Re: [SOLVED] LibreOffice Base to MariaDB?

[Greg Woods]

After installing the "unixODBC" and "mariadb-connector-odbc" packages, I
finally found this:

https://mariadb.com/kb/en/creating-a-data-source-with-mariadb-connectorodbc/

After following the directions there for setting up a data source and
running the "odbcinst" commands from that document, I got it to work.

--Greg


On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 8:22 PM Greg Woods  wrote:

> I remember setting this up quite some time ago, but now I have a new
> machine running F38. I can find some documentation for the old very tedious
> procedure to get this to work; it still does work on an older machine where
> I had done this. But I notice now that Fedora might already have some of
> the required packages, such as mariadb-connector-odbc-3.1.19-1.fc38.x86_64
> and unixODBC-2.3.11-2.fc38.x86_64 . Would these packages work? Has anyone
> here already gotten LibreOfficeBase to talk to a MariaDB database on Fedora
> 38? If so can you point me to a place that describes the process for
> getting it working?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> --Greg
>
>
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LibreOffice Base to MariaDB?

[Greg Woods]

I remember setting this up quite some time ago, but now I have a new
machine running F38. I can find some documentation for the old very tedious
procedure to get this to work; it still does work on an older machine where
I had done this. But I notice now that Fedora might already have some of
the required packages, such as mariadb-connector-odbc-3.1.19-1.fc38.x86_64
and unixODBC-2.3.11-2.fc38.x86_64 . Would these packages work? Has anyone
here already gotten LibreOfficeBase to talk to a MariaDB database on Fedora
38? If so can you point me to a place that describes the process for
getting it working?

Thanks in advance,
--Greg
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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[Robert McBroom via users]

On 5/19/22 20:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/19/22 06:12, Robert McBroom via users wrote:

On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not 
have libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.


Tried manual install on F35 system

sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math

and got this strange result

Error:
Problem: conflicting requests
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b

ut none of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but

none of the providers can be installed
  - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none

of the providers can be installed
  - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered 
out by modular filtering


What are these missing requirements?


There is only one missing dependency here.  The whole chain comes 
down to that last line.  According to a man page, that most likely 
indicates that some module is overriding that package.


What does "dnf module list --enabled" show? 

# dnf module list --enabled
Last metadata expiration check: 2:06:42 ago on Thu 19 May 2022 
06:24:39 AM EDT.

@modulefailsafe
Name   Stream    Profiles Summary
ant    1.10 [e]  default  Java build tool
maven  3.5 [e]   default  Java project management and 
project comprehension tool


Hint: [d]efault, [e]nabled, [x]disabled, [i]nstalled

No modules show as installed. I don't use apache that I know about 
unless some components are pulled by other rpm.


They are enabled, so they override the default repo.
Run "dnf module reset \*" and then try the original install again.
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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/19/22 06:12, Robert McBroom via users wrote:

On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have 
libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.


Tried manual install on F35 system

sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math

and got this strange result

Error:
Problem: conflicting requests
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b

ut none of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but

none of the providers can be installed
  - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none

of the providers can be installed
  - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out 
by modular filtering


What are these missing requirements?


There is only one missing dependency here.  The whole chain comes down 
to that last line.  According to a man page, that most likely 
indicates that some module is overriding that package.


What does "dnf module list --enabled" show? 

# dnf module list --enabled
Last metadata expiration check: 2:06:42 ago on Thu 19 May 2022 06:24:39 
AM EDT.

@modulefailsafe
Name   Stream    Profiles Summary
ant    1.10 [e]  default  Java build tool
maven  3.5 [e]   default  Java project management and 
project comprehension tool


Hint: [d]efault, [e]nabled, [x]disabled, [i]nstalled

No modules show as installed. I don't use apache that I know about 
unless some components are pulled by other rpm.


They are enabled, so they override the default repo.
Run "dnf module reset \*" and then try the original install again.
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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[stan via users]

On Wed, 18 May 2022 22:32:49 -0700
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> It's a common convention used in the rpm packaging to indicate what 
> you're needing instead of specifying a specific package.  The
> required "library" (or whatever) could move to another package and it
> wouldn't matter.  But it's just as useful when you know you need a
> certain dependency, but don't know which package it is.  And yes, you
> do have to quote them, at least if you're using bash.
> 
> Random examples:
> # rpm -q --provides perl-bignum
> 
> perl(Math::BigFloat::Trace) = 0.60
> 
> perl(Math::BigInt::Trace) = 0.60
> 
> perl(bigint) = 0.60
> 
> perl(bignum) = 0.60
> 
> perl(bigrat) = 0.60
> 
> 
> # rpm -q --provides openssl-devel
> 
> pkgconfig(libcrypto) = 1.1.1n
> 
> pkgconfig(libssl) = 1.1.1n
> 
> pkgconfig(openssl) = 1.1.1n
> 
> 
> For Java, you would use the "mvn()" notation if you know the Java 
> package name (Maven dependency) you're looking for:
> # dnf install "mvn(com.ongres.scram:client)"
> Package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch is already installed.

Thanks for the explanation.
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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[Robert McBroom via users]

On 5/19/22 01:32, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have 
libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.


Tried manual install on F35 system

sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math

and got this strange result

Error:
Problem: conflicting requests
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b

ut none of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but

none of the providers can be installed
  - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none

of the providers can be installed
  - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out 
by modular filtering


What are these missing requirements?


There is only one missing dependency here.  The whole chain comes down 
to that last line.  According to a man page, that most likely 
indicates that some module is overriding that package.


What does "dnf module list --enabled" show? 

# dnf module list --enabled
Last metadata expiration check: 2:06:42 ago on Thu 19 May 2022 06:24:39 
AM EDT.

@modulefailsafe
Name   Stream    Profiles Summary
ant    1.10 [e]  default  Java build tool
maven  3.5 [e]   default  Java project management and 
project comprehension tool


Hint: [d]efault, [e]nabled, [x]disabled, [i]nstalled

No modules show as installed. I don't use apache that I know about 
unless some components are pulled by other rpm.


