Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Yes, maybe ALT+PRINT+K would be better :) i have to try it. From wikipedia (probably also in kernel/Documentation but now i'm on a win machine) i've read: On newer kernels (exact version unknown), it is possible to have a more fine-grained control. [...] #$ echo #number /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq Possible values are: 0 - disable sysrq 1 - enable sysrq completely 1 - bitmask of enabled sysrq functions: 2 - control of console logging level 4 - control of keyboard (SAK, unraw) 8 - debugging dumps of processes etc. 16 - sync command 32 - remount read-only 64 - signalling of processes (term, kill, oom-kill) maybe a damage-free number could be 16? R,E,I,S,U,B = nice but Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring for non-english peopole not helpful and if you use the wrong order you have a problem -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 07.07.2011 11:53, schrieb Daniele Guerrieri: Yes, maybe ALT+PRINT+K would be better :) i have to try it. ok :-) From wikipedia (probably also in kernel/Documentation but now i'm on a win machine) i've read: have you a link? i do not find this on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysrq On newer kernels (exact version unknown), it is possible to have a more fine-grained control. [...] #$ echo #number /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq Possible values are: 0 - disable sysrq 1 - enable sysrq completely 1 - bitmask of enabled sysrq functions: 2 - control of console logging level 4 - control of keyboard (SAK, unraw) 8 - debugging dumps of processes etc. 16 - sync command 32 - remount read-only 64 - signalling of processes (term, kill, oom-kill) maybe a damage-free number could be 16? i think this is not enough for ALT+PRINT+K because sync is only for flushing disk-buffers, maybe i play around a little bit at the weekend but i guess we need something like 4 + 64 for ALT+PRINT+K and 16 is really nice if all hangs to use it before a hrad power-cycle what i nat want are the reboot/halt-options because without sync/umount they are the same like a hard-reset/power-cycle signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
ok :-) From wikipedia (probably also in kernel/Documentation but now i'm on a win machine) i've read: have you a link? i do not find this on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysrq here the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key :) this value is a bitmask: i think this is not enough for ALT+PRINT+K because sync is only for flushing disk-buffers, maybe i play around a hm, you're right, i think that, since it's a bitmask we need to sum the values we want: e.g. if we want sync (16),debugging(8), signalling(64), we have to sum -# value=8+16+64=88, which binary is: 01 01 10 00 ---example:- __ 01: 00 00 00 01 | 02: 00 00 00 10 | 04: 00 00 01 00 | 08: 00 00 10 00 | 16: 00 01 00 00 | 32: 00 10 00 00 | 64: 01 00 00 00 | __| 01 01 10 00 - So the magic number would be 88 :) this night i'll try it. little bit at the weekend but i guess we need something like 4 + 64 for ALT+PRINT+K and 16 is really nice if all hangs to use it before a hrad power-cycle what i nat want are the reboot/halt-options because without sync/umount they are the same like a hard-reset/power-cycle -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On 07/07/2011 10:57 PM, Daniele Guerrieri wrote: here the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key :) this value is a bitmask: It is good to know about thisespecially /proc/sysrq-trigger. FWIW, I'll would still go about ssh'ing in as the first resort and trying to kill off apps in a clean way first before following up with an echo to sysrq-trigger. In the past, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE would/could result in files in a corrupt state. -- Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom are you going to speak it to? -- Clarence Darrow -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On 7/5/11, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: in the newest release the shortcut for restart X11 is disabled and i hate it because if X11 drives crazy it is really useful and where i work nobody kills my X11 if he won't killed self i guess the following config-file does this disable but the comment says changes here are useless, so how tell system-setup-keyboard not wanting the last line? [root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf # This file is autogenerated by system-setup-keyboard. Any # modifications will be lost. Section InputClass Identifier system-setup-keyboard MatchIsKeyboard on Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariantnodeadkeys Option XkbOptionsterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp, EndSection I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve, but man system-setup-keyboard may help you. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On Wed July 6 2011, Andras Simon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve, but man system-setup-keyboard may help you. What would one put in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard if one DID want to enable CTL+ALT+BKSP to kill X? I looked at the man page for system-setup-keyboard, but it doesn't say *anything* about re-enabling CTL+ALT+BKSP... I, for one, would find it convenient to re-enable that, as there are times (such as an updated graphics driver) where it would be convenient to restart X without having to completely change init levels or restart the whole computer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On 07/06/2011 06:30 PM, John Aldrich wrote: On Wed July 6 2011, Andras Simon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve, but man system-setup-keyboard may help you. What would one put in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard if one DID want to enable CTL+ALT+BKSP to kill X? I looked at the man page for system-setup-keyboard, but it doesn't say *anything* about re-enabling CTL+ALT+BKSP... I, for one, would find it convenient to re-enable that, as there are times (such as an updated graphics driver) where it would be convenient to restart X without having to completely change init levels or restart the whole computer. I don't know what the incantation would be However, a logout/login would suggest that is all that is needed to restart the X server. Logout and login and you will see a new /usr/bin/Xorg has been started. Also, note that you'll have a new /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Ed -- Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom are you going to speak it to? -- Clarence Darrow -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:30 AM, John Aldrich jmaldr...