Re: GUI that uses RPM Groups?

2014-10-18 Thread Robin Laing

On 2014-10-17 20:12, Kelly Miller wrote:

I've been wondering about this for quite some time, but my recent troubles
with finding a good GUI installer for Fedora 20 has brought it to the
forefront.  Why is it that none of the GUI's for yum  dnf support the old
RPM groups?  Were they left out of yum and PackageKit or something?  And
can someone suggest a good GUI for installing packages?  I find both Apper
and Yumex to be lacking in package structure too much to use, in that the
categories don't show all installable packages and to get all the packages,
you have no choice but to show all packages, with no categorization.  And
I'm trying to avoid having to either go through the large list of packages
or trying to pull the list of packages I need out of my memory.





I use yumex and I have group installs.  At least yum groups.

Not sure what you are looking for in your groups.

I see that other repositories are included in the group view so

Search is very useful when I am looking for something.

Can you give an example of what you are missing from Group install?



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Re: GUI that uses RPM Groups?

2014-10-18 Thread Kelly Miller
I tried using yum groups.  The problem is, yum groups only seem to pick up
packages from Fedora proper, not from any other repositories.  So I can't
get anything from RPM Fusion or the like.  And I agree that search is very
useful (it's normally how I install specific packages), but it doesn't help
if I'm trying to go through all the packages in a list, deciding which ones
I could use on my system (I usually do this on a brand new install, which
is why reinstalling Fedora 20 brought this up).  I used to use Smart
Package Manager, which nicely broke down packages by groups, but it's been
broken and appears to be abandoned, so it's no good anymore.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Robin Laing me...@telusplanet.net wrote:

 On 2014-10-17 20:12, Kelly Miller wrote:

 I've been wondering about this for quite some time, but my recent troubles
 with finding a good GUI installer for Fedora 20 has brought it to the
 forefront.  Why is it that none of the GUI's for yum  dnf support the old
 RPM groups?  Were they left out of yum and PackageKit or something?  And
 can someone suggest a good GUI for installing packages?  I find both Apper
 and Yumex to be lacking in package structure too much to use, in that the
 categories don't show all installable packages and to get all the
 packages,
 you have no choice but to show all packages, with no categorization.  And
 I'm trying to avoid having to either go through the large list of packages
 or trying to pull the list of packages I need out of my memory.




 I use yumex and I have group installs.  At least yum groups.

 Not sure what you are looking for in your groups.

 I see that other repositories are included in the group view so

 Search is very useful when I am looking for something.

 Can you give an example of what you are missing from Group install?



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GUI that uses RPM Groups?

2014-10-17 Thread Kelly Miller
I've been wondering about this for quite some time, but my recent troubles
with finding a good GUI installer for Fedora 20 has brought it to the
forefront.  Why is it that none of the GUI's for yum  dnf support the old
RPM groups?  Were they left out of yum and PackageKit or something?  And
can someone suggest a good GUI for installing packages?  I find both Apper
and Yumex to be lacking in package structure too much to use, in that the
categories don't show all installable packages and to get all the packages,
you have no choice but to show all packages, with no categorization.  And
I'm trying to avoid having to either go through the large list of packages
or trying to pull the list of packages I need out of my memory.
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