Re: FC14 install memory requirements
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:23:00 -0800, Patrick Bartekbartek...@yahoo.com wrote: If all this fails, you may try creating your own spin of F14 using revisor. Write not there is an issue with revisor, so you'd want to use pungi. s/want to/need to/ ;-) -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
On 11/16/2010 01:01 AM, Hiisi wrote: ma, 2010-11-15 kello 21:28 -0500, Robert Moskowitz kirjoitti: I have a Asus EE 700 with 512 Mb memory. FC12 meminfo reports ~490Mb usable memory as I suspect Video is stealing some memory. Anyway, FC14 install reports that there is NOT enough memory for a graphical install. To add insult to injury it did not even install gnome. It comes up in text mode and startx is not a known command. This seems rather extreme? I put FC12 back on the system (how I got the memory info), and will try a FC13 install tomorrow. But are now older 512Mb memory systems locked out of FC14? According to the docs you should be able to install F14 in graphical mode on this computer: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_14.html#sect-Release_Notes-Hardware_Overview In anyway, if anaconda refuses to install X-server you're still able to install it 'by hand' after system installation completes. Is there some option to force graphical on the install since it states that 384 is enough for the GI? Disk Druid LVM editing is only available via the GI, not the text install. As it is, I add the askmethod option to the install to point the install to my local repo. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
Robert Moskowitz rgm at htt-consult.com writes: ... Is there some option to force graphical on the install since it states that 384 is enough for the GI? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Options JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I have a Asus EE 700 with 512 Mb memory. FC12 meminfo reports ~490Mb usable memory as I suspect Video is stealing some memory. Anyway, FC14 install reports that there is NOT enough memory for a graphical install. To add insult to injury it did not even install gnome. It comes up in text mode and startx is not a known command. This seems rather extreme? I put FC12 back on the system (how I got the memory info), and will try a FC13 install tomorrow. But are now older 512Mb memory systems locked out of FC14? I've had some experience putting contemporary Linux distros on marginal systems. The secret is to do a text-based install. That way what little RAM you have is not eaten up by the graphic installer sometimes causing the install to fail. If that doesn't work, then do a mininal base install (text-mode, of course) with only enough to get the system to boot to a terminal with the tools to install, piece by piece, the rest of what you want. I employed the latter technique a few years ago to install Debian Etch with XFCE on a Thinkpad 240X with 192MB RAM (its maximum) when the minimum recommended by Debian was 256, IIRC. It runs just fine. If all this fails, you may try creating your own spin of F14 using revisor. It's in the F12 repo and probably in F14 as well. I've never tried it, but came across it while researching the optimum distro to install on a EeePC 900 (512MB RAM) a few months ago. I first considered F12, since that was what I currently had installed as my primary desktop, but finally chose Eeebuntu 3.0 with GNOME, the default. It installed easily and ran just fine, but RAM was tight using about half just to boot. It hit the swap, too, but very lightly and performance remained more than satisfactory. Even so, I chose to upgrade to 1GB. Now, it never hits the swap, at least, not that I've seen. Maybe, Eeebuntu would be a suitable alternative. It was no problem to install and configure. I didn't have to search for drivers or anything. Everything was included. Everything worked out-of-the-box. Wireless, too. B -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:23:00 -0800, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: If all this fails, you may try creating your own spin of F14 using revisor. Write not there is an issue with revisor, so you'd want to use pungi. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 16:05:59 -0600, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:23:00 -0800, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: If all this fails, you may try creating your own spin of F14 using revisor. Write not there is an issue with revisor, so you'd want to use pungi. I seem to be dyslexic today. Right now there is an issue with revisor. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
FC14 install memory requirements
I have a Asus EE 700 with 512 Mb memory. FC12 meminfo reports ~490Mb usable memory as I suspect Video is stealing some memory. Anyway, FC14 install reports that there is NOT enough memory for a graphical install. To add insult to injury it did not even install gnome. It comes up in text mode and startx is not a known command. This seems rather extreme? I put FC12 back on the system (how I got the memory info), and will try a FC13 install tomorrow. But are now older 512Mb memory systems locked out of FC14? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
On 11/16/2010 10:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have a Asus EE 700 with 512 Mb memory. FC12 meminfo reports ~490Mb usable memory as I suspect Video is stealing some memory. Anyway, FC14 install reports that there is NOT enough memory for a graphical install. To add insult to injury it did not even install gnome. It comes up in text mode and startx is not a known command. This seems rather extreme? I put FC12 back on the system (how I got the memory info), and will try a FC13 install tomorrow. But are now older 512Mb memory systems locked out of FC14? I've not tried installing F-Anything with memory less than 1GB. But, just because it gets installed without Gnome, doesn't mean you can't add it afterward. I suspect the install is trying to protect folks from a suboptimal experience with Fedora and hopefully reduce the number of Fedora Sucks, it is slow complaints. :-) -- Saliva causes cancer, but only if swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time. -- George Carlin 葛斯克 愛德華 / 台北市八德路四段 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
On 11/15/2010 06:28 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Anyway, FC14 install reports that there is NOT enough memory for a graphical install. To add insult to injury it did not even install gnome. It comes up in text mode and startx is not a known command. That's correct. If anaconda can't do a graphical install it doesn't install X or anything that needs it. I'm sure the devs had what they consider Good Reasons for doing it that way, but I've never heard of them explaining. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FC14 install memory requirements
ma, 2010-11-15 kello 21:28 -0500, Robert Moskowitz kirjoitti: I have a Asus EE 700 with 512 Mb memory. FC12 meminfo reports ~490Mb usable memory as I suspect Video is stealing some memory. Anyway, FC14 install reports that there is NOT enough memory for a graphical install. To add insult to injury it did not even install gnome. It comes up in text mode and startx is not a known command. This seems rather extreme? I put FC12 back on the system (how I got the memory info), and will try a FC13 install tomorrow. But are now older 512Mb memory systems locked out of FC14? According to the docs you should be able to install F14 in graphical mode on this computer: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Welcome_to_Fedora_14.html#sect-Release_Notes-Hardware_Overview In anyway, if anaconda refuses to install X-server you're still able to install it 'by hand' after system installation completes. HTH -- Turn right here. No! NO! The OTHER right! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