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wed July 6 2011, Andras Simon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve, but man system-setup-keyboard may help you. What would one put in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard if one DID want to enable CTL+ALT+BKSP to kill X? How about 'XKBOPTIONS=terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp'? (untested!) Otherwise (also untested) setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp in .profile could be an option. In GNOME, it can be done through the keyboard preferences (Layouts tab and Layout Options). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
The DontZap option in Xorg.conf from memory (see man xorg.conf) Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 12:45, schrieb Ed Greshko: On 07/06/2011 06:30 PM, John Aldrich wrote: On Wed July 6 2011, Andras Simon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve, but man system-setup-keyboard may help you. What would one put in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard if one DID want to enable CTL+ALT+BKSP to kill X? I looked at the man page for system-setup-keyboard, but it doesn't say *anything* about re-enabling CTL+ALT+BKSP... I, for one, would find it convenient to re-enable that, as there are times (such as an updated graphics driver) where it would be convenient to restart X without having to completely change init levels or restart the whole computer. I don't know what the incantation would be However, a logout/login would suggest that is all that is needed to restart the X server. Logout and login and you will see a new /usr/bin/Xorg has been started. Also, note that you'll have a new /var/log/Xorg.0.log yeah and sometimes X is buggy and hangs with consuming 100% CPU while every mouse-click will be registrated many seconds later and you are unable to logout properly in this state CTRL+ALT+F2 does not work even so if CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE would be active as all the years before you could use this and 20-40 seconds later you get a login-screen instead shutdown with ACPI-Power-Down signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 00:13, schrieb Petrus de Calguarium: Reindl Harald wrote: 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf # This file is autogenerated by system-setup-keyboard. Any # modifications will be lost. Section InputClass Identifier system-setup-keyboard MatchIsKeyboard on Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariantnodeadkeys Option XkbOptionsterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp, My file is exactly the same and the key combination of ctrl-alt-backspace *does* produce the desired result. I *think* that kdesettings must have created it, but I am not certain. I don't quite understand whether you want to have ctrl-alt-backspace working sensibly, or whether you want it disabled. The file enables it. If you want it disabled, I presume you could delete it or move it to a backup location, to experiment hm i want it ENABLED i have also the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my older machine and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/local.conf on my brand new and i am unable on both of them to restart the xserver with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE Section ServerFlags Option AIGLXon Option DontZap off EndSection signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 13:02, schrieb Alan Cox: The DontZap option in Xorg.conf from memory (see man xorg.conf) this does not interest my system :-( [root@rh:~]$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/01-local.conf Section Module Loadvnc EndSection Section ServerFlags Option DontZap on EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 EndSection Section InputClass Identifier Keyboard Option XkbOptions ctrl:nocaps EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Option passwordFile /root/.vnc/passwd EndSection signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On 07/06/2011 11:45 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 07/06/2011 06:30 PM, John Aldrich wrote: On Wed July 6 2011, Andras Simon wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you want to achieve, but man system-setup-keyboard may help you. What would one put in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard if one DID want to enable CTL+ALT+BKSP to kill X? I looked at the man page for system-setup-keyboard, but it doesn't say *anything* about re-enabling CTL+ALT+BKSP... I, for one, would find it convenient to re-enable that, as there are times (such as an updated graphics driver) where it would be convenient to restart X without having to completely change init levels or restart the whole computer. I don't know what the incantation would be However, a logout/login would suggest that is all that is needed to restart the X server. Not much use when your desktop session is already too broken to respond to a polite logout request. It's like Alan said: set the DontZap option to false but it needs to go into the ServerFlags section rather than the InputClass section that you have by default in the 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf file. So something like: $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-zap-my-x-up.conf Section ServerFlags OptionDontZapfalse EndSection Regards, Bryn. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: yeah and sometimes X is buggy and hangs with consuming 100% CPU while every mouse-click will be registrated many seconds later and you are unable to logout properly in this state CTRL+ALT+F2 does not work even so if CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE would be active as all the years before you could use this and 20-40 seconds later you get a login-screen instead shutdown with ACPI-Power-Down I suppose I'm just one of the lucky ones that have rarely needed this feature in the past several years. When I've had this situation recently, due to bad nvidia driver, I just ssh'd in and did what needed to be done. No shut down was needed. But I could see the desire to be expeditious. -- Sent from my Android tablet with K-9 Mail. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 15:52, schrieb Ed Greshko: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: yeah and sometimes X is buggy and hangs with consuming 100% CPU while every mouse-click will be registrated many seconds later and you are unable to logout properly in this state CTRL+ALT+F2 does not work even so if CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE would be active as all the years before you could use this and 20-40 seconds later you get a login-screen instead shutdown with ACPI-Power-Down I suppose I'm just one of the lucky ones that have rarely needed this feature in the past several years. When I've had this situation recently, due to bad nvidia driver and with F14 on Intel-Sandy-Bridge you need it too because X freezes permanently I just ssh'd in and did what needed to be done. No shut down was needed. But I could see the desire to be expeditious well if your two machines are on two different edges of the country and you have to take your android-handy, unlock a ssh-key, hope that you can read the damned process-id of the crazy X, type killall -S SIGKILL pid on the virtual keyboard and this happens more than one time you begin to hate X11 and/or the new defaults signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 15:45, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves: $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-zap-my-x-up.conf Section ServerFlags OptionDontZapfalse EndSection if it would work as i wrote yesterday: i have also the following in /etc/X11/xorg.conf on my older machine and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/local.conf on my brand new and i am unable on both of them to restart the xserver with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE Section ServerFlags Option AIGLXon Option DontZap off EndSection __ and even remove xorg.conf and splitting this all under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d does not help - so WHAT blocks this shortcut? KDM? __ [root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 01-nocaps.conf Section InputClass Identifier Keyboard Option XkbOptions ctrl:nocaps EndSection [root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 02-dont-zap.conf Section ServerFlags OptionDontZapfalse EndSection [root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 03-vnc.conf Section Module Loadvnc EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Option passwordFile /root/.vnc/passwd EndSection signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 16:06, schrieb Reindl Harald: [root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 02-dont-zap.conf Section ServerFlags OptionDontZapfalse EndSection this does all not work and it needs ubuntu-users for help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html This is due to the fact that “DontZap” is no longer an option in the X server and has become an option in XKB instead /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/dont-zap.sh needs chmod 755 [root@rh:~]$ cat /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/dont-zap.sh #!/bin/sh setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp after that as user you can restart X as all the years before signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:02:43 +0200 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 06.07.2011 13:02, schrieb Alan Cox: The DontZap option in Xorg.conf from memory (see man xorg.conf) this does not interest my system :-( Section ServerFlags Option DontZap on EndSection You probably want it off not on... Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 16:48, schrieb Alan Cox: On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:02:43 +0200 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 06.07.2011 13:02, schrieb Alan Cox: The DontZap option in Xorg.conf from memory (see man xorg.conf) this does not interest my system :-( Section ServerFlags Option DontZap on EndSection You probably want it off not on... Alan probably such things should not be changed permanently what happens on many edges in linux-subsystems the last 2-3 years to make people crazy with destroying their knowledge over and over http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html This is due to the fact that “DontZap” is no longer an option in the X server and has become an option in XKB instead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On 07/06/2011 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 06.07.2011 16:06, schrieb Reindl Harald:
[root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 02-dont-zap.conf
Section ServerFlags
OptionDontZapfalse
EndSection
this does all not work and it needs ubuntu-users for help
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
This is due to the fact that “DontZap” is no longer an option in the X
server and
has become an option in XKB instead
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/dont-zap.sh needs chmod 755
[root@rh:~]$ cat /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/dont-zap.sh
#!/bin/sh
setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
This should already be set up by the default 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf. This
is the case on my system:
$ grep terminate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-keyboard.conf
Option XkbOptionsterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,
If the file is missing or altered on your machine you may be better off
restoring it than adding the xinit hack above.
