \ done XMLSTRING+=\ " " echo $XMLSTRING > dvd.xml rm -rf dvddir dvdauthor -o dvddir -x dvd.xml growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video dvddir/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
> > Hello, > > > > Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as > > follows: > > > > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target > > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg > > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target > > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 2.mpg > > $> dvdauthor -o testdvd -x dvd.xml > > $> cat dvd.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EOF > > $> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video testdvd/ > > > > The resulting DVD+RW (as I said before, I am having strange problems > > creating DVD+R but no problems with DVD+RW) plays on vlc as well as on > > my Denon DVD-player. > > > > Leaving out the video encoding doesn't seem to work, so I gave a photo > > as a loop input into ffmpeg. > > > > However, it seems as if by the point all the audio has been encoded, > > in ffmpeg's display the frame number keeps rising, but the size of the > > resulting mpg file does not increase anymore. I need to press q to > > stop ffmpeg encoding, and then I need to give it a shell interrupt > > because it does not react anymore. > > > > Surely there must be an option which I have missed on the command line > > of ffmpeg to tell it to stop loop_encoding the photo when the end of > > the audio is reached. I might have to ask this on the ffmpeg mailing > > list. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gabriel > How many > vob files do I need? One per track? > I have 36 tracks (wav files). > Also, I am using the -i option to dvda-author. > The directory dvd.out has 4 dirs: > d1, d2, d3, d4 > each d# has roughly 6 to 11 tracks > I found this site quite helpful: http://radagast.bglug.ca/linux/dvd_authoring/dvd_authoring.html I am not yet an expert at the xml file for dvdauthor (remember to use dvdauthor for video dvd, not dvda-author), so I just made my tracks in one row like this: (one per audiotrack). ... About subdiretories I have yet to gather some more information or read more indepth the website I gave you at the beginning of this message. There is another software called dvdstyler which might be in fedora (I myself use gentoo linux). It is a GUI but I think in the long run it is better to know about the xml syntax, also in combination with dvd menus. But if you want to quickly design a dvd, I think dvdstyler is superior. I am a professional musician and my plan is to make DVDs which on the TV display some information on me, the composer and maybe photos of pianos and from the composers life. I might in the long run try to compose visually more interesting still images containing such information with the povray software. That's still a long way to go. Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
JD wrote: >On 08/11/2010 12:50 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:36:30AM -0700, JD wrote: >> >>> On 08/11/2010 05:34 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:28:51PM -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/10/2010 05:15 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > >> li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >> >>> Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD >>> and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. >> This is about the only way I could get this to work. >> >> It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, >> any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make >> it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music >> formats DVD-A. >> >> The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long >> play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) >> >> Kdenlive works >> > So, how do I create a DVD-Video without the Video, but with only Audio? > KdEnlive can do that? > Guess I need to read up and the how to! > Hello, Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as follows: $>ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg $>ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 2.mpg $>dvdauthor -o testdvd -x dvd.xml $>cat dvd.xml EOF $>growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video testdvd/ The resulting DVD+RW (as I said before, I am having strange problems creating DVD+R but no problems with DVD+RW) plays on vlc as well as on my Denon DVD-player. Leaving out the video encoding doesn't seem to work, so I gave a photo as a loop input into ffmpeg. However, it seems as if by the point all the audio has been encoded, in ffmpeg's display the frame number keeps rising, but the size of the resulting mpg file does not increase anymore. I need to press q to stop ffmpeg encoding, and then I need to give it a shell interrupt because it does not react anymore. Surely there must be an option which I have missed on the command line of ffmpeg to tell it to stop loop_encoding the photo when the end of the audio is reached. I might have to ask this on the ffmpeg mailing list. Regards, Gabriel >>> Thank you Gabriel. >>> I have seen similar behavior to ffmpeg in ffplay - it just will not stop >>> after the audio has been played. >>> Guess the program writer(s) were not looking for EOF? :) :) >>> >> Well, you have to put the -shortest option to ffmpeg, then it works >> fine. I asked on the ffmpeg list. Although I still have the >> impression that the video is slightly longer than the original >> soundtrack, there is something added to the end of the file where >> there is no sound anymore, but still video. >> > Does that not have to do with what wodim or cdrecord or dvdrecord > do in order to pad the audio track to be a multiple of 2352 bytes? > The silence could be that padding. > >> Somebody else on that list suggested: >> >> "what if you knew the trt of your wav - which you must know , ie: it >> is 5 min long , -t 5 >> >> ffmpeg -loop_input -i display.jpg -t 00:05:00:00 -i 1.wav -r 44100 >> -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg" >> >> I haven't tried that yet. >> >> If you just want to have audio on the dvd, I think you cannot leave >> out video, but maybe you can just add a blank screen as video. >> >> Tell me about your results. >> > I am waiting for your reply to my question re: the xml file content. > How many image file entries do I have to have when I have 36 total tracks > distributed unevenly in 4 dirs under the dir dvd.out? > > >> Gabriel >> > I have some success with burning a data dvd with wav files. Most players will see the wav files and play them. That way you are not limited to time ( length of time on dvd ) and only limited to size. You can get quite a bit on a dvd. Try it with your deck. I have no problem with mine but it will play mp3 audio so it is able to pick up files. So give that a try and make a Data DVD with wav files. Michael -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidel
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/11/2010 12:50 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:36:30AM -0700, JD wrote: >>On 08/11/2010 05:34 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:28:51PM -0700, JD wrote: On 08/10/2010 05:15 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >> Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD >>> and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give >>> you >>> a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified >>> for >>> a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any >>> DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. > This is about the only way I could get this to work. > > It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, > any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make > it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music > formats DVD-A. > > The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long > play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) > > Kdenlive works So, how do I create a DVD-Video without the Video, but with only Audio? KdEnlive can do that? Guess I need to read up and the how to! >>> Hello, >>> >>> Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as >>> follows: >>> >>> $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target >>> pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg >>> $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target >>> pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 2.mpg >>> $> dvdauthor -o testdvd -x dvd.xml >>> $> cat dvd.xml >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> EOF >>> $> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video testdvd/ >>> >>> The resulting DVD+RW (as I said before, I am having strange problems >>> creating DVD+R but no problems with DVD+RW) plays on vlc as well as on >>> my Denon DVD-player. >>> >>> Leaving out the video encoding doesn't seem to work, so I gave a photo >>> as a loop input into ffmpeg. >>> >>> However, it seems as if by the point all the audio has been encoded, >>> in ffmpeg's display the frame number keeps rising, but the size of the >>> resulting mpg file does not increase anymore. I need to press q to >>> stop ffmpeg encoding, and then I need to give it a shell interrupt >>> because it does not react anymore. >>> >>> Surely there must be an option which I have missed on the command line >>> of ffmpeg to tell it to stop loop_encoding the photo when the end of >>> the audio is reached. I might have to ask this on the ffmpeg mailing >>> list. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Gabriel >>> >> Thank you Gabriel. >> I have seen similar behavior to ffmpeg in ffplay - it just will not stop >> after the audio has been played. >> Guess the program writer(s) were not looking for EOF? :) :) > > Well, you have to put the -shortest option to ffmpeg, then it works > fine. I asked on the ffmpeg list. Although I still have the > impression that the video is slightly longer than the original > soundtrack, there is something added to the end of the file where > there is no sound anymore, but still video. Does that not have to do with what wodim or cdrecord or dvdrecord do in order to pad the audio track to be a multiple of 2352 bytes? The silence could be that padding. > Somebody else on that list suggested: > > "what if you knew the trt of your wav - which you must know , ie: it > is 5 min long , -t 5 > > ffmpeg -loop_input -i display.jpg -t 00:05:00:00 -i 1.wav -r 44100 > -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg" > > I haven't tried that yet. > > If you just want to have audio on the dvd, I think you cannot leave > out video, but maybe you can just add a blank screen as video. > > Tell me about your results. I am waiting for your reply to my question re: the xml file content. How many image file entries do I have to have when I have 36 total tracks distributed unevenly in 4 dirs under the dir dvd.out? > Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/11/2010 05:34 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:28:51PM -0700, JD wrote: >>On 08/10/2010 05:15 PM, Michael Miles wrote: >>> li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD >and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you >a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for >a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any >DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. >>> This is about the only way I could get this to work. >>> >>> It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, >>> any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make >>> it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music >>> formats DVD-A. >>> >>> The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long >>> play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) >>> >>> Kdenlive works >> So, how do I create a DVD-Video without the Video, but with only Audio? >> KdEnlive can do that? >> Guess I need to read up and the how to! > Hello, > > Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as > follows: > > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 2.mpg > $> dvdauthor -o testdvd -x dvd.xml > $> cat dvd.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > EOF > $> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video testdvd/ > > The resulting DVD+RW (as I said before, I am having strange problems > creating DVD+R but no problems with DVD+RW) plays on vlc as well as on > my Denon DVD-player. > > Leaving out the video encoding doesn't seem to work, so I gave a photo > as a loop input into ffmpeg. > > However, it seems as if by the point all the audio has been encoded, > in ffmpeg's display the frame number keeps rising, but the size of the > resulting mpg file does not increase anymore. I need to press q to > stop ffmpeg encoding, and then I need to give it a shell interrupt > because it does not react anymore. > > Surely there must be an option which I have missed on the command line > of ffmpeg to tell it to stop loop_encoding the photo when the end of > the audio is reached. I might have to ask this on the ffmpeg mailing > list. > > Regards, > > Gabriel How many vob files do I need? One per track? I have 36 tracks (wav files). Also, I am using the -i option to dvda-author. The directory dvd.out has 4 dirs: d1, d2, d3, d4 each d# has roughly 6 to 11 tracks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:36:30AM -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/11/2010 05:34 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:28:51PM -0700, JD wrote: > >>On 08/10/2010 05:15 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > >>> li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD > >and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you > >a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for > >a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any > >DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. > >>> This is about the only way I could get this to work. > >>> > >>> It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, > >>> any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make > >>> it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music > >>> formats DVD-A. > >>> > >>> The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long > >>> play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) > >>> > >>> Kdenlive works > >> So, how do I create a DVD-Video without the Video, but with only Audio? > >> KdEnlive can do that? > >> Guess I need to read up and the how to! > > Hello, > > > > Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as > > follows: > > > > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target > > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg > > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target > > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 2.mpg > > $> dvdauthor -o testdvd -x dvd.xml > > $> cat dvd.