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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/18/22 07:31, stan via users wrote:

Caveat: I don't understand the rpm package naming convention with
parentheses, like mvn(com.ongres.scram:client).  They don't work on the
command line without escaping the parens, and I'm not sure what
information they are conveying.  The explanation of this was not


It's a common convention used in the rpm packaging to indicate what 
you're needing instead of specifying a specific package.  The required 
"library" (or whatever) could move to another package and it wouldn't 
matter.  But it's just as useful when you know you need a certain 
dependency, but don't know which package it is.  And yes, you do have to 
quote them, at least if you're using bash.


Random examples:
# rpm -q --provides perl-bignum

perl(Math::BigFloat::Trace) = 0.60

perl(Math::BigInt::Trace) = 0.60

perl(bigint) = 0.60

perl(bignum) = 0.60

perl(bigrat) = 0.60


# rpm -q --provides openssl-devel

pkgconfig(libcrypto) = 1.1.1n

pkgconfig(libssl) = 1.1.1n

pkgconfig(openssl) = 1.1.1n


For Java, you would use the "mvn()" notation if you know the Java 
package name (Maven dependency) you're looking for:

# dnf install "mvn(com.ongres.scram:client)"
Package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch is already installed.
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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/17/22 21:16, Robert McBroom via users wrote:
Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have 
libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.


Tried manual install on F35 system

sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math

and got this strange result

Error:
Problem: conflicting requests
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b

ut none of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non

e of the providers can be installed
  - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but

none of the providers can be installed
  - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none

of the providers can be installed
  - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by 
modular filtering


What are these missing requirements?


There is only one missing dependency here.  The whole chain comes down 
to that last line.  According to a man page, that most likely indicates 
that some module is overriding that package.


What does "dnf module list --enabled" show?
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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[Robert McBroom via users]

On 5/18/22 10:31, stan via users wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:12 -0400
Robert McBroom via users  wrote:


Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have
libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.

Tried manual install on F35 system

sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math

and got this strange result

Error:
Problem: conflicting requests
   - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p
roviders can be installed
   - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p
roviders can be installed
   - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non
e of the providers can be installed
   - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non
e of the providers can be installed
   - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires
mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b
ut none of the providers can be installed
   - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires
mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non
e of the providers can be installed
   - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires
mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but
none of the providers can be installed
   - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires
mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none
of the providers can be installed
   - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out
by modular filtering

What are these missing requirements?

They appear to be java requirements.  From reading the fedora-devel
list, java is in trouble on fedora.  Its development model doesn't fit
well with the way that fedora packages applications (it has lots of
binary blobs of questionable heritage), and so it runs afoul of the 'all
packages must be built from source' requirement. For what it is worth,
I have the libreoffice-base packages installed without using modules
running rawhide, and there don't appear to be any dependency issues.
It seems that there is a dependency problem in f35; either generally or
for your particular configuration.

I wonder if you have a dependency problem between modules and packages.
On my system, I have modules turned off for that very reason.  Is it
possible you have an obsolete module installed, and it is blocking a
package update?

Caveat: I don't understand the rpm package naming convention with
parentheses, like mvn(com.ongres.scram:client).  They don't work on the
command line without escaping the parens, and I'm not sure what
information they are conveying.  The explanation of this was not
available when I tried a search for it; it was all using the simple
naming conventions I am familiar with.  And the use of modules is only
theoretical for me.  So, I might not be the best person to answer your
question.  Can hope there is someone else who groks this problem and
responds.


Don't have any modules installed that I know about. Some of the 
scientific codes I use have used Java for data display purposes so it is 
installed. The change in package naming totally confuses me. Does dnf 
understand these names or are we into the proliferation of package managers?


From the fore-mentioned thread F36 seems to install but there could 
have been configuration differences.

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Re: LibreOffice Base questions

[stan via users]

On Wed, 18 May 2022 00:16:12 -0400
Robert McBroom via users  wrote:

> Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have 
> libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.
> 
> Tried manual install on F35 system
> 
> sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math
> 
> and got this strange result
> 
> Error:
> Problem: conflicting requests
>   - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
> postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p
> roviders can be installed
>   - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
> postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p
> roviders can be installed
>   - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires 
> mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non
> e of the providers can be installed
>   - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires 
> mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non
> e of the providers can be installed
>   - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
> mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b
> ut none of the providers can be installed
>   - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
> mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non
> e of the providers can be installed
>   - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires 
> mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but
> none of the providers can be installed
>   - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires 
> mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none
> of the providers can be installed
>   - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out
> by modular filtering
> 
> What are these missing requirements?

They appear to be java requirements.  From reading the fedora-devel
list, java is in trouble on fedora.  Its development model doesn't fit
well with the way that fedora packages applications (it has lots of
binary blobs of questionable heritage), and so it runs afoul of the 'all
packages must be built from source' requirement. For what it is worth,
I have the libreoffice-base packages installed without using modules
running rawhide, and there don't appear to be any dependency issues.
It seems that there is a dependency problem in f35; either generally or
for your particular configuration.

I wonder if you have a dependency problem between modules and packages.
On my system, I have modules turned off for that very reason.  Is it
possible you have an obsolete module installed, and it is blocking a
package update?  

Caveat: I don't understand the rpm package naming convention with
parentheses, like mvn(com.ongres.scram:client).  They don't work on the
command line without escaping the parens, and I'm not sure what
information they are conveying.  The explanation of this was not
available when I tried a search for it; it was all using the simple
naming conventions I am familiar with.  And the use of modules is only
theoretical for me.  So, I might not be the best person to answer your
question.  Can hope there is someone else who groks this problem and
responds.
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LibreOffice Base questions

[Robert McBroom via users]

Followed the thread on libreoffice-base and noted that I did not have 
libreoffice-base and libreoffice-math installed.


