Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread jdow

On 2015-05-20 10:42, g wrote:



On 05/20/2015 11:18 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/20/2015 03:44 AM, jdow wrote:

Visit LASFS.org for more info.


Correction: http://www.lasfsinc.info


fyi, both .org and .info bring up same page.


BTW, have you visited the new clubhouse yet?


i find nothing about 'clubhouse'.


He might have meant me - and no I haven't. It's further away than the old one.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread jdow

On 2015-05-20 09:18, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/20/2015 03:44 AM, jdow wrote:

Visit LASFS.org for more info.


Correction: http://www.lasfsinc.info  BTW, have you visited the new clubhouse 
yet?


That's a redirect to lasfs.org.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/20/2015 10:42 AM, g wrote:

i find nothing about 'clubhouse'.


Go to 
http://www.lasfsinc.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9&Itemid=357 
and look at the part about the NEW location.  It's the third clubhouse 
we've owned and we're already outgrowing it.  If you have any more 
questions, it might be better to take them off-list so that we don't 
bore the rest of the members.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread Rick Stevens

On 05/20/2015 10:31 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 18:21, Rick Stevens wrote:


Bob, if this is your Raspberry PI, then make sure you have the latest
firmware. I had issues with mine and a USB Wireless N network adapter.
It'd work on Pidora but DHCP would fail on the Ubuntu derivative (or
vice versa--can't recall which one had issues).

Notes: My RPI is a B+ model (not a 2), but at least check on it. Also,
the Pidora version I use is based on F20.

.

"make sure you have the latest
firmware."

I believe I ran rpi-update in raspian, is the firmware stored in novram
somewhere other than the sd card? If so that should be done.


Yes, I guess that'll do. The RPI does do things a bit differently than
a "normal" system, so there's no separate BIOS firmware really--it's
part of the rpi-update stuff.


This is apparently the latest rpi board, the only one in the store here,
Raspberry Pi 2 Model B 1GB per the box it came in, it was a birthday gift!

I used the Fedora 21 image listed toward the end of the article:
http://jonarcher.info/2015/02/getting-fedora-21-raspberry-pi-2/. It
produced a working bare bones system, hence the desire to add to it.


Since your keyboard/mouse works under Raspbian but not under the Fedora
spin, I suspect the equivalent firmware patches aren't present on the
F21 beastie. When you get your new SD cards, could you try the off-the-
shelf Pidora (F20) and see if that works? If it does, then the F21 spin
you mention isn't "fully baked" yet.
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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread g


On 05/20/2015 11:18 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/20/2015 03:44 AM, jdow wrote:
>> Visit LASFS.org for more info.
>
> Correction: http://www.lasfsinc.info

fyi, both .org and .info bring up same page.

> BTW, have you visited the new clubhouse yet?

i find nothing about 'clubhouse'.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 18:21, Rick Stevens wrote:


Bob, if this is your Raspberry PI, then make sure you have the latest
firmware. I had issues with mine and a USB Wireless N network adapter.
It'd work on Pidora but DHCP would fail on the Ubuntu derivative (or
vice versa--can't recall which one had issues).

Notes: My RPI is a B+ model (not a 2), but at least check on it. Also,
the Pidora version I use is based on F20. 

.

"make sure you have the latest
firmware."

I believe I ran rpi-update in raspian, is the firmware stored in novram 
somewhere other than the sd card? If so that should be done.


This is apparently the latest rpi board, the only one in the store here, 
Raspberry Pi 2 Model B 1GB per the box it came in, it was a birthday gift!


I used the Fedora 21 image listed toward the end of the article: 
http://jonarcher.info/2015/02/getting-fedora-21-raspberry-pi-2/. It 
produced a working bare bones system, hence the desire to add to it.


Thanks,

Bob


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 20/05/15 07:54, Ed Greshko wrote:

It should be noted that googling on "raspberry pi keyboard problems" produces 
more than a few results.

One, in particular, stuck my eye...

http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#R-Pi_does_not_respond_to_key_presses_.2F_Keyboard_randomly_repeats_key_presses

.

The same keyboard and mouse work as expected in raspian.

The keyboard works as expected in Fedora 21 after logging-in. So does 
the mouse after yum installing gpm as suggested earlier. This would seem 
to indicate no problems with hardware compatibility. I also tried an 
Dell usb mouse I had, that made no difference.


If I do "startxfce4" at the prompt or perhaps "systwemctl start lightdm" 
via ssh from this computer, connection to the keyboard and mouse at he 
rpi board breaks. Everything works via ssh.


I looked at the URL you cited but don't see anything I recognize as 
applicable to my situation. I may be missing something you see?


UPS tracking says I should have some new SD cards late this afternoon. I 
intend to repeat what I have done with more care in adding the "X" stuff 
on the probable chance that I made some errors first time around.


Thanks,

Bob



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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/20/2015 03:44 AM, jdow wrote:

Visit LASFS.org for more info.


Correction: http://www.lasfsinc.info  BTW, have you visited the new 
clubhouse yet?

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread g


On 05/20/2015 05:44 AM, jdow wrote:
<<>>

> If you are out here and have time on a Thursday evening LASFS is
> worth a visit.

hell might freeze over first, but when it thaws, LASFS will be
in top of list.

