Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-08-01 Thread InvalidPath
On Jul 31, 2017 11:37 PM, "Walter H."  wrote:

On Mon, July 31, 2017 16:20, InvalidPath wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Walter H. 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, July 31, 2017 14:00, InvalidPath wrote:
>> >
>> > Being a long time Vmware user, a shirt time kvm user.. I still dont
>> > understand why vmware is a must in your situation.
>>
>> KVM for Windows?
>
>
> Umm no? Did I miss the part where you said you were using Windows as a
> main
> OS?

no, your question was invalid ...

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To be fair, you never actually stated what was your host OS even after
being asked twice.  Others have deduced that you at least want to run
Fedora but even after re-reading everything I still have no clue what you
are actually running as an OS on the machine that you are trying to install
vmware on.

If you are trying to install beware workstation on Fedora.. since it is not
officially supported I think you need to accept the fact that since some
people got it to work never means that it will work for everyone.
Ive learned that the hard way...
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/31/2017 01:08 AM, Walter H. wrote:
> tried VMware Wkst. 12.5.6, also 12.5.7 ... no change ...
> even the hack to get the additional virtual network interfaces, nothing 
> helped ...
>
> maybe the next release of VMware Wkst. 12.5.8 will run ...
>
> as VMware Wkst. is essential for me, there is no way having Linux instead of 
> Windows;
> the decision to try it with Fedora is the feature of inplace upgrade and keep 
> it
> up-to-date ...
>
> I'll keep my old windows running as log as the hardware is working ...

Well, if VMware Workstation is essential for you and since VMware Workstation 
is a
product from a company called VMware I would think you'd check their 
compatibility
charts.   Looking at 

https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&docTypeID=DT_KB_1_1&externalId=2129859

I see only Fedora 22 listed as being supported by them.  I'm sure you'll agree 
that
the Fedora community isn't responsible for providing a solution to getting 
VMware
Workstation running on Fedora.  But, it would appear that some have tried and 
have
succeeded with information they found on the internet.  Unfortunately, that 
seems not
to have worked for you.

Certainly you are frustrated since you "give up".  But I think you'll agree your
frustration should be directed at VMware and not at the Fedora Community.

I see they also only support up to Ubuntu 15.04 and not the most recent release
Ubuntu 17.04 and they don't even support Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS.

Now, things may have changed but I believe VMWare Workstation is a purchased
product?  At least that is the impression I get when I go to
https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation-for-linux.html and see a "Buy 
Online"
button.  Also, the last time I did have VMware Workstation (many years ago) you 
only
were given 30 days of supportbut could purchase a support package by 
incident. 

So, maybe contact them and query them on why that are slow to support new 
versions of
Linux?  And, since this is VMware centric maybe their forums would be a good 
place to
get help?  You've not mentioned trying thatso maybe you'll get more 
assistance
there?  https://communities.vmware.com/welcome

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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread Walter H.
On Mon, July 31, 2017 16:20, InvalidPath wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Walter H. 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, July 31, 2017 14:00, InvalidPath wrote:
>> >
>> > Being a long time Vmware user, a shirt time kvm user.. I still dont
>> > understand why vmware is a must in your situation.
>>
>> KVM for Windows?
>
>
> Umm no? Did I miss the part where you said you were using Windows as a
> main
> OS?

no, your question was invalid ...

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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread PropAAS DBA



On 07/31/2017 08:20 AM, InvalidPath wrote:


On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Walter H. > wrote:


On Mon, July 31, 2017 14:00, InvalidPath wrote:
>
> Being a long time Vmware user, a shirt time kvm user.. I still dont
> understand why vmware is a must in your situation.

KVM for Windows?
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Umm no? Did I miss the part where you said you were using Windows as a 
main OS?



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I'm running Fedora26 as my host (primary OS), I did this:

1) Follow this guide:
http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1992

2) start vmware (12.5.6) like this:
VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_LIBS=force /usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware &


This works for me...


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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread InvalidPath
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Walter H. 
wrote:

> On Mon, July 31, 2017 14:00, InvalidPath wrote:
> >
> > Being a long time Vmware user, a shirt time kvm user.. I still dont
> > understand why vmware is a must in your situation.
>
> KVM for Windows?
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Umm no? Did I miss the part where you said you were using Windows as a main
OS?
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread Walter H.
On Mon, July 31, 2017 14:00, InvalidPath wrote:
>
> Being a long time Vmware user, a shirt time kvm user.. I still dont
> understand why vmware is a must in your situation.