Tried manual install on F35 system

sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-math

and got this strange result

Error:
Problem: conflicting requests
 - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.1.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
 - package libreoffice-base-1:7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64 requires 
postgresql-jdbc, but none of the p

roviders can be installed
 - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.23-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
 - package postgresql-jdbc-42.2.25-1.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:client), but non

e of the providers can be installed
 - package ongres-scram-client-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.scram:common) = 2.1, b

ut none of the providers can be installed
 - package ongres-scram-2.1-3.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(com.ongres.stringprep:saslprep), but non

e of the providers can be installed
 - package ongres-stringprep-1.1-2.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.velocity:velocity), but

none of the providers can be installed
 - package velocity-1.7-36.fc35.noarch requires 
mvn(org.apache.commons:commons-lang3), but none

of the providers can be installed
 - package apache-commons-lang3-3.12.0-3.fc35.noarch is filtered out by 
modular filtering


What are these missing requirements?
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Tim via users]

On Sun, 2022-05-15 at 10:30 -0800, Fred wrote:
> I had to manually install the optional packages

Likewise.  The ones people commonly want, and are required for them to
run are a basic installation.

It will probably change depending on which spin you install.  One might
use the basic defaults, another might include more things for you.
 
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Joe Zeff]

On 5/15/22 12:30, Fred wrote:

So, it seems that at some point libreoffice-base must be manually
installed to be part of an individual computers libreoffice package.


I sit corrected.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Fred]

On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:55:13 -0600
Joe Zeff  wrote:

> > I have XFCE and Libre office installed and indeed, Libreoffice Base
> > is working I just started it from the start menu and it opened up
> > normally. And I do not recall ever using it, I just install
> > libreoffice whenever I upgrade.  
> 
> When you install libreoffice, you get all of it automatically.  Go to 
> your Applications menu and open up the Office sub-menu and you'll see 
> six programs who's names start with LibreOffice.
> ___

I installed my version of Fedora 36 as a fresh install from the live
beta MATE iso. The resultant libreoffice programs were as listed below
with none of the optional packages installed:

[fred@acer-f36 ~]$ dnf group info libreoffice
Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:14 ago on Sun 15 May 2022 09:54:54
AM AKDT. Group: LibreOffice
 Description: LibreOffice Productivity Suite
 Mandatory Packages:
   libreoffice-calc
   libreoffice-emailmerge
   libreoffice-graphicfilter
   libreoffice-impress
   libreoffice-writer
 Optional Packages:
   libreoffice-base
   libreoffice-draw
   libreoffice-math
   libreoffice-pyuno

I had to manually install the optional packages:

[fred@acer-f36 ~]$ sudo dnf install libreoffice-base libreoffice-draw
libreoffice-math

So, it seems that at some point libreoffice-base must be manually
installed to be part of an individual computers libreoffice package.

Fred
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Joe Zeff]

On 5/15/22 09:28, Javier Perez wrote:
I have XFCE and Libre office installed and indeed, Libreoffice Base is 
working I just started it from the start menu and it opened up normally. 
And I do not recall ever using it, I just install libreoffice whenever I 
upgrade.


When you install libreoffice, you get all of it automatically.  Go to 
your Applications menu and open up the Office sub-menu and you'll see 
six programs who's names start with LibreOffice.

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Javier Perez]

I have XFCE and Libre office installed and indeed, Libreoffice Base is
working I just started it from the start menu and it opened up normally.
And I do not recall ever using it, I just install libreoffice whenever I
upgrade.

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 11:51 AM Robert Moskowitz 
wrote:

>
>
> On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:
> > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz 
> wrote:
> >> I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with
> >> LibreOffice installed.  When I go to a running instance of Calc, and
> >>  -> New, Base Database is NOT an option.  Like it is just not
> >> linked in
> >>
> >> Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
> > I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base
> > is greyed-out.  dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't
> > installed with the rest of LO.
>
> Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
>
> Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not)
> for them?
>
> Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and
> restart LO?
>
> I HATE rebooting.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robin Laing]

On 2022-05-01 19:31, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also 
use it on her Windows system using Access.


So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base 
is what I want.


So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

thanks
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I tried a different approach since I use base and have for years.

I tried to uninstall it and see what it wanted to remove.

dnf erase libreoffice-base
pam_mount password:
Dependencies resolved.

 Package  Architecture 
Version


Removing:
 libreoffice-basex86_641:7.2.6.2-1.fc35 


Removing dependent packages:
 libreoffice x86_641:7.2.6.2-1.fc35 


Removing unused dependencies:
 firebirdx86_644.0.0.2496-5.fc35 

 firebird-utils  x86_644.0.0.2496-5.fc35 

 flute   noarch1.3.0-26.OOo31.fc35 

 libbase noarch1.1.3-30.fc35 

 libfbclient2x86_644.0.0.2496-5.fc35 

 libfontsnoarch1.1.3-34.fc35 

 libformula  noarch1.1.3-31.fc35 

 libib-util  x86_644.0.0.2496-5.fc35 

 liblayout   noarch0.2.10-25.fc35 

 libloader   noarch1.1.3-32.fc35 

 libreoffice-emailmerge  x86_641:7.2.6.2-1.fc35 

 librepository   noarch1.1.3-31.fc35 

 libserializer   noarch1.1.2-30.fc35 

 pentaho-libxml  noarch1.1.3-30.fc35 

 pentaho-reporting-flow-engine   noarch1:0.9.4-24.fc35 

 postgresql-jdbc noarch42.2.25-1.fc35 

 sac noarch1.3-36.fc35 



Transaction Summary

Remove  19 Packages


Maybe there is a package that from this list that is missing.