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EOF > > $> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video testdvd/ > > > > The resulting DVD+RW (as I said before, I am having strange problems > > creating DVD+R but no problems with DVD+RW) plays on vlc as well as on > > my Denon DVD-player. > > > > Leaving out the video encoding doesn't seem to work, so I gave a photo > > as a loop input into ffmpeg. > > > > However, it seems as if by the point all the audio has been encoded, > > in ffmpeg's display the frame number keeps rising, but the size of the > > resulting mpg file does not increase anymore. I need to press q to > > stop ffmpeg encoding, and then I need to give it a shell interrupt > > because it does not react anymore. > > > > Surely there must be an option which I have missed on the command line > > of ffmpeg to tell it to stop loop_encoding the photo when the end of > > the audio is reached. I might have to ask this on the ffmpeg mailing > > list. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gabriel > > > Thank you Gabriel. > I have seen similar behavior to ffmpeg in ffplay - it just will not stop > after the audio has been played. > Guess the program writer(s) were not looking for EOF? :) :) Well, you have to put the -shortest option to ffmpeg, then it works fine. I asked on the ffmpeg list. Although I still have the impression that the video is slightly longer than the original soundtrack, there is something added to the end of the file where there is no sound anymore, but still video. Somebody else on that list suggested: "what if you knew the trt of your wav - which you must know , ie: it is 5 min long , -t 5 ffmpeg -loop_input -i display.jpg -t 00:05:00:00 -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg" I haven't tried that yet. If you just want to have audio on the dvd, I think you cannot leave out video, but maybe you can just add a blank screen as video. Tell me about your results. Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/11/2010 05:34 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:28:51PM -0700, JD wrote: >>On 08/10/2010 05:15 PM, Michael Miles wrote: >>> li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD >and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you >a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for >a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any >DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. >>> This is about the only way I could get this to work. >>> >>> It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, >>> any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make >>> it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music >>> formats DVD-A. >>> >>> The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long >>> play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) >>> >>> Kdenlive works >> So, how do I create a DVD-Video without the Video, but with only Audio? >> KdEnlive can do that? >> Guess I need to read up and the how to! > Hello, > > Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as > follows: > > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg > $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target > pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 2.mpg > $> dvdauthor -o testdvd -x dvd.xml > $> cat dvd.xml > > > > > > > > > > > > EOF > $> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video testdvd/ > > The resulting DVD+RW (as I said before, I am having strange problems > creating DVD+R but no problems with DVD+RW) plays on vlc as well as on > my Denon DVD-player. > > Leaving out the video encoding doesn't seem to work, so I gave a photo > as a loop input into ffmpeg. > > However, it seems as if by the point all the audio has been encoded, > in ffmpeg's display the frame number keeps rising, but the size of the > resulting mpg file does not increase anymore. I need to press q to > stop ffmpeg encoding, and then I need to give it a shell interrupt > because it does not react anymore. > > Surely there must be an option which I have missed on the command line > of ffmpeg to tell it to stop loop_encoding the photo when the end of > the audio is reached. I might have to ask this on the ffmpeg mailing > list. > > Regards, > > Gabriel > Thank you Gabriel. I have seen similar behavior to ffmpeg in ffplay - it just will not stop after the audio has been played. Guess the program writer(s) were not looking for EOF? :) :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:28:51PM -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/10/2010 05:15 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > > li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > >> Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD > >>> and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you > >>> a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for > >>> a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any > >>> DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. > >> > > This is about the only way I could get this to work. > > > > It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, > > any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make > > it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music > > formats DVD-A. > > > > The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long > > play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) > > > > Kdenlive works > So, how do I create a DVD-Video without the Video, but with only Audio? > KdEnlive can do that? > Guess I need to read up and the how to! Hello, Well, my steps to make a Video-DVD containing mainly audio are as follows: $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 1.wav -r 44100 -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 1.mpg $> ffmpeg -loop_input -t 2000 -i display.jpg -i 2.wav -r 44100 -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 2.mpg $> dvdauthor -o testdvd -x dvd.xml $> cat dvd.xml EOF $> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0 -dvd-video testdvd/ The resulting DVD+RW (as I said before, I am having strange problems creating DVD+R but no problems with DVD+RW) plays on vlc as well as on my Denon DVD-player. Leaving out the video encoding doesn't seem to work, so I gave a photo as a loop input into ffmpeg. However, it seems as if by the point all the audio has been encoded, in ffmpeg's display the frame number keeps rising, but the size of the resulting mpg file does not increase anymore. I need to press q to stop ffmpeg encoding, and then I need to give it a shell interrupt because it does not react anymore. Surely there must be an option which I have missed on the command line of ffmpeg to tell it to stop loop_encoding the photo when the end of the audio is reached. I might have to ask this on the ffmpeg mailing list. Regards, Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 10:22 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > You probably want FLAC (and memory sticks are easier than discs!). > FLAC will happily carry multi-channel audio in lossless format, and > can handle things like multi-channel audio, 96KHz (it'll do 500KHz if > you are recording music for bats ;) ) Though, more expensive than discs, but can have a bigger capacity. If you were distributing files, you'd have to find out what media and file formats your recipients could handle, and want. Flac ought to be acceptable, but I'd still check. Even WAV can be a problem, depending on the bitrate that you use. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
