Re: Multiboot question
On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 20:21 +, Steven Usdansky via users wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 12:07 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > > > > Indeed, though I assume that some people are using the lame HK system > > because they have no alternative (don't ask me why). Why else would > > anyone use it? > > > > poc > Sorry. I just use my browser and wasn't aware of the need to quote to keep > things coherent. You could use an email client, including a webmail, but if you use HK then you have to explicitly quote the part you're commenting on as the default is to quote nothing, as often common happens on web forums. It's a consequence of trying to force the square peg of a web forum into the round hole of a mailing list. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
> On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 12:07 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > > Indeed, though I assume that some people are using the lame HK system > because they have no alternative (don't ask me why). Why else would > anyone use it? > > poc Sorry. I just use my browser and wasn't aware of the need to quote to keep things coherent. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 12:07 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 00:11 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Please remember to quote context when replying on HyperKitty, > > otherwise your message cannot be understood without firing up a web > > browser. > > Or a threading email client... > > While I prefer proper quoting, I'd rather have none than the unedited > full-quoting gumph that some people do. Indeed, though I assume that some people are using the lame HK system because they have no alternative (don't ask me why). Why else would anyone use it? poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
On Wed, 2020-06-03 at 00:11 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Please remember to quote context when replying on HyperKitty, > otherwise your message cannot be understood without firing up a web > browser. Or a threading email client... While I prefer proper quoting, I'd rather have none than the unedited full-quoting gumph that some people do. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1127.8.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 12 16:57:42 UTC 2020 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
On Tue, 2020-06-02 at 23:03 +, Steven Usdansky via users wrote: > Not the answer I was hoping for, but it's a question I've wanted to ask for a > while. Thanks for confirming my worst fears 鸞 Please remember to quote context when replying on HyperKitty, otherwise your message cannot be understood without firing up a web browser. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
Not the answer I was hoping for, but it's a question I've wanted to ask for a while. Thanks for confirming my worst fears 鸞 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 11:15:37 - Steven Usdansky via users wrote: > I have two bootable disks, and SSD with F32 (and Win 10), and a HDD > with F31 and a few other distros. Each disk has its own EFI > partition. F32 mounts the SSD's EFI partition at /boot/efi; F31 > mounts the HDD's EFI partition at /boot/efi. Both Fedoras have the > appropriate entries in their respective /boot/loader/entries > directories, and in both cases, GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG is set to true. > > If I update the F31 kernel, then boot off the SSD, I am not offered > the option of booting F31 with the new kernel unless I regenerate the > SSD's boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg. What I want is for the SSD's > bootloader to automatically offer me the option of booting any kernel > configured in the F31's /boot/loader/entries, rather than offering me > only the options in its own /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg. > > Is this even possible? From my understanding, no, it is a restriction of efi. Your manual workaround is the only way to get what you want using grub2 as your bootloader. If you switch to systemd-boot, my understanding is that this would be possible, but requires significant changes to the boot process. I considered going to systemd-boot, but decided it was to much work for no real gain, so will stick with grub2. I also didn't like how it seems to put more on the vfat filesystem; I would rather use native linux filesystems as much as possible. When I install my second fedora uefi system, I will also give it its own /boot/efi partition, like you have. But, when I want to boot the other version, I will use the boot menu that the efi firmware provides to select the other /boot/efi I want to use, the one for that version. Another workaround that will work for me because I will only rarely boot into the older Fedora. I keep it around for troubleshooting the current version if something goes wrong. It is known to work, has all the software I want, and is familiar, so easier than booting a rescue version. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Multiboot question
I have two bootable disks, and SSD with F32 (and Win 10), and a HDD with F31 and a few other distros. Each disk has its own EFI partition. F32 mounts the SSD's EFI partition at /boot/efi; F31 mounts the HDD's EFI partition at /boot/efi. Both Fedoras have the appropriate entries in their respective /boot/loader/entries directories, and in both cases, GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG is set to true. If I update the F31 kernel, then boot off the SSD, I am not offered the option of booting F31 with the new kernel unless I regenerate the SSD's boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg. What I want is for the SSD's bootloader to automatically offer me the option of booting any kernel configured in the F31's /boot/loader/entries, rather than offering me only the options in its own /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg. Is this even possible? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
Allegedly, on or about 01 March 2013, Craig White sent: I have had an occasion (granted just one) where I had a really large (4TB) LVM and added more drives to the system and created a new 'PV' but I joined them together as a single 'logical' volume. I believe that is what you are referring to called 'spanning'. It was a breeze and this was a server with RAID 10 so there's little risk when you lose a drive. Yes, that kind of thing was what I meant by spanning (not sure if it's meant to be the term, or just how it's been described in the past). I have wondered, that if you're already doing RAID, can it provide the same ability? I'm guessing that if you wanted to increase the size of a RAID, it probably entails adding more than one drive at a time. LVM's provide a lot of added flexibility at the price of complexity. Always seems to be the case... -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.9-101.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 18 22:04:06 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
