Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-09 Thread Mail Lists
On 05/07/2010 03:07 AM, kalinix wrote:

> 
> or even better:
> http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=205.188.168.107


  Thats just a geoip for mail checking a much much better starting point
is  -this- :>

 
http://www.senderbase.org/senderbase_queries/detailip?search_string=205.188.168.107
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-07 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

Roger  writes:
> If you are uncertain do a whois search on the email address but don't be 
> surprised if its Indonesia, nigeria, US, etc.
> http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/205.188.168.107
> has helped me on many occasions.

Or you can do it yourself by checking the registration database for the
IP address block via "whois": 

 $ whois 205.188.168.107
 [Querying whois.arin.net]
 [whois.arin.net]

 OrgName:America Online, Inc 
 OrgID:  AMERIC-59
 Address:22080 Pacific Blvd
 City:   Sterling
 StateProv:  VA
 PostalCode: 20166
 Country:US

 NetRange:   205.188.0.0 - 205.188.255.255 
 CIDR:   205.188.0.0/16 
 NetName:AOL-DTC
 NetHandle:  NET-205-188-0-0-1
 Parent: NET-205-0-0-0-0
 NetType:Direct Assignment
 NameServer: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM
 NameServer: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM
 Comment:
 RegDate:1998-04-18
 Updated:1998-04-27

 RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
 RTechName:   America Online, Inc. 
 RTechPhone:  +1-703-265-4670
 RTechEmail:  doma...@aol.net 

 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2010-05-06 20:00
 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
 #
 # ARIN WHOIS data and services are subject to the Terms of Use
 # available at https://www.arin.net/whois_tou.html

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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-07 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 07 May 2010 10:07:10 +0300
kalinix  wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 09:46 +1000, Roger wrote:
> 
> 
> > If you are uncertain do a whois search on the email address but don't be 
> > surprised if its Indonesia, nigeria, US, etc.
> > http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/205.188.168.107
> > has helped me on many occasions.
> > 
> > Roger
> 
> 
> or even better:
> http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=205.188.168.107

Also if you are using claws see the new claws-geolocation plugin -
although it really needs to use a few moe tools to do location
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-07 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 22:47 -0700, Brian Mury wrote:
> The likelihood of any reputable company (at least one from an English
> speaking country, and Google is a U.S. company) sending out anything
> with such atrocious spelling/grammar/capitalization/punctuation/sentence
> structure/formatting is also extremely low. If it reads like it was
> written by someone from Nigeria - it probably was!

I agree with that.  But when you look at the failed grade school writing
ability of a great number of people on the internet, I seriously begin
to doubt whether they could recognise the difference between a well
written letter and a bad one.

Chatting to some people, face to face, about these sorts of scams, and
saying the same sort of thing to them that you have, explaining what I
would have thought was utterly obvious from just a cursory glance at the
scam, I've come to the conclusion that the world is full of incredibly
stupid people.  None of them had anything more than the slightest of
suspicions that the scam was a scam.

And, on the other hand, I've had similar misgivings about lack of
caution when speaking to my bank and our alarm security service.  They
do scant verification of identity, and expect me to do the same with
them.  Of all people, they should be the most cautious, and aware of
why.  But they're not.

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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-07 Thread kalinix
On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 09:46 +1000, Roger wrote:


> If you are uncertain do a whois search on the email address but don't be 
> surprised if its Indonesia, nigeria, US, etc.
> http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/205.188.168.107
> has helped me on many occasions.
> 
> Roger


or even better:
http://www.maxmind.com/app/locate_demo_ip?ips=205.188.168.107



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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Brian Mury
Lots of good advice already, so I won't waste bandwidth repeating it
all, but I will add an item to Joanne's comment about things a reputable
company wouldn't do:

On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 19:25 -0700, jdow wrote:
> But, the primary
> good thing to learn is that the likelihood of ANY reputable company
> asking for information this way is so close to zero it's safe to discard
> the message.

