Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
On 11/5/22 15:27, andreas.fourn...@runbox.com wrote: So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to the naked eye. If the disk is not visible anymore, no tool can help you, it is likely a hardware problem. Have another look at the part of the circuit related to the external power, that is the place where things can blow up. Something that may be tried is to have the SSD in a freezer for a few hours and immediately try it again while still very cold. The concept is that any half broken soldering may make contact again thanks to thermal shrinking of the components. You should be careful to avoid condensation on the cold part, but, well, there is not much to lose anyway. Another "fix lost electrical contact" trick is trying different positions of the drive and a bit of shaking or tapping. But if something has been damaged, you need a deep investigation of the hardware, with tools and knowledge that is not available to everyone. That is, something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_oBQ2UFZSU (SMD (de)soldering, thermal camera, ...) Regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
What kind and brand is it? If a given drive quits answering the sata bus (even after a power cycle) then there is little you can do except pay a data recovery company. On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 9:28 AM wrote: > > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to > the naked eye. > > Anything I could do at home to try to rescue it? I have backups of most > things but not the most recent stuff. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
On 11/5/22 07:27, andreas.fourn...@runbox.com wrote: So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to the naked eye. Anything I could do at home to try to rescue it? I have backups of most things but not the most recent stuff. Hi Andreas, I ONLY sell Samsung SSD's for such reasons. I had to replace, for free (hardware and labor reinstalling their OS's), too many SSD's before I wised up and spend the extra money on Samsung. If the numerous tips given you on this thread do not work and you really, really need your data back, contact DriveSavers Data Recovery 415.382-8000 800.440.1904 www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com They are not cheap though. -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
Michael D. Setzer II via users composed on 2022-11-06 01:45 (UTC+1000): > andreas.fournier wrote: >> The >> computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk >> anymore > If the bios on the machine doesn't see the drive, would try > a usb to sata adapter and see if another machine can see > the disk. Might be something with the controller or > connections in machine. The "computer froze" while in normal operation means, absent a disconnect of a cable from the SSD, the SSD itself went kaput while in use. Once another disk has proven to work with the same connections, or the SSD has proven to work elsewhere, no amount of fumbling in the BIOS or with cables or adapters can help. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
On Sun, 2022-11-06 at 02:55 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > > dmesg might report something. 'sudo dmesg -w' didn't print anything when I connected the SSD over the sata to usb adapter ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
On 5 Nov 2022 at 17:43, andreas.fourn...@runbox.com wrote: Subject:Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD? From: andreas.fourn...@runbox.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Sat, 05 Nov 2022 17:43:39 +0100 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users > On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 15:27 +0100, andreas.fourn...@runbox.com wrote: > > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. > > The > > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious > > to > > the naked eye. > > > > Anything I could do at home to try to rescue it? I have backups of > > most > > things but not the most recent stuff. > > I tried now to connect the SSD over a sata to usb adapter to an other > machine. It didn't show up. I'm guessing the only possibility would be > a professional rescue service. After you hook it up, run dmesg and see what it reports. Does it show an attempt to see the device, and if so does it show wany error message. Haven't messed with SSD drives so don't know if they are all one thing or not. Many years ago, had a fellow teacher have a 60G drive fail with no backup and lots of files she needed. The drive turned out to have a chip that had fried on the board. Found a drive on ebay with same model number for $20, and was able to swap the boards and recover all data, but have no ideal how often that would work. DefCon 2006 had a presentation on recovering disk, and it had a number of steps.. dmesg might report something. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ++ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mi...@guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ++ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 15:27 +0100, andreas.fourn...@runbox.com wrote: > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. > The > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious > to > the naked eye. > > Anything I could do at home to try to rescue it? I have backups of > most > things but not the most recent stuff. I tried now to connect the SSD over a sata to usb adapter to an other machine. It didn't show up. I'm guessing the only possibility would be a professional rescue service. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
RE: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