> Visit LASFS.org for more info.

thank you for the url. quick viewed and bookmarked.

> (At the moment I live farther away than is comfortable to drive to
>  get there at meeting time - darnit.)

i can understand that.

memphi is a little further, so you might make it before i do. ;-)


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/15 06:21, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 05/19/2015 03:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 05/20/15 00:26, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>>>
>>> I've installed Fedora-21 Minimal, that comes without an X display. I've 
>>> added what ever I can find, trying to make it look like this computer, 
>>> lightdm and xfce are running but I have no control of the keyboard and 
>>> mouse at the Fedora 21 box, I can control everything normally from this 
>>> F-22 box via ssh.
>>>
>>> I added the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ expecting that would fix things but it 
>>> did not.
>>>
>>> $ ll  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
>>> total 12
>>> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 232 Apr 29 18:29 00-keyboard.conf
>>> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 154 Apr 30 14:15 10-evdev.conf
>>> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 217 Apr 30 14:16 20-evdev-mouse.conf
>>>
>>> Things look pretty much like they do here and I don't know where else to 
>>> look.
>>>
>>> Any idea welcome
>>
>> Is this again on your Raspberry PI 2, ARM based system?  If so, could it be 
>> specific to that architecture?
>
> Good call, Ed!
>
> Bob, if this is your Raspberry PI, then make sure you have the latest
> firmware. I had issues with mine and a USB Wireless N network adapter.
> It'd work on Pidora but DHCP would fail on the Ubuntu derivative (or
> vice versa--can't recall which one had issues).
>
> Notes: My RPI is a B+ model (not a 2), but at least check on it. Also,
> the Pidora version I use is based on F20.

It should be noted that googling on "raspberry pi keyboard problems" produces 
more than a few results.

One, in particular, stuck my eye...

http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#R-Pi_does_not_respond_to_key_presses_.2F_Keyboard_randomly_repeats_key_presses

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread Veli-Pekka Kestilä



On 20/05/15 03:20, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 19:08, g wrote:

>The rpi2b+ or whatever they call it, I can't find the box it came in
>right now, but it has a different processor than the earlier ones and
>Pidora does not run on it.

.
keyboard works in terminal, ok.

.
Yes, the keyboard works, but not in an x-terminal.

Dunno 'cause I can't open a terminal. Again when "X" starts the 
keyboard stops working.


Have you looked what X log file says about the keyboard etc. And have 
you tried to log in trough ssh after starting X and killing it if 
keyboard still works in terminal?


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-20 Thread jdow

On 2015-05-19 23:50, g wrote:



On 05/19/2015 10:23 PM, jdow wrote:

On 2015-05-19 16:38, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/19/2015 04:18 PM, g wrote:

yes, i have been to Chaos Manor over the years. it is in my
bookmarks toolbar under personal/favorites. tag is "humor, info"


You've been to the Chaos Manor website; I've been to the place
itself, and I assure you, the name is well deserved.


Isn't it, though. Somedays it's worse than others. I've seen it
just before a major clean-up and LASFS auction.


:-( now i am jealous of you too.

if i ever get out to cali, it will be among my visits.


If you are out here and have time on a Thursday evening LASFS is worth a visit. 
Visit LASFS.org for more info. (At the moment I live farther away than is 
comfortable to drive to get there at meeting time - darnit.)


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread g


On 05/19/2015 10:23 PM, jdow wrote:
> On 2015-05-19 16:38, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 05/19/2015 04:18 PM, g wrote:
>>> yes, i have been to Chaos Manor over the years. it is in my
>>> bookmarks toolbar under personal/favorites. tag is "humor, info"
>>
>> You've been to the Chaos Manor website; I've been to the place
>> itself, and I assure you, the name is well deserved.
> 
> Isn't it, though. Somedays it's worse than others. I've seen it
> just before a major clean-up and LASFS auction.

:-( now i am jealous of you too.

if i ever get out to cali, it will be among my visits.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread g


On 05/19/2015 09:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/19/2015 07:29 PM, g wrote:
>> next, "sudo startx kde". desktop manager appeared, so did mouse
>> pointer and it moved when i move marble ball.
>
> Why are you using sudo to run startx?  It doesn't need root,
> and shouldn't be run that way without a Very Good Reason.

correct, you are.

chemo brain, seems like too used to writing "sudo". :-D

for sure, did not drag and paste it. ;-)


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread jdow

On 2015-05-19 16:38, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/19/2015 04:18 PM, g wrote:

yes, i have been to Chaos Manor over the years. it is in my
bookmarks toolbar under personal/favorites. tag is "humor, info"


You've been to the Chaos Manor website; I've been to the place itself, and I
assure you, the name is well deserved.


Isn't it, though. Somedays it's worse than others. I've seen it just before a 
major clean-up and LASFS auction.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/19/2015 07:29 PM, g wrote:

next, "sudo startx kde". desktop manager appeared, so did mouse
pointer and it moved when i move marble ball.


Why are you using sudo to run startx?  It doesn't need root, and 
shouldn't be run that way without a Very Good Reason.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread g


On 05/19/2015 07:20 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> On 19/05/15 19:08, g wrote:
<<>>

> Yes, the keyboard works, but not in an x-terminal.

understood.

