Re: Keyboard Repeat Under Wayland in KDE

2024-10-12 Thread Barry


> On 12 Oct 2024, at 09:46, Stephen Morris via users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am having an issue at the moment in Eclipse and Konsole and when 
> composing this message in Thunderbird, in KDE with Wayland, where when I 
> press the enter key it randomly inputs Enter twice. This issue doesn't happen 
> in KDE with Xorg, but at the moment that combination is unstable (KDE keeps 
> crashing).
> I have tried increasing the key repeat delay to 1000, but that has made 
> no difference. I have increased the delay to 2000, but haven't tested that 
> yet. Can anyone suggest what I can look at to remedy this situation beside 
> turning off the key repeat?

You may have a failing keyboard.
Try testing with another keyboard?

Barry

> 
> regards,
> Steve
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Keyboard Repeat Under Wayland in KDE

2024-10-12 Thread Stephen Morris via users

Hi,
    I am having an issue at the moment in Eclipse and Konsole and when 
composing this message in Thunderbird, in KDE with Wayland, where when I 
press the enter key it randomly inputs Enter twice. This issue doesn't 
happen in KDE with Xorg, but at the moment that combination is unstable 
(KDE keeps crashing).
    I have tried increasing the key repeat delay to 1000, but that has 
made no difference. I have increased the delay to 2000, but haven't 
tested that yet. Can anyone suggest what I can look at to remedy this 
situation beside turning off the key repeat?


regards,
Steve



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Re: Keyboard repeat

2023-10-20 Thread GianPiero Puccioni

On 19/10/2023 19:16, Tim via users wrote:

On Thu, 2023-10-19 at 14:53 +0200, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:

I have a problem with the keyboard, once in while the key I press start
repeating even after a short press and doesn't stop until I press another key.

I had to disable the key repeat (not optimal) as it was disrupting my work.
This is going on for months, I waited for several updates to see if thing got
better but to no avail.


I'm always suspicious of the keyboard, itself, with those kinds of
issues.  Which is problematic to diagnose and deal with, when it's a
built-in keyboard on a laptop.  And looking at images of the Dell G15
F38 laptop you mentioned shows the kind of keyboard that'd be difficult
to blast grot out of with an air can.

Is it always the same key?
  

Good question!
I am not sure, but from what I remember most of the times it's the arrow keys, 
I'll try to remove and clean them.


G

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Re: Keyboard repeat

2023-10-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 10/19/2023 11:16 AM, Tim via users wrote:

I'm always suspicious of the keyboard, itself, with those kinds of
issues.  Which is problematic to diagnose and deal with, when it's a
built-in keyboard on a laptop.  And looking at images of the Dell G15
F38 laptop you mentioned shows the kind of keyboard that'd be difficult
to blast grot out of with an air can.


You can also pop the keyboard cap off, clean out anything you find and 
put the cap back on.  It's easy, and they're made for that.

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Re: Keyboard repeat

2023-10-19 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-10-19 at 14:53 +0200, GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
> I have a problem with the keyboard, once in while the key I press start 
> repeating even after a short press and doesn't stop until I press another key.
> 
> I had to disable the key repeat (not optimal) as it was disrupting my work.
> This is going on for months, I waited for several updates to see if thing got 
> better but to no avail.

I'm always suspicious of the keyboard, itself, with those kinds of
issues.  Which is problematic to diagnose and deal with, when it's a
built-in keyboard on a laptop.  And looking at images of the Dell G15
F38 laptop you mentioned shows the kind of keyboard that'd be difficult
to blast grot out of with an air can.

Is it always the same key?
 
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Re: Keyboard repeat

2023-10-19 Thread GianPiero Puccioni

On 19/10/2023 17:35, Richard England wrote:


On 10/19/23 07:15, stan via users wrote:

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:53:52 +0200
GianPiero Puccioni  wrote:


Hi,

I have a problem with the keyboard, once in while the key I press
start repeating even after a short press and doesn't stop until I
press another key.

I had to disable the key repeat (not optimal) as it was disrupting my
work. This is going on for months, I waited for several updates to
see if thing got better but to no avail.

My setup is a Laptop Dell G15 F38 with KDE(both X11 and Wayland).
Is there something I can try to fix this?

