Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On 06/26/2012 02:29 PM, Jim wrote: On 06/26/2012 02:23 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/26/2012 10:37 AM, Jim wrote: Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. Two questions: first, have you tried booting a different computer with this CD? Second, have you discussed this with Dell? Yes the CD will boot off another computer. And Dell isn't going to be much help with a old computer and me installing Linux, they will only give advice on Windows, and the CHARGE you for it. I don't expect anything less from Dell and their Technical Support division!..LoL! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On 06/26/2012 02:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/26/2012 11:29 AM, Jim wrote: Yes the CD will boot off another computer. OK, that's one possibility eliminated. Always good to make sure. And Dell isn't going to be much help with a old computer and me installing Linux, they will only give advice on Windows, and the CHARGE you for it. I'm not familiar with Dell, and had no idea how old the computer is. Are there any help forums or mailing lists for Dell you can ask on? (Not that I'm trying to shove you off, but you may need specialized assistance.) I do know, as an example, that there's a mailing list for people running Linux on Toshiba laptops, because I'm on it. Now THAT'S impressive! The fact that a hardware company will support and help out people who are using an OS that ISN'T Windows?.gotta check that one out for myself! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On 26.06.2012, Jim wrote: this booting off CDrom is a Major problem for this Dell 2400, it's all over the internet, but no has came up with a fix on the problem. You could try using an USB-stick. Download the F17 DVD .iso, do an isohybrid xxx.iso on it, and copy it to your stick: cat xxx.iso /dev/sdb (or whatever device the stick is) Now your stick is ready to boot right off, choose USB-HDD in the setup as your boot-drive. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
Fedora 17 new install on a USB connected hard drive. I have Dell Dimension 2400 with WindowsXP installed, But !! I can't get this Dell to Boot off a CDROM. by even setting up BIOS to boot off CDROM. Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. I was thinking about taking hard drive out the Dell and USB connect the hard drive to another Computer and do a resize of WindowsXP and install Fedora on hard drive and setting up the hard drive as a Boot drive , then put it back into the Dell 2400. The Dell hard drive is a IDE drive and My computer is SATA so I can't put the Dell hard drive in my PC. Will it Work -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 13:37 -0400, Jim wrote: Fedora 17 new install on a USB connected hard drive. I have Dell Dimension 2400 with WindowsXP installed, But !! I can't get this Dell to Boot off a CDROM. by even setting up BIOS to boot off CDROM. Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. I was thinking about taking hard drive out the Dell and USB connect the hard drive to another Computer and do a resize of WindowsXP and install Fedora on hard drive and setting up the hard drive as a Boot drive , then put it back into the Dell 2400. The Dell hard drive is a IDE drive and My computer is SATA so I can't put the Dell hard drive in my PC. Will it Work In addition to resizing your XP partition, you may have to move it over to make enough space for grub. There's lots of posts all over about this. You might first want to test by booting it on your PC via USB and with that SATA HD disconnected. If you fail to boot with some weird grub error then you still have some partition manipulation to do. To do partition manipulation, I generally use a gparted live CD. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On 06/26/2012 10:37 AM, Jim wrote: Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. Two questions: first, have you tried booting a different computer with this CD? Second, have you discussed this with Dell? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On 06/26/2012 02:23 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/26/2012 10:37 AM, Jim wrote: Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. Two questions: first, have you tried booting a different computer with this CD? Second, have you discussed this with Dell? Yes the CD will boot off another computer. And Dell isn't going to be much help with a old computer and me installing Linux, they will only give advice on Windows, and the CHARGE you for it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On 06/26/2012 11:29 AM, Jim wrote: Yes the CD will boot off another computer. OK, that's one possibility eliminated. Always good to make sure. And Dell isn't going to be much help with a old computer and me installing Linux, they will only give advice on Windows, and the CHARGE you for it. I'm not familiar with Dell, and had no idea how old the computer is. Are there any help forums or mailing lists for Dell you can ask on? (Not that I'm trying to shove you off, but you may need specialized assistance.) I do know, as an example, that there's a mailing list for people running Linux on Toshiba laptops, because I'm on it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On 06/26/2012 02:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/26/2012 11:29 AM, Jim wrote: Yes the CD will boot off another computer. OK, that's one possibility eliminated. Always good to make sure. And Dell isn't going to be much help with a old computer and me installing Linux, they will only give advice on Windows, and the CHARGE you for it. I'm not familiar with Dell, and had no idea how old the computer is. Are there any help forums or mailing lists for Dell you can ask on? (Not that I'm trying to shove you off, but you may need specialized assistance.) I do know, as an example, that there's a mailing list for people running Linux on Toshiba laptops, because I'm on it. this booting off CDrom is a Major problem for this Dell 2400, it's all over the internet, but no has came up with a fix on the problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 15:09:20 -0400, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote: this booting off CDrom is a Major problem for this Dell 2400, it's all over the internet, but no has came up with a fix on the problem. I'm guessing there isn't a BIOS (or possible other firmware) for your computer? If there was something like this might be fixed in such an update. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 13:37 -0400, Jim wrote: Fedora 17 new install on a USB connected hard drive. I have Dell Dimension 2400 with WindowsXP installed, But !! I can't get this Dell to Boot off a CDROM. by even setting up BIOS to boot off CDROM. Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. I was thinking about taking hard drive out the Dell and USB connect the hard drive to another Computer and do a resize of WindowsXP and install Fedora on hard drive and setting up the hard drive as a Boot drive , then put it back into the Dell 2400. The Dell hard drive is a IDE drive and My computer is SATA so I can't put the Dell hard drive in my PC. Will it Work Well there are several things. 1. The F17 DVD only boots on selected machines. Of my machines it boots on only w2 of the three. 2. Howerver I found it will boot if you perform the following procedure. Go into the Bios and then into the Boot Sequence option. You don't have to do anything except exit the Boot sequence and exit the bios. Exit and save if it asks you that. The the DVD will boot to the Install oe Update screen. Chose that and the booting will continue after producing the following mysterious erroo messgae: Error could not insert 'floppy' no such device Loading Fedora 17 i686 install rpcbind terminating on signal. Restart with rpcbind -w Just let the error message sit there until it goes in to the language choice menu. All my problems have been on Dell machines. -- -- === The Angels want to wear my red shoes. -- E. Costello === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 13:37 -0400, Jim wrote: Fedora 17 new install on a USB connected hard drive. I have Dell Dimension 2400 with WindowsXP installed, But !! I can't get this Dell to Boot off a CDROM. by even setting up BIOS to boot off CDROM. Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. I was thinking about taking hard drive out the Dell and USB connect the hard drive to another Computer and do a resize of WindowsXP and install Fedora on hard drive and setting up the hard drive as a Boot drive , then put it back into the Dell 2400. The Dell hard drive is a IDE drive and My computer is SATA so I can't put the Dell hard drive in my PC. Will it Work Don't you mean a DVD? If the the procedure I outlined in my previous note does not work Down load a Live CD. Install it on a usb stick using unetbootin you get from unetbootin.sourceforge.net Then use the usb stick to install Fedora 17. -- === The truth is what is; what should be is a dirty lie. -- Lenny Bruce === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/26/2012 12:37 PM, Jim wrote: Fedora 17 new install on a USB connected hard drive. I have Dell Dimension 2400 with WindowsXP installed, But !! I can't get this Dell to Boot off a CDROM. by even setting up BIOS to boot off CDROM. Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. I was thinking about taking hard drive out the Dell and USB connect the hard drive to another Computer and do a resize of WindowsXP and install Fedora on hard drive and setting up the hard drive as a Boot drive , then put it back into the Dell 2400. The Dell hard drive is a IDE drive and My computer is SATA so I can't put the Dell hard drive in my PC. Will it Work You will probably run into problems with the wrong drivers being loaded into the initrd image. It may not have the IDE drivers. Are you sure your system does not have an IDE connection as well as the SATA connections? A lot of motherboards have both. In any case, you will have to select a custom GRUB config because the drive configuration will be different when you are installing and when you boot with the drive back in the Dell. Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk/qYs8ACgkQqbQrVW3JyMS8LgCffA6sxz9LG/E0uHekS8iv1Wzb bsYAnj6RlihnE1XMHfWT9g5924KgMpdZ =iLfn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Installing Fedora on a USB connected Harddrive.
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.netwrote: On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 13:37 -0400, Jim wrote: Fedora 17 new install on a USB connected hard drive. I have Dell Dimension 2400 with WindowsXP installed, But !! I can't get this Dell to Boot off a CDROM. by even setting up BIOS to boot off CDROM. Yes the CD is a Bootable CD. If you read the CD from within WindowsXP it will read the the files on the CD. I was thinking about taking hard drive out the Dell and USB connect the hard drive to another Computer and do a resize of WindowsXP and install Fedora on hard drive and setting up the hard drive as a Boot drive , then put it back into the Dell 2400. The Dell hard drive is a IDE drive and My computer is SATA so I can't put the Dell hard drive in my PC. Will it Work Don't you mean a DVD? If the the procedure I outlined in my previous note does not work Down load a Live CD. Install it on a usb stick using unetbootin you get from unetbootin.sourceforge.net Then use the usb stick to install Fedora 17. -- === The truth is what is; what should be is a dirty lie. -- Lenny Bruce === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org I have a Dell that came with Linux pre-installed.They don't offer phone support, but they offer very good web support -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