Looking at the 01-local.conf you posted it appears you have changed XkbOptions
on your system:
Section InputClass
Identifier Keyboard
Option XkbOptions ctrl:nocaps
EndSection
You may like to revert that or add terminate back into it..
after that as user you can restart X as all the years before
I wouldn't take a random ubuntu help site as canon. If this is the case then
someone forgot to tell the fedora packages; it's still documented in the man
page on f15 and still exists in the xorg-server sources:
$ grep -r DontZap xorg-server-1.10.2/
xorg-server-1.10.2/hw/xfree86/common/xf86Config.c: { FLAG_DONTZAP,
DontZap, OPTV_BOOLEAN,
xorg-server-1.10.2/hw/xfree86/doc/man/Xorg.man:.B DontZap
xorg-server-1.10.2/hw/xfree86/doc/man/xorg.conf.man:.BI Option \*qDontZap\*q
\*q boolean \*q
xorg-server-1.10.2/hw/xfree86/doc/devel/Registry:DontZap B
Fdisable Ctrl-Alt-BS sequence
xorg-server-1.10.2/hw/xfree86/xorgconf.cpp:#Option DontZap false
[...]
It still sets the global xf86Info.dontZap variable and adding the option causes
my X server to accept the zap keystroke. Removing it causes it to stop
responding to ctrl-alt-backspace.
I can't explain why you're seeing different behaviour on your system but I don't
claim to be an X expert.
If this has been removed from the X server in Ubuntu 9.10 that would appear to
be an ubuntu-specific change.
Regards,
Bryn.
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Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:16:46 +0100 Bryn M. Reeves wrote: This should already be set up by the default 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf. This is the case on my system: That is apparently a recent change. I know for sure that Ctrl-Alt-Bksp disappeared for a while in the default fedora config, but it does seem to be back in fedora 15 at least. Not sure when it reappeared as being enabled by default, but if you google the fedora users list, you should be able to find many outraged emails from when it first disappeared a few releases ago. You can even find all the folks explaining why it obviously should go away and it was always stupid to have it (which makes me wonder why it came back :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Ok... I just got pointed to a Wiki article for ArchLinux that describes how to do this for KDE (which is all /I/ am concerned about *grin*) Basically you open up Systemsettings, go to input devices, select the keyboard, go to the advanced tab and expandthe key sequence to kill x server and select CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and then apply and quit systemsettings. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Am 06.07.2011 18:16, schrieb Bryn M. Reeves: On 07/06/2011 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.07.2011 16:06, schrieb Reindl Harald: [root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 02-dont-zap.conf Section ServerFlags OptionDontZapfalse EndSection this does all not work and it needs ubuntu-users for help http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html This is due to the fact that “DontZap” is no longer an option in the X server and has become an option in XKB instead /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/dont-zap.sh needs chmod 755 [root@rh:~]$ cat /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/dont-zap.sh #!/bin/sh setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp This should already be set up by the default 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf. This is the case on my system: $ grep terminate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-system-setup-keyboard.conf Option XkbOptionsterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp, should is not enough and i posted this default-file which has comments to not edit it and looks like yours If the file is missing or altered on your machine you may be better off restoring it than adding the xinit hack above. it was never touched it does not work out of the box Looking at the 01-local.conf you posted it appears you have changed XkbOptions on your system: Section InputClass Identifier Keyboard Option XkbOptions ctrl:nocaps EndSection You may like to revert that or add terminate back into it.. i may not because this disables CAPS-LOCK after that as user you can restart X as all the years before he does not I wouldn't take a random ubuntu help site as canon. If this is the case then someone forgot to tell the fedora packages; it's still documented in the man page on f15 and still exists in the xorg-server sources: but it does not work so nice that something is in some manual but helps not It still sets the global xf86Info.dontZap variable and adding the option causes my X server to accept the zap keystroke. Removing it causes it to stop responding to ctrl-alt-backspace. I can't explain why you're seeing different behaviour on your system but I don't claim to be an X expert. If this has been removed from the X server in Ubuntu 9.10 that would appear to be an ubuntu-specific change. anyways, the ubuntu trick does help, but it is not the same as all the years before because this works only after gui login and not on the login-screen so i guess if X hangs it will probably not work signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
