Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Craig White wrote: > I would guess that terming rpmforge as 'volatile' would depend upon who > you ask - I doubt Dag would agree. I tend to think of rpmforge as > necessary for running CentOS/RHEL servers and think of EPEL as more > 'volatile' Sorry, I didn't actually say rpmforge is volatile. To clarify: EPEL requires that packages have consistent configuration and abi compatibility. This is a core requirement for inclusion into EPEL. Given that clamav is a constantly moving target, maybe EPEL isn't the best place for it. We do, however, have good packages for clamav from rpmforge. Obviously these packages are updated frequently, and don't have the configuration and abi compatibility required for EPEL. My comment regarding having a repo like debian volatile was to provide a repo for RHEL/CentOS users which contains packages which don't guarantee the required compatability. Which is basically what the clamav packages on rpmforge provide. Or we could let epel orphan clamav in EPEL6 and just use rpmforge... Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 08:46 +1000, Dan Irwin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Felix Schwarz > wrote: > > > Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly > > hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few > > questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active > > maintainer > > and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL. > > This poses the question, is EPEL the ideal place for clamav when it's > a constantly moving target? > > Maybe fedora/epel needs something akin to the debian volatile repo for > things like clamav. (We probably already have this in conceptual terms > from rpmforge) I think Felix hit it on the nose but EPEL is fine but it has not been packaged correctly nor has it been updated - it's now lagging about 2 updates behind. I would guess that terming rpmforge as 'volatile' would depend upon who you ask - I doubt Dag would agree. I tend to think of rpmforge as necessary for running CentOS/RHEL servers and think of EPEL as more 'volatile' Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Felix Schwarz wrote: > Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly > hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few > questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer > and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL. This poses the question, is EPEL the ideal place for clamav when it's a constantly moving target? Maybe fedora/epel needs something akin to the debian volatile repo for things like clamav. (We probably already have this in conceptual terms from rpmforge) Regards, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:59:39 +0200 Felix Schwarz wrote: > Am 21.04.2010 06:33, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +1000 > > Dan Irwin wrote: > > > >> The clamav packages in EPEL are quite broken, and don't work out of > >> the box. I think this has been the case for many months. > > > > Have you filed any bugs? Whats broken? > > There are a couple of bugs: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=clamav&product=Fedora%20EPEL Sure, there are bugs. > Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is > extremly hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. > Combined with a few questionable decisions when it came to packaging > + a not-so-active maintainer and we have a basically orphaned package > in EPEL. Yeah. ;( I'll see what I can do. > I've spoken to a few Fedora packagers who where interested in > maintaining the package. However the premise for them was that they > can also decide how the Fedora package should look like - and at that > time the current maintainer had strong feelings about this topic... And still does I am sure. > If you could initiate a discussion on epel-devel, I can ping a few of > the previously interested people... Feel free to start discussion on that list. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
Am 21.04.2010 06:33, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: > On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +1000 > Dan Irwin wrote: > >> The clamav packages in EPEL are quite broken, and don't work out of >> the box. I think this has been the case for many months. > > Have you filed any bugs? Whats broken? There are a couple of bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=clamav&product=Fedora%20EPEL Some also have security impact. Basically the problem is that it is extremly hard to provide the ABI/config stability for clamav. Combined with a few questionable decisions when it came to packaging + a not-so-active maintainer and we have a basically orphaned package in EPEL. I've spoken to a few Fedora packagers who where interested in maintaining the package. However the premise for them was that they can also decide how the Fedora package should look like - and at that time the current maintainer had strong feelings about this topic... If you could initiate a discussion on epel-devel, I can ping a few of the previously interested people... fs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Craig White wrote: > yes, rpmforge > > Fedora/EPEL clamav seems to really lag behind releases > Cool. I will look into this. I had forgotten about rpmforge for some reason. Cheers, Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +1000 Dan Irwin wrote: > Hello, > > I couldn't find a EPEL users list, so I'm posting here. Yeah, there isn't one, but the epel-devel list is open for anyone. ;) > The clamav packages in EPEL are quite broken, and don't work out of > the box. I think this has been the case for many months. Have you filed any bugs? Whats broken? > Is there a current maintainer for clamav in EPEL? If not, what is > required to take this role over. I have the necessary skills, and I > have a working clamav install based on the broken EPEL packages. I > would like to contribute this work so next time I install a server > with clamav, it just works. There is a maintainer. He may be busy/want help. File a bug and offer to help out... patches would be welcome I'm sure. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: EPEL clamav packages
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 11:46 +1000, Dan Irwin wrote: > On the off chance I'm "doing this wrong", is there a better source for > clamav packages for RHEL/CentOS? yes, rpmforge Fedora/EPEL clamav seems to really lag behind releases Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