I have has some issues and found that if I tried to do something in a 
different account they work.  Something in my own account prevents it 
from working properly.  Maybe an old configuration setting of some sort.


Robin
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robin Laing]

On 2022-05-02 09:27, jarmo wrote:

Mon, 2 May 2022 09:54:05 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  kirjoitti:



A long list of all the files and directories in the current
directory...

Nothing else that I caught.


When I type libreoffice in console, libreoffice opens, have you all
rights ok.
And which libreoffice
/usr/bin/libreoffice

Jarmo
Mine opens me into a generic window with a list of recent files and a 
menu on the side with the ability to create a new:

Writer Document
Calc Spreadsheet
Impress Presentation
Draw Drawing
Math Formula
Base Database
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Re: [OT] LibreOffice Base?

[Tim via users]

On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 12:58 -0800, Fred wrote:
> Is it even possible to create an Access Database using Linux?
> Especially anything that could be kept in sync? Importing tables and
> queries is one thing but for using day to day??

On that kind of thing, a commercial application has zero interest in
supporting anything else but their product, and will probably make it
deliberately hard, or impossible, to do it any other way.  They want as
many paying customers as possible, they don't want to lose them to
anything else.

Is it a case of the database has to be Access, or is it just continuing
to use that product for inertia reasons?

If it has to be Access, and has to work without surprise failures
(third-party interfaces to proprietary software are often incomplete or
buggy), the simplest solution is probably to run their software in an
emulator or virtual installation.

If it doesn't have to be Access, then now's the opportunity to work
with something that is directly usable on all your computer systems,
something that doesn't hold you captive to the claws of commercial
products.

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Tim via users]

On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 08:48 -0700, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
> The Flatpak works across all supported Fedora versions - you don’t
> have to update trailing versions of Fedora for people to use the
> newest application version.

The same can be said about RPMs:  They work across all supported
versions, and don't work on the unsupported ones.  It's a nonsense
argument.

I can't say this about flatpaks, but I've definitely come across
appimages that cannot be used on a release, because it wasn't
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Kenneth Marcy]

On 5/2/22 15:28, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/2/22 11:30, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
I include this link because it includes reminders to insure that the 
system itself is up-to-date, and it features the Flatpak installation 
process that now seems to be preferred for Fedora systems.  Whichever 


I don't know why you think that Flatpak is "preferred" now.  The RPMs 
are kept up to date and work great.  And a native installation will 
generally work better than something like flatpak.



I got this idea from the Fedora documentation. For example,


 Flatpak

Flatpaks  are a new way of deploying applications. 
If you have an application already packaged as a Fedora package, 
creating Flatpak offers a number of advantages:


 *

   The application can be safely updated without rebooting the system
   (you can update a package without rebooting your system using dnf
   from the command line, of course, but GNOME Software only offers
   updating applications as part of an offline system update.)

 *

   The application can seamlessly be installed on Fedora Silverblue

 *

   The Flatpak works across all supported Fedora versions - you don’t
   have to update trailing versions of Fedora for people to use the
   newest application version.

 *

   The Flatpak can be run by people running on other distributions


Fedora Flatpaks builds from existing Fedora packages to ensure that 
everything remains free and open source and complies with Fedora’s 
standards.


Technically speaking, Fedora Flatpaks reuses existing RPMs from the 
Fedora Linux repositories and converts them to Flatpak applications 
using several tools.



These Flatpak notes are taken from : 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/flatpak/


and from https://fedoramagazine.org/an-introduction-to-fedora-flatpaks/

Notice there are no caveats or cautions concerning flatpaks.  In contrast,


 RPM

The *RPM Package Manager* only works with packages built in the *RPM 
format*. *RPM* itself is provided as the pre-installed *rpm* package. 
For the end user, *RPM* makes system updates easy. Installing, 
uninstalling, and upgrading *RPM* packages can be accomplished with 
short commands. *RPM* maintains a database of installed packages and 
their files, so you can make queries and verify installed files on your 
system. There are several applications, such as *DNF* or *PackageKit*, 
that can make working with packages in the *RPM* format even easier.


*Warning*



Use DNF Instead of RPM Whenever Possible

For most package-management tasks, the *DNF* package manager offers 
equal and often greater capabilities and utility than *RPM*. *DNF* also 
performs and tracks complicated system-dependency resolutions. *DNF* 
maintains the system integrity and forces a system integrity check if 
packages are installed or removed using another application, such as 
*RPM*, instead of *DNF*. For these reasons, it is highly recommended 
that you use *DNF* instead of *RPM* whenever possible to perform 
package-management tasks. See DNF 
.


If you prefer a graphical interface, you can use the *PackageKit* GUI 
application, which uses *DNF* as its back end, to manage your system’s 
packages.





Note

Because *RPM* can make changes to the system itself, performing 
operations like installing, upgrading, downgrading, and uninstalling 
binary packages system-wide requires |root| privileges in most cases.



These RPM quotes come from the Fedora User Docs / System Administrator's 
Guide



I do recognize that RPMs are a time-honored file and package management 
system that has over a quarter of a century of service with Red Hat 
Linux code, and that users and developers have extended and improved the 
technology during that time. None the less, competing technologies, such 
as flatpaks, have grown and matured from the works of many Linux developers.


 Flatpaks have been available in Fedora since release 23, and 
considering the current release is 37, one may reasonably call flatpaks 
native code.




Ken

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The migration mistake, again. Was: LibreOffice Base?

[M. Fioretti]

Thanks to Samuel Sieb and to Fred, who in the tens of replies so far
to a request about LibreOffice Base seem the only ones to have noticed
that the OP had two almost completely unrelated issues, not one. The
first is some LO installation problem. The other is the REAL issue,
and the REAL, REALLY important question the OP asked, maybe
unconsciously, is a deeply different one:

Samuel Sieb:

> ...even if you do get this working, I don't think it's going to
> solve your original question.  You can't create an Access database
> with LibreOffice and even accessing one is very complicated,
> probably requiring third-party components.  (It might be easier if
> you're running LibreOffice on Windows.)

