Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/17/21 3:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/07/2021 06:15, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/14/21 12:52 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 20:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 The real BZ you could be writing is this. In previous versions of Plasma, when logging in to the graphic console the items in /etc/xdg/autostart/ would be honored. This would cause /etc/xdg/autostart/spice-vdagent.desktop to be executed and /usr/bin/spice-vdagent would be run. This provided integration between a VM guest and host. In the current version of Plasma, these entries are ignored. So, a user must know and execute /usr/bin/spice-vdagent in an alternative manner. Otherwise it is not possible, for example, to use the clipboard between host and guest. Hi Ed, Somebody else already tagged it: spice-vdagent does not start in plasma session https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1951580 Looks like a fix will be arriving shortly. You should now be able to install the fix by sudo dnf --refresh --enablerepo updates-testing update spice-vdagent plasma-workspace Then reboot. After testing, supply karma here after logging in. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-05fdb1456c Hi Ed, It worked. Yippee! Thank you again for all the help with this. -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 16/07/2021 06:15, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/14/21 12:52 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 20:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 The real BZ you could be writing is this. In previous versions of Plasma, when logging in to the graphic console the items in /etc/xdg/autostart/ would be honored. This would cause /etc/xdg/autostart/spice-vdagent.desktop to be executed and /usr/bin/spice-vdagent would be run. This provided integration between a VM guest and host. In the current version of Plasma, these entries are ignored. So, a user must know and execute /usr/bin/spice-vdagent in an alternative manner. Otherwise it is not possible, for example, to use the clipboard between host and guest. Hi Ed, Somebody else already tagged it: spice-vdagent does not start in plasma session https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1951580 Looks like a fix will be arriving shortly. You should now be able to install the fix by sudo dnf --refresh --enablerepo updates-testing update spice-vdagent plasma-workspace Then reboot. After testing, supply karma here after logging in. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-05fdb1456c -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 16/07/2021 06:15, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/14/21 12:52 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 20:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 The real BZ you could be writing is this. In previous versions of Plasma, when logging in to the graphic console the items in /etc/xdg/autostart/ would be honored. This would cause /etc/xdg/autostart/spice-vdagent.desktop to be executed and /usr/bin/spice-vdagent would be run. This provided integration between a VM guest and host. In the current version of Plasma, these entries are ignored. So, a user must know and execute /usr/bin/spice-vdagent in an alternative manner. Otherwise it is not possible, for example, to use the clipboard between host and guest. Hi Ed, Somebody else already tagged it: spice-vdagent does not start in plasma session https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1951580 Looks like a fix will be arriving shortly. :-) You may have to wait just a bit. The first new package doesn't actually fix anything. It just introduces a new system wide systemd user unit that can't possibly run. They still haven't decided on what would be the best "trigger". But they made the package, I think, just to prove that adding the unit doesn't break anything else. If you read the BZ I did make a change that does get it workingbut don't know if it will match what they are thinking. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/14/21 12:52 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 20:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 The real BZ you could be writing is this. In previous versions of Plasma, when logging in to the graphic console the items in /etc/xdg/autostart/ would be honored. This would cause /etc/xdg/autostart/spice-vdagent.desktop to be executed and /usr/bin/spice-vdagent would be run. This provided integration between a VM guest and host. In the current version of Plasma, these entries are ignored. So, a user must know and execute /usr/bin/spice-vdagent in an alternative manner. Otherwise it is not possible, for example, to use the clipboard between host and guest. Hi Ed, Somebody else already tagged it: spice-vdagent does not start in plasma session https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1951580 Looks like a fix will be arriving shortly. :-) -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 12/07/2021 20:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 The real BZ you could be writing is this. In previous versions of Plasma, when logging in to the graphic console the items in /etc/xdg/autostart/ would be honored. This would cause /etc/xdg/autostart/spice-vdagent.desktop to be executed and /usr/bin/spice-vdagent would be run. This provided integration between a VM guest and host. In the current version of Plasma, these entries are ignored. So, a user must know and execute /usr/bin/spice-vdagent in an alternative manner. Otherwise it is not possible, for example, to use the clipboard between host and guest. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 4:05 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Chuckle. That is what attracted me to Xfce to start with. I do no appreciate "OS" as "Playground": run my programs and get out of my way. I want stripped OS. Same here. When I learned what Gnome 3 was going to be like I started looking for a DE that wasn't so heavy weight and that allowed me to customize it without fighting back and have been happily running Xfce ever since. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:56 AM, Tim via users wrote: I use MATE, it's simple and doesn't weigh my system down just managing the desktop. I actually want to use the computer. Chuckle. That is what attracted me to Xfce to start with. I do no appreciate "OS" as "Playground": run my programs and get out of my way. I want stripped OS. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 16:22, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/13/21 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. It is a pain client to host. internally it seems okay Maybe on bare metal it is better. But in a Plasma on Wayland VM I have problems with cursor accuracy. Don't know if the attached small image will make it the list. But I moused over the 0 to try copy it and as you can see the word "Used" above it was selected. That doesn't happen in the same VM when running Plasma Xorg. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:31 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. It is a pain client to host. internally it seems okay ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 15:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:48 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. Oh, I suppose I need to revise my signature to reflect that I'm a Long Time KDE user with no intention to switch. :-) If you're making comments about Wayland, you need to specify which implementation. So your original comment should have been "Clipboard on Plasma Wayland is a PITA". Then I would have thought, "that's unfortunate", and moved on without making a reply. ;-) Well, with the Subject being what it is I thought the connection was obvious. Oh, well. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
