Re: F21 - Huge icons [SOLVED]

2015-01-01 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 03:41:04PM -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote:
 Icons are taking over the World!  In Fedora 21, that is.
 I've always been afraid that the GUI generation would eventually
 make Linux completely unusable, and now they've almost succeeded.  :-)
 
 In a few F21 GUI panels the icons are grotesquely large - 1.75 inches
 square on a 15 inch wide monitor.  Normal size would be ~0.25 in.
 This makes the panel nearly incomprehensible.  This occurs in, eg,
 system-config-printer
 system-config-firewall
 virt-manager
 
 A screenshot is attached of virt-manager running an instance of Centos
 7 on the Fedora 21 host. 
   [No, it's not!  GUI's are OK; images of them are too big for this
   list.  Sigh...]
 The virt-manager icons are so big that that
 the virtual window cannot be enlarged to a proper size.
 
 A possible clue to the error are the messages in the root window
 following the virt-manager command:
   [root@datwiz ~]
   # virt-manager 
   [root@datwiz ~]
   # 
   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
   gtk.css:67:18: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
 
   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
   gtk.css:67:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
 

I have tracked the problem to left-over configuration files as a
consequence of my usual practice of freshly installing a new Fedora
in alternating root partitions, but retaining the /home partition
unchanged.  
The problem was due in some mysterious way to the contents of
~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/
because, when I deleted that directory and restarted Xfce, the icons
returned to normal size.  (The directory and contents were recreated.)

That's pretty obscure, hence this report.

Acting on a suggestion from my son, Stuart, to try another user,
I found that a new user account did not have the huge-icon problem.
That led to an exploration of the countless . files in my home
directory.  What a mess!  Hidden files are an abomination.
It seems that programmers create them willy-nilly but never, ever
remove them.  The amount of disk space that's wasted is incredible.

But that's a problem for another day.
Happy New Year, all.

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Re: F21 - Huge icons

2014-12-31 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 29 December 2014 at 22:41, David A. De Graaf d...@datix.us wrote:
 Icons are taking over the World!  In Fedora 21, that is.
 I've always been afraid that the GUI generation would eventually
 make Linux completely unusable, and now they've almost succeeded.  :-)

 In a few F21 GUI panels the icons are grotesquely large - 1.75 inches
 square on a 15 inch wide monitor.  Normal size would be ~0.25 in.
 This makes the panel nearly incomprehensible.  This occurs in, eg,
 system-config-printer
 system-config-firewall
 virt-manager

 A screenshot is attached of virt-manager running an instance of Centos
 7 on the Fedora 21 host.
   [No, it's not!  GUI's are OK; images of them are too big for this
   list.  Sigh...]
 The virt-manager icons are so big that that
 the virtual window cannot be enlarged to a proper size.

 A possible clue to the error are the messages in the root window
 following the virt-manager command:
   [root@datwiz ~]
   # virt-manager
   [root@datwiz ~]
   #
   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
   gtk.css:67:18: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.

   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
   gtk.css:67:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.

 Similar messages appear when system-config-printer is invoked.
 Unfortunately these mean nothing to me.

 FWIW, I installed F20 using the wonderful Live Xfce4 images ( thank you
 Kevin Fenzi ), and have completely avoided the dreaded Gnome.  I've
 enabled multi-user.target so that neither lightdm nor gdm can destroy
 my env variables.

 My questions to you all:
 Does anyone see these huge icons in the example programs?

That could be a problem with the HiDPI stuff in GNOME, i.e. it's
detecting your monitor wrongly.

This command, run as user, should set the window scaling factor to 1:
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 1

or use dconf-editor or gnome-tweak-tool - Windows - Window scaling.

 Can anyone guess the problem with the Theme?

I don't think the warning you got about the theme is the cause of the
problem you're hitting.

 Am I the only one with the problem?   On three machines, so far?


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Re: F21 - Huge icons

2014-12-30 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 03:41:04PM -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote:
 
 In a few F21 GUI panels the icons are grotesquely large - 1.75 inches
 square on a 15 inch wide monitor.  Normal size would be ~0.25 in.
 This makes the panel nearly incomprehensible.  This occurs in, eg,
 system-config-printer
 system-config-firewall
 virt-manager
 
 A screenshot is attached of virt-manager running an instance of Centos
 7 on the Fedora 21 host. 
   [No, it's not!  GUI's are OK; images of them are too big for this
   list.  Sigh...]
 The virt-manager icons are so big that that
 the virtual window cannot be enlarged to a proper size.
 
 A possible clue to the error are the messages in the root window
 following the virt-manager command:
   [root@datwiz ~]
   # virt-manager 
   [root@datwiz ~]
   # 
   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
   gtk.css:67:18: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
 
   (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
   gtk.css:67:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.
 
 Similar messages appear when system-config-printer is invoked.
 Unfortunately these mean nothing to me.

More data:
On an i386 laptop when I run system-config-printer I get this:
  # system-config-printer
  *** BUG ***
  In pixman_region32_init_rect: Invalid rectangle passed
  Set a breakpoint on '_pixman_log_error' to debug

I'm guessing that this means to run gdb, set a breakpoint, and then
run the program.  However, the program is a shell script which runs
a python script, /usr/share/system-config-printer/system-config-printer.py,
but gdb is useful only on compiled programs, not on these scripts,
even if I knew how to use it.

I've run 'strace system-config-printer' which produces prodigious
output, but no enlightenment, only this same info:
  write(2, *** BUG ***\nIn pixman_region32_i..., 117*** BUG ***
  In pixman_region32_init_rect: Invalid rectangle passed
  Set a breakpoint on '_pixman_log_error' to debug
with nothing preceding it that suggests the cause of this error (to
me).

A similar F21 install on an old AMD Athlon i386 system works
differently.  The icons in s-c-p are sized normally.
I've searched for differences that might account for this without
success.

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F21 - Huge icons

2014-12-29 Thread David A. De Graaf
Icons are taking over the World!  In Fedora 21, that is.
I've always been afraid that the GUI generation would eventually
make Linux completely unusable, and now they've almost succeeded.  :-)

In a few F21 GUI panels the icons are grotesquely large - 1.75 inches
square on a 15 inch wide monitor.  Normal size would be ~0.25 in.
This makes the panel nearly incomprehensible.  This occurs in, eg,
system-config-printer
system-config-firewall
virt-manager

A screenshot is attached of virt-manager running an instance of Centos
7 on the Fedora 21 host. 
  [No, it's not!  GUI's are OK; images of them are too big for this
  list.  Sigh...]
The virt-manager icons are so big that that
the virtual window cannot be enlarged to a proper size.

A possible clue to the error are the messages in the root window
following the virt-manager command:
  [root@datwiz ~]
  # virt-manager 
  [root@datwiz ~]
  # 
  (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
  gtk.css:67:18: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.

  (virt-manager:1994): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:
  gtk.css:67:20: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'.

Similar messages appear when system-config-printer is invoked.
Unfortunately these mean nothing to me.

FWIW, I installed F20 using the wonderful Live Xfce4 images ( thank you
Kevin Fenzi ), and have completely avoided the dreaded Gnome.  I've
enabled multi-user.target so that neither lightdm nor gdm can destroy
my env variables.

My questions to you all:
Does anyone see these huge icons in the example programs?
Can anyone guess the problem with the Theme?
Am I the only one with the problem?   On three machines, so far?

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