Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 11:02 +1000, david walcroft wrote: 
> On 01/13/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> >> No I used 'david', not root user.
> >
> > Well, that is your problem.  A normal user isn't generally permitted to
> > make system wide configuration changes.
> >
> Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges. 
> I'm just a below average user.
> 
> Thanks  david
> 

You get a login dialog. Just login as root.
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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 10:29 +1000, david walcroft wrote: 
> On 01/13/2012 10:17 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> > On 01/13/2012 10:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> On 01/13/2012 07:58 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> >>> bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found
> >>> [david@reddwarf ~]$
> >>>
> >>> Thanks david
> >>
> >> Sorry to confuse you with my use of ""
> >>
> >> Here is the actual example
> >>
> >> [egreshko@meimei init.d]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service
> >>
> >> cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
> >> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
> >> Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:40:11
> >> +0800; 1 day and 15h ago
> >> Main PID: 2328 (cupsd)
> >> CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
> >> ââ€â€ 2328 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Thanks Ed,
> >
> > [david@reddwarf ~]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service
> > cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
> > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
> > Active: active (running) since Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:59:45 +1000; 14min ago
> > Main PID: 9197 (cupsd)
> > CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
> > â”” 9197 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
> > [david@reddwarf ~]$
> >
> > I can only print to file at the moment.
> >
> > david
> >
> 
> I now find I can log onto 'http://localhost:631/admin' but to add 
> printers errors to 'forbidden'
> 
> david

Doesn't it allow you to login as root to add printers?
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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 09:58 +1000, david walcroft wrote: 
> On 01/13/2012 09:47 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 01/13/2012 07:38 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> >> On 01/13/2012 09:32 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> >>> I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print
> >>> so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it
> >>> installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install.
> >>> I get this error on using systemctl.
> >>>
> >>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c '/sbin/systemctl start cups.service'
> >>> Password:
> >>> bash: /sbin/systemctl: No such file or directory
> >>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c systemctl start cups.service
> >>> su: user start does not exist
> >>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c 'cupsctl LogLevel=debug2'
> >>> Password:
> >>> cupsctl: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
> >>> [david@reddwarf ~]$
> >>>
> >>> I also tried to enter Cups admin via "http://localhost:631/admin"; but
> >>> received a 'cannot connect to server' error.
> >>>
> >>> I tried -
> >>>
> >>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ service cups restart
> >>> Redirecting to /bin/systemctl restart cups.service
> >>> Failed to issue method call: Access denied
> >>>
> >>> I also tried 'system config printer' but only had a 'start server'
> >>> button
> >>>
> >>> Thanks david
> >>
> >> I have just tried :-
> >>
> >> [david@reddwarf ~]$ wget http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
> >> --2012-01-13 09:35:54--  http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
> >> Resolving localhost... ::1, 127.0.0.1
> >> Connecting to localhost|::1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
> >> Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
> >> [1]+  Donesystem-config-printer
> >> [david@reddwarf ~]$
> >>
> >> Thanks   david
> >
> > Have you noticed that you're getting basic errors in your command due to
> > bad formatting?
> >
> > Anyway.
> >
> > What do you get when you issue the command "systemctl status cups.service"?
> >
> >
> >
> > [david@reddwarf ~]$ "systemctl status cups.service"
> bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found
> [david@reddwarf ~]$
> 
> Thanks  david
> 

Here you are trying too run the last command as a normal user, not root.
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Re: Fc16 printer not running (Resolved)

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 11:04 AM, fred smith wrote:

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:02:40AM +1000, david walcroft wrote:

On 01/13/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote:

No I used 'david', not root user.


Well, that is your problem.  A normal user isn't generally permitted to
make system wide configuration changes.


Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges.
I'm just a below average user.

Thanks  david


when you run the system-config-printer tool (which is what you get from
the gnome menus to add a printer) and it asks for authentication, just
type in root's password.

I ran system-config-printer again and got a response this time,printing 
is now up and running.


Thanks  david
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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 11:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/13/2012 09:02 AM, david walcroft wrote:

Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges.
I'm just a below average user.


Close and Reopen your browser.  You'll get the login prompt again.



Yes that worked,I have set up my printer and printed the test page.
Thank you for your help Ed.

david

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 09:02 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges.
> I'm just a below average user.

Close and Reopen your browser.  You'll get the login prompt again.

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread fred smith
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:02:40AM +1000, david walcroft wrote:
> On 01/13/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> >On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> >>No I used 'david', not root user.
> >
> >Well, that is your problem.  A normal user isn't generally permitted to
> >make system wide configuration changes.
> >
> Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges. 
> I'm just a below average user.
> 
> Thanks  david

when you run the system-config-printer tool (which is what you get from
the gnome menus to add a printer) and it asks for authentication, just
type in root's password.