Fred:

> Is it even possible to create an Access Database using Linux?
> Especially anything that could be kept in sync? Importing tables and
> queries is one thing but for using day to day??

Here is how I would have answered the same question:

> The question “How do I replace Microsoft Access?” appears on the
> OpenOffice.org mailing list every other week. Every time [many
> solutions are posted but] nobody - starting from the
> original poster - understands what is really being asked..."

Continues here, please note WHEN it was first written, and about what:

https://stop.zona-m.net/2002/12/hooray-for-bluecurve/

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Jerry James]

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 3:43 AM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> saved me asking this basic question.  :)
>
> Typed it into a Terminal window and...
>
> Nothing.
>
> Just came back with the command prompt.
>
> :(

If all else fails, and it sounds like it has, here's a technique I
have used to find out why something fails to launch.  Install strace
("sudo dnf install strace").  Then run this command in a terminal:

strace -ff -o oobase -s 1024 oobase

When that exits, you will have 1 or more files with names of the form
oobase. in the current directory.  One of them may have a clue
as to what is going on.  Upload them somewhere, and I'll take a look
to see if the cause is apparent.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Dave Stevens via users]

On Tue, 03 May 2022 09:11:59 +0930
Tim via users  wrote:

> There also seems to be a misunderstanding of "base" along the thread. 
> LibreOffice is the core of a system, so to speak, libreoffice-base is
> a database interface that it can use.

yes, and I see no real reason to think it's a fedora-specific issue.
Why not ask on a LO list?

d

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Tim via users]

On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 11:30 -0700, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
> My first thought is to do a general tidying up of the software by 
> uninstalling, then reinstalling a fresh copy of the latest version
> of the code.  Of course, before doing any such work, one should make
> a safe copy of all of the types of files with which LibreOffice is
> concerned -- documents, spreadsheets, drawings, presentations, etc.,
> to another part of the system's storage structure.  It's a good idea
> to verify that sufficient storage space is available so no untoward
> surprises present themselves.

In general, the remove and reinstall mantra coming from Windows users
doesn't fix anything.  You're back at square one unless something
surprisingly failed to install the first time around, and did so
without any kind of error warning.  Or you'd somehow removed just a
section of it later on.

It's most likely that things were properly installed the first time,
and repeating the same process isn't going to change anything.  It's a
rarity that such commonly used things have installation problems, they
get noticed very quickly.  That's the kind of thing more likely with
obscure programs that almost no-one uses.

Of course there's no harm in trying, but it rarely fixes anything.

Also, your own files (documents, etc) are not affected in any way by
uninstalling or installing applications.  Your files are stored in your
own homespace, not in the middle of any program files.  And uninstall
routines only uninstall program files.

There also seems to be a misunderstanding of "base" along the thread. 
LibreOffice is the core of a system, so to speak, libreoffice-base is a
database interface that it can use.

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/2/22 06:55, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

libreoffice-base-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64


I have the same version and running "oobase" from the terminal or 
selecting the application icon both work.  There must be something 
specific to your system.  The lack of any messages on the terminal 
suggests that something is already running.  Try closing all your 
LibreOffice windows then try again.


But even if you do get this working, I don't think it's going to solve 
your original question.  You can't create an Access database with 
LibreOffice and even accessing one is very complicated, probably 
requiring third-party components.  (It might be easier if you're running 
LibreOffice on Windows.)

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/2/22 11:30, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
I include this link because it includes reminders to insure that the 
system itself is up-to-date, and it features the Flatpak installation 
process that now seems to be preferred for Fedora systems.  Whichever 


I don't know why you think that Flatpak is "preferred" now.  The RPMs 
are kept up to date and work great.  And a native installation will 
generally work better than something like flatpak.

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[OT] LibreOffice Base?

[Fred]

For years I maintained an Access data base for an organization I
belonged to. The way that worked best for me was to run Windows with
Access in a VM on my Fedora machine. That way, I could copy and past
from LibreOffice to Access for any additions and updates needed.

I re-read the 1st post to this thread and it sounds like you want to
"create an Access Database on F35 so my wife can use it also" Would it
work for you to create a Libreoffice Base file on your F35 system
and then install LibreOffice Base on her Windows computer?

Is it even possible to create an Access Database using Linux?
Especially anything that could be kept in sync? Importing tables and
queries is one thing but for using day to day??

Fred
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Kenneth Marcy]

On 5/2/22 09:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/2/22 11:34, Kenneth Marcy wrote:


On 5/2/22 05:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:


On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can
also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?


Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve 
interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.


I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed.  I use Write, Calc, 
and Impress on a regular basis.  Interesting that Base is not 
installed when you do your Fedora Install and select to install the 
LIbreOffice Office suite.



I am under the impression that the standard LibreOffice installation 
does install all of the modules. When I go to the menu application in 
this Linux distribution, it lists office as one line item.  Sliding 
the mouse over that item expands it to a list of many items, the top 
five of which are LilbreOffice, then LibreOffice Write, Calc, Impress 
and Draw, in that order. LIbreOffice Base is not listed.  However, if 
I choose to launch the first item, LibreOffice, without a specific 
application mentioned, LO opens to show an area of recent documents 
icons on the right, and a list of six applications, including Math 
Formulas and Base database, on the left.  Clicking on Base opens a 
wizard that allows me to either create a new database, open an 
existing database in this machine, or connect to another database on 
another machine.  After choosing, for example, to create a new 
database, another screen appears offering whether or not to register 
the database with LO, and whether to save the database for editing to 
create tables using the table wizard. Clicking Finish opens the Base 
application for work on the open file.


No command lines are involved in this process.

