Re: Problem with Gnome remaining offline

2019-06-09 Thread Robin Lee
On Sun, 2019-06-09 at 18:52 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 6/9/19 6:32 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 6/9/19 4:14 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
> > > > upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome
> > > > applications
> > > > like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because
> > > > they
> > > > think the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the
> > > > wifi
> > > > icon in the upper right hand side corner has a question mark
> > > > over it.
> > > > But in actuality the computer is online, I can use applications
> > > > like
> > > > Firefox normally. Also in Gnome Settings -> Wifi it tells me it
> > > > is
> > > > connected. 
> > > > 
> > > > First questions - can I some how tell applications like
> > > > Evolution and
> > > > Gnome Software to just ignore whether it thinks it is online or
> > > > offline?
> > > > 
> > > > Second question - how could I find out why Gnome thinks it is
> > > > offline?
> > > No suggestions?
> > I'm going to be vague since I can't find what I'm looking for,
> > but.  I recall that there
> > is a process which, if enabled, will periodically connect to a
> > fedoraproject server to
> > verify it is connected to the internet. 
> > 
> > I'm guessing you have that running and when on the VPN those checks
> > are being blocked.
> > 
> > Sorry, I can't be more specific but I recall either disabling or
> > erasing the package that
> > provided that.
> 
> The package I was thinking of is
> 
> [root@meimei ~]# dnf info NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora

Thanks! I removed it and the problems gone :)

Cheers
Robin


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Re: Problem with Gnome remaining offline

2019-06-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 6/9/19 6:32 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 6/9/19 4:14 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
>> On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
>>> I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
>>> upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
>>> like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they
>>> think the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the wifi
>>> icon in the upper right hand side corner has a question mark over it.
>>> But in actuality the computer is online, I can use applications like
>>> Firefox normally. Also in Gnome Settings -> Wifi it tells me it is
>>> connected. 
>>>
>>> First questions - can I some how tell applications like Evolution and
>>> Gnome Software to just ignore whether it thinks it is online or
>>> offline?
>>>
>>> Second question - how could I find out why Gnome thinks it is
>>> offline?
>> No suggestions?
> I'm going to be vague since I can't find what I'm looking for, but.  I recall 
> that there
> is a process which, if enabled, will periodically connect to a fedoraproject 
> server to
> verify it is connected to the internet. 
>
> I'm guessing you have that running and when on the VPN those checks are being 
> blocked.
>
> Sorry, I can't be more specific but I recall either disabling or erasing the 
> package that
> provided that.

The package I was thinking of is

[root@meimei ~]# dnf info NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora

Last metadata expiration check: 0:20:30 ago on Sun 09 Jun 2019 06:27:49 PM CST.
Available Packages
Name : NetworkManager-config-connectivity-fedora
Epoch    : 1
Version  : 1.16.0
Release  : 1.fc30
Architecture : noarch
Size : 14 k
Source   : NetworkManager-1.16.0-1.fc30.src.rpm
Repository   : fedora
Summary  : NetworkManager config file for connectivity checking via Fedora
 : servers
URL  : http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
License  : GPLv2+
Description  : This adds a NetworkManager configuration file to enable 
connectivity
 : checking via Fedora infrastructure.

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Re: Problem with Gnome remaining offline

2019-06-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2019-06-09 at 10:14 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
> > upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
> > like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they
> > think the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the wifi
> > icon in the upper right hand side corner has a question mark over it.
> > But in actuality the computer is online, I can use applications like
> > Firefox normally. Also in Gnome Settings -> Wifi it tells me it is
> > connected. 
> > 
> > First questions - can I some how tell applications like Evolution and
> > Gnome Software to just ignore whether it thinks it is online or
> > offline?
> > 
> > Second question - how could I find out why Gnome thinks it is
> > offline?
> 
> No suggestions?

The only time I've seen anything like this was specifically in
Evolution (which I use under KDE, not Gnome). It hasn't happened for a
a long time now but IIRC it was related to a misconfigured
NetworkManager. Gnome gets its "online" status by querying NM over
DBUS, so If you have scripts that sideline NM that could be the cause.

poc
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Re: Problem with Gnome remaining offline

2019-06-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 6/9/19 4:14 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
>> I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
>> upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
>> like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they
>> think the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the wifi
>> icon in the upper right hand side corner has a question mark over it.
>> But in actuality the computer is online, I can use applications like
>> Firefox normally. Also in Gnome Settings -> Wifi it tells me it is
>> connected. 
>>
>> First questions - can I some how tell applications like Evolution and
>> Gnome Software to just ignore whether it thinks it is online or
>> offline?
>>
>> Second question - how could I find out why Gnome thinks it is
>> offline?
> No suggestions?

I'm going to be vague since I can't find what I'm looking for, but.  I recall 
that there
is a process which, if enabled, will periodically connect to a fedoraproject 
server to
verify it is connected to the internet. 

I'm guessing you have that running and when on the VPN those checks are being 
blocked.

Sorry, I can't be more specific but I recall either disabling or erasing the 
package that
provided that.


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Re: Problem with Gnome remaining offline

2019-06-09 Thread Robin Lee
On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
> upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
> like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they
> think the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the wifi
> icon in the upper right hand side corner has a question mark over it.
> But in actuality the computer is online, I can use applications like
> Firefox normally. Also in Gnome Settings -> Wifi it tells me it is
> connected. 
> 
> First questions - can I some how tell applications like Evolution and
> Gnome Software to just ignore whether it thinks it is online or
> offline?
> 
> Second question - how could I find out why Gnome thinks it is
> offline?

No suggestions?
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Problem with Gnome remaining offline

2019-06-07 Thread Robin Lee
Hi

I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they think
the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the wifi icon in
the upper right hand side corner has a question mark over it. But in
actuality there is the computer is online, I can use applications like
Firefox normally. Also in Gnome Settings -> Wifi it tells me it is
connected. 

First questions - can I some how tell applications like Evolution and
Gnome Software to just ignore whether it thinks it is online or
offline?

Second question - how could I find out why Gnome thinks it is offline?

Cheers
Robin
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