This sounds like this could be a hardware error to me; the laptop is not
sending the keypress release to the driver.  It could also be that the
driver is not catching the release signal.  Is there anything about the
keypress when this happens that is unique?  Is it a very light tap,
such that it would release very quickly, perhaps causing a failure of
the driver to catch the release?  Or really hard?

I remember that there is an application that when it runs it shows
the key press and key release events, but I can't remember the name of
it. Perhaps someone else knows it.  If you can run that, you can then
try to replicate the error, and see if occasionally a release is missed.
And if it is the way the key is pressed causing the problem.




I believe the utility called "xev" is one of the tools that reports the key 
press events. It is available for installation in the repos.



~~R


Yes, have that. But I did another update (I didn't see there was some new stuff 
including a kernel) and using Wayland seems that it works a lot better, either 
it is fixed or it happens more rarely. Let's see what happens.


Thanks all for the help.

G
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Re: Keyboard repeat

2023-10-19 Thread Richard England


On 10/19/23 07:15, stan via users wrote:

On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:53:52 +0200
GianPiero Puccioni  wrote:


Hi,

I have a problem with the keyboard, once in while the key I press
start repeating even after a short press and doesn't stop until I
press another key.

I had to disable the key repeat (not optimal) as it was disrupting my
work. This is going on for months, I waited for several updates to
see if thing got better but to no avail.

My setup is a Laptop Dell G15 F38 with KDE(both X11 and Wayland).
Is there something I can try to fix this?

This sounds like this could be a hardware error to me; the laptop is not
sending the keypress release to the driver.  It could also be that the
driver is not catching the release signal.  Is there anything about the
keypress when this happens that is unique?  Is it a very light tap,
such that it would release very quickly, perhaps causing a failure of
the driver to catch the release?  Or really hard?

I remember that there is an application that when it runs it shows
the key press and key release events, but I can't remember the name of
it. Perhaps someone else knows it.  If you can run that, you can then
try to replicate the error, and see if occasionally a release is missed.
And if it is the way the key is pressed causing the problem.
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I believe the utility called "xev" is one of the tools that reports the 
key press events. It is available for installation in the repos.



~~R
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Re: Keyboard repeat

2023-10-19 Thread Roger Heflin
You aren't using something like VNC are you?

VNC (and some other remote viewers) seem to disable repeats simply
because something about the key-up seems to be unreliable for that
setup (even under Windows).

I know some vendors Web Remote Consoles do not disable key repeats and
should (repeats happen at random all of the time).


On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 7:54 AM GianPiero Puccioni
 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a problem with the keyboard, once in while the key I press start
> repeating even after a short press and doesn't stop until I press another key.
>
> I had to disable the key repeat (not optimal) as it was disrupting my work.
> This is going on for months, I waited for several updates to see if thing got
> better but to no avail.
>
> My setup is a Laptop Dell G15 F38 with KDE(both X11 and Wayland).
> Is there something I can try to fix this?
>
> Thanks,
>G
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Re: Keyboard repeat

2023-10-19 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:53:52 +0200
GianPiero Puccioni  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem with the keyboard, once in while the key I press
> start repeating even after a short press and doesn't stop until I
> press another key.
> 
> I had to disable the key repeat (not optimal) as it was disrupting my
> work. This is going on for months, I waited for several updates to
> see if thing got better but to no avail.
> 
> My setup is a Laptop Dell G15 F38 with KDE(both X11 and Wayland).
> Is there something I can try to fix this?

This sounds like this could be a hardware error to me; the laptop is not
sending the keypress release to the driver.  It could also be that the
driver is not catching the release signal.  Is there anything about the
keypress when this happens that is unique?  Is it a very light tap,
such that it would release very quickly, perhaps causing a failure of
the driver to catch the release?  Or really hard?

I remember that there is an application that when it runs it shows
the key press and key release events, but I can't remember the name of
it. Perhaps someone else knows it.  If you can run that, you can then
try to replicate the error, and see if occasionally a release is missed.
And if it is the way the key is pressed causing the problem.
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Keyboard repeat

2023-10-19 Thread GianPiero Puccioni

Hi,

I have a problem with the keyboard, once in while the key I press start 
repeating even after a short press and doesn't stop until I press another key.


I had to disable the key repeat (not optimal) as it was disrupting my work.
This is going on for months, I waited for several updates to see if thing got 
better but to no avail.


My setup is a Laptop Dell G15 F38 with KDE(both X11 and Wayland).
Is there something I can try to fix this?

Thanks,
  G
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