Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-12 Thread Tod Merley
time to make friends with journalctl -
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journalctl.html

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems -- the Xorg log
file may have a clue.

probably enough to get you started.

Frankly I spend most of my time simply using Ubuntu so debugging a current
Fedora has less familiarity.  If the ctl-alt-F1 (in Ubuntu F1 to F6 yield
individual virtual consoles (tty based terminal screens) where F7 gets you
back to the normal X graphical display if it is up).  See if you can access
a virtual console during a hang.

this is from the INSTALLATION guide -
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/sn-guimode-virtual-consoles-x86.html


On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:10 PM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 11.02.2015 19:43, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 ...
  If you have problemos with nVidia
  http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/
 ...
  Ok, it's doing the same thing with the nouveau driver. Could it be
  something else? What should I look for in the logs, and which logs?
 
  Thanks


 Good luck.

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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-12 Thread poma
On 12.02.2015 15:03, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

 The least you could do is give me another Italian dish to google :-)

It is not that difficult, if you do not have two left. ;)


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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-12 Thread linuxnutster
Thanks. I had consulted Xorg, but saw nothing awry in there. journalctl 
will now be my next step..



On 02/12/2015 06:09 AM, Tod Merley wrote:

time to make friends with journalctl -
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journalctl.html

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems -- the Xorg log
file may have a clue.

probably enough to get you started.

Frankly I spend most of my time simply using Ubuntu so debugging a
current Fedora has less familiarity.  If the ctl-alt-F1 (in Ubuntu F1 to
F6 yield individual virtual consoles (tty based terminal screens) where
F7 gets you back to the normal X graphical display if it is up).  See if
you can access a virtual console during a hang.

this is from the INSTALLATION guide -
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/sn-guimode-virtual-consoles-x86.html


On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:10 PM, poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com
mailto:pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:

On 11.02.2015 19:43, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca
mailto:linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
...
 If you have problemos with nVidia
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/
...
 Ok, it's doing the same thing with the nouveau driver. Could it be
 something else? What should I look for in the logs, and which logs?

 Thanks


Good luck.

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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-12 Thread linuxnutster

On 02/11/2015 09:10 PM, poma wrote:

On 11.02.2015 19:43, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
...

If you have problemos with nVidia
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/

...

Ok, it's doing the same thing with the nouveau driver. Could it be
something else? What should I look for in the logs, and which logs?

Thanks



Good luck.



The least you could do is give me another Italian dish to google :-)


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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-11 Thread linuxnutster

On 02/05/2015 08:21 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

On 02/05/2015 01:49 AM, poma wrote:

On 04.02.2015 20:49, linuxnutster wrote:


On 02/04/2015 02:19 PM, poma wrote:

On 04.02.2015 13:18, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

Hello,

Subsequent to a fedup from FC20 to FC21, I've been having bootup
issues
which I believe are VGA driver related. Every now and then I start my
computer and it boots up to a blank screen and hangs. When I move the
mouse, an X-shaped cursor appears. The latter does move with the
mouse.
Once I hit reset, it boots up normally each time.

My vga card is an nvidia Geforce 210 ( Asus en210 ) 1GB. I started off
by manually installing the nvidia proprietary, with no change, and
then
moved to akmod-nvidia-304xx. The issue remained. I am now using the
akmod-nvidia-340xx and still have the same problem. It seems to me
I had
this problem for a little while under FC20 when it was released.

Please note, I am not an expert. I tend to be an install it and
use it
type of user. I'm looking for input on how to troubleshoot this
issue -
logs, etc... also...am I the only one experiencing this?


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/

I am also install it and use it type of user. :)
Are not we all?



Not precisely. You are more akin to the expert category I mentioned.
I've seen your posts :-) So, basically, reverting back to the nouveau
driver will mean less annoying issues



I am more akin to the pasta al burro e parmigiano. ;)

If you have problemos with nVidia
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/

Or go the path of least resistance, you decide for yourself.




It's early morning here and I googled pasta al burro e parmigiano on
an empty stomach. :-)

I'm running the nouveau driver and the refresh rate isn't quite the
same. The path of least resistance may end up being a switch from Nvidia
to ATI...

Thanks for the advice...




Ok, it's doing the same thing with the nouveau driver. Could it be 
something else? What should I look for in the logs, and which logs?