> I just used it to yum install nfs-utils and now I can mount the an
> NFS server at last!
>> 
>> can you use mouse to move around a blinking cursor block in
>> terminal?
> .
> Dunno 'cause I can't open a terminal. Again when "X" starts the
> keyboard stops working.

also understood. i was not meaning a virtual console while in "X".
i am asking about console terminal. ie, init levels 1, 2, 3. no
init 5 and no startx.

when "X" is run, some mice may require that _gpm_ is running so
that mouse will work in console terminal. not all mice may need
gpm. my logitech thumbmarble does.

"man gpm" for more info.

>> if not, reboot with a different mouse to see what happens.
> .
> I'll dig out an old mouse, but I don't think it will make any
> difference.

is a good thought, but depends on os being able to read a logitech
mouse. some can, some can not without gpm.

what i am looking for is to see if for some reason the logitech
mouse is interfering with keyboard.

also, is there anything special about keyboard?

> And I found where I put the box, in the cabinet where I put such
> things. It is a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B 1GB.

ok.

before sending, i decided to boot to level 2 to try a few things
and refresh my chemo brain.

i logged in as user, move thumb marble ball, cursor block moved
around on screen.

next, "sudo gpm -k" to kill gpm, moved marble ball, no cursor block
movement.

therefore, i conclude that _gpm_ must be running for mouse to work
in level 3 console terminal.

oops. failed to check what happens running "X".

back in a few. ;-)

ok, repeated above, same results. not that they would change. ;-)

next, "sudo startx kde". desktop manager appeared, so did mouse
pointer and it moved when i move marble ball.

in a virtual terminal, mouse moves and highlights. when i open a
console terminal, no mouse movement.

need for mouse movement is so that 'drag and paste" will work
with console terminal.

conclusion:
 gpm require for mouse movement in non "X" terminal. mouse works
 in kde without gpm active.

what or how all this relates to you problems, not sure, but you
at least know what happens on 1 user's system. :-)

something strange that i am noticing, keyboard indicator for
"Num Lock" goes out and "Scroll Lock" indicator keeps going
on an off.

i will reboot again without level 3 to see if problem goes
away.

in a few...

back again.

"Num Lock" indicator is staying on, "Scroll Lock" indicator is
not lighting. Purnelle syndrome. ;-)

i imagine you have retired for the evening. will look for you and
your 'coffee report' in am.

sleep well. happy dreams. :-)


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 19:08, g wrote:

>The rpi2b+ or whatever they call it, I can't find the box it came in
>right now, but it has a different processor than the earlier ones and
>Pidora does not run on it.

.
keyboard works in terminal, ok.

.
Yes, the keyboard works, but not in an x-terminal.

I just used it to yum install nfs-utils and now I can mount the an NFS 
server at last!


can you use mouse to move around a blinking cursor block in terminal?

.
Dunno 'cause I can't open a terminal. Again when "X" starts the keyboard 
stops working.


if not, reboot with a different mouse to see what happens.

.
I'll dig out an old mouse, but I don't think it will make any difference.

And I found where I put the box, in the cabinet where I put such things. 
It is a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B 1GB.




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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/19/2015 04:18 PM, g wrote:

yes, i have been to Chaos Manor over the years. it is in my
bookmarks toolbar under personal/favorites. tag is "humor, info"


You've been to the Chaos Manor website; I've been to the place itself, 
and I assure you, the name is well deserved.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread g


On 05/19/2015 06:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/19/2015 03:57 PM, g wrote:
>> Jerry Pournelle, a great science fiction writer.
>
> He's still around, and you can read about what he's doing at 
> http://www.jerrypournelle.com if you're interested.

yes, i have been to Chaos Manor over the years. it is in my
bookmarks toolbar under personal/favorites. tag is "humor, info"


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/19/2015 03:57 PM, g wrote:

Jerry Pournelle, a great science fiction writer.


He's still around, and you can read about what he's doing at 
http://www.jerrypournelle.com if you're interested.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread g


On 05/19/2015 05:52 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> On 19/05/15 18:38, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 05/19/2015 03:30 PM, g wrote:
>>>   1- are you using a kvm switch to switch keyboard and
>>>  marble between your boxen?
>>>  if so, connect direct to rpi2.
>>
>> An excellent suggestion.  Remember Pournelle's Law: When in doubt, 
>> check the cables first.
> .
> No, I'm not doing any of those things. Remember, as I said the keyboard 
> works as expected until I start the graphic display with "startxfce4."
>
> Via ssh it looks like any other fedora 21 system, does everything I ask 
> it too. I own no kvm, my desk is cluttered with keyboards as a result ...
>
> The LAN connection is RJ45.
>
> The rpi2b+ or whatever they call it, I can't find the box it came in 
> right now, but it has a different processor than the earlier ones and 
> Pidora does not run on it.
.
keyboard works in terminal, ok.

can you use mouse to move around a blinking cursor block in terminal?

if not, reboot with a different mouse to see what happens.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/19/2015 03:52 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

No, I'm not doing any of those things. Remember, as I said the keyboard
works as expected until I start the graphic display with "startxfce4."


