Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 27 July 2016, Manish Kathuria sent:
> Network connectivity is fine. Probably its just compatibility. I felt
> that it should work since the print server itself (and the router
> device) is Linux based. 

I wonder if it makes use of UPnP?  You might want to look in that.

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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Manish Kathuria]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Jose Maria Terry Jimenez  wrote:

> El 27/07/16 a las 15:22, Manish Kathuria escribió:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Tim  wrote:
>
>> Allegedly, on or about 26 July 2016, Manish Kathuria sent:
>> > The D-Link documentation suggests specifying
>> > http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the Printer URI. This
>> > configuration works very well over the network while using a Windows
>> > system but it does not print at all from the Fedora machine even after
>> > trying various permutations and combinations.
>>
>> I'm going to ask the obvious question:  Is your Linux computer in the
>> same subnet as the printer?  (i.e. 172.16..)
>>
>>
> Yes
>
>
>> Is that the IP of the printer?
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> For what it's worth, even if it is, browsing to that IP may not do you
>> any good.  They may simply have the printer listening, without providing
>> any interface.  That's what my HP LaserJet 4M does (it's there on the
>> network, listening and printing, but doesn't provide any kind of
>> interface to the outside world).
>>
>
> Exactly. It does not let me browse.
>
>>
>> Is that the IP of the router?
>>
>
> The printer's IP is the same as the wireless router (i.e. 172.16.100.1 and
> the Linux system is 172.16.100.x)
>
>>
>> In that case, I'd expect that the router is acting as an internet
>> printing server, and ought to have some kind of interface.  But you may
>> have more luck going to the root of the server (instead of directly to
>> the printer address), , to see if that gives
>> you an interface.
>>
>> Tried that also, and it did not show anything on the browser. The process
> list on the DLink Router shows a program named ippd running which provides
> the interface to the printer.
>
>
>
> Can you access the router's print server port via telnet?
>
> telnet 172.16.100.1 631
>
> Yes, it works.


> If not try disabling the Fedora's firewall.
>
> Also, last week i had a problem with a customer, and it was he configured
> a wrong net mask in the Linux box.
>
> I suppose that ping and traceroute to the printserver's IP give the
> expected results, did you tried it?
>
> Network connectivity is fine. Probably its just compatibility. I felt that
it should work since the print server itself (and the router device) is
Linux based.
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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Jose Maria Terry Jimenez]

El 27/07/16 a las 15:22, Manish Kathuria escribió:



On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Tim > wrote:


Allegedly, on or about 26 July 2016, Manish Kathuria sent:
> The D-Link documentation suggests specifying
> http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the Printer URI. This
> configuration works very well over the network while using a Windows
> system but it does not print at all from the Fedora machine even
after
> trying various permutations and combinations.

I'm going to ask the obvious question:  Is your Linux computer in the
same subnet as the printer?  (i.e. 172.16..)


Yes

Is that the IP of the printer?



For what it's worth, even if it is, browsing to that IP may not do you
any good.  They may simply have the printer listening, without
providing
any interface.  That's what my HP LaserJet 4M does (it's there on the
network, listening and printing, but doesn't provide any kind of
interface to the outside world).


Exactly. It does not let me browse.


Is that the IP of the router?


The printer's IP is the same as the wireless router (i.e. 172.16.100.1 
and the Linux system is 172.16.100.x)



In that case, I'd expect that the router is acting as an internet
printing server, and ought to have some kind of interface.  But
you may
have more luck going to the root of the server (instead of directly to
the printer address), , to see if that gives
you an interface.

Tried that also, and it did not show anything on the browser. The 
process list on the DLink Router shows a program named ippd running 
which provides the interface to the printer.



Can you access the router's print server port via telnet?

telnet 172.16.100.1 631

If not try disabling the Fedora's firewall.

Also, last week i had a problem with a customer, and it was he 
configured a wrong net mask in the Linux box.


I suppose that ping and traceroute to the printserver's IP give the 
expected results, did you tried it?
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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Manish Kathuria]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Tim  wrote:

> Allegedly, on or about 26 July 2016, Manish Kathuria sent:
> > The D-Link documentation suggests specifying
> > http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the Printer URI. This
> > configuration works very well over the network while using a Windows
> > system but it does not print at all from the Fedora machine even after
> > trying various permutations and combinations.
>
> I'm going to ask the obvious question:  Is your Linux computer in the
> same subnet as the printer?  (i.e. 172.16..)
>
>
Yes


> Is that the IP of the printer?
>
>



> For what it's worth, even if it is, browsing to that IP may not do you
> any good.  They may simply have the printer listening, without providing
> any interface.  That's what my HP LaserJet 4M does (it's there on the
> network, listening and printing, but doesn't provide any kind of
> interface to the outside world).
>

Exactly. It does not let me browse.