Tim: >>> Have you tried MATE? ToddAndMargo: >> Yes I did and liked it. So far, the only desktop >> I have not liked is gnome. It is just too weird >> for me. And I MUST have my task bar to torture >> recklessly. Samuel Sieb: > Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I tried that, and while it tries to look like the old Gnome, it wasn't quite there, and too CPU intensive on my machine. I use MATE, it's simple and doesn't weigh my system down just managing the desktop. I actually want to use the computer. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 10 13:32:12 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:48 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. Oh, I suppose I need to revise my signature to reflect that I'm a Long Time KDE user with no intention to switch. :-) If you're making comments about Wayland, you need to specify which implementation. So your original comment should have been "Clipboard on Plasma Wayland is a PITA". Then I would have thought, "that's unfortunate", and moved on without making a reply. ;-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 15:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. Oh, I suppose I need to revise my signature to reflect that I'm a Long Time KDE user with no intention to switch. :-) -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/13/21 12:41 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers Oh, KDE, no idea. But that has worked for a long time on Gnome. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. I've not tried it in quite a while. But, if I recall correctly, one could not simply highlight text in a knosole window and use a mouse click to paste. Had to use Ctr-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V. There were other things on this list that caused issues for me. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Wayland_Showstoppers -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. In what way? I use Wayland on everything now and don't have any problems. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 11:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 14:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: At the KDE login screen the options are at the bottom left. Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. The guys over on the qemu-kvm mailing gave me this link on the continuing efforts to get spice guest to work with it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3557 They also said Wayland and spice are "tricky". Thanks for the link. But I don't see myself using Wayland in the foreseeable future. And, I have put Wayland almost totally out of my mind. Oh my short experience with it make me shutter! No wonder the Xfce developers told me probably never. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 14:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: At the KDE login screen the options are at the bottom left. Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. The guys over on the qemu-kvm mailing gave me this link on the continuing efforts to get spice guest to work with it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3557 They also said Wayland and spice are "tricky". Thanks for the link. But I don't see myself using Wayland in the foreseeable future. And, I have put Wayland almost totally out of my mind. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 7:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: At the KDE login screen the options are at the bottom left. Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. The guys over on the qemu-kvm mailing gave me this link on the continuing efforts to get spice guest to work with it https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3557 They also said Wayland and spice are "tricky". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 10:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:54 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: KDE Xorg (MUST be Xorg and NOT Wayland) Wayland or X11: KDE: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Type=wayland Xfce: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Type=x11 Gnome: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Failed to get session path: No session '2' known I am drawing a blank with DuckDuckGo on how to switch back to Xorg. Xfce is all X11 and it is very smooth. The developers told me they have no intention of support Wayland as it is too buggy for them At the KDE login screen the options are at the bottom left. Clipboard on Wayland is a PITA. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 6:54 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: KDE Xorg (MUST be Xorg and NOT Wayland) Wayland or X11: KDE: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Type=wayland Xfce: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Type=x11 Gnome: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Failed to get session path: No session '2' known I am drawing a blank with DuckDuckGo on how to switch back to Xorg. Xfce is all X11 and it is very smooth. The developers told me they have no intention of support Wayland as it is too buggy for them Will open a new thread on this one too ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 6:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 09:35, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. What am I missing? https://ibb.co/SPSdb6h Probably right under my nose too. :'( I don't know. Except I don't see the "PASSWORD" area. https://tinyurl.com/yha3wmdr I see yours. H. Well, I see you've typed in the user name. So, hit return to get to the PASSWORD prompt. https://ibb.co/dpfJvfX I don't know much about debugging GNOME. But you should have the following which determine what selections are available. [egreshko@f34g ~]$ ls /usr/share/xsessions/ gnome-classic.desktop gnome.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop [egreshko@f34g ~]$ ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions/ gnome.desktop Mine are identical If those exist, why you're not getting those options is unknown to me. Probably a good idea to start a new thread about that and hope there is a Gnome person. Will do I assume this is a VM. I only say that since the selections available in a KDE Bare Metal environment with nVidia drivers is affected by the existence of the kernel boot option of modprobe. Thank you for all the help today! -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 6:33 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: KDE Xorg (MUST be Xorg and NOT Wayland) Wayland or X11: KDE: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Type=wayland Xfce: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Type=x11 Gnome: $ loginctl show-session 2 -p Type Failed to get session path: No session '2' known I am drawing a blank with DuckDuckGo on how to switch back to Xorg. Xfce is all X11 and it is very smooth. The developers told me they have no intention of support Wayland as it is too buggy for them ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 09:35, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. What am I missing? https://ibb.co/SPSdb6h Probably right under my nose too. :'( I don't know. Except I don't see the "PASSWORD" area. https://tinyurl.com/yha3wmdr I see yours. H. Well, I see you've typed in the user name. So, hit return to get to the PASSWORD prompt. https://ibb.co/dpfJvfX I don't know much about debugging GNOME. But you should have the following which determine what selections are available. [egreshko@f34g ~]$ ls /usr/share/xsessions/ gnome-classic.desktop gnome.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop [egreshko@f34g ~]$ ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions/ gnome.desktop If those exist, why you're not getting those options is unknown to me. Probably a good idea to start a new thread about that and hope there is a Gnome person. I assume this is a VM. I only say that since the selections available in a KDE Bare Metal environment with nVidia drivers is affected by the existence of the kernel boot option of modprobe. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 6:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. What am I missing? https://ibb.co/SPSdb6h Probably right under my nose too. :'( I don't know. Except I don't see the "PASSWORD" area. https://tinyurl.com/yha3wmdr I see yours. H. Well, I see you've typed in the user name. So, hit return to get to the PASSWORD prompt. https://ibb.co/dpfJvfX ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 09:18, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:45, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I asked you to reboot and show the status as I've shown above. I did not, and I don't care about your "enable" try. If you're not willing to do that. I'm not willing to continue. Simple, straight forward. Sorry missed that Here you go (both fresh power on boots): KDE VM: # systemctl status spice-vdagentd ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indire> Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket You are missing output since you didn't use the "--no-pager" option. Use. systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service $ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket I am not seeing any difference. I have to web eMail myself these things as the clipboard is not working Well, the difference is that the service is "enabled". So, no need to enable. Now, do this Add this to the end of your ~/.bashrc file /usr/bin/spice-vdagent Then, just for fun, reboot.and login. Then, check to see ps -eaf | grep spice And is your clipboard working. It did not; mouse still confined too Running it from kconsole unconfined my mouse, but the clipboard was still not working. I am not seeing a way to run a program in KDE outside a shell, like I can in Xfce. The words "it did not" tells me nothing. Ater adding that line to my .bashrc and loging into KDE Xorg (MUST be Xorg and NOT Wayland) as spice-vdagent is an X utility. (I think I failed to mention Xorg v.s. Wayland as I've erased Wayland from my mind. Sorry if that is the case) [egreshko@f34k ~]$ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service ● spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-07-13 09:29:03 CST; 50s ago TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket Process: 1951 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd $SPICE_VDAGENTD_EXTRA_ARGS (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 1953 (spice-vdagentd) Tasks: 3 (limit: 2329) Memory: 912.0K CPU: 97ms CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.service └─1953 /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd Jul 13 09:29:03 f34k.greshko.com systemd[1]: Starting Agent daemon for Spice guests... Jul 13 09:29:03 f34k.greshko.com systemd[1]: Started Agent daemon for Spice guests. Jul 13 09:29:04 f34k.greshko.com spice-vdagentd[1953]: opening vdagent virtio channel Jul 13 09:29:04 f34k.greshko.com spice-vdagentd[1953]: Set max clipboard: 104857600 Jul 13 09:29:04 f34k.greshko.com spice-vdagentd[1953]: Set max clipboard: 104857600 Jul 13 09:29:35 f34k.greshko.com spice-vdagentd[1953]: An agent is already connected for this session Jul 13 09:29:35 f34k.greshko.com spice-vdagentd[1953]: An agent is already connected for this session (those last 2 lines are due to the crude way of starting the agent) [egreshko@f34k ~]$ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.socket ● spice-vdagentd.socket - Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.socket; static) Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-07-13 08:34:24 CST; 55min ago Triggers: ● spice-vdagentd.service Listen: /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock (Stream) CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.socket Jul 13 08:34:24 f34k.greshko.com systemd[1]: Listening on Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 6:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:45, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I asked you to reboot and show the status as I've shown above. I did not, and I don't care about your "enable" try. If you're not willing to do that. I'm not willing to continue. Simple, straight forward. Sorry missed that Here you go (both fresh power on boots): KDE VM: # systemctl status spice-vdagentd ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indire> Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket You are missing output since you didn't use the "--no-pager" option. Use. systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service $ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket I am not seeing any difference. I have to web eMail myself these things as the clipboard is not working Well, the difference is that the service is "enabled". So, no need to enable. Now, do this Add this to the end of your ~/.bashrc file /usr/bin/spice-vdagent Then, just for fun, reboot.and login. Then, check to see ps -eaf | grep spice And is your clipboard working. It did not; mouse still confined too Running it from kconsole unconfined my mouse, but the clipboard was still not working. I am not seeing a way to run a program in KDE outside a shell, like I can in Xfce. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 08:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. What am I missing? https://ibb.co/SPSdb6h Probably right under my nose too. :'( I don't know. Except I don't see the "PASSWORD" area. https://tinyurl.com/yha3wmdr I see yours. H. Well, I see you've typed in the user name. So, hit return to get to the PASSWORD prompt. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 08:45, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I asked you to reboot and show the status as I've shown above. I did not, and I don't care about your "enable" try. If you're not willing to do that. I'm not willing to continue. Simple, straight forward. Sorry missed that Here you go (both fresh power on boots): KDE VM: # systemctl status spice-vdagentd ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indire> Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket You are missing output since you didn't use the "--no-pager" option. Use. systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service $ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket I am not seeing any difference. I have to web eMail myself these things as the clipboard is not working Well, the difference is that the service is "enabled". So, no need to enable. Now, do this Add this to the end of your ~/.bashrc file /usr/bin/spice-vdagent Then, just for fun, reboot.and login. Then, check to see ps -eaf | grep spice And is your clipboard working. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 5:35 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I asked you to reboot and show the status as I've shown above. I did not, and I don't care about your "enable" try. If you're not willing to do that. I'm not willing to continue. Simple, straight forward. Sorry missed that Here you go (both fresh power on boots): KDE VM: # systemctl status spice-vdagentd ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indire> Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket You are missing output since you didn't use the "--no-pager" option. Use. systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service $ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket I am not seeing any difference. I have to web eMail myself these things as the clipboard is not working -- ~ When we ask for advice, we are usually looking for an accomplice. -- Charles Varlet de La Grange ~ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 5:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 08:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. What am I missing? https://ibb.co/SPSdb6h Probably right under my nose too. :'( I don't know. Except I don't see the "PASSWORD" area. https://tinyurl.com/yha3wmdr I see yours. H. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 08:28, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I asked you to reboot and show the status as I've shown above. I did not, and I don't care about your "enable" try. If you're not willing to do that. I'm not willing to continue. Simple, straight forward. Sorry missed that Here you go (both fresh power on boots): KDE VM: # systemctl status spice-vdagentd ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indire> Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket You are missing output since you didn't use the "--no-pager" option. Use. systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.service -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:50 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I asked you to reboot and show the status as I've shown above. I did not, and I don't care about your "enable" try. If you're not willing to do that. I'm not willing to continue. Simple, straight forward. Sorry missed that Here you go (both fresh power on boots): KDE VM: # systemctl status spice-vdagentd ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indire> Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket Gnome VM: # systemctl status spice-vdagentd ● spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; > Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-07-12 15:17:32 PDT; 2h 1min ago TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket Process: 1190 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd $SPICE_VDAGENTD_EXTRA_ARGS> Main PID: 1195 (spice-vdagentd) Tasks: 3 (limit: 2329) Memory: 836.0K CPU: 1.125s CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.service └─1195 /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd Jul 12 17:04:51 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: Error getting active session: No d> Jul 12 17:04:51 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: Error getting active session: No d> Jul 12 17:04:51 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: Error getting active session: No d> Jul 12 17:04:53 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: opening vdagent virtio channel Jul 12 17:04:53 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: Set max clipboard: 104857600 Jul 12 17:04:53 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: Set max clipboard: 104857600 Jul 12 17:18:31 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: closed vdagent virtio channel Jul 12 17:18:34 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: opening vdagent virtio channel Jul 12 17:18:34 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: Set max clipboard: 104857600 Jul 12 17:18:34 fedora spice-vdagentd[1195]: Set max clipboard: 104857600 Xfce (VM): $ systemctl status spice-vdagentd ● spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; enabled; v> Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-07-12 17:27:57 PDT; 12s ago TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket Process: 1191 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd $SPICE_VDAGENTD_EXTRA_ARGS> Main PID: 1193 (spice-vdagentd) Tasks: 3 (limit: 2330) Memory: 920.0K CPU: 30ms CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.service └─1193 /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd HTH, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 08:07, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. What am I missing? https://ibb.co/SPSdb6h Probably right under my nose too. :'( I don't know. Except I don't see the "PASSWORD" area. https://tinyurl.com/yha3wmdr -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. What am I missing? https://ibb.co/SPSdb6h Probably right under my nose too. :'( ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 06:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 2:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:37 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I am curious. Can you point me to a write up on how to do that? Install "gnome-classic-session" and then you will have a new option in the session list on the login screen. $ su root -c "dnf install gnome-classic-session" Password: Fedora Modular 34 - x86_64 - Updates 30 kB/s | 11 kB 00:00 Fedora 34 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 12 kB 00:00 Fedora 34 - x86_64 - Updates 382 kB/s | 1.9 MB 00:05 Package gnome-classic-session-40.0-1.fc34.noarch is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! It is already installed. What next? At the gdm login screen, when you click on a user, you will see a area to enter the password. You will also see a "gear" at the lower right of the screen. Clicking on that will give you the desktop options. GNOME Wayland GNOME Xorg GNOME Classic Maybe not in that order. Pick the one you want. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 06:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: There is no need to enable it. I've never enabled it. You never had to as the rpm post install script takes care of it for you To see if yours is enabled, do a $ ls -al /etc/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.target.wants/spice-vdagentd.service lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 46 Nov 5 2017 /etc/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.target.wants/spice-vdagentd.service -> /usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service NOPE [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ ls -al /etc/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.target.wants/spice-vdagentd.service ls: cannot access '/etc/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.target.wants/spice-vdagentd.service': No such file or directory And yet [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ systemctl --no-pager status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket Notice the word "enabled"? And notice that it is triggered by the socket? And also, notice the socket is listening? That, is the most important item. [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ systemctl --no-pager -l status spice-vdagentd.socket ● spice-vdagentd.socket - Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.socket; static) Active: active (listening) since Tue 2021-07-13 07:40:04 CST; 5min ago Triggers: ● spice-vdagentd.service Listen: /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock (Stream) CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.socket Jul 13 07:40:04 f34k2.greshko.com systemd[1]: Listening on Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon. # systemctl enable spice-vdagentd I asked you to reboot and show the status as I've shown above. I did not, and I don't care about your "enable" try. If you're not willing to do that. I'm not willing to continue. Simple, straight forward. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 2:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: There is no need to enable it. I've never enabled it. You never had to as the rpm post install script takes care of it for you To see if yours is enabled, do a $ ls -al /etc/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.target.wants/spice-vdagentd.service lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 46 Nov 5 2017 /etc/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.target.wants/spice-vdagentd.service -> /usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service This is the same on everyone of my Fedora machines, except KDE. And it means the link was created when it was enabled by systemctl. > And, you've not shown any evidence of crashing you've only > stated it. Uhhh. I copied the error message from systemctl. In case you missed it: # systemctl enable spice-vdagentd The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy=, RequiredBy=, Also=, Alias= settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance= for template units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. Possible reasons for having this kind of units are: • A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's .wants/ or .requires/ directory. • A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has a requirement dependency on it. • A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer, D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). • In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some instance name specified. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 2:56 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 2:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:37 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I am curious. Can you point me to a write up on how to do that? Install "gnome-classic-session" and then you will have a new option in the session list on the login screen. $ su root -c "dnf install gnome-classic-session" Password: Fedora Modular 34 - x86_64 - Updates 30 kB/s | 11 kB 00:00 Fedora 34 - x86_64 - Updates 33 kB/s | 12 kB 00:00 Fedora 34 - x86_64 - Updates382 kB/s | 1.9 MB 00:05 Package gnome-classic-session-40.0-1.fc34.noarch is already installed. Dependencies resolved. Nothing to do. Complete! It is already installed. What next? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 2:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 2:37 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I am curious. Can you point me to a write up on how to do that? Install "gnome-classic-session" and then you will have a new option in the session list on the login screen. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 2:37 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I am curious. Can you point me to a write up on how to do that? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 2:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/07/2021 05:37, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 1:31 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 03:53 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I also am curious as to how gnome and kde work. Kde seems very polished. gnome is just to weird to use. I have to have my task bar. Task bars have shed tears after meeting me! Have you tried MATE? Yes I did and liked it. So far, the only desktop I have not liked is gnome. It is just too weird for me. And I MUST have my task bar to torture recklessly. Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I had thought that his reason for trying out different desktops is due to issues with notification of osmo. Indeed Well, osmo under gnome-classic has the same issue as osmo under gnome (xorg). The notifications pop-ups of osmo are all stacked one on-top of the other. So, if you have several notifications and you've not dealt with them as they happened you'll just see one. And, all the others will disappear when you interact with the one on top. You can change the settings of notifications for osmo to disable pop-ups. But then you just get the dot at the top of the screen like you get when software updates are available. Clicking on the dot will show the list of notifications. To me, osmo seems not well integrated with most desktops. The best I've seen is in KDE. -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 05:37, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/12/21 1:31 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 03:53 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I also am curious as to how gnome and kde work. Kde seems very polished. gnome is just to weird to use. I have to have my task bar. Task bars have shed tears after meeting me! Have you tried MATE? Yes I did and liked it. So far, the only desktop I have not liked is gnome. It is just too weird for me. And I MUST have my task bar to torture recklessly. Have you tried the gnome-classic session? I had thought that his reason for trying out different desktops is due to issues with notification of osmo. Well, osmo under gnome-classic has the same issue as osmo under gnome (xorg). The notifications pop-ups of osmo are all stacked one on-top of the other. So, if you have several notifications and you've not dealt with them as they happened you'll just see one. And, all the others will disappear when you interact with the one on top. You can change the settings of notifications for osmo to disable pop-ups. But then you just get the dot at the top of the screen like you get when software updates are available. Clicking on the dot will show the list of notifications. To me, osmo seems not well integrated with most desktops. The best I've seen is in KDE. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 1:31 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 6:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 03:53 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I also am curious as to how gnome and kde work. Kde seems very polished. gnome is just to weird to use. I have to have my task bar. Task bars have shed tears after meeting me! Have you tried MATE? Yes I did and liked it. So far, the only desktop I have not liked is gnome. It is just too weird for me. And I MUST have my task bar to torture recklessly. Have you tried the gnome-classic session? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 13/07/2021 04:40, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Not until `# systemctl enable spice-vdagent` stops crashing. There is no need to enable it. I've never enabled it. And, you've not shown any evidence of crashing you've only stated it. I have shown that it gets enabled by, I think, either udev or dbus. As I said. Just reboot your system and then show the status of systemctl status spice-vdagentd.service and systemctl status spice-vdagentd.socket Unless you show your work, there isn't much to comment on. Then, also do "ps -eaf | grep spice". [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ ps -eaf | grep spice egreshko 2551 2519 0 05:28 pts/2 00:00:00 grep --color=auto spice Nothing is runnng And you probably can't copy/paste from host to guest. Then in the guest's konsole type "spice-vdagent" and hit return. It will proceed to run in the background. Then you'll see.. [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ ps -eaf | grep spice egreshko 2565 1820 0 05:31 ? 00:00:00 spice-vdagent root 2569 1 0 05:31 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/spice-vdagentd egreshko 2596 2519 0 05:32 pts/2 00:00:00 grep --color=auto spice And your clipboard will be working. I've been doing the crud method of putting /usr/bin/spice-vdagent in my .bashrc. I'm wanting to change it into a systemd unit but have run into and issue that I need to investigate more. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 7:22 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 20:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:29 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:03 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 04:12 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! Is the VM running full-screen or in a window? If the latter, click anywhere outside the window and you should be in KDE. If the former, switch to a different virtual desktop, or exit the full-screen mode first (hover over the centre top of the screen and you should see a pop-up). Alternatively, use a keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktops. poc In a window. I run EVERYTHING in a window. And everything seems to be working if I manually start spcie-vdagent Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link # systemctl enable spice-vdagentd The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy=, RequiredBy=, Also=, Alias= settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance= for template units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. Possible reasons for having this kind of units are: • A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's .wants/ or .requires/ directory. • A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has a requirement dependency on it. • A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer, D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). • In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some instance name specified. I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 If you have a properly installed KDE system you'd find the following when you logged in. I installed to a blank hard drive (love gparted) directly from the ISO. I did not do ANYTHING to the installer other than run it. Something must be wrong installer. And I let the ISO boot do its check thing too. It passed [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ systemctl status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ systemctl status spice-vdagentd.socket ● spice-vdagentd.socket - Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.socket; static) Active: active (listening) since Mon 2021-07-12 20:44:10 CST; 1h 19min ago Triggers: ● spice-vdagentd.service Listen: /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock (Stream) CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.socket Jul 12 20:44:10 f34k2.greshko.com systemd[1]: Listening on Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon. Take note of what your "enable" message is telling you. The issue with the clipboard and KDE is that unlike GNOME there is no startup of spice-vdagent when the user logs in. vdagent is running is gnome or I would have noticed in very, very short order. If you run that command from the command line in konsole you will find your clipboard working just fine between host and guest. `# systemctl start spice-vdagent` does indeed fix the mouse and the clipboard problem. And after starting it, the status does match what you copied me above. I played with kconsole a bit. It is just really slow copying to the host's clipboard. If I want to speed things up, I copy from kconsole to a leafpad in the client, then I can copy to a leafpad in the host. :-) Got to have my clipboard! You should withdraw your BZ. Not until `# systemctl enable spice-vdagent` stops crashing. -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 6:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 03:53 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I also am curious as to how gnome and kde work. Kde seems very polished. gnome is just to weird to use. I have to have my task bar. Task bars have shed tears after meeting me! Have you tried MATE? Yes I did and liked it. So far, the only desktop I have not liked is gnome. It is just too weird for me. And I MUST have my task bar to torture recklessly. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 12/07/2021 20:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:29 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:03 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 04:12 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! Is the VM running full-screen or in a window? If the latter, click anywhere outside the window and you should be in KDE. If the former, switch to a different virtual desktop, or exit the full-screen mode first (hover over the centre top of the screen and you should see a pop-up). Alternatively, use a keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktops. poc In a window. I run EVERYTHING in a window. And everything seems to be working if I manually start spcie-vdagent Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link # systemctl enable spice-vdagentd The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy=, RequiredBy=, Also=, Alias= settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance= for template units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. Possible reasons for having this kind of units are: • A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's .wants/ or .requires/ directory. • A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has a requirement dependency on it. • A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer, D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). • In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some instance name specified. I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 If you have a properly installed KDE system you'd find the following when you logged in. [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ systemctl status spice-vdagentd.service ○ spice-vdagentd.service - Agent daemon for Spice guests Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.service; indirect; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: ● spice-vdagentd.socket [egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ systemctl status spice-vdagentd.socket ● spice-vdagentd.socket - Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/spice-vdagentd.socket; static) Active: active (listening) since Mon 2021-07-12 20:44:10 CST; 1h 19min ago Triggers: ● spice-vdagentd.service Listen: /run/spice-vdagentd/spice-vdagent-sock (Stream) CGroup: /system.slice/spice-vdagentd.socket Jul 12 20:44:10 f34k2.greshko.com systemd[1]: Listening on Activation socket for spice guest agent daemon. Take note of what your "enable" message is telling you. The issue with the clipboard and KDE is that unlike GNOME there is no startup of spice-vdagent when the user logs in. If you run that command from the command line in konsole you will find your clipboard working just fine between host and guest. You should withdraw your BZ. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 03:53 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I also am curious as to how gnome and kde work. > Kde seems very polished. gnome is just to > weird to use. I have to have my task bar. > Task bars have shed tears after meeting me! Have you tried MATE? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.31.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 10 13:32:12 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 5:29 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 5:03 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 04:12 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! Is the VM running full-screen or in a window? If the latter, click anywhere outside the window and you should be in KDE. If the former, switch to a different virtual desktop, or exit the full-screen mode first (hover over the centre top of the screen and you should see a pop-up). Alternatively, use a keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktops. poc In a window. I run EVERYTHING in a window. And everything seems to be working if I manually start spcie-vdagent Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link # systemctl enable spice-vdagentd The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy=, RequiredBy=, Also=, Alias= settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance= for template units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. Possible reasons for having this kind of units are: • A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's .wants/ or .requires/ directory. • A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has a requirement dependency on it. • A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer, D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). • In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some instance name specified. I just posted: KDE: Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981338 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 5:03 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 04:12 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! Is the VM running full-screen or in a window? If the latter, click anywhere outside the window and you should be in KDE. If the former, switch to a different virtual desktop, or exit the full-screen mode first (hover over the centre top of the screen and you should see a pop-up). Alternatively, use a keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktops. poc In a window. I run EVERYTHING in a window. And everything seems to be working if I manually start spcie-vdagent Something is stopping systemctl from creating the start up link # systemctl enable spice-vdagentd The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy=, RequiredBy=, Also=, Alias= settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance= for template units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. Possible reasons for having this kind of units are: • A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's .wants/ or .requires/ directory. • A unit's purpose may be to act as a helper for some other unit which has a requirement dependency on it. • A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer, D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). • In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some instance name specified. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:55 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 04:12 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! Is the VM running full-screen or in a window? If the latter, click anywhere outside the window and you should be in KDE. If the former, switch to a different virtual desktop, or exit the full-screen mode first (hover over the centre top of the screen and you should see a pop-up). Alternatively, use a keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktops. poc In a window. I run EVERYTHING in a window. And everything seems to be working if I manually start spcie-vdagent ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:44 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:28 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:12 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:10 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-11 at 20:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! :-) Spice-vdagent is installed (on KDE). If it helps, the clipboard does not work between the host and the client either. This is cured with Windows clarinets by installing spice guest tools. spice-vdagent is the guest tools for Linux. manually running spice-vdagent fixes the confinement problem, but not the clipboard. Not to find out how Now typo to start spice-vdagent at boot I take that back on the clipboard. It is the kconsole that won't clip back and forth. Everything else does ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On Mon, 2021-07-12 at 04:12 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > > How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse > > > > not to be confined. > > > > > > Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. > > > > > > poc > > > > Hi Patrick, > > > > AWESOME!!! Thank you! > > > > The writing on the top of the vm still says the L > > > > -T > > It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, > but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. > So one step forward, one to go! Is the VM running full-screen or in a window? If the latter, click anywhere outside the window and you should be in KDE. If the former, switch to a different virtual desktop, or exit the full-screen mode first (hover over the centre top of the screen and you should see a pop-up). Alternatively, use a keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktops. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:28 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:12 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:10 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-11 at 20:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! :-) Spice-vdagent is installed (on KDE). If it helps, the clipboard does not work between the host and the client either. This is cured with Windows clarinets by installing spice guest tools. spice-vdagent is the guest tools for Linux. manually running spice-vdagent fixes the confinement problem, but not the clipboard. Not to find out how to start spice-vdagent at boot ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:20 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 18:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And I do beieve you are correct about this being a specific Xfce issue with libnotify. That is not what I said. Go back and check again. This is what I was referring to: On 7/11/21 12:34 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Since libnotify interfaces with the desktop's notify daemon > I would look more towards xfce4-notifyd. I mixed up the threads somewhat. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:12 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:10 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-11 at 20:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! :-) Spice-vdagent is installed (on KDE). If it helps, the clipboard does not work between the host and the client either. This is cured with Windows clarinets by installing spice guest tools. spice-vdagent is the guest tools for Linux. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 12/07/2021 18:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And I do beieve you are correct about this being a specific Xfce issue with libnotify. That is not what I said. Go back and check again. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:10 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/12/21 4:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-11 at 20:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T It does let me out without triggering KDE's screen lock, but getting back into KDE and the mouse gets confined again. So one step forward, one to go! :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/12/21 4:06 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2021-07-11 at 20:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc Hi Patrick, AWESOME!!! Thank you! The writing on the top of the vm still says the L -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On Sun, 2021-07-11 at 20:06 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso > on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. > > Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless > I throw . But when I do so, KDE also > logs me out and I have to log back into KDE > every time and my mouse gets re-confined. > > This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it > on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, > or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. > > How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse > not to be confined. Ctrl-Alt (without the L) works for me. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/11/21 10:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 13:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/11/21 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 12:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/11/21 9:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Why don't you just create a new VM and install as normal? The clone is only 36 GB I did the same thing with gnome and the mouse is not confined. And I will probably erase them both in a week or so. Well, then you can live with the current condition if you're not willing to try and create a new VM from the start. I'd rather not waste time trying to solve an issue that will be thrown away in short order. Hi Ed, I am not sure why you took offense. I cloned a Fedora VM becasue i was all set up the way it would be if I had set it up from scratch for another Fedora VM. So I had thought I had already done what you suggested. And I truly meant no offense. I didn't take offense. I just don't see any upside to working on this small issue that will be thrown away in a week. I've never done the procedure you've done and never will. I find it best to always start clean. So, if that isn't what