KVM for Windows?
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread InvalidPath
On Jul 31, 2017 4:37 AM, "Walter H."  wrote:

On Mon, July 31, 2017 10:58, Dr J Austin wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 10:04 +0200, Walter H. wrote:
>> On Sun, July 30, 2017 21:14, Dr J Austin wrote:
>> >
>> > Assuming you are running the linux version of WS 12.5.7
>> > and F26 kernel 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64
>> > Then I have w2k and windows 7 working
>> >
>> > Have you found this
>> > http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1992
>>
>> yes and didn't work,
>> only the virtual network adapters for NAT or Host-Only Guests worked
>> ...
>>
>
> Strange - mine is using auto-bridging OK
>

I mean only this two virtual network adapters can be seen by
# ifconfig

that's all

neither the player,
the workstation nor
the virtual network editor front end start ...

it is complete unuseable ...
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Being a long time Vmware user, a shirt time kvm user.. I still dont
understand why vmware is a must in your situation.
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread Walter H.
On Mon, July 31, 2017 10:58, Dr J Austin wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 10:04 +0200, Walter H. wrote:
>> On Sun, July 30, 2017 21:14, Dr J Austin wrote:
>> >
>> > Assuming you are running the linux version of WS 12.5.7
>> > and F26 kernel 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64
>> > Then I have w2k and windows 7 working
>> >
>> > Have you found this
>> > http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1992
>>
>> yes and didn't work,
>> only the virtual network adapters for NAT or Host-Only Guests worked
>> ...
>>
>
> Strange - mine is using auto-bridging OK
>

I mean only this two virtual network adapters can be seen by
# ifconfig

that's all

neither the player,
the workstation nor
the virtual network editor front end start ...

it is complete unuseable ...
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 Jul 2017 09:58:50 +0100
Dr J Austin wrote:

> > yes and didn't work,
> > only the virtual network adapters for NAT or Host-Only Guests worked ...
> >   
> 
> Strange - mine is using auto-bridging OK

Is libvirtd enabled and starting its own networking
and dnsmasq and interfering with vmware? (Just a thought,
I've never used vmware).
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread Dr J Austin
On Mon, 2017-07-31 at 10:04 +0200, Walter H. wrote:
> On Sun, July 30, 2017 21:14, Dr J Austin wrote:
> > 
> > Assuming you are running the linux version of WS 12.5.7
> > and F26 kernel 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64
> > Then I have w2k and windows 7 working
> > 
> > Have you found this
> > http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1992
> 
> yes and didn't work,
> only the virtual network adapters for NAT or Host-Only Guests worked ...
> 

Strange - mine is using auto-bridging OK





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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-31 Thread Walter H.
On Sun, July 30, 2017 21:14, Dr J Austin wrote:
>
> Assuming you are running the linux version of WS 12.5.7
> and F26 kernel 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64
> Then I have w2k and windows 7 working
>
> Have you found this
> http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1992

yes and didn't work,
only the virtual network adapters for NAT or Host-Only Guests worked ...

such a patchwork is not really acceptable, especially not when it doesn't
work ...

> On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 17:12 +, Zachary Snyder wrote:
>> You are trying to get VMware running on linux to host windows or vice
>> versa? If you're trying to host
>> windows inside linux is KVM/Qemu
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 1:10 PM Walter H. 
>> wrote:
>> > tried VMware Wkst. 12.5.6, also 12.5.7 ... no change ...
>> > even the hack to get the additional virtual network interfaces,
>> nothing
>> > helped ...
>> >
>> > maybe the next release of VMware Wkst. 12.5.8 will run ...
>> >
>> > as VMware Wkst. is essential for me, there is no way having Linux
>> > instead of Windows;
>> > the decision to try it with Fedora is the feature of inplace upgrade
>> and
>> > keep it up-to-date ...
>> >
>> > I'll keep my old windows running as log as the hardware is working
>> ...

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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-30 Thread Mark C. Allman
On 07/30/2017 01:12 PM, Zachary Snyder wrote:
> You are trying to get VMware running on linux to host windows or vice
> versa? If you're trying to host windows inside linux is KVM/Qemu
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 1:10 PM Walter H.  > wrote:
>
> tried VMware Wkst. 12.5.6, also 12.5.7 ... no change ...
> even the hack to get the additional virtual network interfaces,
> nothing
> helped ...
>
> maybe the next release of VMware Wkst. 12.5.8 will run ...
>
> as VMware Wkst. is essential for me, there is no way having Linux
> instead of Windows;
> the decision to try it with Fedora is the feature of inplace
> upgrade and
> keep it up-to-date ...
>
> I'll keep my old windows running as log as the hardware is working ...
>
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I had 12.5.6 and I now have 12.5.7 running on 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64. I
use it to run a Windows 10 64-bit creator updated VM. 

