Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 12/28/2010 02:48 PM, James Mckenzie wrote:
> Tim  wrote:
>> Tim:
 Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
 things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.
>> Daniel B. Thurman:
>>> Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent.  I do get
>>> page up/down but if you "flip" the wheel up or down quickly (fast
>>> scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying.
>> Is it a mouse with extra buttons on the side?  Perhaps one's become
>> extremely sensitive to touch.
>>
> If you were to call this in, the company would come back with 'this is normal 
> behavior' and close it out, because IT IS.  I get the same thing on my Mac if 
> I attempt to 'quick scroll' with the trackpad.  No pretty, but that is how it 
> works.
>
> James McKenzie
>
As it turns out, somehow the mouse driver was in an unstable
state, because when I rebooted the system, the problem went
away.  What was happening was that when I scrolled FF or TB
to the bottom with the thumb-wheel, and then scrolled up, one
notch - it went into a behaviour that either changed something
in another page (instead of scrolling up in the page where the
mouse focus is) or opened something else in yet another pane.
I think this is not normal behaviour, but I could be wrong.

But for now, I do not have this problem after rebooting, so I will
not pursue this issue any further, but interestingly - it only happens
with FF & TB.

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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 12/28/2010 02:11 PM, Tim wrote:
> Tim:
>>> Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
>>> things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.
> Daniel B. Thurman:
>> Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent.  I do get
>> page up/down but if you "flip" the wheel up or down quickly (fast
>> scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying.
> Is it a mouse with extra buttons on the side?  Perhaps one's become
> extremely sensitive to touch.
It is a Logitech, M110, 2-button, Optical Mouse

But like I said, Mozilla (FF/TB) seem to be affected,
and nothing else, AFAIK.

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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread James Mckenzie
Tim  wrote:
>
>Tim:
>>> Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
>>> things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.
>
>Daniel B. Thurman:
>> Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent.  I do get
>> page up/down but if you "flip" the wheel up or down quickly (fast
>> scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying.
>
>Is it a mouse with extra buttons on the side?  Perhaps one's become
>extremely sensitive to touch.
>
If you were to call this in, the company would come back with 'this is normal 
behavior' and close it out, because IT IS.  I get the same thing on my Mac if I 
attempt to 'quick scroll' with the trackpad.  No pretty, but that is how it 
works.

James McKenzie

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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Tim
Tim:
>> Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
>> things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.

Daniel B. Thurman:
> Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent.  I do get
> page up/down but if you "flip" the wheel up or down quickly (fast
> scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying.

Is it a mouse with extra buttons on the side?  Perhaps one's become
extremely sensitive to touch.

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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 12/28/2010 09:36 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 12/28/2010 09:23 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>> On 12/28/2010 01:26 AM, Tim wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:39 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have
 trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to
 scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes
 to the previous or next page.  Does anyone have
 this problem?
>>> Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
>>> things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.
>> Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent.  I do get
>> page up/down but if you "flip" the wheel up or down quickly (fast
>> scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying.  I cannot rely
>> on the as of the last FF or something updated recently that affected
>> the thumb-wheel behaviour.  I cannot put my finger on what the
>> problem is... (pun intended)
>>
> Uh oh...
>
> I guess it is not application specific...  in fact, I get this strange
> behaviour
> even with other applications that support panes and scrollbars.
>
> If using Thunderbird, I notice that when I have an opened  email message,
> moving the mouse over to the "All Folders" pane on the left column,
> scrolling
> down to the bottom of the list (has a scrollbar) and keep scrolling fast
> (even
> when there is no more to scroll), changes the focus from the "All
> Folders" pane
> the opened email message pane sometimes back.  It seems as if the mouse
> driver is getting mixed events somehow.
>
> How do I debug/resolve this sort of issue
Ok, I get it.  It seems to be restricted to Mozilla apps, that is,
Firefox and Thunderbird.  I tried other applications (Nautilus,
Python, GTK, Qt)) to see if I get the same thumb-wheel anomalies
and I am not.  Hope this narrows down the problem...

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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 12/28/2010 09:23 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 12/28/2010 01:26 AM, Tim wrote:
>> On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:39 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>> I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have
>>> trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to
>>> scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes
>>> to the previous or next page.  Does anyone have
>>> this problem?
>> Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
>> things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.
> Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent.  I do get
> page up/down but if you "flip" the wheel up or down quickly (fast
> scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying.  I cannot rely
> on the as of the last FF or something updated recently that affected
> the thumb-wheel behaviour.  I cannot put my finger on what the
> problem is... (pun intended)
>
Uh oh...

I guess it is not application specific...  in fact, I get this strange
behaviour
even with other applications that support panes and scrollbars.

If using Thunderbird, I notice that when I have an opened  email message,
moving the mouse over to the "All Folders" pane on the left column,
scrolling
down to the bottom of the list (has a scrollbar) and keep scrolling fast
(even
when there is no more to scroll), changes the focus from the "All
Folders" pane
the opened email message pane sometimes back.  It seems as if the mouse
driver is getting mixed events somehow.

How do I debug/resolve this sort of issue?


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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 12/28/2010 01:26 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:39 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>> I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have
>> trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to
>> scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes
>> to the previous or next page.  Does anyone have
>> this problem?
> Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
> things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.
Well, it is not a static issue, the problem is intermittent.  I do get
page up/down but if you "flip" the wheel up or down quickly (fast
scroll), then the page jumps - it is very annoying.  I cannot rely
on the as of the last FF or something updated recently that affected
the thumb-wheel behaviour.  I cannot put my finger on what the
problem is... (pun intended)

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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 21:29 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:39:30 -0800
> "Daniel B. Thurman"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have
> > trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to
> > scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes
> > to the previous or next page.  Does anyone have
> > this problem?
> > 
> 
> I thought the thumb buttons were meant for that? At least that is how I
> have used it for the last few years. Even other apps like Thunar, Google
> Chrome also follow this convention.
> 
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On my machine ( now F14), it scrolls the window up and down. I think it
was the same in F13 but yesterday I upgraded my last F13 machine so I
can't check.
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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-28 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 20:39 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have
> trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to
> scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes
> to the previous or next page.  Does anyone have
> this problem?

Do you have a shift key stuck down?  The mouse wheel can do different
things with the browser, depending on the keyboard modifiers.

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Re: F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-27 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:39:30 -0800
"Daniel B. Thurman"  wrote:

> 
> I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have
> trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to
> scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes
> to the previous or next page.  Does anyone have
> this problem?
> 

I thought the thumb buttons were meant for that? At least that is how I
have used it for the last few years. Even other apps like Thunar, Google
Chrome also follow this convention.

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F13: Firefox 3.6.13 seems flaky with thumb wheel?

2010-12-27 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

I noticed that F13, Firefox v3.6.13 seems to have
trouble with the thumb-wheel as it is supposed to
scroll the page up or down, but instead, changes
to the previous or next page.  Does anyone have
this problem?

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