I suggest you check your machine's application menu for a LibreOffice 
item that does not mention a specific application, then open that to 
see if the Base application is listed.  If it is, the proceed as 
above from there.  If it is not, I suggest you update all of LO to 
the latest version, either from Fedora, or the LibreOffice web site.


I have been running the Xfce desktop for lots of years of using 
Fedora.  Maybe at least back to Fedora 20.


I have always installed LibreOffice during the base installation. The 
database component has NEVER been included to the best of my 
recollection.  There were a couple times I wanted to work with an 
Access database, and since Base was not installed, I just switched to 
a Win system.


So I have never used Base for all these years.  Only now trying.

I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with 
LibreOffice installed.  When I go to a running instance of Calc, and 
 -> New, Base Database is NOT an option.  Like it is just not 
linked in


Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?

:(



I would not jump to the conclusion that it is a generic problem with all 
of LibreOffice and Xfce.  If it were, I think we would have heard about 
it before now.


However, there may be some unique characteristics of your system's 
installation of the software.


My first thought is to do a general tidying up of the software by 
uninstalling, then reinstalling a fresh copy of the latest version of 
the code.  Of course, before doing any such work, one should make a safe 
copy of all of the types of files with which LibreOffice is concerned -- 
documents, spreadsheets, drawings, presentations, etc., to another part 
of the system's storage structure.  It's a good idea to verify that 
sufficient storage space is available so no untoward surprises present 
themselves.


Here is a link to a recent set of instructions about how to go about 
doing a fresh installation of LibreOffice on Fedora 35.


https://www.linuxcapable.com/install-libreoffice-on-fedora-linux-35/

I include this link because it includes reminders to insure that the 
system itself is up-to-date, and it features the Flatpak installation 
process that now seems to be preferred for Fedora systems.  Whichever 
installation method is used for LibreOffice, it should be an established 
electronic system method because LibreOffice is a large and complex set 
of software that it discourages manual installation.







LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files 
(.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).


I have done .CSV.



Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file 
formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO 
Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide t

Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Joe Zeff]

On 5/2/22 10:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...

Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) 
for them?




I do.  I opened up Base from the Main Menu and the Wizard came right up.

Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and 
restart LO?


I HATE rebooting.


So do I.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[ja]

On Mon, 2022-05-02 at 12:50 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:
> > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz  
> > wrote:
> > > I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with
> > > LibreOffice installed.  When I go to a running instance of Calc, and
> > >  -> New, Base Database is NOT an option.  Like it is just not
> > > linked in
> > > 
> > > Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
> > I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base
> > is greyed-out.  dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't
> > installed with the rest of LO.
> 
> Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
> 
> Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) 
> for them?
> 
> Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and 
> restart LO?
> 
> I HATE rebooting.
> 
I have replied with a screen dump but it is being moderated.
I repeat the words here and further info

"F35 XFCE spin fully updated from a new install (when F35 was released)

Running the command "libreoffice" from a terminal window and selecting
Base Database gives me the attached image."


LO opens with thumb nails of previous documents.
In the left hand column the option "Base Database is active.

Selection this opens the LO Database Wizard, ...

John

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Michael D. Setzer II via users]

Think there is a misunderstanding of how libreoffice base 
works. It isn't a full database, but has options  to link to 
various databases. Only tired it a few times and its been a 
while. I was using mariadb that was already running on 
my machine. 

On my Fedora 34 machine, it has the base under the 
office link in XFCE menu.
It comes up with option to use HSQLDB Embedded. Don't 
have mariadb running on this notebook.
libreoffice --base does the same thing from command line.

Wish I had used it recently, but have had it work.
Forget all the details.

Have 7.2 and 7.3 also installed, and they give same 
results
libreoffice7.2 --base
libreoffice7.3 --base


On 2 May 2022 at 12:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 2 May 2022 12:50:56 -0400
Subject:    Re: LibreOffice Base?
To: Community support for Fedora users 
,
Go Canes 
From:   Robert Moskowitz 
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora 
users 

> 
> 
> On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:
> > On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz  
> > wrote:
> >> I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with
> >> LibreOffice installed.  When I go to a running instance of Calc, and
> >>  -> New, Base Database is NOT an option.  Like it is just not
> >> linked in
> >>
> >> Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?
> > I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base
> > is greyed-out.  dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't
> > installed with the rest of LO.
> 
> Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...
> 
> Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) 
> for them?
> 
> Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and 
> restart LO?
> 
> I HATE rebooting.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 12:29, Go Canes wrote:

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with
LibreOffice installed.  When I go to a running instance of Calc, and
 -> New, Base Database is NOT an option.  Like it is just not
linked in

Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?

I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base
is greyed-out.  dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't
installed with the rest of LO.


Almost sounds like Base needs something that is not in Xfce...

Who else here is using Xfce and might check to see how it works (or not) 
for them?


Or maybe I have first shut down all open instances and then reboot and 
restart LO?


I HATE rebooting.

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Go Canes]

On Mon, May 2, 2022 at 12:13 PM Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with
> LibreOffice installed.  When I go to a running instance of Calc, and
>  -> New, Base Database is NOT an option.  Like it is just not
> linked in
>
> Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?

I use LibreOffice and KDE - if I launch LO from the command line, Base
is greyed-out.  dnf shows it as an available package, so it wasn't
installed with the rest of LO.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 11:34, Kenneth Marcy wrote:


On 5/2/22 05:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:


On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can
also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?


Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve 
interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.


I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed.  I use Write, Calc, 
and Impress on a regular basis.  Interesting that Base is not 
installed when you do your Fedora Install and select to install the 
LIbreOffice Office suite.



