Re: Phone calls from laptop
On Monday, July 19, 2010 23:57:52 Bill Davidsen wrote: RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Log onto Google Voice and use the help feature. I searched using something like VOIP via SIP on Linux or similar. A few pages in was a set of replies to a question with all details on getting sipphone account and client, etc. I think people are repeatedly misinterpreting OP's question here. As I understood the OP, he wants to use a computer to emulate an ordinary analog phone device. Nothing VoIP, SIP or otherwise Internet-related. Imagine he doesn't even have any Internet connection. A computer which is completely off-line, connected to a phone landline via modem, and acting as a regular, ordinary phone --- it rings when someone tries to call, it dials outgoing calls, and converts audio input/output into electric signals like a normal phone would. Maybe even act as an answering machine (recording voice messages), a fax machine, and such. While I can only imagine *why* the OP would ever want this kind of thing, I believe this could be possible in principle, provided that the modem can send arbitrary analog signal over the wire. If his hardware is ok, it's just a question of whether there is any software that implements this behavior. I have no answer, but would also be quite curious to know myself. :-) HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 07/20/2010 08:29 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday, July 19, 2010 23:57:52 Bill Davidsen wrote: RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Log onto Google Voice and use the help feature. I searched using something like VOIP via SIP on Linux or similar. A few pages in was a set of replies to a question with all details on getting sipphone account and client, etc. I think people are repeatedly misinterpreting OP's question here. As I understood the OP, he wants to use a computer to emulate an ordinary analog phone device. Nothing VoIP, SIP or otherwise Internet-related. Imagine he doesn't even have any Internet connection. A computer which is completely off-line, connected to a phone landline via modem, and acting as a regular, ordinary phone --- it rings when someone tries to call, it dials outgoing calls, and converts audio input/output into electric signals like a normal phone would. Maybe even act as an answering machine (recording voice messages), a fax machine, and such. While I can only imagine *why* the OP would ever want this kind of thing, I believe this could be possible in principle, provided that the modem can send arbitrary analog signal over the wire. If his hardware is ok, it's just a question of whether there is any software that implements this behavior. I have no answer, but would also be quite curious to know myself. :-) HTH, :-) Marko I think the op who posted confirmed this when I posted a similar reply to people who were suggesting VoIP ans SIP. Also, I sent that op links that provided exactly what he was looking for, and only one of them was a Linux solution. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 16:29 +0100, Marko Vojinovic wrote: While I can only imagine *why* the OP would ever want this kind of thing, I believe this could be possible in principle, provided that the modem can send arbitrary analog signal over the wire. If his hardware is ok, it's just a question of whether there is any software that implements this behavior. I seem to recall that the TTY relay services worked that way. Their computers are connected to the phone line, and their pseudo modem can accept data modem calls, Braille TTY calls, or voice calls, and they act as a middle-man between two callers using different techniques. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Log onto Google Voice and use the help feature. I searched using something like VOIP via SIP on Linux or similar. A few pages in was a set of replies to a question with all details on getting sipphone account and client, etc. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 18:57 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Log onto Google Voice and use the help feature. Google Voice is not available in your country. Thanks for visiting Google Voice. We're not yet open for users outside the US, but are planning to expand our service to additional countries in the future. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:46 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/15/2010 10:22 AM, David Liguori wrote: On 7/15/2010 5:37 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Hello Ramakishore, I assume you mean that your modem is connected to the wall jack via rj11 cable, and that your modem is not dialed into an internet provider when you want to make a person to person phone call: Have you tried windows' dialer.exe? I read some blogs that say it can even play a ring tone when someone calls in. Of course, I assume your computer has a decent sound card/modem. Unfortunately, I have not come across a similar Unix utility. Maybe it exists, but I have not seen one. Hello JD, You understood what I want. If anybody has a solution please let me know. Thank you. Kishore -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:54 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/15/2010 11:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/07/10 10:37, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Maybe? yum install ekiga Upstream: http://www.ekiga.org/ That's not what the user wants. He just wants an app that will use the regular standard phone line to make person to person calls using the local telco service. He is not asking for a VOIP solution. Ekiga (formerly called GnomeMeeting) is a VoIP and video conferencing application for GNOME and Windows. ... Yes, you are correct. Kishore -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2010 01:13 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:54 PM, JD jd1...@gmail.com mailto:jd1...