>
> Is that the IP of the router?
>

The printer's IP is the same as the wireless router (i.e. 172.16.100.1 and
the Linux system is 172.16.100.x)

>
> In that case, I'd expect that the router is acting as an internet
> printing server, and ought to have some kind of interface.  But you may
> have more luck going to the root of the server (instead of directly to
> the printer address), , to see if that gives
> you an interface.
>
> Tried that also, and it did not show anything on the browser. The process
list on the DLink Router shows a program named ippd running which provides
the interface to the printer.



> Other things to consider:
>
> How is the Windows box printing to the printer?  Is it pre-rendering, or
> is it sending generic printing data to the server, and the server
> rendering for the specific printer.  You may have to do the same thing.
>

It is a ZjStream printer (also termed as a GDI / host based printer by
many) where the rendering takes place on the Windows PC. On Linux, the
printing is made possible using the foo2zjs driver or the HPLIP. I have
tried using those drivers while configuring it as a network printer but it
does not work. Whenever the printer is connected to the USB port on the
Linux system and switched on a firmware file is pushed to it. I think
that's not happening when its connected to the print server.

>
> On Linux, a computer can send PostScript or PDF to a printer server, and
> have it talk to the printer in its own language.  Or, you can pre-render
> on the computer, and send that directly to the printer.  In the past,
> I'd found that CUPs could automatically handle both types, but other
> people say that you had to set up specific printer queues for each.
>
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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Manish Kathuria]

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:28 AM, fred roller  wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Rick Stevens 
> wrote:
>
>> On 07/26/2016 07:54 AM, Manish Kathuria wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Tom Horsley > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:55:41 +0530
>> > Manish Kathuria wrote:
>> >
>> > > Has anyone tried a similar thing or can give any suggestions ?
>> >
>> > If the dlink box is running some variation of cups, then
>> > you might try connecting to 172.16.100.1:631
>> >  with a web
>> > server to see if the admin interface has any useful info.
>> >
>> > Usually for network printers I have to use a ipp: url
>> > to print. Something like ipp://10.134.60.18/ipp
>> > 
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > The D-Link box is running a program called ippd and while they suggest
>> > specifying http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the printer,
>> accessing
>> > http://172.16.100.1/ or http://172.16.100.1:631/printers through a
>> > browser does not show anything.
>> >
>> > I did try using ipp://172.16.100.1/ipp  as the
>> > printer URI but it did not work.
>>
>> Try browsing http://172.16.100.1:631
>
>
 That shows a blank page.

>
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> May seem off here, but have you tried HPLIP.  HP, in my experience, has
> been good about working with Linux; especially with there Linux driver
> HPLIP (HP Linux Imaging and Printing).  If the router is successfully
> creating something to be discovered via the network then HPLIP should pick
> it up fairly easy. If interested check out the Fedora Wiki on the subject
> at:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Printing/HPLIP
>
> Once installed usually can add through normal add printer , add network
> printer scenario, but read documentation just to be sure for your own case.
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> I had tried using HPLIP also but that does not detect it as a network or
> wireless printer. For configuring the wireless printer using HPLIP one
> needs to connect the printer through USB once so that it is identified and
> when I tried that option, it did not recognize it as a known wireless
> printer. So I think it works only for the known HP Wireless / Network
> Printers.
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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 26 July 2016, Manish Kathuria sent:
> The D-Link documentation suggests specifying
> http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the Printer URI. This
> configuration works very well over the network while using a Windows
> system but it does not print at all from the Fedora machine even after
> trying various permutations and combinations.

I'm going to ask the obvious question:  Is your Linux computer in the
same subnet as the printer?  (i.e. 172.16..)

Is that the IP of the printer?

For what it's worth, even if it is, browsing to that IP may not do you
any good.  They may simply have the printer listening, without providing
any interface.  That's what my HP LaserJet 4M does (it's there on the
network, listening and printing, but doesn't provide any kind of
interface to the outside world).

Is that the IP of the router?

In that case, I'd expect that the router is acting as an internet
printing server, and ought to have some kind of interface.  But you may
have more luck going to the root of the server (instead of directly to
the printer address), , to see if that gives
you an interface.

Other things to consider:

How is the Windows box printing to the printer?  Is it pre-rendering, or
is it sending generic printing data to the server, and the server
rendering for the specific printer.  You may have to do the same thing.