I am under the impression that the standard LibreOffice installation 
does install all of the modules. When I go to the menu application in 
this Linux distribution, it lists office as one line item.  Sliding 
the mouse over that item expands it to a list of many items, the top 
five of which are LilbreOffice, then LibreOffice Write, Calc, Impress 
and Draw, in that order. LIbreOffice Base is not listed.  However, if 
I choose to launch the first item, LibreOffice, without a specific 
application mentioned, LO opens to show an area of recent documents 
icons on the right, and a list of six applications, including Math 
Formulas and Base database, on the left.  Clicking on Base opens a 
wizard that allows me to either create a new database, open an 
existing database in this machine, or connect to another database on 
another machine.  After choosing, for example, to create a new 
database, another screen appears offering whether or not to register 
the database with LO, and whether to save the database for editing to 
create tables using the table wizard.  Clicking Finish opens the Base 
application for work on the open file.


No command lines are involved in this process.

I suggest you check your machine's application menu for a LibreOffice 
item that does not mention a specific application, then open that to 
see if the Base application is listed.  If it is, the proceed as above 
from there.  If it is not, I suggest you update all of LO to the 
latest version, either from Fedora, or the LibreOffice web site.


I have been running the Xfce desktop for lots of years of using Fedora.  
Maybe at least back to Fedora 20.


I have always installed LibreOffice during the base installation. The 
database component has NEVER been included to the best of my 
recollection.  There were a couple times I wanted to work with an Access 
database, and since Base was not installed, I just switched to a Win system.


So I have never used Base for all these years.  Only now trying.

I have never seen Base listed in the Xfce Application selector with 
LibreOffice installed.  When I go to a running instance of Calc, and 
 -> New, Base Database is NOT an option.  Like it is just not 
linked in


Is this a Xfce/LibreOffice problem?

:(







LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files 
(.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).


I have done .CSV.



Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file 
formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO 
Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to 
LO Base to use.


LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and 
export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive 
appropriately formatted table files.


Humph.  This may take rethinking, as I will be expected to 'help' at 
times, and I can't keep importing and exporting.



Perhaps the rethinking will involve a virtual machine on your hardware 
within which is running Windows and Access, and appropriate network 
access between your and your wife's machine.


Might as well just use a Win system.

But what is with Base???

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 11:27, jarmo wrote:

Mon, 2 May 2022 09:54:05 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  kirjoitti:



A long list of all the files and directories in the current
directory...

Nothing else that I caught.

When I type libreoffice in console, libreoffice opens, have you all
rights ok.
And which libreoffice
/usr/bin/libreoffice


That is what I have.  When I enter libreoffice, it just switches me to 
whatever was the last viewed open instance of Libreoffice.  Which right 
now is a spreadsheet in Calc.


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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Kenneth Marcy]

On 5/2/22 05:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:


On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can
also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?


Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve 
interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.


I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed.  I use Write, Calc, and 
Impress on a regular basis.  Interesting that Base is not installed 
when you do your Fedora Install and select to install the LIbreOffice 
Office suite.



I am under the impression that the standard LibreOffice installation 
does install all of the modules. When I go to the menu application in 
this Linux distribution, it lists office as one line item.  Sliding the 
mouse over that item expands it to a list of many items, the top five of 
which are LilbreOffice, then LibreOffice Write, Calc, Impress and Draw, 
in that order. LIbreOffice Base is not listed.  However, if I choose to 
launch the first item, LibreOffice, without a specific application 
mentioned, LO opens to show an area of recent documents icons on the 
right, and a list of six applications, including Math Formulas and Base 
database, on the left.  Clicking on Base opens a wizard that allows me 
to either create a new database, open an existing database in this 
machine, or connect to another database on another machine.  After 
choosing, for example, to create a new database, another screen appears 
offering whether or not to register the database with LO, and whether to 
save the database for editing to create tables using the table wizard.  
Clicking Finish opens the Base application for work on the open file.


No command lines are involved in this process.

I suggest you check your machine's application menu for a LibreOffice 
item that does not mention a specific application, then open that to see 
if the Base application is listed.  If it is, the proceed as above from 
there.  If it is not, I suggest you update all of LO to the latest 
version, either from Fedora, or the LibreOffice web site.





LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files 
(.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).


I have done .CSV.



Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file 
formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO 
Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to 
LO Base to use.


LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and 
export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive 
appropriately formatted table files.


Humph.  This may take rethinking, as I will be expected to 'help' at 
times, and I can't keep importing and exporting.



Perhaps the rethinking will involve a virtual machine on your hardware 
within which is running Windows and Access, and appropriate network 
access between your and your wife's machine.




Ken



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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[jarmo]

Mon, 2 May 2022 09:54:05 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  kirjoitti:


> A long list of all the files and directories in the current
> directory...
> 
> Nothing else that I caught.

When I type libreoffice in console, libreoffice opens, have you all
rights ok.
And which libreoffice
/usr/bin/libreoffice

Jarmo
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 08:41, Jon Ingason via users wrote:

Den 2022-05-02 kl. 14:14, skrev Robert Moskowitz:



On 5/2/22 06:04, Dave Stevens via users wrote:

On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:

2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz :

I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife
can also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only
executable file in libreoffice-base.

saved me asking this basic question.  :)

Typed it into a Terminal window and...

Nothing.

Just came back with the command prompt.

:(

what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base


[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base
bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base
[rgm@lx140e ~]$

No dice.  May be time to open a bug report???


What does

$ rpm -qa|grep ^libreoffice

give you?


$ rpm -qa|grep ^libreoffice
libreoffice-data-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.noarch
libreoffice-ure-common-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.noarch
libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.noarch
libreoffice-help-en-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-gtk3-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-ure-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-x11-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-core-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-langpack-en-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-pyuno-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-pdfimport-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-writer-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-graphicfilter-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-ogltrans-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-impress-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-emailmerge-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-calc-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64
libreoffice-base-7.2.6.2-1.fc35.x86_64

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 09:21, Tim via users wrote:

Dave Stevens:

what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base

Robert Moskowitz:

[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base
bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base
[rgm@lx140e ~]$

No dice.  May be time to open a bug report???


