Numlock warning on password entry boxes
Why does GNOME warn me that numlock is on? I get warning for capslock; you can unknowingly botch a password. But numlock? Are there keyboards for which the non-numeric keys on the d-pad can type valid characters? Seems odd but I don't want to file a bug until I understand why it is the way it is; I'm probably missing something. -CB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Numlock warning on password entry boxes
On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 16:02 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On every non-laptop keyboard I've ever used, those keys are arrow keys, and the corner keys have special uses. Try turning off numlock when you're editing a document and see what they do; they're quite useful, in fact, and I prefer to work with numlock off whenever possible. I've never seen the point of that. On every non-laptop keyboard that I've seen (*), those special keys actually have dedicated keys right next to the numberpad (the page up and down, print screen, etc., keys). So turning off numlock gives you a second set of the same thing, right next to them. And you lose the ability to quickly enter numbers. * Keyboards like these ones, numlock is pointless: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Qwerty.svg Reminds me of another pet keyboard peeve; I wish they'd put the damn caps lock and num lock lights next to the damn buttons, or in them, not on the opposite side of the board, and obscured by burying it in the cabinet with a teeny tiny hole to shine through, and labelled with weird legends (usually raised black plastic on a black plastic background). The sodding things are designed by Bastards Incorporated. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Numlock warning on password entry boxes
On 12/02/2011 04:18 PM, Tim wrote: I've never seen the point of that. On every non-laptop keyboard that I've seen (*), those special keys actually have dedicated keys right next to the numberpad (the page up and down, print screen, etc., keys). So turning off numlock gives you a second set of the same thing, right next to them. And you lose the ability to quickly enter numbers. I very rarely need to enter more than a few numbers at a time, and mostly use the ones at the top of the keyboard. I'd be just as happy having only the special keys on the keypad, as I almost never have a use for the other set. It's a matter of how and when I learned to use the keyboard, and a personal preference backed by several decades of habit. The main reason I mentioned it in the first place was to show that there are actually people who like to work with numlock off, because if nobody ever did, there'd be no point in having it at all. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Numlock warning on password entry boxes
On 12/02/2011 02:18 PM, Chris Bredesen wrote: Why does GNOME warn me that numlock is on? I get warning for capslock; you can unknowingly botch a password. But numlock? Are there keyboards for which the non-numeric keys on the d-pad can type valid characters? Seems odd but I don't want to file a bug until I understand why it is the way it is; I'm probably missing something. Laptops -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com If you're going to shift my paradigm ... at least buy me dinner first. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Numlock warning on password entry boxes
On 3 December 2011 04:57, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/02/2011 02:18 PM, Chris Bredesen wrote: Why does GNOME warn me that numlock is on? I get warning for capslock; you can unknowingly botch a password. But numlock? Are there keyboards for which the non-numeric keys on the d-pad can type valid characters? Seems odd but I don't want to file a bug until I understand why it is the way it is; I'm probably missing something. Laptops Is there a way to turn it off? This feature irritates me badly. What's the package name? I would dig through sources, erase those awful lines of code and recompile it manually. -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Numlock warning on password entry boxes
On 12/03/2011 08:18 AM, Tim wrote: I've never seen the point of that. On every non-laptop keyboard that I've seen (*), those special keys actually have dedicated keys right next to the numberpad (the page up and down, print screen, etc., keys). So turning off numlock gives you a second set of the same thing, right next to them. And you lose the ability to quickly enter numbers. The dedicated keys do produce different codes than those on the keypad KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x761, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 707839323, (166,-10), root:(1405,12), state 0x0, keycode 88 (keysym 0xff99, KP_Down), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyPress event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x761, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 707850379, (166,-10), root:(1405,12), state 0x0, keycode 116 (keysym 0xff54, Down), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False I wonder if any application makes use of the differences? FWIW, I always run with NumLock on. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