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 10:49 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote:

No I used 'david', not root user.


Well, that is your problem.  A normal user isn't generally permitted to
make system wide configuration changes.

Can you tell me how to rectify my mistake and give me root privileges. 
I'm just a below average user.


Thanks  david

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 08:42 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> No I used 'david', not root user. 

Well, that is your problem.  A normal user isn't generally permitted to
make system wide configuration changes.

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 10:33 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/13/2012 08:29 AM, david walcroft wrote:

I now find I can log onto 'http://localhost:631/admin' but to add
printers errors to 'forbidden'


When you "add printer" you get a login dialog.  What user are you
entering?  I normally just use the "root" user for this.



No I used 'david', not root user.

thanks  david

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 08:29 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> I now find I can log onto 'http://localhost:631/admin' but to add
> printers errors to 'forbidden' 

When you "add printer" you get a login dialog.  What user are you
entering?  I normally just use the "root" user for this.

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 10:17 AM, david walcroft wrote:

On 01/13/2012 10:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/13/2012 07:58 AM, david walcroft wrote:

bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found
[david@reddwarf ~]$

Thanks david


Sorry to confuse you with my use of ""

Here is the actual example

[egreshko@meimei init.d]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service

cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:40:11
+0800; 1 day and 15h ago
Main PID: 2328 (cupsd)
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
� 2328 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f






Thanks Ed,

[david@reddwarf ~]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service
cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
Active: active (running) since Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:59:45 +1000; 14min ago
Main PID: 9197 (cupsd)
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
â”” 9197 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
[david@reddwarf ~]$

I can only print to file at the moment.

david



I now find I can log onto 'http://localhost:631/admin' but to add 
printers errors to 'forbidden'


david
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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 08:17 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> [david@reddwarf ~]$  /bin/systemctl status cups.service
> cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
>   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
>   Active: active (running) since Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:59:45
> +1000; 14min ago
> Main PID: 9197 (cupsd)
>   CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
>   └ 9197 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
> [david@reddwarf ~]$

And http://127.0.0.1:631/admin still gives an error?

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 10:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/13/2012 07:58 AM, david walcroft wrote:

bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found
[david@reddwarf ~]$

Thanks  david


Sorry to confuse you with my use of ""

Here is the actual example

[egreshko@meimei init.d]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service

cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
   Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:40:11
+0800; 1 day and 15h ago
 Main PID: 2328 (cupsd)
   CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
   â”” 2328 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f






Thanks Ed,

[david@reddwarf ~]$  /bin/systemctl status cups.service
cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
  Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
  Active: active (running) since Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:59:45 
+1000; 14min ago

Main PID: 9197 (cupsd)
  CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
  └ 9197 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
[david@reddwarf ~]$

I can only print to file at the moment.

david

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 07:58 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found
> [david@reddwarf ~]$
>
> Thanks  david 

Sorry to confuse you with my use of ""

Here is the actual example

[egreshko@meimei init.d]$ /bin/systemctl status cups.service

cups.service - CUPS Printing Service
  Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled)
  Active: active (running) since Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:40:11
+0800; 1 day and 15h ago
Main PID: 2328 (cupsd)
  CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
  └ 2328 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f


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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 09:42 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 01/12/2012 03:32 PM, david walcroft wrote:

I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print
so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it
installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install.



The hplip package is only needed if you're using a printer from HP. Why
would you expect it to be included in a *minimal* installation?



[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c systemctl start cups.service
su: user start does not exist


su -c 'systemctl start cups.service'

I've had it bashed into my head enough times that su will always
misunderstand the rest of the command line if there's any spaces in it
to make it automatic for me to enclose things in ticks.



[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c 'systemctl start cups.service'
Password:
[david@reddwarf ~]$ "systemctl status cups.service"
bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found
[david@reddwarf ~]$

Thanks   david
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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 09:47 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 01/13/2012 07:38 AM, david walcroft wrote:

On 01/13/2012 09:32 AM, david walcroft wrote:

I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print
so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it
installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install.
I get this error on using systemctl.

[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c '/sbin/systemctl start cups.service'
Password:
bash: /sbin/systemctl: No such file or directory
[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c systemctl start cups.service
su: user start does not exist
[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c 'cupsctl LogLevel=debug2'
Password:
cupsctl: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
[david@reddwarf ~]$

I also tried to enter Cups admin via "http://localhost:631/admin"; but
received a 'cannot connect to server' error.