The likelihood of any reputable company (at least one from an English
speaking country, and Google is a U.S. company) sending out anything
with such atrocious spelling/grammar/capitalization/punctuation/sentence
structure/formatting is also extremely low. If it reads like it was
written by someone from Nigeria - it probably was!

This one is actually quite a bit better than most, but it's still quite
obvious. Any communications from Google would be a lot more professional
than what you received - they would never have let *that* get out the
door!

Brian


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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Mail Llists
On 05/06/2010 10:58 PM, jdow wrote:

> They should also show the IP address of the person posting the message.
> I've not looked at a gmail header in quite some time so I'm not sure if
> they adopted this practice or not. I figured it had stayed on campus.
> I expected to see it shuffled from computer to computer rather than
> being one hop as is shown.
> 
> {^_^}


   That is debatable and some say not in clear text. Google does not
show the originating IP in clear text - I cannot say if it is encoded in
some way in the message-id like some webmail clients do.

   If the mail is sent using smtp, then indeed the originating IP is
visible.

  gene
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread jdow
From: "Mail Llists" 
Sent: Thursday, 2010/May/06 19:39


> On 05/06/2010 10:34 PM, jdow wrote:
> 
>> 
>> It looks like the miscreant use Google mail to send the phish. Although
>> there does seem to be a lack of the expected number of received-from:
>> headers.
>> 
>> {^_^}
> 
> 
>   Google mail sent via webmail remains solely within the internal
> google mailers ... that is normal - and they dkim sign internal as well
> as external bound email.
> 
>   gene

They should also show the IP address of the person posting the message.
I've not looked at a gmail header in quite some time so I'm not sure if
they adopted this practice or not. I figured it had stayed on campus.
I expected to see it shuffled from computer to computer rather than
being one hop as is shown.

{^_^}
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Mail Llists
On 05/06/2010 10:34 PM, jdow wrote:

> 
> It looks like the miscreant use Google mail to send the phish. Although
> there does seem to be a lack of the expected number of received-from:
> headers.
> 
> {^_^}


   Google mail sent via webmail remains solely within the internal
google mailers ... that is normal - and they dkim sign internal as well
as external bound email.

   gene
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread jdow
From: "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" 
Sent: Thursday, 2010/May/06 15:11
> 
> jackson byers  writes:
>> from Gmail Support 
>> to 
>> date Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
>> subject ALERT: Act Fast!
>> mailed-by gmail.com
>> signed-by gmail.com
>> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
>> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
>> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
>> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
>> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
>> reply button and filling the space below.
>>
>> Account:
>> Password:
>> Birth date:
>> Country:
>> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
>> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
>> account permanently.
>> Thank you for using Gmail!
>>
>> The Gmail Team
> 
> You want to look at the full, uneditied header, not the highly redacted
> message you forwarded.  Follow the chain of "Received" headers to see
> where the message really came from.  The top-most one will most likely
> be google receiving the mail from the spammer.  The ones below that are
> most likely fiction injected by the spammer.  Discount every header that
> was added by the spammer.  Only the top ones added by your service
> provider (google) can be trusted.
> 
> -wolfgang
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> If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3
> non-overlapping WIFI channels?

It looks like the miscreant use Google mail to send the phish. Although
there does seem to be a lack of the expected number of received-from:
headers.

{^_^}
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread jdow
Others, 
Seems to me that some people DO need an effective AV/Phish solution.
The malware infects their brains, especially if they had to ask the
question Jackson Byers asked.

Jackson,
Simply look at the headers of the message. Look at what it is asking
you. The "security upgrade" scheme is old in Internet years. These
days it's more a joke than anything else.

Learn to read the "received-from: " headers on the email. It would also
help to learn the meaning of the rest of the headers. But, the primary
good thing to learn is that the likelihood of ANY reputable company
asking for information this way is so close to zero it's safe to discard
the message.