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/15/2010 11:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/07/10 10:37, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Maybe? yum install ekiga Upstream: http://www.ekiga.org/ That's not what the user wants. He just wants an app that will use the regular standard phone line to make person to person calls using the local telco service. He is not asking for a VOIP solution. Ekiga (formerly called GnomeMeeting) is a VoIP and video conferencing application for GNOME and Windows. ... Yes, you are correct. Kishore -- Not quite what you what, but something interesting to look at. The Fedoraproject is trying to use VoIP for communications. Please see, http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ For VoIP software, please see http://talk.fedoraproject.org/setup-local-system twinkle, empathy, ekiga, are VoIP softphones. They are tools. They use the SIP VoIP protocol. Ekiga used to be gnome-meeting, compatible with Microsoft Netmeeting, running the H.323 protocol Microsoft Netmeeting used. Ekiga supports both the H.323 protocol and the SIP VoIP protocol. In order to do what you want, if you wish to use a SIP softphone, you would need an account with a provider, that works with SIP softphones, who let's you make landline calls from your VoIP softphone. You would configure your VoIP softphone to use that provider. In the case of most SIP VoIP softphones, you can configure multiple providers. There will be multiple providers. You will need to search the Internet to comparison shop. I have not tried empathy. I tried ekiga and twinkle. I had better luck with twinkle and currently have twinkle running with accounts on talk.fedoraproject.org and sipphone.com. There are a large number of VoIP SIP providers. They come and go. Each VoIP SIP provider can be thought of as an island of VoIP SIP users. There is a community that is trying to join these islands together. Please see URL, http://sipbroker.com/sipbroker/action/login The list of VoIP SIP providers, that I have found, is http://www.sipbroker.com/sipbroker/action/providerWhitePages The list of PSTN access numbers, that I have found, is http://www.sipbroker.com/sipbroker/action/pstnNumbers I should mention what a PSTN access number is. Some SIP providers have PSTN access numbers. People, who do not near their VoIP SIP softphones can call these PSTN access numbers to get into the SIP provider's network letting the person call a PC from a landline or mobile phone. Please note what I said about each provider being an island. The provider may (or may not) let one use the provider's PSTN access number to call a person's softphone in a different island. Hopefully, they do, but it is their service and they do what they wish. I do not make landline calls so can't answer what provider I'd use for landline calls. People have mentioned Skype. Skype can also be thought of as an island of people who use Skype for VoIP. Partly, skype defines a proprietary protocol for doing VoIP over the Internet. Skype's protocol is proprietary, so we don't get to see what their protocol actually is. Skype is more than just a proprietary protocol and software running on your PC. Skype is run by one company. That company is your provider and will make landline calls when you use Skype. You will need to check their prices for providing this service. I tried running Skype to talk to other people who were using Skype, as a communications tool, at a place where I worked. I found it was better to install Skype on the Windows PC, they provided, rather than install it on my Fedora Linux PC. I had problems with Skype on my Fedora Linux PC. This was some years ago. Hopefully, Skype works better on Fedora Linux now. Other notes: I had problems, using the VoIP SIP protocol, through firewalls and behind NAT, in the past. Hopefully, those problems have been fixed. Currently, I am not behind NAT, so I can't give an answer. What I will say about Skype...when it works...it just works. It is easy to install. It works around firewalls and NAT and everything. Personally, I do not trust Skype. It is proprietary. It works very hard to get around security mechanisms. Given my current Internet configuration, I would become a Skype supernode if I ran Skype on my Linux PC. Couple that with the fact my ISP is going the bandwidth CAP route, I would probably exceed my ISP's bandwidth CAP and suffer the consequences. Off the topic, I am in the process of trying to switch ISPs.
Re: Phone calls from laptop
Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/07/10 19:24, JD wrote: That's not what the user wants. He just wants an app that will use the regular standard phone line to make person to person calls using the local telco service. Not sure it's possible currently, aside from asterisk which may be overkill. It should be technically feasible. Modern modems are not modems anymore; they are just sound cards attached to telephone jacks, so if you want to exchange data with another modem you need a softmodem driver which is a DSP-like software mathematically creating the correct sound waveform to play into the line. With this kind of hardware, sending audio captured by a mic to the they-call-me-modem-but-i-m-a-soundcard component should be quite easy to do. But I don't know if such a software exists. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 07/16/2010 12:53 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/07/10 19:24, JD wrote: That's not what the user wants. He just wants an app that will use the regular standard phone line to make person to person calls using the local telco service. Not sure it's possible currently, aside from asterisk which may be overkill. It should be technically feasible. Modern modems are not modems anymore; they are just sound cards attached to telephone jacks, so if you want to exchange data with another modem you need a softmodem driver which is a DSP-like software mathematically creating the correct sound waveform to play into the line. With this kind of hardware, sending audio captured by a mic to the they-call-me-modem-but-i-m-a-soundcard component should be quite easy to do. But I don't know if such a software exists. Isn't that accomplished by this windows app? http://en.kioskea.net/download/download-154-call-center Also, what about this free linux app? http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Information-Management/Call-center-software-14917.shtml -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Phone calls from laptop
My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:07:24 +0530 RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA rkbabu.kopp...@gmail.com wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? u need asterisk and a fxo card http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/FXO m. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 15:07 +0530, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote:
My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect
the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make
calls.