> have learned that DVD-A is not a solution after all. I probably need > to give out harddisks with recording material or Data DVDs with audio > material recorded at higher sample rates than 48k. You probably want FLAC (and memory sticks are easier than discs!). FLAC will happily carry multi-channel audio in lossless format, and can handle things like multi-channel audio, 96KHz (it'll do 500KHz if you are recording music for bats ;) ) Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 05:15:04PM -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > > Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD > > > and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you > > > a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for > > > a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any > > > DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. > > > This is about the only way I could get this to work. > > It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, > any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make > it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music > formats DVD-A. > > The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long > play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) > > Kdenlive works I will try out using command line dvd-author... I, as a professional musician myself, was wondering how I would publish recording material in an open source friendly way. Today I have learned that DVD-A is not a solution after all. I probably need to give out harddisks with recording material or Data DVDs with audio material recorded at higher sample rates than 48k. ;) Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 05:15 PM, Michael Miles wrote: > li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >> Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD >>> and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you >>> a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for >>> a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any >>> DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. >> > This is about the only way I could get this to work. > > It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, > any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make > it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music > formats DVD-A. > > The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long > play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) > > Kdenlive works So, how do I create a DVD-Video without the Video, but with only Audio? KdEnlive can do that? Guess I need to read up and the how to! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD > > and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you > > a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for > > a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any > > DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. > This is about the only way I could get this to work. It's a shame but the big problem is the Media companies. Mp3, aac, ogg, any of the lossy formats are ok with them but lossless, mo way they make it hard. No real support for probably one of the better music formats DVD-A. The work around is DVD-Video with out the video. Use in a 4 hour long play and it gets a few cd there (5-6) Kdenlive works -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 02:07:59AM +0200, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > > But dvda-author has no way of re-encoding the audio files at 192k > > This would be the task of some audio program. Not quite, this would mean adding information to a file which has only 44.1k information in it. > > > My audio files on the hard drive are in wav format, which ffmpeg says > > the bit rate is 1411 kb/s > > which is huge (1.411 megabits/s). > > According to > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rate > this would be equivalent to CD quality. > What does the output of "file" say? > > > > > > Please keep me posted on your effort. If it works, ... I will be busy > > recording :) > > Yes, I will. > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
> > As I have some old cars myself (67 Jag 340 and a 70 Jag E-Type), I was > > faced with a similar problem. My CD collection has been ripped to my > > system at home, so I have MP3s (and other versions of the same stuff > > using different codecs) out the wazoo. > > > > In my E-Type I use an iPod or other MP3 player and an FM transmitter > > (which does double-duty being used with my portable XM receiver). It's > > not ideal, but the E-Type is a noisy car anyway, being a roadster and > > all. > > > > I put a new radio into the 340 that has both a USB and an aux input. > > I can plug the iPod or other USB player into the USB. The radio can > > deal with a VFAT-formatted USB flash drive, so I put a bunch of CD > > content on an 8GB flash. Plug it in and go. The XM plugs into the aux > > input. I like this radio. I may replace the one in the E-Type with > > one of these. > > -- > > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - > > - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - > > -- > > - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - > > -- > Good solution Rick! > My 2007 Camry does not have a USB port, > nor a tape player - only a CD player. That's > the factory thing. > Hmmm... I will talk to the Toyota dealer to see > if they have an adapter. I do not want to gut out > the factory stuff and put in an aftermarket. > My Jag S-type 4.2 from 2004 plays only CDs! ;) Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
