Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread Tom Horsley
Whenever possible I try to get a motherboard that supports
native Intel graphics since there is no proprietary
driver for Intel, so you can always rely on the Intel
driver working :-). (And you don't have the hassle
of pluging in a video card that might have noisy fans).

The latest Intel chips have support for natively driving
resolutions as high as the UHD (4k) monitors.

I'm currently sitting in front of a samsung 48" TV
which I also use as my computer monitor with a little
typing table for the keyboard so I can wheel it a
comfortable distance from the TV for computer use.
(This obviously works best if you are the only one
who uses the TV).
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Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread thibaut noah
I'm sitting less than 20" away from my 34" screen and this is just
priceless, for programming, music and video editing, got a 24" next to it
and there is no way i'm going back to something that small.
LG has on mac and windows the screen split feature which allow you to
divide the screen up to 4 balanced window, it's like having 4monitors in
one.
Would be a bit cumbersome to reproduce the same mechanism on linux but i'm
sure a solution can be find.
That's about the main reason to get a 21:9 screen (that and movies in
theater mode, and games off course)

2016-01-22 0:32 GMT+01:00 Doug :

>
>
> On 01/21/2016 03:02 PM, Mark wrote:
>
>> One of my new year's resolutions is to upgrade the monitor on my Fedora
>> 23 Desktop.
>>
>> I've been looking at a 34" curved 3440 x 1440 monitor. But first I want
>> to make sure it actually makes sense to get such a large monitor for
>> Linux and that there's a graphics card on the market that works well
>> with Fedora and that can drive such a large monitor. I would prefer an
>> open source driver, but I'm prepared to install a blob if I have to.
>> I'm not interested in gaming so that's not an issue, it's the real
>> estate I'm after.
>>
>> Any thoughts/recommendations?
>>
> Are you sure you really want such a large monitor? I'm sitting about 24"
> away from a 24" monitor, and I don't see how I'd want a larger one, unless
> perhaps I were doing CAD design,
> where it would be helpful to see more (or all) of whatever you're
> designing all on one page at the same time. And of course, turn your head
> to the relevant part of the screen.
>
> I would suggest you'd think hard about spending that much money on a
> monitor that you might not really want once you had it.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> --doug
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Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread DJ Delorie

Doug  writes:
> Are you sure you really want such a large monitor?

Heh.  I have four monitors, the biggest is a 40" Seiki 4k.  Total width
is about six feet.  For my purposes, more pixels is definitely better!

(F20 with a GTX980, proprietary blob, multi-purpose)
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Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread Doug



On 01/21/2016 03:02 PM, Mark wrote:

One of my new year's resolutions is to upgrade the monitor on my Fedora
23 Desktop.

I've been looking at a 34" curved 3440 x 1440 monitor. But first I want
to make sure it actually makes sense to get such a large monitor for
Linux and that there's a graphics card on the market that works well
with Fedora and that can drive such a large monitor. I would prefer an
open source driver, but I'm prepared to install a blob if I have to.
I'm not interested in gaming so that's not an issue, it's the real
estate I'm after.

Any thoughts/recommendations?

Are you sure you really want such a large monitor? I'm sitting about 24" away from a 
24" monitor, and I don't see how I'd want a larger one, unless perhaps I were doing 
CAD design,
where it would be helpful to see more (or all) of whatever you're designing all 
on one page at the same time. And of course, turn your head to the relevant 
part of the screen.

I would suggest you'd think hard about spending that much money on a monitor 
that you might not really want once you had it.

Just a thought.

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Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread thibaut noah
I possess a lg 34" (the curved one), you can run it just fine with intel
integrated graphics (my processor is a i7 4790k) if you don't use display
heavy applications (like games).
You can also play very well with a dedicated graphic card and a gaming
virtual machine (using vga passthrough and something like a gtx 980ti to
run games well), in case you change your mind about gaming someday.
Biggest downside i found was that it was impossible for me to see my bios
menu with this screen, i have no idea if this is grub related since i
purchased the screen for my gaming vm, easily fix with a second screen
which i use only for my fedora host.
Anyway, since you won't play, if you can find the reason of the issue i got
and fix it you won't have any problem at all. You won't even need to
install a specific driver.