Christopher Meng wrote: Hi all, Recently I'm stucked with multiboot. I have a disk with following partition: sd1. 157GB NTFS of Win8 sd2. 55GB including: sd5. 500M /boot sd6. 4GB /swap sd7. 50GB BTRFS Fedora 18 sd3.55GB not parted sd4.32GB not parted Now I want to install Fedora 17 on sd3 or sd4, but I don't know howto. From Anaconda I failed evrrytime for not enough space or some other reasons. So any hints availabe? I think two lvm is the way of installing dual Fedora, isn't it? Boot off fc17 install, and put fc17 on sd3. Ignore all the rest completely. When you have your fc17 installed and booted, only then you make the rest bootable by asking grub2 to find it: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg That should find lots of stuff for you. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
Thanks. In fact my root confusion is f18's anaconda... I don't know how to part when I faced it. Now I use f17 anaconda and everything seems ok. Thanks all very much! 在 2013-3-3 AM9:26，Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com写道： Christopher Meng wrote: Hi all, Recently I'm stucked with multiboot. I have a disk with following partition: sd1. 157GB NTFS of Win8 sd2. 55GB including: sd5. 500M /boot sd6. 4GB /swap sd7. 50GB BTRFS Fedora 18 sd3.55GB not parted sd4.32GB not parted Now I want to install Fedora 17 on sd3 or sd4, but I don't know howto. From Anaconda I failed evrrytime for not enough space or some other reasons. So any hints availabe? I think two lvm is the way of installing dual Fedora, isn't it? Boot off fc17 install, and put fc17 on sd3. Ignore all the rest completely. When you have your fc17 installed and booted, only then you make the rest bootable by asking grub2 to find it: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg That should find lots of stuff for you. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
Allegedly, on or about 01 March 2013, Christopher Meng sent: And, fedoraforum suggest me using ext4 instead of lvm. If you're never going to span a partition across more than one drive (which can be dangerous - if one of the drives fail, you lose what's on both of them), and if you're never going to use the snapshot feature of LVM to duplicate one of its volumes, then there's little point in using LVM on your drive. They would appear to be the two main reasons to deliberately choose to use LVM. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.9-101.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Feb 18 22:04:06 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 01:01 +1030, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 01 March 2013, Christopher Meng sent: And, fedoraforum suggest me using ext4 instead of lvm. If you're never going to span a partition across more than one drive (which can be dangerous - if one of the drives fail, you lose what's on both of them), and if you're never going to use the snapshot feature of LVM to duplicate one of its volumes, then there's little point in using LVM on your drive. They would appear to be the two main reasons to deliberately choose to use LVM. actually, I have had an occasion (granted just one) where I had a really large (4TB) LVM and added more drives to the system and created a new 'PV' but I joined them together as a single 'logical' volume. I believe that is what you are referring to called 'spanning'. It was a breeze and this was a server with RAID 10 so there's little risk when you lose a drive. LVM's provide a lot of added flexibility at the price of complexity. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
On 03/01/13 06:39, Christopher Meng wrote: Thanks, David. Maybe f17 installer is easier for me. I never install dualboot Linux on one hard disk. I always test such things on my slc usb3.0. Back to the title. As I used yesterday, f18 anaconda partitioning interface just made me more confused. I'll try f17 anaconda to see if things can go along. And, fedoraforum suggest me using ext4 instead of lvm. Distinguish the EXT4(filesystem) with the LVM(logical volume management) on top of it. ;) With regular backups you're fine. http://goo.gl/7J7Kh poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Multiboot question
Hi all, Recently I'm stucked with multiboot. I have a disk with following partition: sd1. 157GB NTFS of Win8 sd2. 55GB including: sd5. 500M /boot sd6. 4GB /swap sd7. 50GB BTRFS Fedora 18 sd3.55GB not parted sd4.32GB not parted Now I want to install Fedora 17 on sd3 or sd4, but I don't know howto. From Anaconda I failed evrrytime for not enough space or some other reasons. So any hints availabe? I think two lvm is the way of installing dual Fedora, isn't it? Thanks everyone in advance! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
Christopher Meng cickumqt at gmail.com writes: SNIP sd3. 55GB not parted sd4. 32GB not parted Now I want to install Fedora 17 on sd3 or sd4, but I don't know howto. From Anaconda I failed evrrytime for not enough space or some other reasons. So any hints availabe? I think two lvm is the way of installing dual Fedora, isn't it? I was hoping someone else who actually remembered how to do this would respond to your question. That hasn't happened so I'll give it my best shot. I run Fedora from a 400GB external hard disk for my laptop (long story). I more or less divide the disk between the current Fedora release and the previous release. That way, by the time the previous release is no longer supported, there is a new release to try and the current release is relatively stable. So, currently, I have FC 18 on one partition set and FC 17 on the other. It took several tries to find where the option is hidden but there is a button on option of some kind on the partition screen that allows you to install over existing partitions. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly where it is or the label. I just remember that it wasn't at all obvious. Restart your installation. Poke around on the partitioning screen. There is a well hidden option for installing to existing partitions. Once you find that, you get the familiar installer partition tool for assigning partitions to mount points and the option to format the partition or not. Cheers, Dave -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Multiboot question
Thanks, David. Maybe f17 installer is easier for me. I never install dualboot Linux on one hard disk. I always test such things on my slc usb3.0. Back to the title. As I used yesterday, f18 anaconda partitioning interface just made me more confused. I'll try f17 anaconda to see if things can go along. And, fedoraforum suggest me using ext4 instead of lvm. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