I tried -

[david@reddwarf ~]$ service cups restart
Redirecting to /bin/systemctl restart cups.service
Failed to issue method call: Access denied

I also tried 'system config printer' but only had a 'start server'
button

Thanks david


I have just tried :-

[david@reddwarf ~]$ wget http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
--2012-01-13 09:35:54--  http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
Resolving localhost... ::1, 127.0.0.1
Connecting to localhost|::1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
[1]+  Donesystem-config-printer
[david@reddwarf ~]$

Thanks   david


Have you noticed that you're getting basic errors in your command due to
bad formatting?

Anyway.

What do you get when you issue the command "systemctl status cups.service"?



[david@reddwarf ~]$ "systemctl status cups.service"

bash: systemctl status cups.service: command not found
[david@reddwarf ~]$

Thanks  david

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/13/2012 07:38 AM, david walcroft wrote:
> On 01/13/2012 09:32 AM, david walcroft wrote:
>> I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print
>> so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it
>> installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install.
>> I get this error on using systemctl.
>>
>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c '/sbin/systemctl start cups.service'
>> Password:
>> bash: /sbin/systemctl: No such file or directory
>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c systemctl start cups.service
>> su: user start does not exist
>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c 'cupsctl LogLevel=debug2'
>> Password:
>> cupsctl: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
>> [david@reddwarf ~]$
>>
>> I also tried to enter Cups admin via "http://localhost:631/admin"; but
>> received a 'cannot connect to server' error.
>>
>> I tried -
>>
>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ service cups restart
>> Redirecting to /bin/systemctl restart cups.service
>> Failed to issue method call: Access denied
>>
>> I also tried 'system config printer' but only had a 'start server'
>> button
>>
>> Thanks david
>
> I have just tried :-
>
> [david@reddwarf ~]$ wget http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
> --2012-01-13 09:35:54--  http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
> Resolving localhost... ::1, 127.0.0.1
> Connecting to localhost|::1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
> Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
> [1]+  Donesystem-config-printer
> [david@reddwarf ~]$
>
> Thanks   david

Have you noticed that you're getting basic errors in your command due to
bad formatting?

Anyway.

What do you get when you issue the command "systemctl status cups.service"?

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/12/2012 03:32 PM, david walcroft wrote:

I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print
so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it
installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install.



The hplip package is only needed if you're using a printer from HP.  Why 
would you expect it to be included in a *minimal* installation?




[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c systemctl start cups.service
su: user start does not exist


su -c 'systemctl start cups.service'

I've had it bashed into my head enough times that su will always 
misunderstand the rest of the command line if there's any spaces in it 
to make it automatic for me to enclose things in ticks.

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Re: Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

On 01/13/2012 09:32 AM, david walcroft wrote:

I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print
so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it
installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install.
I get this error on using systemctl.

[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c '/sbin/systemctl start cups.service'
Password:
bash: /sbin/systemctl: No such file or directory
[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c systemctl start cups.service
su: user start does not exist
[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c 'cupsctl LogLevel=debug2'
Password:
cupsctl: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
[david@reddwarf ~]$

I also tried to enter Cups admin via "http://localhost:631/admin"; but
received a 'cannot connect to server' error.

I tried -

[david@reddwarf ~]$ service cups restart
Redirecting to /bin/systemctl restart cups.service
Failed to issue method call: Access denied

I also tried 'system config printer' but only had a 'start server' button

Thanks david


I have just tried :-

[david@reddwarf ~]$ wget http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
--2012-01-13 09:35:54--  http://localhost:631/admin/log/error_log
Resolving localhost... ::1, 127.0.0.1
Connecting to localhost|::1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
Connecting to localhost|127.0.0.1|:631... failed: Connection refused.
[1]+  Donesystem-config-printer
[david@reddwarf ~]$

Thanks   david
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Fc16 printer not running

2012-01-12 Thread david walcroft

I have just done a Fc16 x86_64 minimal install,I could not print
so I tried installing "hplip" for my HP psc2110,to my surprise it 
installed as I thought it was installed during the Fc16 minimal install.

 I get this error on using systemctl.

[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c '/sbin/systemctl start cups.service'
Password:
bash: /sbin/systemctl: No such file or directory
[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c systemctl start cups.service
su: user start does not exist
[david@reddwarf ~]$ su -c 'cupsctl LogLevel=debug2'
Password:
cupsctl: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused
[david@reddwarf ~]$

I also tried to enter Cups admin via "http://localhost:631/admin"; but 
received a 'cannot connect to server' error.


I tried -

[david@reddwarf ~]$ service cups restart
Redirecting to /bin/systemctl  restart cups.service
Failed to issue method call: Access denied

I also tried 'system config printer' but only had a 'start server' button

Thanks   david
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