2016-01-21 21:45 GMT+01:00 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht <
wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com>:

>
> Mark  writes:
> > One of my new year's resolutions is to upgrade the monitor on my Fedora
> > 23 Desktop.
> >
> > I've been looking at a 34" curved 3440 x 1440 monitor. But first I want
> > to make sure it actually makes sense to get such a large monitor for
> > Linux and that there's a graphics card on the market that works well
> > with Fedora and that can drive such a large monitor. I would prefer an
> > open source driver, but I'm prepared to install a blob if I have to.
> > I'm not interested in gaming so that's not an issue, it's the real
> > estate I'm after.
>
> Have a look at the ASUS R7360-OC-2GD5 or the same ATI/Radeon R7-360 card
> by any of a half dozen companies.  I have one attached to a cheap 4k
> Seiki HDMI monitor (8M pixels) which is 3M pixels more than you need to
> shift
> (5M pixels).  Xorg works with it out of the box.  No mystery binaries
> needed.
>
> The downside is this card has a fan, but it runs very slowly under Xorg
> and normal use.  Modern framebuffers just don't come fanless any more.
> The GPU's at idle all seem to use just a touch too much power.
>
> -wolfgang
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Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Mark  writes:
> One of my new year's resolutions is to upgrade the monitor on my Fedora
> 23 Desktop.
>
> I've been looking at a 34" curved 3440 x 1440 monitor. But first I want
> to make sure it actually makes sense to get such a large monitor for
> Linux and that there's a graphics card on the market that works well
> with Fedora and that can drive such a large monitor. I would prefer an
> open source driver, but I'm prepared to install a blob if I have to.
> I'm not interested in gaming so that's not an issue, it's the real
> estate I'm after. 

Have a look at the ASUS R7360-OC-2GD5 or the same ATI/Radeon R7-360 card
by any of a half dozen companies.  I have one attached to a cheap 4k
Seiki HDMI monitor (8M pixels) which is 3M pixels more than you need to shift
(5M pixels).  Xorg works with it out of the box.  No mystery binaries
needed.

The downside is this card has a fan, but it runs very slowly under Xorg
and normal use.  Modern framebuffers just don't come fanless any more.
The GPU's at idle all seem to use just a touch too much power.

-wolfgang
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Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread Mark
On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 18:21 -0200, Bernardo Sulzbach wrote:
> To be the guy that answers a question with a question, have you
> considered multiple smaller monitors?

Yes, I have, but would prefer one large one, if it works with Linux.
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Re: Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread Bernardo Sulzbach
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Mark  wrote:
> One of my new year's resolutions is to upgrade the monitor on my Fedora
> 23 Desktop.
>
> I've been looking at a 34" curved 3440 x 1440 monitor. But first I want
> to make sure it actually makes sense to get such a large monitor for
> Linux and that there's a graphics card on the market that works well
> with Fedora and that can drive such a large monitor. I would prefer an
> open source driver, but I'm prepared to install a blob if I have to.
> I'm not interested in gaming so that's not an issue, it's the real
> estate I'm after.
>

To be the guy that answers a question with a question, have you
considered multiple smaller monitors?

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Monitor / graphics card recommendation

2016-01-21 Thread Mark
One of my new year's resolutions is to upgrade the monitor on my Fedora
23 Desktop.

I've been looking at a 34" curved 3440 x 1440 monitor. But first I want
to make sure it actually makes sense to get such a large monitor for
Linux and that there's a graphics card on the market that works well
with Fedora and that can drive such a large monitor. I would prefer an
open source driver, but I'm prepared to install a blob if I have to.
I'm not interested in gaming so that's not an issue, it's the real
estate I'm after. 

Any thoughts/recommendations?
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