On Linux, a computer can send PostScript or PDF to a printer server, and
have it talk to the printer in its own language.  Or, you can pre-render
on the computer, and send that directly to the printer.  In the past,
I'd found that CUPs could automatically handle both types, but other
people say that you had to set up specific printer queues for each.

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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[fred roller]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

> On 07/26/2016 07:54 AM, Manish Kathuria wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Tom Horsley  > > wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:55:41 +0530
> > Manish Kathuria wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone tried a similar thing or can give any suggestions ?
> >
> > If the dlink box is running some variation of cups, then
> > you might try connecting to 172.16.100.1:631
> >  with a web
> > server to see if the admin interface has any useful info.
> >
> > Usually for network printers I have to use a ipp: url
> > to print. Something like ipp://10.134.60.18/ipp
> > 
> > --
> >
> >
> > The D-Link box is running a program called ippd and while they suggest
> > specifying http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the printer, accessing
> > http://172.16.100.1/ or http://172.16.100.1:631/printers through a
> > browser does not show anything.
> >
> > I did try using ipp://172.16.100.1/ipp  as the
> > printer URI but it did not work.
>
> Try browsing http://172.16.100.1:631
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May seem off here, but have you tried HPLIP.  HP, in my experience, has
been good about working with Linux; especially with there Linux driver
HPLIP (HP Linux Imaging and Printing).  If the router is successfully
creating something to be discovered via the network then HPLIP should pick
it up fairly easy. If interested check out the Fedora Wiki on the subject
at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Printing/HPLIP

Once installed usually can add through normal add printer , add network
printer scenario, but read documentation just to be sure for your own case.
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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Rick Stevens]

On 07/26/2016 07:54 AM, Manish Kathuria wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Tom Horsley  > wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:55:41 +0530
> Manish Kathuria wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone tried a similar thing or can give any suggestions ?
> 
> If the dlink box is running some variation of cups, then
> you might try connecting to 172.16.100.1:631
>  with a web
> server to see if the admin interface has any useful info.
> 
> Usually for network printers I have to use a ipp: url
> to print. Something like ipp://10.134.60.18/ipp
> 
> --
> 
> 
> The D-Link box is running a program called ippd and while they suggest
> specifying http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the printer, accessing
> http://172.16.100.1/ or http://172.16.100.1:631/printers through a
> browser does not show anything.
> 
> I did try using ipp://172.16.100.1/ipp  as the
> printer URI but it did not work.

Try browsing http://172.16.100.1:631
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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Manish Kathuria]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Tom Horsley  wrote:

> On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:55:41 +0530
> Manish Kathuria wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried a similar thing or can give any suggestions ?
>
> If the dlink box is running some variation of cups, then
> you might try connecting to 172.16.100.1:631 with a web
> server to see if the admin interface has any useful info.
>
> Usually for network printers I have to use a ipp: url
> to print. Something like ipp://10.134.60.18/ipp
> --
>
>
The D-Link box is running a program called ippd and while they suggest
specifying http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the printer, accessing
http://172.16.100.1/ or http://172.16.100.1:631/printers through a browser
does not show anything.

I did try using ipp://172.16.100.1/ipp as the printer URI but it did not
work.
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Re: Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 19:55:41 +0530
Manish Kathuria wrote:

> Has anyone tried a similar thing or can give any suggestions ?

If the dlink box is running some variation of cups, then
you might try connecting to 172.16.100.1:631 with a web
server to see if the admin interface has any useful info.

Usually for network printers I have to use a ipp: url
to print. Something like ipp://10.134.60.18/ipp
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Printing From Fedora to HP Laser Jet 1020 on D-Link Print Server

[Manish Kathuria]

I have a D-Link DSL 2750U Router which also has a USB Port that can be used
to connect a USB Printer and make the router work as a Print Server.  I
have been trying to print to a HP Laser Jet 1020 Printer using this print
server from Fedora 23/24. The D-Link documentation suggests specifying
http://172.16.100.1:631/printers/HP as the Printer URI. This configuration
works very well over the network while using a Windows system but it does
not print at all from the Fedora machine even after trying various
permutations and combinations. Also, the printer works fine when its
connected locally to the Fedora 24 system.

Has anyone tried a similar thing or can give any suggestions ?

This laser printer is a "special printer" and uses the foo2zjs driver (
http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/ ) to print on Linux and it loads a firmware on
the printer. The D-Linux DSL 2750U is also a Linux device and is running
ippd for this print server to work.  The printer is assigned the
/dev/usb/lp/lp0 device on the D-Link router. I could also find the firmware
for this printer on the router box under /etc/hotplug/firmware directory
and I assume it will be getting pushed to the printer when its connected.

TIA,

Manish Kathuria
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