I ran into two problems with "out of the box" VMware Workstation:
1.  I needed to compile and install two modules manually
2.  A library was missing (found by running "strace -o /tmp/debug.txt
vmware"
 and looking at the end of what's in debug.txt)

I wrote a shell script to handle #1. I can't remember what the missing
library is for #2.

Post what's happening and I bet we can figure it out.
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-30 Thread Dr J Austin

Assuming you are running the linux version of WS 12.5.7
and F26 kernel 4.11.11-300.fc26.x86_64
Then I have w2k and windows 7 working

Have you found this
http://rglinuxtech.com/?p=1992

I followed the above URL

Sorting out the libraries

cp -r /usr/lib/vmware-installer/2.1.0/lib/lib/libexpat.so.0 /usr/lib/vmware/lib
cd /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libz.so.1
mv -i libz.so.1 libz.so.1.old
ln -s /usr/lib64/libz.so.1 .
vmware

---
Compiling the vmmon & vmnet modules

mkdir /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc

cd /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source
tar xf vmmon.tar
tar xf vmnet.tar

cd vmmon-only
make

cd ../vmnet-only
make

cp /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmmon-only/vmmon.ko /lib/modules/`uname 
-r`/misc
cp /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source/vmnet-only/vmmon.ko /lib/modules/`uname 
-r`/misc

depmod -a

In addition I had to disable 3D acceleration for the w7 virtual machine



On Sun, 2017-07-30 at 17:12 +, Zachary Snyder wrote:
> You are trying to get VMware running on linux to host windows or vice versa? 
> If you're trying to host
> windows inside linux is KVM/Qemu
> 
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 1:10 PM Walter H.  wrote:
> > tried VMware Wkst. 12.5.6, also 12.5.7 ... no change ...
> > even the hack to get the additional virtual network interfaces, nothing
> > helped ...
> > 
> > maybe the next release of VMware Wkst. 12.5.8 will run ...
> > 
> > as VMware Wkst. is essential for me, there is no way having Linux
> > instead of Windows;
> > the decision to try it with Fedora is the feature of inplace upgrade and
> > keep it up-to-date ...
> > 
> > I'll keep my old windows running as log as the hardware is working ...
> > 
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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-30 Thread Walter H.



On 30.07.2017 19:12, Zachary Snyder wrote:
You are trying to get VMware running on linux to host windows or vice 
versa?
No, the virtual machines must be compatible with other hosts running 
VMware ...

If you're trying to host windows inside linux is KVM/Qemu

No, because not any knowledge about it ...


On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 1:10 PM Walter H. > wrote:


tried VMware Wkst. 12.5.6, also 12.5.7 ... no change ...
even the hack to get the additional virtual network interfaces,
nothing
helped ...

maybe the next release of VMware Wkst. 12.5.8 will run ...

as VMware Wkst. is essential for me, there is no way having Linux
instead of Windows;
the decision to try it with Fedora is the feature of inplace
upgrade and
keep it up-to-date ...

I'll keep my old windows running as log as the hardware is working ...





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Re: I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-30 Thread Zachary Snyder
You are trying to get VMware running on linux to host windows or vice
versa? If you're trying to host windows inside linux is KVM/Qemu

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 1:10 PM Walter H. 
wrote:

> tried VMware Wkst. 12.5.6, also 12.5.7 ... no change ...
> even the hack to get the additional virtual network interfaces, nothing
> helped ...
>
> maybe the next release of VMware Wkst. 12.5.8 will run ...
>
> as VMware Wkst. is essential for me, there is no way having Linux
> instead of Windows;
> the decision to try it with Fedora is the feature of inplace upgrade and
> keep it up-to-date ...
>
> I'll keep my old windows running as log as the hardware is working ...
>
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I give up, no change to bring VMware Workstation running after F25->F26 upgrade ...

2017-07-30 Thread Walter H.

tried VMware Wkst. 12.5.6, also 12.5.7 ... no change ...
even the hack to get the additional virtual network interfaces, nothing 
helped ...


maybe the next release of VMware Wkst. 12.5.8 will run ...

as VMware Wkst. is essential for me, there is no way having Linux 
instead of Windows;
the decision to try it with Fedora is the feature of inplace upgrade and 
keep it up-to-date ...


I'll keep my old windows running as log as the hardware is working ...



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