you're interested in doing. Then I don't have any additional suggestions and don't think it is worth the time to try and fix this minor problem that won't exist in a week or so. Simple, and factual, as that. Hi Ed, Over the multiple years, I have tweaked and played around with the VM setups a lot. I cloned as I did not want to recreate the wheel, when I had a great working wheel to start with. I am gathering information as to the Osmo pop up issue. After that I will no longer need it. I essentially will have to answer questions about the bug reports, so I will need them around for that until they reproduce on their own, at which time I will recover the space. I have a VM of Ubuntu Xfce kicking around to, I will probably recover the space for that too. I just do not care for Ubuntu. Ubuntu Xfce does not confine my mouse either. I also am curious as to how gnome and kde work. Kde seems very polished. gnome is just to weird to use. I have to have my task bar. Task bars have shed tears after meeting me! Xfce still seems the best for the way I operate. Xfce does have a bunch of annoying bugs that can't either be fixed or won't fix. But they are minor considering the alternatives. As far as the confining of the mouse goes, all will do this (including my various Windows VMs) until the full os is in force. ctl-alt-L get me out if I am impatient, but none of the other will screen lock when I do. And as I have stated before, I removed the ctl-alt-L screen lock keystroke in kde and it made no difference. I kind of like the way kde came out, so I may create an new hard drive and start over at some point and keep it around. I need the practice in setting up the drive partitions. Also, I have two VM's for booting off of standard, eufi USB flash drives and one for booting off of ISOs, so I can always boot into all the live ISOs I have. And I do beieve you are correct about this being a specific Xfce issue with libnotify. Thank you for all the help so far. :-) -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 12/07/2021 13:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/11/21 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 12:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/11/21 9:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Why don't you just create a new VM and install as normal? The clone is only 36 GB I did the same thing with gnome and the mouse is not confined. And I will probably erase them both in a week or so. Well, then you can live with the current condition if you're not willing to try and create a new VM from the start. I'd rather not waste time trying to solve an issue that will be thrown away in short order. Hi Ed, I am not sure why you took offense. I cloned a Fedora VM becasue i was all set up the way it would be if I had set it up from scratch for another Fedora VM. So I had thought I had already done what you suggested. And I truly meant no offense. I didn't take offense. I just don't see any upside to working on this small issue that will be thrown away in a week. I've never done the procedure you've done and never will. I find it best to always start clean. So, if that isn't what you're interested in doing. Then I don't have any additional suggestions and don't think it is worth the time to try and fix this minor problem that won't exist in a week or so. Simple, and factual, as that. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/11/21 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 12:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/11/21 9:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Why don't you just create a new VM and install as normal? The clone is only 36 GB I did the same thing with gnome and the mouse is not confined. And I will probably erase them both in a week or so. Well, then you can live with the current condition if you're not willing to try and create a new VM from the start. I'd rather not waste time trying to solve an issue that will be thrown away in short order. Hi Ed, I am not sure why you took offense. I cloned a Fedora VM becasue i was all set up the way it would be if I had set it up from scratch for another Fedora VM. So I had thought I had already done what you suggested. And I truly meant no offense. I have KDE's Appearance, screen lock, shortcut key set to none. No symptom change ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 12/07/2021 12:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 7/11/21 9:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Why don't you just create a new VM and install as normal? The clone is only 36 GB I did the same thing with gnome and the mouse is not confined. And I will probably erase them both in a week or so. Well, then you can live with the current condition if you're not willing to try and create a new VM from the start. I'd rather not waste time trying to solve an issue that will be thrown away in short order. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/11/21 9:08 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Why don't you just create a new VM and install as normal? The clone is only 36 GB I did the same thing with gnome and the mouse is not confined. And I will probably erase them both in a week or so. -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 12/07/2021 11:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I cloned my FC34 Xfce VM. Then booted off the ISO and erased the virtual disk. Then did the install Why don't you just create a new VM and install as normal? FWIW, you should also consider creating a disk image for the vm using qemu-img. That way you can create a sparse image that will automatically increase as the disk is used. For example. Creating a 32GB qcow2 image will initially show on the host system as -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 197120 Jul 12 12:04 f34lxdm.qcow2 Are you using qemu-kvm or virtual box? Well, considering that I asked you about your mouse type and it matches mine that should tell you what I'm using. I rarely using virtual box. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 7/11/21 8:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/07/2021 11:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Zero problems with any of my VMs, including 8 VM's of various flavor which were installed using KDE as their base. How did you install your VM? When did you do it under virt-manager and did you identify the live image as being Fedora 34? I seem to remember that virt-manager doesn't auto detect the live image as Fedora and you need to manually select it. Then, what is the XML for your VM's mouse? All of mine are I cloned my FC34 Xfce VM. Then booted off the ISO and erased the virtual disk. Then did the install Are you using qemu-kvm or virtual box? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
On 12/07/2021 11:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Zero problems with any of my VMs, including 8 VM's of various flavor which were installed using KDE as their base. How did you install your VM? When did you do it under virt-manager and did you identify the live image as being Fedora 34? I seem to remember that virt-manager doesn't auto detect the live image as Fedora and you need to manually select it. Then, what is the XML for your VM's mouse? All of mine are -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Qemu-kvm KDE VM steels my mouse
Hi All, I just installed Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-34-1.2.iso on an qemu-kvm virtual machine. Problem: my mouse is confined to the VM, unless I throw . But when I do so, KDE also logs me out and I have to log back into KDE every time and my mouse gets re-confined. This behavior is unique to KDE's VM, as it does not do it on Windows 7, Windows 10, Windows 11, Fedora 34 Xfce, or (weird old) Fedora Gnome VM's. How do I stop this behavour in KDE? I need to mouse not to be confined. Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
