Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-27 Thread Mercury Rising
Cent OS 5.4 loaded with error messages.  One was BIOS 1999 and I have a 1997
BIOS.  I get a command line and help brings up a list.  Is there a manual
for Cent OS?

On 5/20/10, Gilboa Davara  wrote:
>
>  On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Mercury Rising <
> mercuryrisin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>>
>> I got so tired of windows problems - viruses, screen - computer freezes, I
>> just stuck in a Linux for non-geeks CD and loaded it.  It wiped my hard
>> drive as expected, but I kept getting an error near the end of the install.
>> A friend gave me another Linux load, but it give me an error saying my BIOS
>> was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3
>> with 550 MHz CPU with over 700 Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10
>> Gigs with a swapable drive in pull out bay with a grab bar.  I was using
>> Windows XP Pro 2000 for OS.  I installed a USB 2.0 on it that worked most of
>> the time.  I have done a lot of Google searches to see if I could find Linux
>> and a GUI that would be as easy as a Mac or XP environment for a 1997 BIOS
>> machine.
>>
>> Any ideas on a good Linux load for such an old machine?  With the XP I
>> could print to a office jet 7410 all-in-one printer, scanner fax with no
>> problems.
>>
>> Browsing the Internet was ok, but video - youtube was mostly non-worable -
>> mostly too slow.
>>
>>
> I'm running CentOS 5.4 / i386 on a 12 y/o Dell Inspiron 7000 (PII366/256MB)
> notebook without any issue.
> I also tested Fedora 11 on this machine and it worked just fine. (Somewhat
> slower than CentOS, so I decided to stay with CentOS)
> At least in my case, the BIOS date is not an issue.
>
> - Gilboa
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-24 Thread Mercury Rising
On 5/20/10, Rares Aioanei  wrote:
> On Thursday, May 20, 2010 09:20:31 pm Mercury Rising wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> I got so tired of windows problems - viruses, screen - computer
> freezes, I
>> just stuck in a Linux for non-geeks CD and loaded it.  It wiped my
> hard
>> drive as expected, but I kept getting an error near the end of the
> install.

That was when I was using the Linux For Non-Geeks 2 CD set.

>> A friend gave me another Linux loader, but it gives me an error
> saying my BIOS
>> was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS or better.

That loader is "Freespire".  The error message says:
"[0.001 ACPI:BIOS Age (1997) fail cutoff (2000) force is required
to enable APCI"

Blue loading line oscillates and red hard drive light stays on
continuously after that.


> The machine has a Pentium 3
>> with 550 MHz CPU with over 700 Megs memory but a small hard
> drive of just
>> 10 Gigs with a swappable drive in pull out bay with a grab bar.  I was
>> using Windows XP Pro 2000 for OS.  I installed a USB 2.0 on it that
> worked
>> most of the time. The computer also has USB 1.0 hardware as well.
>>  I have done a lot of Google searches to see if I could
>> find Linux and a GUI that would be as easy as a Mac or XP
> environment for
>> a 1997 BIOS machine.
>>
>> Any ideas on a good Linux load for such an old machine?  With the
> XP I
>> could print to a office jet 7410 all-in-one printer, scanner fax with
> no
>> problems.
>>
>> Browsing the Internet was ok, but video - youtube was mostly non-
> worable -
>> mostly too slow.
> Ok, let's take it one step at a time :
> 1. We will need the error message you got related to the BIOS.
> 2. What did you mean when saying that you installed a USB 2.0 on
> it?
> 3. I think you have chances to find Fedora appropriate for your
> system, with carefully chosen applications installed.
>
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Alan Cox  wrote:

> On Fri, 21 May 2010 19:00:10 +0930
> Tim 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising
> wrote:
> > > it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I
> needed a a 2000 BIOS
> > > or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with
> 550 MHz CPU with over 700
> > > Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10
> Gigs
> > 
> > To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the
> RAM, and drive size
> > are probably going to be a big problem, too.
> > 
> > I've got servers with similar specs, and they run
> fine.  But a for a
> > workstation generating a video display, low specced
> computers get a bit
> > painfully slow.
> 
> You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are
> several ways to
> run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some
> of the
> desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.
> 
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.