There's a chance that it might either be related to your DE, or to 
startxfce4 itself.  Have you asked over at the Xfce forum, 
http://forum.xfce.org/index.php because they might know something we don't.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread g


On 05/19/2015 05:38 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/19/2015 03:30 PM, g wrote:
>>   1- are you using a kvm switch to switch keyboard and
>>  marble between your boxen?
>>  if so, connect direct to rpi2.
>
> An excellent suggestion.  Remember Pournelle's Law: When in doubt,
> check the cables first.

Jerry Pournelle, a great science fiction writer.

i miss his Byte articles. he has a technically versed mind
as well as an inventive sci-fi mind.

i learned problems of kvm switches in my early years of linux.
linux did not like kvm in its beginning.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 18:38, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/19/2015 03:30 PM, g wrote:

  1- are you using a kvm switch to switch keyboard and
 marble between your boxen?
 if so, connect direct to rpi2.


An excellent suggestion.  Remember Pournelle's Law: When in doubt, 
check the cables first.

.
No, I'm not doing any of those things. Remember, as I said the keyboard 
works as expected until I start the graphic display with "startxfce4."


Via ssh it looks like any other fedora 21 system, does everything I ask 
it too. I own no kvm, my desk is cluttered with keyboards as a result ...


The LAN connection is RJ45.

The rpi2b+ or whatever they call it, I can't find the box it came in 
right now, but it has a different processor than the earlier ones and 
Pidora does not run on it.


Bob

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/19/2015 03:30 PM, g wrote:

  1- are you using a kvm switch to switch keyboard and
 marble between your boxen?
 if so, connect direct to rpi2.


An excellent suggestion.  Remember Pournelle's Law: When in doubt, check 
the cables first.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread g


On 05/19/2015 05:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
<<>>

> Is this again on your Raspberry PI 2, ARM based system?  If so, could
> it be specific to that architecture?

Bob,

Ed and i are of similar thinking, so in addition;

 1- are you using a kvm switch to switch keyboard and
marble between your boxen?
if so, connect direct to rpi2.

 2- can/have you tried a direct connect of a keyboard
and a different mouse to rpi2?


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Rick Stevens

On 05/19/2015 03:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 05/20/15 00:26, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:


I've installed Fedora-21 Minimal, that comes without an X display. I've added 
what ever I can find, trying to make it look like this computer, lightdm and 
xfce are running but I have no control of the keyboard and mouse at the Fedora 
21 box, I can control everything normally from this F-22 box via ssh.

I added the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ expecting that would fix things but it did 
not.

$ ll  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
total 12
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 232 Apr 29 18:29 00-keyboard.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 154 Apr 30 14:15 10-evdev.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 217 Apr 30 14:16 20-evdev-mouse.conf

Things look pretty much like they do here and I don't know where else to look.

Any idea welcome


Is this again on your Raspberry PI 2, ARM based system?  If so, could it be 
specific to that architecture?


Good call, Ed!

Bob, if this is your Raspberry PI, then make sure you have the latest
firmware. I had issues with mine and a USB Wireless N network adapter.
It'd work on Pidora but DHCP would fail on the Ubuntu derivative (or
vice versa--can't recall which one had issues).

Notes: My RPI is a B+ model (not a 2), but at least check on it. Also,
the Pidora version I use is based on F20.
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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/15 00:26, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>
> I've installed Fedora-21 Minimal, that comes without an X display. I've added 
> what ever I can find, trying to make it look like this computer, lightdm and 
> xfce are running but I have no control of the keyboard and mouse at the 
> Fedora 21 box, I can control everything normally from this F-22 box via ssh.
>
> I added the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ expecting that would fix things but it did 
> not.
>
> $ ll  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
> total 12
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 232 Apr 29 18:29 00-keyboard.conf
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 154 Apr 30 14:15 10-evdev.conf
> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 217 Apr 30 14:16 20-evdev-mouse.conf
>
> Things look pretty much like they do here and I don't know where else to look.
>
> Any idea welcome

Is this again on your Raspberry PI 2, ARM based system?  If so, could it be 
specific to that architecture?

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 15:33, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 15:24, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 15:14, stan wrote:

If you select lightdm as the started service, you
will have to change the switch-to-user to be your username instead of
mine.



I can't see where your name is specified, all I see is $USER?


Ok, that's not a problem, it finds my name, bobg. I selected xt for 
xfce4 and got a terminal but still no keyboard or mouse.



.

I should receive some new micro SD memory cards tomorrow and I will 
re-do the system installation on one of those. Hopefully the result will 
be better now that I've learned more about what is required.


Thanks all for the help,

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/19/2015 12:58 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



I just booted another computer to check that and the answer is no, the
arrow keys do not move the cursor with the desktop display I was looking
at, only the mouse/trackball will.


That's pretty much standard.  However, the cursor keys should work when 
you're (let's say) typing a reply to an email.

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 15:00, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/19/2015 11:48 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

arrow keys should move the cursor, no?


That depends; in a typing box, or on your desktop? 



I just booted another computer to check that and the answer is no, the 
arrow keys do not move the cursor with the desktop display I was looking 
at, only the mouse/trackball will.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 15:24, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 15:14, stan wrote:

If you select lightdm as the started service, you
will have to change the switch-to-user to be your username instead of
mine.