> But dvda-author has no way of re-encoding the audio files at 192k This would be the task of some audio program. > My audio files on the hard drive are in wav format, which ffmpeg says > the bit rate is 1411 kb/s > which is huge (1.411 megabits/s). According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rate this would be equivalent to CD quality. What does the output of "file" say? > > Please keep me posted on your effort. If it works, ... I will be busy > recording :) Yes, I will. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 04:57 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/10/2010 04:19 PM, JD wrote: >> On 08/10/2010 04:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >>> On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >> So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: >> >> dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav >> mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD >> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso >> >> I followed the howto on: >> http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml >> >> I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from >> that howto. >> >> And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays >> fine. >> >> However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf >> /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. >> >> Regards, >> >> Gabriel > Hi Gabriel, > Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? > In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the /etc/fstab-file works fine. How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, however. Hope we'll find out soon. >>> Unless your computer's DVD drive supports DVD-A, you're stuck. The >>> drive must support DVD-A internally. The audio on DVD-A is not the >>> same as the audio tracks on a DVD. Totally different beast (different, >>> lossless encoders used, higher bitrates, etc.). It's similar to trying >>> to play an SACD on a non-SACD-compatible drive. >>> >>> AFAIK, there are very few internal DVD-A drives available. You could >>> wire your Denon into the line inputs of your sound card, but I'm sure >>> you thought of that. >> That is really sad! >> I had hoped to pack several CD's per DVD so I could play them >> in my car's dvd player. >> OK, so my next attempt is to create an mp3 dvd - but oh.. wait! >> my car's dvd player is not mp3 capable either. > As I have some old cars myself (67 Jag 340 and a 70 Jag E-Type), I was > faced with a similar problem. My CD collection has been ripped to my > system at home, so I have MP3s (and other versions of the same stuff > using different codecs) out the wazoo. > > In my E-Type I use an iPod or other MP3 player and an FM transmitter > (which does double-duty being used with my portable XM receiver). It's > not ideal, but the E-Type is a noisy car anyway, being a roadster and > all. > > I put a new radio into the 340 that has both a USB and an aux input. > I can plug the iPod or other USB player into the USB. The radio can > deal with a VFAT-formatted USB flash drive, so I put a bunch of CD > content on an 8GB flash. Plug it in and go. The XM plugs into the aux > input. I like this radio. I may replace the one in the E-Type with > one of these. > -- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - > -- > - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - > -- Good solution Rick! My 2007 Camry does not have a USB port, nor a tape player - only a CD player. That's the factory thing. Hmmm... I will talk to the Toyota dealer to see if they have an adapter. I do not want to gut out the factory stuff and put in an aftermarket. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 04:19 PM, JD wrote: >On 08/10/2010 04:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: > > dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav > mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD > growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso > > I followed the howto on: > http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml > > I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from > that howto. > > And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays > fine. > > However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf > /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. > > Regards, > > Gabriel Hi Gabriel, Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? >>> In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and >>> mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the >>> DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t >>> iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the >>> /etc/fstab-file works fine. >>> >>> How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, >>> however. Hope we'll find out soon. >> Unless your computer's DVD drive supports DVD-A, you're stuck. The >> drive must support DVD-A internally. The audio on DVD-A is not the >> same as the audio tracks on a DVD. Totally different beast (different, >> lossless encoders used, higher bitrates, etc.). It's similar to trying >> to play an SACD on a non-SACD-compatible drive. >> >> AFAIK, there are very few internal DVD-A drives available. You could >> wire your Denon into the line inputs of your sound card, but I'm sure >> you thought of that. > That is really sad! > I had hoped to pack several CD's per DVD so I could play them > in my car's dvd player. > OK, so my next attempt is to create an mp3 dvd - but oh.. wait! > my car's dvd player is not mp3 capable either. As I have some old cars myself (67 Jag 340 and a 70 Jag E-Type), I was faced with a similar problem. My CD collection has been ripped to my system at home, so I have MP3s (and other versions of the same stuff using different codecs) out the wazoo. In my E-Type I use an iPod or other MP3 player and an FM transmitter (which does double-duty being used with my portable XM receiver). It's not ideal, but the E-Type is a noisy car anyway, being a roadster and all. I put a new radio into the 340 that has both a USB and an aux input. I can plug the iPod or other USB player into the USB. The radio can deal with a VFAT-formatted USB flash drive, so I put a bunch of CD content on an 8GB flash. Plug it in and go. The XM plugs into the aux input. I like this radio. I may replace the one in the E-Type with one of these. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:38:48AM +0200, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:08:31PM -0700, JD wrote: > > On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > > >>> So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: > > >>> > > >>> dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav > > >>> mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD > > >>> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso > > >>> > > >>> I followed the howto on: > > >>> http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml > > >>> > > >>> I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from > > >>> that howto. > > >>> > > >>> And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays > > >>> fine. > > >>> > > >>> However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf > > >>> /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> > > >>> Gabriel > > >> Hi Gabriel, > > >> Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? > > >> > > > In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and > > > mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the > > > DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t > > > iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the > > > /etc/fstab-file works fine. > > > > > > How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, > > > however. Hope we'll find out soon. > > > > > > Gabriel > > I received a reply from a developer of dvda-author: > > I had remarked: > > > I have not been able to play the resulting DVD > > > with any of the Linux media players. > > > They just do not seem to recognize it. > > And Fabrice replied: > > On 08/07/2010 12:27 PM, fab...