Or LXDE (http://www.lxde.org/).

B
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 21/05/10 08:59, Mogens Kjaer wrote:
>
> yum install claws-mail
>
> Mogens
>
and Carroll Grigsby wrote:

Bob: Try yum install claws-mail. -- cmg
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Ok, that got it right away, I was asking for the wrong thing.

Getting smtp configured took a little longer, I have a Wildblue
address but they use the gmail servers with SSL. No trouble setting
up T-bird many times but Claws has some different options. I finally
pushed the right buttons. Now to experiment with it, set up filters,
etc.

Thanks.

Bob


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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 21 May 2010 06:32 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> Claws is awesome! Would be even better if it had Google calendar support ... 
>> :-\
>
> Claws-mail-plugins-vcalendar does ical. Never tried it with Google as I
> prefer to own my private data.
>
> And the geolocation plugin is worth trying out - not because its
> particularly useful yet however.
>

Thanks Alan, I tried it out. Seems there is some basic support to google 
calendar. I'll try it out, right now I am using thunderbird with lightning.

> Alan

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Alan Cox
> Claws is awesome! Would be even better if it had Google calendar support ... 
> :-\

Claws-mail-plugins-vcalendar does ical. Never tried it with Google as I
prefer to own my private data.

And the geolocation plugin is worth trying out - not because its
particularly useful yet however.

Alan
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread suvayu ali
On 21 May 2010 04:41, Alan Cox  wrote:
> On Fri, 21 May 2010 19:00:10 +0930
> Tim  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising wrote:
>> > it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
>> > or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
>> > Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs
>>
>> To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
>> are probably going to be a big problem, too.
>>
>> I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
>> workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
>> painfully slow.
>
> You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are several ways to
> run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some of the
> desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.
>
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.
>

Claws is awesome! Would be even better if it had Google calendar support ... :-\

> Alan

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:54:25 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:

> On 21/05/10 07:41, Alan Cox wrote:
> > XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.
> >
> >
> >
> > Alan
> >
> 
> > Is there an rpm for claws? I haven't had much luck with google.
> > I see a lot of plug-ins but not the claws app. itself? Yum doesn't
> > provide anything.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> 

Bob: Try yum install claws-mail.
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 05/21/2010 02:54 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
...
>>   Yum doesn't
>>  provide anything.

yum install claws-mail

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 21/05/10 07:41, Alan Cox wrote:
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.
>
>
>
> Alan
>

> Is there an rpm for claws? I haven't had much luck with google. I
> see a lot of plug-ins but not the claws app. itself? Yum doesn't
> provide anything.
>
> Bob
>
>

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
On 05/21/2010 07:41 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>>> it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
>>> or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
>>> Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs
>>
>> To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
>> are probably going to be a big problem, too.
>>
>> I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
>> workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
>> painfully slow.
>
> You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are several ways to
> run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some of the
> desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.
>
> XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.

Adding a SATA card and an Intel solid-state drive will probably work 
wonders too.

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 21 May 2010 19:00:10 +0930
Tim  wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising wrote:
> > it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
> > or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
> > Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs
> 
> To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
> are probably going to be a big problem, too.
> 
> I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
> workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
> painfully slow.

You want plenty of RAM and a sensible desktop. There are several ways to
run Linux on small platforms and removing all the crud some of the
desktop people have written is an enormous improvement.

XFCE + claws is snappy on old machines.

Alan
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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-21 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:20 -0700, Mercury Rising wrote:
> it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS
> or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700
> Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10 Gigs

To be honest, I think the CPU slowness, perhaps the RAM, and drive size
are probably going to be a big problem, too.