I can't see where your name is specified, all I see is $USER?


Ok, that's not a problem, it finds my name, bobg. I selected xt for 
xfce4 and got a terminal but still no keyboard or mouse.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 15:14, stan wrote:

If you select lightdm as the started service, you
will have to change the switch-to-user to be your username instead of
mine.



I can't see where your name is specified, all I see is $USER?

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread stan
On Tue, 19 May 2015 14:38:57 -0400
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA"  wrote:


> I called it START, it looks like it may need some changing, will I
> have to remove [comment] the lines referring to stuff I don't have?
> 
> [bobg@raspberrypi ~]$ ./START
> *** Replacing existing ~/.Xclients or creating new one.
> ./START: line 109: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
> ./START: line 109: `echo 'CSESSION="$(type -p 
> cinnamon-session-cinnamon2d)"' >>'
> 
> 

No, unless you select them it will ignore them.  The problem is that
when I pasted the script, some of the lines wrapped, and so the wrapped
portion is out of context and generates errors.  Here is a version
pasted without wrap.  If you select lightdm as the started service, you
will have to change the switch-to-user to be your username instead of
mine.

#! /bin/bash
#X Window Manager Chooser Script

#  run the default common X initialization scripts
#  By using ~/.Xclients instead of ~/.xinitrc
#  this is run automatically
#source /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc-common

XCLIENTS=/home/$USER/.Xclients

echo '*** Replacing existing ~/.Xclients or creating new one.'
echo '#! /bin/bash' > $XCLIENTS
echo ' ' >> $XCLIENTS
chmod +x $XCLIENTS

if[ "$1" = fb ]; then
echo 'exec startfluxbox' >>  $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting Fluxbox...'
elif[ "$1" = ob ]; then
  echo 'exec openbox-session' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting Openbox...'
elif[ "$1" = fv ]; then
  echo 'exec fvwm' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting FVWM...'
elif   [ "$1" = en ]; then
  echo 'xset b off s 1 -dpms &' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec enlightenment_start' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting Enlightenment (E17)...'
elif   [ "$1" = lx ]; then
  echo 'exec startlxde' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with LXDE...'
elif   [ "$1" = xf ]; then
  echo 'exec startxfce4' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with XFCE...'
elif   [ "$1" = xt ]; then
  echo 'exec xterm' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with xterm...'
elif   [ "$1" = kd ]; then
  echo 'STARTKDE="$(type -p startkde)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $STARTKDE' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with KDE...'
elif   [ "$1" = gn ]; then
  echo 'GSESSION="$(type -p gnome-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $GSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with Gnome...'
elif   [ "$1" = ma ]; then
  echo 'MSESSION="$(type -p mate-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $MSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with MATE...'
elif   [ "$1" = ci ]; then
  echo 'CSESSION="$(type -p cinnamon-session-cinnamon2d)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $CSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with cinnamon...'
elif   [ "$1" = li ]; then
#  echo 'exec dm-tool --session-bus switch-to-user stan lightdm' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec dm-tool switch-to-user stan lightdm &' >> $XCLIENTS
#  echo 'exec dm-tool switch-to-greeter lightdm' >> $XCLIENTS
#  echo 'exec dm-tool add-local-x-seat 10  switch-to-greeter lightdm' >> 
$XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with lightdm...'
else
  echo -e "\n"
  echo -e "\n"
  echo Hello, $USER\! Which WM will it be this time?
  echo -e "\n"
  echo 'Type the two letter code for the window manager you want.'
  echo 'Fluxbox - fb ; Enlightenment (E17) - en ; Openbox - ob ; Xterm - xt ;'
  echo 'FVWM - fv ; XFCE - xf ; LXDE - lx ; KDE - kd ; GNOME - gn ; MATE - ma'
  echo 'cinnamon - ci'
  echo 'Hitting enter on blank line will take the default, GNOME unless you 
change it.'
  echo 'Enter window manager code as argument to script and avoid this 
interaction.'
  echo 'Type Ctl-C to cancel selection.'
  read WMGR
  if[   "$WMGR" = fb ]; then
echo 'exec startfluxbox' >>  $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting Fluxbox...'
  elif[ "$WMGR" = ob ]; then
echo 'exec openbox-session' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting Openbox...'
  elif[ "$WMGR" = fv ]; then
echo 'exec fvwm' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting FVWM...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = en ]; then
echo 'xset b off s 1 -dpms &' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec enlightenment_start' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting E17...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = lx ]; then
echo 'exec startlxde' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with LXDE...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = xf ]; then
echo 'exec startxfce4' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with XFCE...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = xt ]; then
echo 'exec xterm' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with xterm...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = kd ]; then
echo 'STARTKDE="$(type -p startkde)"' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec $STARTKDE' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with KDE...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = gn ]; then
echo 'GSESSION="$(type -p gnome-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec $GSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with Gnome...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = ma ]; then
echo 'MSESSION="$(type -p mate-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec $MSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with MATE...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = ci ]; then
echo 'CSESSION="$(type -p cinnamon-session-cinnamon2d)"' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec $CSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with cinnamon...'
  elif   

Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/19/2015 11:48 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

arrow keys should move the cursor, no?