rescatux-0.74.iso sourceforgenet?! Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows From: Michael D. Setzer II via users Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2022 4:45:11 PM To: andreas.fourn...@runbox.com ; Community support for Fedora users Cc: Michael D. Setzer II Subject: Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD? On 5 Nov 2022 at 15:27, andreas.fourn...@runbox.com wrote: Subject: Can one rescue a dead SSD? From:andreas.fourn...@runbox.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Sat, 05 Nov 2022 15:27:37 +0100 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to > the naked eye. > If the bios on the machine doesn't see the drive, would try a usb to sata adapter and see if another machine can see the disk. Might be something with the controller or connections in machine. Once had a disk in a desktop that wouldn't boot, and turned out to be a SATA cable that had gone bad. Had another one that was even stranger. Had a machine that would not boot to drive after a power outage that was longer than UPS could handle. Turned out the cmos battery had gone bad, so it went to default settings in BIOS. The drive was Fedora only, but somehow a BIOS setting wa set to only boot with Windows Boot Loader. Changed that to secondary option, and then later disabled it completely. Machine boots fine.. So, would check BIOS first, and make sure that it really isn't seeing the disk. If it sees the disk, look for bios setting for booting, could be almost anywhere. If it is not seeing disk on original hardware, thru using another machine. Had another disk that wouldn't boot from drive, but hooked it up to other machine and ran fsck -f /dev/sda? on each of the partitions. Some partitions had errors that it fixed, and then machine booted in original hardware.. > Anything I could do at home to try to rescue it? I have backups of most > things but not the most recent stuff. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ++ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mi...@guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ++ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
On 5 Nov 2022 at 15:27, andreas.fourn...@runbox.com wrote: Subject:Can one rescue a dead SSD? From: andreas.fourn...@runbox.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Sat, 05 Nov 2022 15:27:37 +0100 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to > the naked eye. > If the bios on the machine doesn't see the drive, would try a usb to sata adapter and see if another machine can see the disk. Might be something with the controller or connections in machine. Once had a disk in a desktop that wouldn't boot, and turned out to be a SATA cable that had gone bad. Had another one that was even stranger. Had a machine that would not boot to drive after a power outage that was longer than UPS could handle. Turned out the cmos battery had gone bad, so it went to default settings in BIOS. The drive was Fedora only, but somehow a BIOS setting wa set to only boot with Windows Boot Loader. Changed that to secondary option, and then later disabled it completely. Machine boots fine.. So, would check BIOS first, and make sure that it really isn't seeing the disk. If it sees the disk, look for bios setting for booting, could be almost anywhere. If it is not seeing disk on original hardware, thru using another machine. Had another disk that wouldn't boot from drive, but hooked it up to other machine and ran fsck -f /dev/sda? on each of the partitions. Some partitions had errors that it fixed, and then machine booted in original hardware.. > Anything I could do at home to try to rescue it? I have backups of most > things but not the most recent stuff. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ++ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mi...@guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ ++ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
If you're willing to spend the money there are companies that can try to recover the data from the drive. If it's just the controller it may cost around $300 if it requires more work to recover the data it may cost you around $2000. I have used one company quite a few years ago and they were able to recover the data. Paolo On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 8:39 AM Felix Miata wrote: > Not IME. > > andreas.fourn...@runbox.com composed on 2022-11-05 15:27 (UTC+0100): > > > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The > > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to > > the naked eye. > > I've had several die. When the SSD's internal controller dies, you have a > lousy > paperweight, not an SSD, unless it's still under warranty - then it > amounts to a > token exchangeable for a working SSD with a shorter warranty. > -- > Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, > based on faith, not based on science. > > Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! > > Felix Miata > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
Not IME. andreas.fourn...@runbox.com composed on 2022-11-05 15:27 (UTC+0100): > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to > the naked eye. I've had several die. When the SSD's internal controller dies, you have a lousy paperweight, not an SSD, unless it's still under warranty - then it amounts to a token exchangeable for a working SSD with a shorter warranty. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
> So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to > the naked eye. > Maybe this tool could help - don't know - https://www.hdat2.com/ boot.iso's available ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
On Sat, 2022-11-05 at 10:32 -0400, Terry Polzin wrote: > Try booting a live media, see if the live OS even sees /dev/sda. If > it does you may be able to back up individual partitions to flash or > another SSD Nope, fedora live OS didn't see the SSD ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can one rescue a dead SSD?
Try booting a live media, see if the live OS even sees /dev/sda. If it does you may be able to back up individual partitions to flash or another SSD On Sat, Nov 5, 2022, 10:28 wrote: > So, a SSD just dieded on me, the root and home partition was on it. The > computer froze and after a cold boot the BIOS doesn't find the disk > anymore. I opened up the casing but couldn't see anything suspicious to > the naked eye. > > Anything I could do at home to try to rescue it? I have backups of most > things but not the most recent stuff. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