The usual technique for this kind of change is similar to what Yahoo
did when they found good reason to update their database. When I went
to log in it asked for new security information with revised reminder
questions. Email would be too cumbersome, too likely to be spam canned,
and too easy to forge and sucker in gullible people. Just toss it
Jackson. Then see if you can avail yourself of some of the expertise
here off-line for help learning to read email headers at a cursory
level and why. Approached nicely folks here do answer.

{^_^}
- Original Message - 
From: "jackson byers" 
Sent: Thursday, 2010/May/06 10:49


>I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
> gmail. .?
> Any other users on this list seeing this?
> 
> thanks for advice
> Jack
> 
> from Gmail Support 
> to 
> date Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by gmail.com
> signed-by gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
> reply button and filling the space below.
> 
> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
> 
> The Gmail Team

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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Roger

Its phishing, nuke it.

> Whenever I receive such an advice I ignore it, delete the email mainly 
> because I just what to see what will happen.
Always nothing happens, the gmail just keeps on keeping on, bigpond 
keeps on, eftel keeps going.
If you have your sensitive emails stored on your pc it really doesn't 
matter if gmail collapses in a heap, one can  start over.
 Never trust the internet.

If you are uncertain do a whois search on the email address but don't be 
surprised if its Indonesia, nigeria, US, etc.
http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/205.188.168.107
has helped me on many occasions.

Roger
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread NĂ©stor
Jackson,

The link below, helps to track an email ipaddress
http://aruljohn.com/info/howtofindipaddress

Nestor :-)

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:49 AM, jackson byers  wrote:

> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
> gmail. .?
> Any other users on this list seeing this?
>
> thanks for advice
> Jack
>
> fromGmail Support 
> to
> dateSun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by   gmail.com
> signed-by   gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
> reply button and filling the space below.
>
> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
>
> The Gmail Team
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

jackson byers  writes:
> from  Gmail Support 
> to
> date  Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject   ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by gmail.com
> signed-by gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
> reply button and filling the space below.
>
> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
>
> The Gmail Team

You want to look at the full, uneditied header, not the highly redacted
message you forwarded.  Follow the chain of "Received" headers to see
where the message really came from.  The top-most one will most likely
be google receiving the mail from the spammer.  The ones below that are
most likely fiction injected by the spammer.  Discount every header that
was added by the spammer.  Only the top ones added by your service
provider (google) can be trusted.

-wolfgang
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread charles zeitler
Do what thou wilt
shall  be the whole  of the Law.


On 5/6/10, jackson byers  wrote:
> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.
> Any other users on this list seeing this?
>
> thanks for advice
> Jack
>
> from  Gmail Support 
> to
> date  Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject   ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by gmail.com
> signed-by gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)

you should act fast.
please report phishing to gmail ( i do. )
see: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=29381

charles zeitler




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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread jackson byers
Thanks to all who responded.
I may well have not seen all--I use digest mode.
And I also use just webmail, no evolution or whatever.
I don't know anything about  "dkim"
--I did not respond to that message
--I have since reported it as spam
--I previously had not known how to check headers

following gmail instructions:

Log in to Gmail.
Open the message you'd like to view headers for.
Click the down arrow next to Reply, at the top-right of the message pane.
Select Show original.
The full headers will appear in a new window.

FWIW here is the entire response, not too helpful to me,
but I don't see

"the Gmail URL is http://mail.google.com/ or, for even more security,
https://mail.google.com/";