Thanks


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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-11 Thread poma
On 11.02.2015 19:43, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
...
 If you have problemos with nVidia
 http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/
...
 Ok, it's doing the same thing with the nouveau driver. Could it be 
 something else? What should I look for in the logs, and which logs?
 
 Thanks


Good luck.

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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-05 Thread linuxnutster

On 02/05/2015 01:49 AM, poma wrote:

On 04.02.2015 20:49, linuxnutster wrote:


On 02/04/2015 02:19 PM, poma wrote:

On 04.02.2015 13:18, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

Hello,

Subsequent to a fedup from FC20 to FC21, I've been having bootup issues
which I believe are VGA driver related. Every now and then I start my
computer and it boots up to a blank screen and hangs. When I move the
mouse, an X-shaped cursor appears. The latter does move with the mouse.
Once I hit reset, it boots up normally each time.

My vga card is an nvidia Geforce 210 ( Asus en210 ) 1GB. I started off
by manually installing the nvidia proprietary, with no change, and then
moved to akmod-nvidia-304xx. The issue remained. I am now using the
akmod-nvidia-340xx and still have the same problem. It seems to me I had
this problem for a little while under FC20 when it was released.

Please note, I am not an expert. I tend to be an install it and use it
type of user. I'm looking for input on how to troubleshoot this issue -
logs, etc... also...am I the only one experiencing this?


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/

I am also install it and use it type of user. :)
Are not we all?



Not precisely. You are more akin to the expert category I mentioned.
I've seen your posts :-) So, basically, reverting back to the nouveau
driver will mean less annoying issues



I am more akin to the pasta al burro e parmigiano. ;)

If you have problemos with nVidia
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/

Or go the path of least resistance, you decide for yourself.




It's early morning here and I googled pasta al burro e parmigiano on 
an empty stomach. :-)


I'm running the nouveau driver and the refresh rate isn't quite the 
same. The path of least resistance may end up being a switch from Nvidia 
to ATI...


Thanks for the advice...


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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-05 Thread poma
On 05.02.2015 14:21, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 On 02/05/2015 01:49 AM, poma wrote:
 On 04.02.2015 20:49, linuxnutster wrote:

 On 02/04/2015 02:19 PM, poma wrote:
 On 04.02.2015 13:18, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Hello,

 Subsequent to a fedup from FC20 to FC21, I've been having bootup issues
 which I believe are VGA driver related. Every now and then I start my
 computer and it boots up to a blank screen and hangs. When I move the
 mouse, an X-shaped cursor appears. The latter does move with the mouse.
 Once I hit reset, it boots up normally each time.

 My vga card is an nvidia Geforce 210 ( Asus en210 ) 1GB. I started off
 by manually installing the nvidia proprietary, with no change, and then
 moved to akmod-nvidia-304xx. The issue remained. I am now using the
 akmod-nvidia-340xx and still have the same problem. It seems to me I had
 this problem for a little while under FC20 when it was released.

 Please note, I am not an expert. I tend to be an install it and use it
 type of user. I'm looking for input on how to troubleshoot this issue -
 logs, etc... also...am I the only one experiencing this?

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers
 https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/

 I am also install it and use it type of user. :)
 Are not we all?


 Not precisely. You are more akin to the expert category I mentioned.
 I've seen your posts :-) So, basically, reverting back to the nouveau
 driver will mean less annoying issues


 I am more akin to the pasta al burro e parmigiano. ;)

 If you have problemos with nVidia
 http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/

 Or go the path of least resistance, you decide for yourself.


 
 It's early morning here and I googled pasta al burro e parmigiano on 
 an empty stomach. :-)
 
 I'm running the nouveau driver and the refresh rate isn't quite the 
 same. The path of least resistance may end up being a switch from Nvidia 
 to ATI...
 
 Thanks for the advice...
 
 

AMD is not without problemos.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__component=Driver%2FRadeonorder=changeddate%20DESC%2Cproduct=xorgquery_based_on=query_format=specific


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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-04 Thread linuxnutster


On 02/04/2015 02:19 PM, poma wrote:

On 04.02.2015 13:18, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

Hello,

Subsequent to a fedup from FC20 to FC21, I've been having bootup issues
which I believe are VGA driver related. Every now and then I start my
computer and it boots up to a blank screen and hangs. When I move the
mouse, an X-shaped cursor appears. The latter does move with the mouse.
Once I hit reset, it boots up normally each time.