I've got servers with similar specs, and they run fine.  But a for a
workstation generating a video display, low specced computers get a bit
painfully slow.

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New to Linux - BIOS before 2000? (Mercury Rising)

2010-05-20 Thread Jorge Rivera
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:36:02 +0200
From: Mogens Kjaer 
Subject: Re: [Wylug-help] Disc failure on a software RAID system has
killed  everything
To: Community support for Fedora users 
Message-ID: <4bf51092.5020...@crc.dk>
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On 05/20/2010 12:15 PM, Gary Stainburn wrote:
...
> mdadm: cannot open device /dev/sde2: No such file or directory
...

I guess this is your main problem. Start locating the
disks before doing any assembling.

Which /dev/sd[a-z]2 do you have?

How are the disks connected to which controllers?

What does dmesg say when disks are found?

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Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:01:39 +0200
From: "Fernando Gozalo" 
Subject: Re: First NFS entry in fstab not mounting at boot
To: "Community support for Fedora users"

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Hi,

> Inside of /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs - the part that mounts the NFS shares, I
> put:
>
> sleep 30


Is your switch a Cisco one?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/NetworkIssues#Cisco_Switch_Issues

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On 05/19/2010 09:21 PM, r...@dwf.com wrote:
> I have used k3b before to burn iso's, but never to build a CD/DVD of my
own
> files.  (I used to use xcdroast for this...)
> 
> In any case, Im trying to build a CD with about 130k of data files.
> They were initially under 3 directory heads, but to simplify things Ive
moved
> the directories under one directory head.
> 
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window,
> it tells me that there is 5.7Mb there, which is wrong. If I burn the CD, I
see
> a whole lot of empty directories.
> 
> So how do I tell k3b that I want all the data below each directory head?
> That would seem to be the obvious def

Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-20 Thread Ken
On Thursday 20 May 2010 11:20:31 Mercury Rising wrote:
<[snip]>
> but it give me an error saying my BIOS was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS  
> or better. ... The machine has a Pentium 3 ... a 1997 BIOS machine.

A BIOS may be upgraded if it is contained in a flashable EEPROM. Identify 
exactly which motherboard your machine contains, then search for an updated 
BIOS download, which may or may not be free. Usually the procedure involves 
making a bootable diskette with the newer BIOS and a flash program, booting 
your machine with the disk, running the flash program, then rebooting your 
machine with the newer BIOS in place.  www.motherboards.org and 
www.wimsbios.com may have information useful to complete your project.


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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-20 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Mercury Rising
wrote:

> hi,
>
> I got so tired of windows problems - viruses, screen - computer freezes, I
> just stuck in a Linux for non-geeks CD and loaded it.  It wiped my hard
> drive as expected, but I kept getting an error near the end of the install.
> A friend gave me another Linux load, but it give me an error saying my BIOS
> was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS or better.  The machine has a Pentium 3
> with 550 MHz CPU with over 700 Megs memory but a small hard drive of just 10
> Gigs with a swapable drive in pull out bay with a grab bar.  I was using
> Windows XP Pro 2000 for OS.  I installed a USB 2.0 on it that worked most of
> the time.  I have done a lot of Google searches to see if I could find Linux
> and a GUI that would be as easy as a Mac or XP environment for a 1997 BIOS
> machine.
>
> Any ideas on a good Linux load for such an old machine?  With the XP I
> could print to a office jet 7410 all-in-one printer, scanner fax with no
> problems.
>
> Browsing the Internet was ok, but video - youtube was mostly non-worable -
> mostly too slow.
>
>
I'm running CentOS 5.4 / i386 on a 12 y/o Dell Inspiron 7000 (PII366/256MB)
notebook without any issue.
I also tested Fedora 11 on this machine and it worked just fine. (Somewhat
slower than CentOS, so I decided to stay with CentOS)
At least in my case, the BIOS date is not an issue.

- Gilboa
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