really nice, after some investigation: why not using ALT+PRINT+K the only problem i see is that there are combinations open no one would really like (B without S) R,E,I,S,U,B = nice but Raising Elephants Is So Utterly Boring for non-english peopole not helpful and if you use the wrong order you have a problem Am 06.07.2011 23:37, schrieb Daniele Guerrieri: And what do you think about enabling sysrq in sysctl.conf? i've done it on my system,and when X freezes i just have to enter the rescue mode with alt-print followed by R I , and init respawns gdm. Daniele 2011/7/6, Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com: On 07/06/2011 05:29 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:16:46 +0100 Bryn M. Reeves wrote: This should already be set up by the default 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf. This is the case on my system: That is apparently a recent change. I know for sure that Ctrl-Alt-Bksp disappeared for a while in the default fedora config, but it does seem Heh - turns out my testing was broken :) The 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf change has been there all along in f15 (timestamp on my system is back in April when I first installed this box from alpha and doesn't seem to have been updated since). to be back in fedora 15 at least. Not sure when it reappeared as being enabled by default, but if you google the fedora users list, you should be able to find many outraged emails from when it first disappeared a few releases ago. You can even find all the folks explaining why it Yep, I was there at the time.. adding the config option back in for users who wanted it just never seemed like such a big deal to me.. obviously should go away and it was always stupid to have it (which makes me wonder why it came back :-). I assumed when I installed f15 alpha for the first time it was to make life easier testing gnome-shell - I had a few occasions when I needed it during alpha/beta and it was on by default. When Reindl first asked I assumed something had changed in post-GA f15 - I re-tested and it didn't seem to work - I added DontZap false, checked again and it was working. Problem is my testing was flawed - the first time I tried it (when it appeared not to work) I was using synergy from another machine. After restarting X with DontZap I tested from the physical keyboard.. It turns out that ctrl-alt-delete appears to get filtered out somewhere when it's coming from a remote synergy client. Reverting everything back to how it was originally and zap is definitely on by default in f15 (via XKB) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
in the newest release the shortcut for restart X11 is disabled and i hate it because if X11 drives crazy it is really useful and where i work nobody kills my X11 if he won't killed self i guess the following config-file does this disable but the comment says changes here are useless, so how tell system-setup-keyboard not wanting the last line? [root@rh:/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d]$ cat 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf # This file is autogenerated by system-setup-keyboard. Any # modifications will be lost. Section InputClass Identifier system-setup-keyboard MatchIsKeyboard on Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariantnodeadkeys Option XkbOptionsterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp, EndSection signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to enable CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
Reindl Harald wrote: 00-system-setup-keyboard.conf # This file is autogenerated by system-setup-keyboard. Any # modifications will be lost. Section InputClass Identifier system-setup-keyboard MatchIsKeyboard on Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariantnodeadkeys Option XkbOptionsterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp, My file is exactly the same and the key combination of ctrl-alt-backspace *does* produce the desired result. I *think* that kdesettings must have created it, but I am not certain. I don't quite understand whether you want to have ctrl-alt-backspace working sensibly, or whether you want it disabled. The file enables it. If you want it disabled, I presume you could delete it or move it to a backup location, to experiment. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