@noos.fr wrote: > > > > > > hi > > > > > > the spec file is in the package, and discs do not play on media > > > players currently, this is normal behavior. > > > > > > Fab > > > > > Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD > and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you > a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for > a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any > DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. > > Gabriel >From what they say on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio it seems that the analog output of my Denon DVD-A-Player wouldn't give you a higher sample-rate than 48kHz anyway, because anything above that would require encryption on the part of any other equipment, which I don't have. Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 04:38 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:08:31PM -0700, JD wrote: >>On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: > > dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav > mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD > growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso > > I followed the howto on: > http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml > > I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from > that howto. > > And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays > fine. > > However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf > /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. > > Regards, > > Gabriel Hi Gabriel, Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? >>> In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and >>> mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the >>> DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t >>> iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the >>> /etc/fstab-file works fine. >>> >>> How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, >>> however. Hope we'll find out soon. >>> >>> Gabriel >> I received a reply from a developer of dvda-author: >> I had remarked: >> > I have not been able to play the resulting DVD >> > with any of the Linux media players. >> > They just do not seem to recognize it. >> And Fabrice replied: >> On 08/07/2010 12:27 PM, fab...@noos.fr wrote: >>> hi >>> >>> the spec file is in the package, and discs do not play on media >>> players currently, this is normal behavior. >>> >>> Fab >>> > Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD > and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you > a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for > a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any > DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. > > Gabriel But dvda-author has no way of re-encoding the audio files at 192k My audio files on the hard drive are in wav format, which ffmpeg says the bit rate is 1411 kb/s which is huge (1.411 megabits/s). Please keep me posted on your effort. If it works, ... I will be busy recording :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:08:31PM -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > >>> So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: > >>> > >>> dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav > >>> mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD > >>> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso > >>> > >>> I followed the howto on: > >>> http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml > >>> > >>> I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from > >>> that howto. > >>> > >>> And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays > >>> fine. > >>> > >>> However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf > >>> /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Gabriel > >> Hi Gabriel, > >> Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? > >> > > In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and > > mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the > > DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t > > iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the > > /etc/fstab-file works fine. > > > > How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, > > however. Hope we'll find out soon. > > > > Gabriel > I received a reply from a developer of dvda-author: > I had remarked: > > I have not been able to play the resulting DVD > > with any of the Linux media players. > > They just do not seem to recognize it. > And Fabrice replied: > On 08/07/2010 12:27 PM, fab...@noos.fr wrote: > > > > hi > > > > the spec file is in the package, and discs do not play on media > > players currently, this is normal behavior. > > > > Fab > > Maybe a solution to this would be to put the wav files on a Video-DVD and leave the video directory empty. This would however only give you a sample rate of 48000 Hz instead of up to 192000 Hz as specified for a DVD-A. But then at least you could play the DVD on most any DVD-player. I am going to try that tomorrow. Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 04:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso I followed the howto on: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from that howto. And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays fine. However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. Regards, Gabriel >>> Hi Gabriel, >>> Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? >>> >> In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and >> mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the >> DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t >> iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the >> /etc/fstab-file works fine. >> >> How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, >> however. Hope we'll find out soon. > Unless your computer's DVD drive supports DVD-A, you're stuck. The > drive must support DVD-A internally. The audio on DVD-A is not the > same as the audio tracks on a DVD. Totally different beast (different, > lossless encoders used, higher bitrates, etc.). It's similar to trying > to play an SACD on a non-SACD-compatible drive. > > AFAIK, there are very few internal DVD-A drives available. You could > wire your Denon into the line inputs of your sound card, but I'm sure > you thought of that. > -- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - > -- > - To iterate is human, to recurse, divine. - > -- That is really sad! I had hoped to pack several CD's per DVD so I could play them in my car's dvd player. OK, so my next attempt is to create an mp3 dvd - but oh.. wait! my car's dvd player is not mp3 capable either. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >>> So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: >>> >>> dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav >>> mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD >>> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso >>> >>> I followed the howto on: >>> http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml >>> >>> I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from >>> that howto. >>> >>> And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays >>> fine. >>> >>> However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf >>> /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Gabriel >> Hi Gabriel, >> Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? >> > In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and > mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the > DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t > iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the > /etc/fstab-file works fine. > > How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, > however. Hope we'll find out soon. > > Gabriel I received a reply from a developer of dvda-author: I had remarked: > I have not been able to play the resulting DVD > with any of the Linux media players. > They just do not seem to recognize it. And Fabrice replied: On 08/07/2010 12:27 PM, fab...@noos.fr wrote: > > hi > > the spec file is in the package, and discs do not play on media > players currently, this is normal behavior. > > Fab > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 03:33 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >>> So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: >>> >>> dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav >>> mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD >>> growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso >>> >>> I followed the howto on: >>> http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml >>> >>> I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from >>> that howto. >>> >>> And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays >>> fine. >>> >>> However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf >>> /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Gabriel >> Hi Gabriel, >> Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? >> > > In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and > mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the > DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t > iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the > /etc/fstab-file works fine. > > How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, > however. Hope we'll find out soon. Unless your computer's DVD drive supports DVD-A, you're stuck. The drive must support DVD-A internally. The audio on DVD-A is not the same as the audio tracks on a DVD. Totally different beast (different, lossless encoders used, higher bitrates, etc.). It's similar to trying to play an SACD on a non-SACD-compatible drive. AFAIK, there are very few internal DVD-A drives available. You could wire your Denon into the line inputs of your sound card, but I'm sure you thought of that. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - To iterate is human, to recurse, divine. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 02:47 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 12:01:21PM -0700, JD wrote: >>On 08/07/2010 11:32 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >>> There is a site on a an open source tool: >>> http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ >>> They say that not every home dvd player is able to play DVD-Audio. >>> >>> Since I am also interested in this, I will give it a try during the >>> next days. I have a Denon 1920, which should support SACD, DVD-Video >>> and DVD-Audio (it explicitly says so on the cover, so I suppose there >>> should be some DVD players which don't support DVD Audio). I will try >>> my result out on that one as well as on xine and/or mplayer. >>> >>> Maybe you need the UDF file system support from your kernel? At least >>> that's what is hinted at on the dvd audio site. >>> >> Thanx for for the reply. >> I can confirm that my kernel has UDF support: >> $ egrep -i udf /boot/config-`uname-r` >> CONFIG_UDF_FS=m >> CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y >> >> Waiting for your results. >> >> For WIW, here is the link for dvd audio tools: >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd-audio/ > > Well, I am coming back to this a bit late, since I had a problem > getting DVD+R to burn on my laptop; it still doesn't work and I filed > a post to the gentoo-users mailing list. > > So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: > > dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav > mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD > growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso > > I followed the howto on: > http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml > > I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from > that howto. > > And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays > fine. > > However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf > /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. The mkisofs manual states that UDF is alpha at this time and that you cannot create UDF-only images. The UDF data is coupled to the Joliet structures. Consequently you can't mount it as a UDF filesystem. You must mount it as iso9660 or other Joliet-compatible system. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - Tempt not the dragons of fate, since thou art crunchy and taste - - good with ketchup. - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
> > So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: > > > > dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav > > mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD > > growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso > > > > I followed the howto on: > > http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml > > > > I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from > > that howto. > > > > And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays > > fine. > > > > However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf > > /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gabriel > Hi Gabriel, > Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? > In fact, that worked. I had set the option "auto" in my /etc/fstab and mount without the "-t" option recognized the udf filesystem on the DVD-A and gave an "unknown filesystem error. The command "mount -t iso9660" as well as giving the filesystem type option iso9660 in the /etc/fstab-file works fine. How to play a DVD-A on the linux computer remains yet a mistery to me, however. Hope we'll find out soon. Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/10/2010 02:47 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 12:01:21PM -0700, JD wrote: >>On 08/07/2010 11:32 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: >>> There is a site on a an open source tool: >>> http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ >>> They say that not every home dvd player is able to play DVD-Audio. >>> >>> Since I am also interested in this, I will give it a try during the >>> next days. I have a Denon 1920, which should support SACD, DVD-Video >>> and DVD-Audio (it explicitly says so on the cover, so I suppose there >>> should be some DVD players which don't support DVD Audio). I will try >>> my result out on that one as well as on xine and/or mplayer. >>> >>> Maybe you need the UDF file system support from your kernel? At least >>> that's what is hinted at on the dvd audio site. >>> >> Thanx for for the reply. >> I can confirm that my kernel has UDF support: >> $ egrep -i udf /boot/config-`uname-r` >> CONFIG_UDF_FS=m >> CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y >> >> Waiting for your results. >> >> For WIW, here is the link for dvd audio tools: >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd-audio/ > Well, I am coming back to this a bit late, since I had a problem > getting DVD+R to burn on my laptop; it still doesn't work and I filed > a post to the gentoo-users mailing list. > > So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: > > dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav > mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD > growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso > > I followed the howto on: > http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml > > I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from > that howto. > > And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays > fine. > > However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf > /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. > > Regards, > > Gabriel Hi Gabriel, Did you try to mount it with -t iso9660 instead of udf? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Sat, Aug 07, 2010 at 12:01:21PM -0700, JD wrote: > On 08/07/2010 11:32 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > > There is a site on a an open source tool: > > http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ > > They say that not every home dvd player is able to play DVD-Audio. > > > > Since I am also interested in this, I will give it a try during the > > next days. I have a Denon 1920, which should support SACD, DVD-Video > > and DVD-Audio (it explicitly says so on the cover, so I suppose there > > should be some DVD players which don't support DVD Audio). I will try > > my result out on that one as well as on xine and/or mplayer. > > > > Maybe you need the UDF file system support from your kernel? At least > > that's what is hinted at on the dvd audio site. > > > Thanx for for the reply. > I can confirm that my kernel has UDF support: > $ egrep -i udf /boot/config-`uname-r` > CONFIG_UDF_FS=m > CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y > > Waiting for your results. > > For WIW, here is the link for dvd audio tools: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd-audio/ Well, I am coming back to this a bit late, since I had a problem getting DVD+R to burn on my laptop; it still doesn't work and I filed a post to the gentoo-users mailing list. So I managed to write a DVD-A on a DVD+RW with the following steps: dvda-author -o DVD -g *.wav mkisofs -o image.iso -sort sort.txt -udf DVD growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=image.iso I followed the howto on: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/howto.shtml I do not have the mkisofs patch applied and used the sort file from that howto. And on my Denon DVD-1920, an explicit SACD and DVD-A player, it plays fine. However, I cannot mount the so-created DVD-A using mount -t udf /dev/sr0 /mnt/udf; it gives me an "unknown filesystem" error. Regards, Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 20:32 +0200, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > They say that not every home dvd player is able to play DVD-Audio. For what it's worth, I haven't come across any that do. I get the impression that it's really a niche market, like the original laser (video) discs. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On 08/07/2010 11:32 AM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote: > There is a site on a an open source tool: > http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ > They say that not every home dvd player is able to play DVD-Audio. > > Since I am also interested in this, I will give it a try during the > next days. I have a Denon 1920, which should support SACD, DVD-Video > and DVD-Audio (it explicitly says so on the cover, so I suppose there > should be some DVD players which don't support DVD Audio). I will try > my result out on that one as well as on xine and/or mplayer. > > Maybe you need the UDF file system support from your kernel? At least > that's what is hinted at on the dvd audio site. > Thanx for for the reply. I can confirm that my kernel has UDF support: $ egrep -i udf /boot/config-`uname-r` CONFIG_UDF_FS=m CONFIG_UDF_NLS=y Waiting for your results. For WIW, here is the link for dvd audio tools: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd-audio/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 11:51:30AM -0700, JD wrote: > I have ripped several CD's to wave files. > I deliberately numbered the wave tracks > in a sequential order that keeps the order > of play of each original cd. > > I then used dvda-author to create the audio dvd directory. > I then used growisofs to burn it to a DVD. > > I can mount the resulting DVD and it has the > directories audio_ts/and video_ts/ > Of course the video_ts is empty. > The audio_ts has several triplets of > ats_01_0.bup > ats_01_0.ifo > ats_01_1.aob > ats_02_0.bup > ats_02_0.ifo > ats_03_1.aob > . > . > . > ...etc for numbers ats_4, ats_5, ats_6, ...etc. > and has the final triplet > > audio_pp.ifo > audio_ts.bup > audio_ts.ifo > > Problem is I am unable to play it back with any Linux based > media players (xine, mplayer, vlc, ogle, rhythmbox...etc). > Even the home video player does not recognize it as playable > media. There is a site on a an open source tool: http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ They say that not every home dvd player is able to play DVD-Audio. Since I am also interested in this, I will give it a try during the next days. I have a Denon 1920, which should support SACD, DVD-Video and DVD-Audio (it explicitly says so on the cover, so I suppose there should be some DVD players which don't support DVD Audio). I will try my result out on that one as well as on xine and/or mplayer. Maybe you need the UDF file system support from your kernel? At least that's what is hinted at on the dvd audio site. > > Has anyone successfully done this? > > Thank. > > JD Regards, Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Creating an Audio only DVD from several CD's
I have ripped several CD's to wave files. I deliberately numbered the wave tracks in a sequential order that keeps the order of play of each original cd. I then used dvda-author to create the audio dvd directory. I then used growisofs to burn it to a DVD. I can mount the resulting DVD and it has the directories audio_ts/and video_ts/ Of course the video_ts is empty. The audio_ts has several triplets of ats_01_0.bup ats_01_0.ifo ats_01_1.aob ats_02_0.bup ats_02_0.ifo ats_03_1.aob . . . ...etc for numbers ats_4, ats_5, ats_6, ...etc. and has the final triplet audio_pp.ifo audio_ts.bup audio_ts.ifo Problem is I am unable to play it back with any Linux based media players (xine, mplayer, vlc, ogle, rhythmbox...etc). Even the home video player does not recognize it as playable media. Has anyone successfully done this? Thank. JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