I would try typing the beginning of the word libreoffice and double-
tapping TAB to see what it fills in.  On my non-Fedora system, it's
simply libreoffice, & no version numbers added to the command name.
  

A long list of all the files and directories in the current directory...

Nothing else that I caught.

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

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Dave Stevens:
>> what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base

Robert Moskowitz:
> [rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base
> bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found
> [rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base
> [rgm@lx140e ~]$
> 
> No dice.  May be time to open a bug report???


I would try typing the beginning of the word libreoffice and double-
tapping TAB to see what it fills in.  On my non-Fedora system, it's
simply libreoffice, & no version numbers added to the command name.
 
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Jon Ingason via users]

Den 2022-05-02 kl. 14:14, skrev Robert Moskowitz:



On 5/2/22 06:04, Dave Stevens via users wrote:

On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:

2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz :

I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife
can also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only
executable file in libreoffice-base.

saved me asking this basic question.  :)

Typed it into a Terminal window and...

Nothing.

Just came back with the command prompt.

:(

what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base


[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base
bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base
[rgm@lx140e ~]$

No dice.  May be time to open a bug report???


What does

$ rpm -qa|grep ^libreoffice

give you?
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 06:04, Dave Stevens via users wrote:

On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:

2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz :

I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife
can also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only
executable file in libreoffice-base.

saved me asking this basic question.  :)

Typed it into a Terminal window and...

Nothing.

Just came back with the command prompt.

:(

what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base


[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice7.3 --base
bash: libreoffice7.3: command not found
[rgm@lx140e ~]$ libreoffice --base
[rgm@lx140e ~]$

No dice.  May be time to open a bug report???

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 08:03, Kenneth Marcy wrote:


On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can
also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?


Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve 
interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.


I have, I think, all of LibreOffice installed.  I use Write, Calc, and 
Impress on a regular basis.  Interesting that Base is not installed when 
you do your Fedora Install and select to install the LIbreOffice Office 
suite.





LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files 
(.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).


I have done .CSV.



Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file 
formats to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO 
Calc in a format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to LO 
Base to use.


LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and 
export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive 
appropriately formatted table files.


Humph.  This may take rethinking, as I will be expected to 'help' at 
times, and I can't keep importing and exporting.






Ken

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Kenneth Marcy]

On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can
also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?


Yes. You need to install all of LibreOffice so you can achieve 
interaction between LO Calc and LO Base.


LO Calc has the ability to import and export comma separated files 
(.CSV) and dBase files (.DBF).


Your wife's Access system can export one of the importable file formats 
to work in LO Base, and then import from Access through LO Calc in a 
format that LO Calc is able to import and then provide to LO Base to use.


LO Base does not appear to have the ability to directly import and 
export the native Access file format, but it can send and receive 
appropriately formatted table files.




Ken

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Dave Stevens via users]

On Mon, 2 May 2022 05:42:51 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

> On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:
> > 2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz :  
> >> I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife
> >> can also use it on her Windows system using Access.
> >>
> >> So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
> >> Base is what I want.
> >>
> >> So I did:
> >>
> >> dnf install libreoffice-base
> >>
> >> which worked, and then tried launching it and
> >>
> >> nothing...
> >>
> >> Any hints on getting this running?  
> > oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only
> > executable file in libreoffice-base.  
> 
> saved me asking this basic question.  :)
> 
> Typed it into a Terminal window and...
> 
> Nothing.
> 
> Just came back with the command prompt.
> 
> :(

what if you try libreoffice7.3 --base 

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/2/22 04:41, Andras Simon wrote:

2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz :

I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also
use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base
is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only
executable file in libreoffice-base.


saved me asking this basic question.  :)

Typed it into a Terminal window and...

Nothing.

Just came back with the command prompt.

:(

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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Andras Simon]

2022-05-02 3:31 UTC+02:00, Robert Moskowitz :
> I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also
> use it on her Windows system using Access.
>
> So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base
> is what I want.
>
> So I did:
>
> dnf install libreoffice-base
>
> which worked, and then tried launching it and
>
> nothing...
>
> Any hints on getting this running?

oobase is what you probably want to start. At least that's the only
executable file in libreoffice-base.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 5/1/22 19:54, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can
also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

thanks

how about this?

https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/BG7.2/BG72-BaseGuide.pdf 



might be overkill but you can't say you weren't told...


well definitely important, but I can't even get it running to reach this 
point.


One might think that the dnf install was all that it SHOULD take to at 
least start the program...


Launch it from the commend line.  Copy back any messages
to us that appear.
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Re: LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 5/1/22 22:01, Dave Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 1 May 2022 21:31:06 -0400
Robert Moskowitz  wrote:


I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can
also use it on her Windows system using Access.

So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice
Base is what I want.

So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

thanks

how about this?

https://documentation.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/Documentation/en/BG7.2/BG72-BaseGuide.pdf

might be overkill but you can't say you weren't told...


well definitely important, but I can't even get it running to reach this 
point.


One might think that the dnf install was all that it SHOULD take to at 
least start the program...


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LibreOffice Base?

[Robert Moskowitz]

I want to create an Access Database on my F35 system so my wife can also 
use it on her Windows system using Access.


So I did a quick bit of googling and found that maybe LibreOffice Base 
is what I want.


So I did:

dnf install libreoffice-base

which worked, and then tried launching it and

nothing...

Any hints on getting this running?

thanks
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F19: LibreOffice-base Maximized

[Craig Goodyear]

Since upgrading from Fedora 18 to Fedora 19, all tables, queries, and 
forms in LibreOffice-base open maximized.  This did not happen with 
Fedora 18.  Current Fedora 19 version:

libreoffice-base-4.1.0.4-5.fc19.x86_64.

Is there a solution or workaround?

Craig
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