Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: I just did a fresh install of Fedora 15 x86_64 with KDE. KDE is mostly unusable in Fedora 15 while it was fine in Fedora 14 (with nvidia driver). The display seems to freeze for a few seconds every few seconds. nvidia's driver is historically optimized primarily for opengl, 2d/xrender not so much. The latter, is used extensively in kde's default oxygen style/theming. you could try switching away from oxygen widget theme, see if that helps any, systemsettings-application appearance-style and choose some widget style other than Oxygen, say Plastique another stab would be to switch to some plasma theme that uses less or no translucency, systemsettings-workspace appearance-Desktop Theme and choose something other than Air or Oxygen -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
On 06/06/2011 10:12 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: I just did a fresh install of Fedora 15 x86_64 with KDE. KDE is mostly unusable in Fedora 15 while it was fine in Fedora 14 (with nvidia driver). The display seems to freeze for a few seconds every few seconds. nvidia's driver is historically optimized primarily for opengl, 2d/xrender not so much. The latter, is used extensively in kde's default oxygen style/theming. you could try switching away from oxygen widget theme, see if that helps any, systemsettings-application appearance-style and choose some widget style other than Oxygen, say Plastique another stab would be to switch to some plasma theme that uses less or no translucency, systemsettings-workspace appearance-Desktop Theme and choose something other than Air or Oxygen FWIW, I have a GeForce GT 230 and I'm running the 270.41.19 driver package that I installed myself. Meaning, I didn't use rpmfusion or another repository. I am using the Oxygen Style as well as the Oxygen Theme and I've no performance issues whatsoever. Ed -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 04:48:29 +, Mark Eggers wrote: -- embarrassed snip -- options nvidia AccelerateTrapezoids=0 d) ln -s /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf nvidia (so boot doesn't complain) e) reboot Do not do this with 275.09. This will cause the boot to hang with an unknown parameter warning from nvidia / LSB. I apparently had forgotten to check the file back out of version control before rebooting last time. I recovered by doing Alt-Ctrl-F3, getting to a console, removing the parameter, and rebooting. I apologize. /mde/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
On Sat, 28 May 2011 05:30:10 -0400, Kevin H. Hobbs wrote: I just did a fresh install of Fedora 15 x86_64 with KDE. KDE is mostly unusable in Fedora 15 while it was fine in Fedora 14 (with nvidia driver). The display seems to freeze for a few seconds every few seconds. Menus take seconds to open. Windows leave garbage on the display when they are moved or re-sized. New windows are often filled with garbage before they are drawn all the way. KDE automatically disables the desktop effects. I installed and switched to fluxbox and everything is snappy. Without all of the KDE decoration firefox went from unusable to normal under fluxbox. I have not installed any software not in Fedora's repository (no nvidia drivers). System details that might be usefull: lenovo S10 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ6600 @ 2.40GHz 4 GB of DDR3 1067 MHz RAM nVidia Corporation G86 [Quadro NVS 290] nouveau driver is loaded and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Screen spans two 1600x1200 CRTs KDE runs fine on my system. This was upgraded from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15. CPU: 2.60 GHz P4 Memory: 1.50 GB RDR ram Disk:120 GB IDE drive Screen: 1640x1080 Samsung SyncMaster LCD / DMI Video: 512 MB 7600 GS AGPx2 (overclocked) Driver: 275.09 (beta from NVidia) Back when Cairo went from 1.09 to 1.10, there was a huge problem with themes that used gradients. Fedora by default uses gradients in their themes. There were three solutions: a) Downgrade Cairo b) Patch Cairo c) Don't run themes with gradients Cairo was released with a buggy gradients patch, with the caveat that it would NOT be carried over to Fedora 15. This fixed the performance problems in Fedora 14, but now we're running Fedora 15. You can really see the difference if you have run GtKPerf on Fedora 14, then run it on Fedora 15. The text input is three times slower on Fedora 15. After trolling the NVidia forums, I found a solution that works for me. a) Run a 270 or greater driver (required for xserver 1.10) b) create a file called nvidia in /etc/modprobe.d c) add the following: options nvidia AccelerateTrapezoids=0 d) ln -s /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf nvidia (so boot doesn't complain) e) reboot After doing this, GTKPerf performed slightly better than it did on Fedora 14. See if this helps you out. . . . just my two cents. /mde/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
I just did a fresh install of Fedora 15 x86_64 with KDE. KDE is mostly unusable in Fedora 15 while it was fine in Fedora 14 (with nvidia driver). The display seems to freeze for a few seconds every few seconds. Menus take seconds to open. Windows leave garbage on the display when they are moved or re-sized. New windows are often filled with garbage before they are drawn all the way. KDE automatically disables the desktop effects. I installed and switched to fluxbox and everything is snappy. Without all of the KDE decoration firefox went from unusable to normal under fluxbox. I have not installed any software not in Fedora's repository (no nvidia drivers). System details that might be usefull: lenovo S10 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPUQ6600 @ 2.40GHz 4 GB of DDR3 1067 MHz RAM nVidia Corporation G86 [Quadro NVS 290] nouveau driver is loaded and in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Screen spans two 1600x1200 CRTs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
I have not installed any software not in Fedora's repository (no nvidia drivers). Yeah, I guess you are hitting nouveau bugs here. So why don't you simply install the nvidia drivers? Do the problems also happen with desktop effects disabled? - Clemens -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
From: Clemens Eissererlinuxhi...@gmail.com I have not installed any software not in Fedora's repository (no nvidia drivers). Yeah, I guess you are hitting nouveau bugs here. So why don't you simply install the nvidia drivers? Do the problems also happen with desktop effects disabled? - Clemens I'd like to at least try to isolate the bugs and report them first. If everybody immediately switches to the proprietary drivers then the nouveau drivers and/or KDE will never improve. I'll eventually try the nvidia drivers so I can be sure it's a KDE/nouveau issue but first if anybody can say try this mesa patch, strace this or gdb that I'll do it. KDE automatically disables desktop effects. I can not disable them because I can not enable them... Well I could also disable the performance checks but I don't want KDE any slower. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