You cannot. A modem just talk to another modem.
How to do this? Is there any software available to do this?
A lot, but not with a modem.
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Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 7/15/2010 5:37 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Yes, it's called Skype. You of course need a dial-up ISP. A bit o.t. Last time I tried running Skype in Fedora it worked fine, though I wasn't using a dial-up. They had the best voice quality of any VOIP I had tried at that time, meaning, better algorithms and better chance of success under dial-up bandwidth. It's been a couple of years, though. Not sure if the stock Fedora even comes with the dial-up software any more, though probably easy to install. Come to think of it, it shouldn't be such a bandwidth hog, digitizing voice then presumably compressing it to near its Shanon entropy. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 07/15/2010 10:22 AM, David Liguori wrote: On 7/15/2010 5:37 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Hello Ramakishore, I assume you mean that your modem is connected to the wall jack via rj11 cable, and that your modem is not dialed into an internet provider when you want to make a person to person phone call: Have you tried windows' dialer.exe? I read some blogs that say it can even play a ring tone when someone calls in. Of course, I assume your computer has a decent sound card/modem. Unfortunately, I have not come across a similar Unix utility. Maybe it exists, but I have not seen one. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Phone calls from laptop
My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Yes, it's called Skype. You of course need a dial-up ISP. A bit o.t. Last time I tried running Skype in Fedora it worked fine, though I wasn't using a dial-up. They had the best voice quality of any VOIP I had tried at that time, meaning, better algorithms and better chance of success under dial-up bandwidth. It's been a couple of years, though. Not sure if the stock Fedora even comes with the dial-up software any more, though probably easy to install. Come to think of it, it shouldn't be such a bandwidth hog, digitizing voice then presumably compressing it to near its Shanon entropy. Fedora's default doesn't install the dialup tools, it's just a click away though. The other night I happened to be monitoring my skype session with tools in pfsense found that it was consuming between 100-200KB all the time while connected with video. I haven't done audio-only in a LONG time so I'm not sure on that end. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 15/07/10 10:37, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Maybe? yum install ekiga Upstream: http://www.ekiga.org/ -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 07/15/2010 11:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/07/10 10:37, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Maybe? yum install ekiga Upstream: http://www.ekiga.org/ That's not what the user wants. He just wants an app that will use the regular standard phone line to make person to person calls using the local telco service. He is not asking for a VOIP solution. Ekiga (formerly called GnomeMeeting) is a VoIP and video conferencing application for GNOME and Windows. ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 07/15/2010 02:37 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Look at http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-107341-use-computer-as-landline-phone Not an ideal solution, nor a linux solution - but the user reports that it works. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 15/07/10 19:24, JD wrote: That's not what the user wants. He just wants an app that will use the regular standard phone line to make person to person calls using the local telco service. Not sure it's possible currently, aside from asterisk which may be overkill. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 15/07/10 19:31, JD wrote: On 07/15/2010 02:37 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Look at http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-107341-use-computer-as-landline-phone Not an ideal solution, nor a linux solution - but the user reports that it works. Or maybe a fax kludge where his modem with suitable headset outputs non-faxes to his ears. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Phone calls from laptop
On 07/15/2010 11:36 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 15/07/10 19:31, JD wrote: On 07/15/2010 02:37 AM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: My laptop has a internal modem and RJ-11 connector. I want to connect the phone line to the laptop and by using head phones I want to make calls. How to do this? Is there any software available to do this? Kishore Look at http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-107341-use-computer-as-landline-phone Not an ideal solution, nor a linux solution - but the user reports that it works. Or maybe a fax kludge where his modem with suitable headset outputs non-faxes to his ears. I assume the poster is not into kludging something to make phone calls :) :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