That depends; in a typing box, or on your desktop?
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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 14:35, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 14:18, Rick Stevens wrote:

See attached file Xorg.0.log.txt.


This bit at the end doesn't look good:

[  3152.415] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 
Trackball (/dev/input/mouse0)

[  3152.416] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[  3152.416] (II) This device may have been added with another device 
file.


So, the trackball isn't being recognized and that may hose up your
keyboard as well. 

.
.

I just rebooted with the trackball plug pulled, it then opens with the 
xfce splash screen instead of that graphic log-in. The keyboard still is 
not recognized, arrow keys should move the cursor, no? and ctrl alt f2 
doesn't work either ...



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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 13:41, stan wrote:

Here's the script if you want to try it instead of the greeter / window
manager.

.

I called it START, it looks like it may need some changing, will I have 
to remove [comment] the lines referring to stuff I don't have?


[bobg@raspberrypi ~]$ ./START
*** Replacing existing ~/.Xclients or creating new one.
./START: line 109: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
./START: line 109: `echo 'CSESSION="$(type -p 
cinnamon-session-cinnamon2d)"' >>'



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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 14:18, Rick Stevens wrote:

See attached file Xorg.0.log.txt.


This bit at the end doesn't look good:

[  3152.415] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 
Trackball (/dev/input/mouse0)

[  3152.416] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[  3152.416] (II) This device may have been added with another device 
file.


So, the trackball isn't being recognized and that may hose up your
keyboard as well.

Question: Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well? If so, try
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I have always used those trackballs on every version of Fedora, never a 
question?


[root@raspberrypi bobg]# ll /etc/X11/xorg.conf
ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory



But there is an /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with three evdev files for 
keyboard, mouse, and evdev.conf. I added those.


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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Rick Stevens

On 05/19/2015 10:49 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 13:22, Rick Stevens wrote:


Can you ssh to the box and look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? Perhaps
a clue is lurking in there. You should also try "ctrl-alt-F2" to see
if you get a console login (may not work if the keyboard is really
botched).

.
Once I startx the keyboard doesn't respond, I tried "ctrl-alt-F2" early on.

The log file doesn't show time of events and it's hard for me to know
where I am in it. I'll try attaching it, I don't think the size is
objectionable.

See attached file Xorg.0.log.txt.


This bit at the end doesn't look good:

[  3152.415] (II) config/udev: Adding input device Logitech USB-PS/2 
Trackball (/dev/input/mouse0)

[  3152.416] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[  3152.416] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.

So, the trackball isn't being recognized and that may hose up your
keyboard as well.

Question: Do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as well? If so, try
renaming it and restarting startx.
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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 13:41, stan wrote:

That's weird.  I installed a minimal F21 using netinstall from the
server version, and did exactly what you have done - bolted X on.  I
don't use a greeter, though, just a script to startx with the flavor of
window environment I want.  I never see a password prompt when starting
X.  It starts as the user I have logged in as on the console.

.
Yes, I don't know why it is displaying the greeter, it should open with 
XFCE.


Perhaps I should go through the same routine I normally do to make 
Fedora start with text? But it already does that?


I may have to try your script ...

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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 13:22, Rick Stevens wrote:


Can you ssh to the box and look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? Perhaps
a clue is lurking in there. You should also try "ctrl-alt-F2" to see
if you get a console login (may not work if the keyboard is really
botched). 

.
Once I startx the keyboard doesn't respond, I tried "ctrl-alt-F2" early on.

The log file doesn't show time of events and it's hard for me to know 
where I am in it. I'll try attaching it, I don't think the size is 
objectionable.


See attached file Xorg.0.log.txt.

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[  3151.096] 
X.Org X Server 1.16.3
Release Date: 2014-12-20
[  3151.097] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[  3151.097] Build Operating System:  3.17.7-300.fc21.armv7hl 
[  3151.097] Current Operating System: Linux raspberrypi 3.18.7-v7+ #756 SMP 
PREEMPT Wed Feb 18 16:14:51 GMT 2015 armv7l
[  3151.097] Kernel command line: dma.dmachans=0x7f35 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1232 
bcm2708_fb.fbheight=992 bcm2709.boardrev=0xa21041 bcm2709.serial=0xe6ddca0d 
smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:DD:CA:0D bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 bcm2709.disk_led_gpio=47 
bcm2709.disk_led_active_low=0 sdhci-bcm2708.emmc_clock_freq=25000 
vc_mem.mem_base=0x3dc0 vc_mem.mem_size=0x3f00  dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 
console=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootfstype=ext4 
elevator=deadline rootwait
[  3151.098] Build Date: 31 January 2015  11:32:09PM
[  3151.098] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.16.3-2.fc21 
[  3151.098] Current version of pixman: 0.32.6
[  3151.098]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[  3151.098] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[  3151.100] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue May 19 11:52:42 
2015
[  3151.102] (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[  3151.102] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[  3151.113] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[  3151.114] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[  3151.114] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[  3151.114] (**) |   |-->Monitor ""
[  3151.115] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[  3151.115] (==) Automatically adding devices
[  3151.115] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[  3151.115] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[  3151.115] (==) FontPath set to:
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
built-ins
[  3151.115] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[  3151.115] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input 
devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.
[  3151.117] (II) Loader magic: 0x1e1f54
[  3151.117] (II) Module ABI versions:
[  3151.117]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[  3151.117]X.Org Video Driver: 18.0
[  3151.117]X.Org XInput driver : 21.0
[  3151.117]X.Org Server Extension : 8.0
[  3151.126] (EE) systemd-logind: failed to get session: PID 624 does not 
belong to any known session
[  3151.127] (II) no primary bus or device found
[  3151.129] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[  3151.132] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[  3151.221] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3151.221]compiled for 1.16.3, module version = 1.0.0
[  3151.221]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 8.0
[  3151.221] (==) AIGLX enabled
[  3151.221] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 0
[  3151.221] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 1
[  3151.222] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[  3151.222] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[  3151.223] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[  3151.228] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3151.228]compiled for 1.16.0, module version = 0.9.0
[  3151.228]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[  3151.228]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
[  3151.228] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[  3151.229] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[  3151.232] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[  3151.232]compiled for 1.16.0, module version = 0.4.3
[  3151.232]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[  3151.232]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
[  3151.232] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[  3151.232] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[  3151.233] (++) using VT number 1