Delivered-To: byers...@gmail.com
Received: by 10.231.32.65 with SMTP id b1cs304ibd;
Sun, 2 May 2010 19:19:43 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: 
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of bobe.k...@gmail.com
designates 10.150.120.35 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.150.120.35;
Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of
bobe.k...@gmail.com designates 10.150.120.35 as permitted sender)
smtp.mail=bobe.k...@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=bobe.k...@gmail.com
Received: from mr.google.com ([10.150.120.35])
by 10.150.120.35 with SMTP id
s35mr13509666ybc.224.1272853181890 (num_hops = 1);
Sun, 02 May 2010 19:19:41 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:sender:received:date
 :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:content-type;
bh=/bwZGoXN04muRdZA/+jAixxlPlAZ8FMK9L/yVaweNWQ=;
b=e/No1IriRT71O8J/UWdoieoLiGeuFe/wZ27zGJeC4CO0fVexvl6bfeRPIZZvH7QzOV
 NnJezls2yVaEG7SrkUb3qF72rxyF9PvQlwwqCHwpfLvW93gX3cgMOPrdnopcD/FL6/AT
 4vWgn050Ic84e3k/74x2LCdsfLsa3fbzEF+m8=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
d=gmail.com; s=gamma;
h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject
 :from:content-type;
b=T85Fs6vW4tj6fwsViT/3LKgd7ZoQecHEG3yygJjfSVUC4dU9VAN5OR8WJE4Q9gAI7k
 STNHyYM7jD2EzeUyDGk47HPQaQT/67aXXKR31F36zMQFcovD6ZFmlrS0kJqDnGKT/MEJ
 sO0gpsqYs/NcJEeTGLEmWJMaEkZo6F8vfGhyw=
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.150.120.35 with SMTP id s35mt13509666ybc.224.1272853176352;
Sun, 02 May 2010 19:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
Sender: bobe.k...@gmail.com
Received: by 10.150.121.11 with HTTP; Sun, 2 May 2010 19:19:36 -0700 (PDT)

Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 03:19:36 +0100
X-Google-Sender-Auth: cf17a53a3e2aa268
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread kalinix
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 11:44 -0700, Michael Miles wrote:


> > The Gmail Team
> >
> Is this really from the gmail team or is it another scam?


from Gmail Support ??? Come on! You gotta be
kidding!
 I think (in the best case) they're missing a 7 after 00 :))

However, I'm curious how many (l)users will fall for it >:)


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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/06/2010 10:49 AM, jackson byers wrote:
> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
> gmail. .?
> Any other users on this list seeing this?
>
> thanks for advice
> Jack
>
> from  Gmail Support
> to
> date  Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject   ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by gmail.com
> signed-by gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
> reply button and filling the space below.
>
> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
>
> The Gmail Team
>
Big time scam destroy this file.


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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/06/2010 10:49 AM, jackson byers wrote:
> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
> gmail. .?
> Any other users on this list seeing this?
>
> thanks for advice
> Jack
>
> from  Gmail Support
> to
> date  Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject   ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by gmail.com
> signed-by gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
> reply button and filling the space below.
>
> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
>
> The Gmail Team
>
I would suspect definite scam

Do not give any info without confirming with gmail team

Nigerian bank scam dude

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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Michael Miles
On 05/06/2010 10:49 AM, jackson byers wrote:
> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
> gmail. .?
> Any other users on this list seeing this?
>
> thanks for advice
> Jack
>
> from  Gmail Support
> to
> date  Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject   ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by gmail.com
> signed-by gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
> reply button and filling the space below.
>
> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
>
> The Gmail Team
>
Is this really from the gmail team or is it another scam?
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 May 2010, jackson byers wrote:

Its phishing, nuke it.

>I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
>gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
>to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
>gmail. .?
>Any other users on this list seeing this?
>
>thanks for advice
>Jack
>
>from   Gmail Support 
>to
>date   Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
>subjectALERT: Act Fast!
>mailed-by  gmail.com
>signed-by  gmail.com
>hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
>Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
>result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
>verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
>disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
>reply button and filling the space below.
>
>Account:
>Password:
>Birth date:
>Country:
>Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
>within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
>account permanently.
>Thank you for using Gmail!
>
>The Gmail Team
>


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A pity that it's totally undeserved.
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread alan



On Thu, 6 May 2010, fchan wrote:

>
>> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
>> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
>> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
>> gmail. .?
>> Any other users on this list seeing this?
>>
>> thanks for advice
>> Jack
>>
>> from Gmail Support 
>> to
>> date Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
>> subject  ALERT: Act Fast!
>> mailed-bygmail.com
>> signed-bygmail.com
>> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
>> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
>> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
>> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
>> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
>> reply button and filling the space below.
>>
>> Account:
>> Password:
>> Birth date:
>> Country:
>> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
>> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
>> account permanently.
>> Thank you for using Gmail!
>>
>> The Gmail Team
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>
> This is correct that there was security breach at Google so it is
> recommended that you change your password and your personal question
> information.
> However, double check the link since there are have spammers taking
> advantage of this incident to do some phishing.
> It is best go to normal gmail login
> https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&bsv=1eic6yu9oa4y3&scc=1 and login and then change your information there.

This e-mail is most certainly a scam. They will NEVER ask for you to 
"verify" your password in this manner.

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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread fchan

>I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
>gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
>to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
>gmail. .?
>Any other users on this list seeing this?
>
>thanks for advice
>Jack
>
>from   Gmail Support 
>to
>date   Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
>subjectALERT: Act Fast!
>mailed-by  gmail.com
>signed-by  gmail.com
>hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
>Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
>result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
>verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
>disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
>reply button and filling the space below.
>
>Account:
>Password:
>Birth date:
>Country:
>Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
>within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
>account permanently.
>Thank you for using Gmail!
>
>The Gmail Team
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This is correct that there was security breach at Google so it is 
recommended that you change your password and your personal question 
information.
However, double check the link since there are have spammers taking 
advantage of this incident to do some phishing.
It is best go to normal gmail login 
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=mail&passive=true&rm=false&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fmail.google.com%2Fmail%2F%3Fui%3Dhtml%26zy%3Dl&bsv=1eic6yu9oa4y3&scc=1

Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Mail Llists
On 05/06/2010 01:49 PM, jackson byers wrote:
> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
> gmail. .?

> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
> 
> The Gmail Team

  Its phishing spam - noone  real will ever ever ever ask for your passowrd.

   Look at the full headers (in thunderbird press control U) it will be
obvious ... also gmail signs their outgoing email with dkim so you can
verify it.

  gene
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Re: OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/06/2010 12:49 PM, jackson byers wrote:
> I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
> gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
> to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
> gmail. .?
> Any other users on this list seeing this?
> 
> thanks for advice
> Jack
> 
> from  Gmail Support 
> to
> date  Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
> subject   ALERT: Act Fast!
> mailed-by gmail.com
> signed-by gmail.com
> hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
> Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
> result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
> verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
> disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
> reply button and filling the space below.
> 
> Account:
> Password:
> Birth date:
> Country:
> Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
> within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
> account permanently.
> Thank you for using Gmail!
> 
> The Gmail Team


Dude, did you look at the actual headers for the mail as well as the
address to which the button would take you?  And what sort of
spam/phishing filtering are you doing that you actually got to see this
message?

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OT gmail alert -- spam or real?

2010-05-06 Thread jackson byers
I don't know how to tell whether the below quoted email is really from
gmail or some sort of spam/scan.  I don't recall ever giving my birthdate
to gmail before, or having to put in my password except when starting
gmail. .?
Any other users on this list seeing this?

thanks for advice
Jack

fromGmail Support 
to  
dateSun, May 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM
subject ALERT: Act Fast!
mailed-by   gmail.com
signed-by   gmail.com
hide details May 2 (4 days ago)
Gmail Team is working on total security on all accounts and as a
result of this security upgrade we require all Google members to
verify their account with Google. To prevent your account from
disability you will have to update your information by clicking the
reply button and filling the space below.

Account:
Password:
Birth date:
Country:
Warning!!! Account owner that refuses to update his or her account
within Seven days of receiving this warning will lose his or her
account permanently.
Thank you for using Gmail!

The Gmail Team
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