Re: Mate desktop, login produces up to ten caja instances

2013-07-24 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:29:30AM -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:22:42PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> > On 07/19/2013 07:32 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > > On F19 with Mate desktop, sometimes after login 8 or 9 or even 10 copies
> > > of Caja (Mate File Manger) are started up.
> > 

Oops. My apologies for the personal note on the list. Nothing revealing,
but simply OT.

Fred


> > Fred,
> > I upgraded a test F17 system to F18 using fedora-upgrade, and it seemed
> > successful.  The next thing I did was to install MATE.  After that I
> > tried to upgrade from nouveau to NVIDIA drivers.  After that I logged in
> > using the MATE desktop, and saw the same as you are seeing.
> > 
> > I googled the issue and discovered that this has been a problem off and
> > on since F16, with various fixes and re-apperance of the problem.  The
> > last resolution of the problem was still in updates-testing on F18 last
> > I looked.
> > 
> > > Most of the time not, but perhaps once every day or two this will happen.
> > > the rest of the time it's completely normal.
> > 
> > IIRC, it happens after the first MATE session login after system
> > startup, though I was not able to limit it to that.  Once it started
> > happening for me, it continued to happen every time I logged out and
> > logged back in again.
> 
> Nope, not for me. just now and then. I hate intermittent software problems! :)
> 
> > 
> > > I found these /var/log/messages entries at around the right time, but I'm
> > > not certain whether they are from login or the boot a small bit earlier:
> > > 
> > > Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus-daemon[556]: dbus[556]: [system] Rejected 
> > > send me
> > > ssage, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 
> > > pid=1410 co
> > > mm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" 
> > > member="GetAll" error
> > >  name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 
> > > comm="/us
> > > r/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")
> > > Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 
> > > matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 
> > > comm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" 
> > > member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" 
> > > destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon 
> > > --no-daemon ")
> > > 
> > > Anybody got any clues?
> > 
> > Check out bugzilla 886029.  It has some information, but not a
> > definitive resolution, just yet
> 
> Thanks, Kevin, I'll do that.
> 
> 
> How's the world treating you these days? I'm "semi-retired", i.e., I
> voluntarily dropped from full-time to two days a week a little over
> two years ago, once I got to where I could get full SS benefits--I
> didn't want to take less than I could get by retiring early. I'm
> enjoying the five-day weekends!
> 
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Re: Mate desktop, login produces up to ten caja instances

2013-07-24 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:22:42PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> On 07/19/2013 07:32 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > On F19 with Mate desktop, sometimes after login 8 or 9 or even 10 copies
> > of Caja (Mate File Manger) are started up.
> 
> Fred,
>   I upgraded a test F17 system to F18 using fedora-upgrade, and it seemed
> successful.  The next thing I did was to install MATE.  After that I
> tried to upgrade from nouveau to NVIDIA drivers.  After that I logged in
> using the MATE desktop, and saw the same as you are seeing.
> 
> I googled the issue and discovered that this has been a problem off and
> on since F16, with various fixes and re-apperance of the problem.  The
> last resolution of the problem was still in updates-testing on F18 last
> I looked.
> 
> > Most of the time not, but perhaps once every day or two this will happen.
> > the rest of the time it's completely normal.
> 
> IIRC, it happens after the first MATE session login after system
> startup, though I was not able to limit it to that.  Once it started
> happening for me, it continued to happen every time I logged out and
> logged back in again.

Nope, not for me. just now and then. I hate intermittent software problems! :)

> 
> > I found these /var/log/messages entries at around the right time, but I'm
> > not certain whether they are from login or the boot a small bit earlier:
> > 
> > Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus-daemon[556]: dbus[556]: [system] Rejected 
> > send me
> > ssage, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 
> > pid=1410 co
> > mm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" 
> > error
> >  name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 
> > comm="/us
> > r/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")
> > Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 
> > matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 
> > comm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" 
> > member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" 
> > destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon 
> > --no-daemon ")
> > 
> > Anybody got any clues?
> 
> Check out bugzilla 886029.  It has some information, but not a
> definitive resolution, just yet

Thanks, Kevin, I'll do that.


How's the world treating you these days? I'm "semi-retired", i.e., I
voluntarily dropped from full-time to two days a week a little over
two years ago, once I got to where I could get full SS benefits--I
didn't want to take less than I could get by retiring early. I'm
enjoying the five-day weekends!

Fred
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Re: Mate desktop, login produces up to ten caja instances

2013-07-23 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 07/19/2013 07:32 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> On F19 with Mate desktop, sometimes after login 8 or 9 or even 10 copies
> of Caja (Mate File Manger) are started up.

Fred,
I upgraded a test F17 system to F18 using fedora-upgrade, and it seemed
successful.  The next thing I did was to install MATE.  After that I
tried to upgrade from nouveau to NVIDIA drivers.  After that I logged in
using the MATE desktop, and saw the same as you are seeing.

I googled the issue and discovered that this has been a problem off and
on since F16, with various fixes and re-apperance of the problem.  The
last resolution of the problem was still in updates-testing on F18 last
I looked.

> Most of the time not, but perhaps once every day or two this will happen.
> the rest of the time it's completely normal.

IIRC, it happens after the first MATE session login after system
startup, though I was not able to limit it to that.  Once it started
happening for me, it continued to happen every time I logged out and
logged back in again.

> I found these /var/log/messages entries at around the right time, but I'm
> not certain whether they are from login or the boot a small bit earlier:
> 
> Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus-daemon[556]: dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send 
> me
> ssage, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 
> co
> mm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" 
> error
>  name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 
> comm="/us
> r/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")
> Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 
> matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 
> comm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" 
> error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 
> comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")
> 
> Anybody got any clues?

Check out bugzilla 886029.  It has some information, but not a
definitive resolution, just yet

> thanks!
> 
> Fred
> 


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Mate desktop, login produces up to ten caja instances

2013-07-19 Thread Fred Smith
On F19 with Mate desktop, sometimes after login 8 or 9 or even 10 copies
of Caja (Mate File Manger) are started up.

Most of the time not, but perhaps once every day or two this will happen.
the rest of the time it's completely normal.

I found these /var/log/messages entries at around the right time, but I'm
not certain whether they are from login or the boot a small bit earlier:

Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus-daemon[556]: dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send me
ssage, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 co
mm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error
 name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 comm="/us
r/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")
Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched 
rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 comm="caja -n ") 
interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error 
name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 
comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")

Anybody got any clues?

thanks!

Fred
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