[  3151.233] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[  3151.233] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[  3151.234] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[  3151.234] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[  3151.234] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[  3151.234]

Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread stan
On Tue, 19 May 2015 12:57:39 -0400
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA"  wrote:

> .
> I start the computer and login normally with the keyboard, Everything 
> works normally until I "startx." Then the graphic login screen is 
> displayed and the cursor blinks waiting for me to enter the password
> but I can not, at that point the mouse and keyboard are not
> responding. It seems something is botched in my attempt to shoe horn
> X into the system?

That's weird.  I installed a minimal F21 using netinstall from the
server version, and did exactly what you have done - bolted X on.  I
don't use a greeter, though, just a script to startx with the flavor of
window environment I want.  I never see a password prompt when starting
X.  It starts as the user I have logged in as on the console.

I use a .Xkbmap file in my ~ directory to select the keymapping since I
use a custom mapping.  I had to put that mapping in the proper
directory under X, of course, so X could find it.  

Here's the script if you want to try it instead of the greeter / window
manager.  I used to be able to run on vt10 prior to F21, so I could
look at console 1 for X messages while it was running.  But something
changed in F21, and this no longer works, but hangs forever.  I haven't
got around to tracing why.  Probably something in the way consoles are
managed by systemd changed.  This is old, so not sure if all the options
work still.  I know that gnome, kde, xfce, mate, cinnamon, xterm, fvwm
and lxde do.

#! /bin/bash
#X Window Manager Chooser Script

#  run the default common X initialization scripts
#  By using ~/.Xclients instead of ~/.xinitrc
#  this is run automatically
#source /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc-common

XCLIENTS=/home/$USER/.Xclients

echo '*** Replacing existing ~/.Xclients or creating new one.'
echo '#! /bin/bash' > $XCLIENTS
echo ' ' >> $XCLIENTS
chmod +x $XCLIENTS

if[ "$1" = fb ]; then
echo 'exec startfluxbox' >>  $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting Fluxbox...'
elif[ "$1" = ob ]; then
  echo 'exec openbox-session' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting Openbox...'
elif[ "$1" = fv ]; then
  echo 'exec fvwm' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting FVWM...'
elif   [ "$1" = en ]; then
  echo 'xset b off s 1 -dpms &' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec enlightenment_start' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting Enlightenment (E17)...'
elif   [ "$1" = lx ]; then
  echo 'exec startlxde' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with LXDE...'
elif   [ "$1" = xf ]; then
  echo 'exec startxfce4' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with XFCE...'
elif   [ "$1" = xt ]; then
  echo 'exec xterm' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with xterm...'
elif   [ "$1" = kd ]; then
  echo 'STARTKDE="$(type -p startkde)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $STARTKDE' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with KDE...'
elif   [ "$1" = gn ]; then
  echo 'GSESSION="$(type -p gnome-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $GSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with Gnome...'
elif   [ "$1" = ma ]; then
  echo 'MSESSION="$(type -p mate-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $MSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with MATE...'
elif   [ "$1" = ci ]; then
  echo 'CSESSION="$(type -p cinnamon-session-cinnamon2d)"' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'exec $CSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
  echo 'Starting X with cinnamon...'
elif   [ "$1" = li ]; then
#  echo 'exec dm-tool --session-bus switch-to-user stan lightdm' >>
$XCLIENTS echo 'exec dm-tool switch-to-user stan lightdm &' >> $XCLIENTS
#  echo 'exec dm-tool switch-to-greeter lightdm' >> $XCLIENTS
#  echo 'exec dm-tool add-local-x-seat 10  switch-to-greeter lightdm'
>> $XCLIENTS echo 'Starting X with lightdm...'
else
  echo -e "\n"
  echo -e "\n"
  echo Hello, $USER\! Which WM will it be this time?
  echo -e "\n"
  echo 'Type the two letter code for the window manager you want.'
  echo 'Fluxbox - fb ; Enlightenment (E17) - en ; Openbox - ob ; Xterm
- xt ;' echo 'FVWM - fv ; XFCE - xf ; LXDE - lx ; KDE - kd ; GNOME -
gn ; MATE - ma' echo 'cinnamon - ci'
  echo 'Hitting enter on blank line will take the default, GNOME unless
you change it.' echo 'Enter window manager code as argument to script
and avoid this interaction.' echo 'Type Ctl-C to cancel selection.'
  read WMGR
  if[   "$WMGR" = fb ]; then
echo 'exec startfluxbox' >>  $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting Fluxbox...'
  elif[ "$WMGR" = ob ]; then
echo 'exec openbox-session' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting Openbox...'
  elif[ "$WMGR" = fv ]; then
echo 'exec fvwm' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting FVWM...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = en ]; then
echo 'xset b off s 1 -dpms &' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec enlightenment_start' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting E17...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = lx ]; then
echo 'exec startlxde' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with LXDE...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = xf ]; then
echo 'exec startxfce4' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with XFCE...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = xt ]; then
echo 'exec xterm' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with xterm...'
  elif   [ "$WMGR" = kd ]; then
ech

Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Rick Stevens

On 05/19/2015 09:57 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:



On 19/05/15 12:49, stan wrote:

>Any idea welcome,

Did you restart X on the F21 box so it would pick up the modified
configuration?  If you didn't use startx, that would mean logging out
to the greeter / window manager and logging back in.

Is gpm installed?  If it is, and you log in to multiuser instead of
graphical on the F21 box, does the mouse work?  Does the keyboard?
That will determine if the issue is at system level configuration or X
configuration.


.
I start the computer and login normally with the keyboard, Everything
works normally until I "startx." Then the graphic login screen is
displayed and the cursor blinks waiting for me to enter the password but
I can not, at that point the mouse and keyboard are not responding. It
seems something is botched in my attempt to shoe horn X into the system?


Can you ssh to the box and look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? Perhaps
a clue is lurking in there. You should also try "ctrl-alt-F2" to see
if you get a console login (may not work if the keyboard is really
botched).

Here are a couple of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf files I have
for reference:

File 1 (from the machine I'm writing this on):
# Read and parsed by systemd-localed. It's probably wise not to edit 
this file

# manually too freely.
Section "InputClass"
Identifier "system-keyboard"
MatchIsKeyboard "on"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

File 2 (from my laptop):
# This file is autogenerated by system-setup-keyboard. Any
# modifications will be lost.

Section "InputClass"
Identifier  "system-setup-keyboard"
MatchIsKeyboard "on"
Option  "XkbModel""pc105+inet"
Option  "XkbLayout"   "us"
#   Option  "XkbVariant"  "(null)"
Option  "XkbOptions"  "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,"
EndSection

File 3 (from my machine at home):
# This file is autogenerated by system-setup-keyboard. Any
# modifications will be lost.

Section "InputClass"
Identifier  "system-setup-keyboard"
MatchIsKeyboard "on"
Option  "XkbModel""pc105+inet"
Option  "XkbLayout"   "us"
#   Option  "XkbVariant"  "(null)"
Option  "XkbOptions"  "terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,"
EndSection

File 1 is from a machine built from scratch as an F21 machine (fresh
install), while files 2 and 3 appear identical and they're from systems
that were "fedup"ed from F20 to F21.
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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA



On 19/05/15 12:49, stan wrote:

>Any idea welcome,

Did you restart X on the F21 box so it would pick up the modified
configuration?  If you didn't use startx, that would mean logging out
to the greeter / window manager and logging back in.

Is gpm installed?  If it is, and you log in to multiuser instead of
graphical on the F21 box, does the mouse work?  Does the keyboard?
That will determine if the issue is at system level configuration or X
configuration.


.
I start the computer and login normally with the keyboard, Everything 
works normally until I "startx." Then the graphic login screen is 
displayed and the cursor blinks waiting for me to enter the password but 
I can not, at that point the mouse and keyboard are not responding. It 
seems something is botched in my attempt to shoe horn X into the system?




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Re: No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread stan
On Tue, 19 May 2015 12:26:39 -0400
"Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA"  wrote:

[snip]

> I have no control of the
> keyboard and mouse at the Fedora 21 box, I can control everything
> normally from this F-22 box via ssh.

[snip]

> Any idea welcome,

Did you restart X on the F21 box so it would pick up the modified
configuration?  If you didn't use startx, that would mean logging out
to the greeter / window manager and logging back in.

Is gpm installed?  If it is, and you log in to multiuser instead of
graphical on the F21 box, does the mouse work?  Does the keyboard?
That will determine if the issue is at system level configuration or X
configuration.
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No mouse in Fedora 21 -

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


I've installed Fedora-21 Minimal, that comes without an X display. I've 
added what ever I can find, trying to make it look like this computer, 
lightdm and xfce are running but I have no control of the keyboard and 
mouse at the Fedora 21 box, I can control everything normally from this 
F-22 box via ssh.


I added the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ expecting that would fix things but it 
did not.


$ ll  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
total 12
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 232 Apr 29 18:29 00-keyboard.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 154 Apr 30 14:15 10-evdev.conf
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 217 Apr 30 14:16 20-evdev-mouse.conf

Things look pretty much like they do here and I don't know where else to 
look.


Any idea welcome,

Bob

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