My vga card is an nvidia Geforce 210 ( Asus en210 ) 1GB. I started off
by manually installing the nvidia proprietary, with no change, and then
moved to akmod-nvidia-304xx. The issue remained. I am now using the
akmod-nvidia-340xx and still have the same problem. It seems to me I had
this problem for a little while under FC20 when it was released.

Please note, I am not an expert. I tend to be an install it and use it
type of user. I'm looking for input on how to troubleshoot this issue -
logs, etc... also...am I the only one experiencing this?


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/

I am also install it and use it type of user. :)
Are not we all?


Not precisely. You are more akin to the expert category I mentioned. 
I've seen your posts :-) So, basically, reverting back to the nouveau 
driver will mean less annoying issues

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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-04 Thread poma
On 04.02.2015 13:18, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Subsequent to a fedup from FC20 to FC21, I've been having bootup issues 
 which I believe are VGA driver related. Every now and then I start my 
 computer and it boots up to a blank screen and hangs. When I move the 
 mouse, an X-shaped cursor appears. The latter does move with the mouse. 
 Once I hit reset, it boots up normally each time.
 
 My vga card is an nvidia Geforce 210 ( Asus en210 ) 1GB. I started off 
 by manually installing the nvidia proprietary, with no change, and then 
 moved to akmod-nvidia-304xx. The issue remained. I am now using the 
 akmod-nvidia-340xx and still have the same problem. It seems to me I had 
 this problem for a little while under FC20 when it was released.
 
 Please note, I am not an expert. I tend to be an install it and use it 
 type of user. I'm looking for input on how to troubleshoot this issue - 
 logs, etc... also...am I the only one experiencing this?
 

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers
https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/

I am also install it and use it type of user. :)
Are not we all?


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Re: FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-04 Thread poma
On 04.02.2015 20:49, linuxnutster wrote:
 
 On 02/04/2015 02:19 PM, poma wrote:
 On 04.02.2015 13:18, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Hello,

 Subsequent to a fedup from FC20 to FC21, I've been having bootup issues
 which I believe are VGA driver related. Every now and then I start my
 computer and it boots up to a blank screen and hangs. When I move the
 mouse, an X-shaped cursor appears. The latter does move with the mouse.
 Once I hit reset, it boots up normally each time.

 My vga card is an nvidia Geforce 210 ( Asus en210 ) 1GB. I started off
 by manually installing the nvidia proprietary, with no change, and then
 moved to akmod-nvidia-304xx. The issue remained. I am now using the
 akmod-nvidia-340xx and still have the same problem. It seems to me I had
 this problem for a little while under FC20 when it was released.

 Please note, I am not an expert. I tend to be an install it and use it
 type of user. I'm looking for input on how to troubleshoot this issue -
 logs, etc... also...am I the only one experiencing this?

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers
 https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/

 I am also install it and use it type of user. :)
 Are not we all?


 Not precisely. You are more akin to the expert category I mentioned. 
 I've seen your posts :-) So, basically, reverting back to the nouveau 
 driver will mean less annoying issues
 

I am more akin to the pasta al burro e parmigiano. ;)

If you have problemos with nVidia
http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Bugs/

Or go the path of least resistance, you decide for yourself.


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FC21 intermittently booting up to black/blank screen

2015-02-04 Thread linuxnutster

Hello,

Subsequent to a fedup from FC20 to FC21, I've been having bootup issues 
which I believe are VGA driver related. Every now and then I start my 
computer and it boots up to a blank screen and hangs. When I move the 
mouse, an X-shaped cursor appears. The latter does move with the mouse. 
Once I hit reset, it boots up normally each time.


My vga card is an nvidia Geforce 210 ( Asus en210 ) 1GB. I started off 
by manually installing the nvidia proprietary, with no change, and then 
moved to akmod-nvidia-304xx. The issue remained. I am now using the 
akmod-nvidia-340xx and still have the same problem. It seems to me I had 
this problem for a little while under FC20 when it was released.


Please note, I am not an expert. I tend to be an install it and use it 
type of user. I'm looking for input on how to troubleshoot this issue - 
logs, etc... also...am I the only one experiencing this?

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