Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
Am 22.10.2013 20:00, schrieb Dan Thurman: I at one time installed bind with chroot but decided to remove the bind-chroot package but it did not clean up and remove chroot mounts so I manually removed the chroot mounts, reconfgured bind, restarted named, with no apparent errors. But now, dovecot complains in maillog, the following errors: dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.rfc1912.zones is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/usr/lib/bind is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.iscdlv.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/var/named is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints I tried some of the examples pointed out in wiki2 but I am unable to remove the warnings... What do I need to do? seems the Fedora dovecot is broken because these are no mountpoints at all anyways, removed them and tell dovecot to ignore the complete tree http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/named.rfc1912.zones doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/usr/lib/bind doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/var/named and *finally* doveadm mount add '/var/named/*' ignore signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
Am 23.10.2013 17:28, schrieb Dan Thurman: Why not ask dovecot.org? because Timo was asked often enough the remove this stupid behavior as default I read their site and it appears that dovecot supports clustered filesytems, *dsync, and a myriad of different things. Then I found this: * http://blog.dovecot.org/2012/02/dovecot-clustering-with-dsync-based.html (Could replication/clustering/dsync have something to do with detecting disk changes?) even if - you have the same behavior while dovecot is running as proxy only Since I mentioned that I installed bind-chroot, installed dovecot, then uninstalled bind-chroot, perhaps triggering dovecot to notice a disk change (dsync) and thus generated bind-chroot mountpoint warnings, repeatedly? I do recall that when I installed bind-root, dovecot did not complain and I had this running for a week or so. The dovecot warning came after I removed bind-root yes because it complains *always* if any mountpoint got removed no user-space application on this planet needs to scan mountpoints at least not as default behavior in any setup signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 11:00 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: dovecot complains in maillog, the following errors: dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints I notice you've resolved this, but I find the information Dovecot provides on that link, Dovecot wants to keep track of mountpoints that might contain emails, to be quite disturbing. I don't think a mail program should be behaving like that, at all. Imagine the mess we'd be in all sorts of programs started ploughing through the directory tree, without being told to, just because they thought it was a good idea. Since Fedora likes to put removeable media into /var/run/username/media you might encounter that problem again, unless you put /var/run into its ignore database. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:30:19 +1030 Tim wrote: Since Fedora likes to put removeable media into /var/run/username/media you might encounter that problem again, unless you put /var/run into its ignore database. It is worse than that. It apparently doesn't store the ignored info anywhere, because if a mountpoint appears again then disappears again, it will warn you again no matter what you might have told it previously. This appears to be another case of butt-headed developers since lots of users have asked for a way to eradicate this feature but the requests are always rejected as user is wrong. I think I put in a syslog rule to just filter out all the messages since there is no practical way to make them stop. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
Uiteraard! - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Tom Horsley [mailto:horsley1...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:15 PM W. Europe Standard Time Aan: users@lists.fedoraproject.org users@lists.fedoraproject.org Onderwerp: Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix? On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:30:19 +1030 Tim wrote: Since Fedora likes to put removeable media into /var/run/username/media you might encounter that problem again, unless you put /var/run into its ignore database. It is worse than that. It apparently doesn't store the ignored info anywhere, because if a mountpoint appears again then disappears again, it will warn you again no matter what you might have told it previously. This appears to be another case of butt-headed developers since lots of users have asked for a way to eradicate this feature but the requests are always rejected as user is wrong. I think I put in a syslog rule to just filter out all the messages since there is no practical way to make them stop. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org __ Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
Tim: Since Fedora likes to put removeable media into /var/run/username/media you might encounter that problem again, unless you put /var/run into its ignore database. Tom Horsley: It is worse than that. It apparently doesn't store the ignored info anywhere, because if a mountpoint appears again then disappears again, it will warn you again no matter what you might have told it previously. This appears to be another case of butt-headed developers since lots of users have asked for a way to eradicate this feature but the requests are always rejected as user is wrong. Gawd, what were they thinking?! And I wonder what their response will be to a blunt, no, YOU, are wrong? Why should an email server program go looking for places that you might have mail? Surely where mail is stored is something that the admin person ought to be configuring. If it were an occasional removable drive change, then I could possibly live with just ensuring that a start script was used somewhere to add in the parameters. But I'll just have to make sure than either the next server I set up doesn't get things plugging into it (though I suppose inserting a DVD-ROM into a drive is going to send it bananas, too), or I use another IMAP server program. Well done Dovecot programmers, what a fucking stupid thing to do. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
On 10/22/2013 11:00 PM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 11:00 -0700, Dan Thurman wrote: dovecot complains in maillog, the following errors: dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints I notice you've resolved this, but I find the information Dovecot provides on that link, Dovecot wants to keep track of mountpoints that might contain emails, to be quite disturbing. I don't think a mail program should be behaving like that, at all. Imagine the mess we'd be in all sorts of programs started ploughing through the directory tree, without being told to, just because they thought it was a good idea. Since Fedora likes to put removeable media into /var/run/username/media you might encounter that problem again, unless you put /var/run into its ignore database. (and sub-thread replies to Tim) After dovecot restarts and a reboot, (lazarus's) bind-chroot mountpoints warnings has not risen from the grave. ;) Do you think the dovecot programmers read Fedora Community mailing list? I don't think so, but I could be wrong... Why not ask dovecot.org? I read their site and it appears that dovecot supports clustered filesytems, *dsync, and a myriad of different things. Then I found this: * http://blog.dovecot.org/2012/02/dovecot-clustering-with-dsync-based.html (Could replication/clustering/dsync have something to do with detecting disk changes?) Since I mentioned that I installed bind-chroot, installed dovecot, then uninstalled bind-chroot, perhaps triggering dovecot to notice a disk change (dsync) and thus generated bind-chroot mountpoint warnings, repeatedly? I do recall that when I installed bind-root, dovecot did not complain and I had this running for a week or so. The dovecot warning came after I removed bind-root. Just something to consider... Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix?
I at one time installed bind with chroot but decided to remove the bind-chroot package but it did not clean up and remove chroot mounts so I manually removed the chroot mounts, reconfgured bind, restarted named, with no apparent errors. But now, dovecot complains in maillog, the following errors: dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.rfc1912.zones is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/usr/lib/bind is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.iscdlv.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/var/named is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints I tried some of the examples pointed out in wiki2 but I am unable to remove the warnings... What do I need to do? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F18: Bind-chroot Dovecot mount errors, how to fix? [SOLVED]
On 10/22/2013 11:00 AM, Dan Thurman wrote: I at one time installed bind with chroot but decided to remove the bind-chroot package but it did not clean up and remove chroot mounts so I manually removed the chroot mounts, reconfgured bind, restarted named, with no apparent errors. But now, dovecot complains in maillog, the following errors: dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.rfc1912.zones is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/usr/lib/bind is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/etc/named.iscdlv.key is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints dovecot: master: Warning: /var/named/chroot/var/named is no longer mounted. See http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Mountpoints I tried some of the examples pointed out in wiki2 but I am unable to remove the warnings... What do I need to do? I think I solved it... was wiki2 says: As root: # doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/named.root.key # doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/named.conf # doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/named.rfc1912.zones # doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/rndc.key # doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/usr/lib/bind # doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/etc/named.iscdlv.key # doveadm mount remove /var/named/chroot/var/named -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
