Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
I'm an genuine old-timer who gets it right. Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On 11/17/2010 01:19 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 17.11.2010, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> I've noticed that it's almost always newcomers who use Fedora Core when >> referring to the distro. > > I used "FC" without thinking if this maybe could be incorrect. I just > wanted to show what distribution my mails are related to. > You both misunderstand and mis-read; I wasn't referring to people using "FC," but as I wrote up above, using the term "Fedora Core" for recent versions. >> It's almost as though they're trying to look >> like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only >> manage to look clueless. > > I think it's quite silly to judge others by a simple prefix they're using, > and I can't see why it's so important how long time one has been > using Fedora... > How long you've been using Fedora shouldn't be important, which is why I'm so amused by newcomers pretending to be old-timers and Getting It Wrong. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:38:07 -0500, Tom wrote: > zooty> rpm -q kernel > kernel-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.x86_64 > kernel-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64 > > Why are the rpms still named "fcN" instead of "fN" :-). a) See the various list archives. ;) b) Because it isn't trivial to switch from .fc14 to .f14 without rebuilding packages also in older dists. Look! $ rpmdev-vercmp 2.6.35.6-45.fc14 2.6.35.6-45.f14 0:2.6.35.6-45.fc14 is newer $ rpmdev-vercmp 2.6.35.6-45.fc13 2.6.35.6-45.f14 0:2.6.35.6-45.fc13 is newer -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:19:19 +0100 Heinz Diehl wrote: > > It's almost as though they're trying to look > > like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only > > manage to look clueless. > > I think it's quite silly to judge others by a simple prefix they're using, > and I can't see why it's so important how long time one has been > using Fedora... For that matter: zooty> rpm -q kernel kernel-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.x86_64 kernel-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64 Why are the rpms still named "fcN" instead of "fN" :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On 17.11.2010, Joe Zeff wrote: > I've noticed that it's almost always newcomers who use Fedora Core when > referring to the distro. I used "FC" without thinking if this maybe could be incorrect. I just wanted to show what distribution my mails are related to. > It's almost as though they're trying to look > like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only > manage to look clueless. I think it's quite silly to judge others by a simple prefix they're using, and I can't see why it's so important how long time one has been using Fedora... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:52:38 +, Clive wrote: > I just saw an email from you saying init also dumps. > I'd seriously consider if the box is okay/check the installation. The init/telinit issue is entirely unrelated. See my other msg, please. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
Clive Hills wrote: > There is a good reason that the rpms are fc14.rpm etc. It stands for > Fedora Community. > None the less it is Fedora 14 not Fedora Core 14 that is the > distribution name. > Actually he didn't say "Core" anywhere but as a modifier for "dump." So your comment/correction about it not being Fedora Core is unrelated to anything he said, and his use if fc14 in the subject was correct. Corrections are best done after someone makes a mistake. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
Clive Hills gmail.com> writes: > > > There is a good reason that the rpms are fc14.rpm etc. It stands for Fedora Community. I think the phrase "Fedora Community" was invented as an excuse to be able to keep using "fc" in the disttag, since it was decided that changing "fc" to "f" would generate too many problems to be worth the trouble - there's a long thread on this at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-maintainers/2007-January/msg00023.html There was another long thread on this subject more recently on one of the mailing lists (devel?), but I don't have a link. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On 11/17/2010 08:22 AM, Clive Hills wrote: > There is a good reason that the rpms are fc14.rpm etc. It stands for > Fedora Community. > None the less it is Fedora 14 not Fedora Core 14 that is the > distribution name. > Clive > I've noticed that it's almost always newcomers who use Fedora Core when referring to the distro. It's almost as though they're trying to look like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only manage to look clueless. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
There is a good reason that the rpms are fc14.rpm etc. It stands for Fedora Community. None the less it is Fedora 14 not Fedora Core 14 that is the distribution name. Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
Clive Hills wrote: > I just saw an email from you saying init also dumps. > I'd seriously consider if the box is okay/check the installation. > Are you using systemd? > And by the way it's just F14. FC6 was the last Fedora to bear the Core name. > Look at your rpm names, they are all fc14 (and hopefully will continue to be so to avoid confusion with other projects). -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On 15.11.2010, Clive Hills wrote: > It'll take me to runlevel 3. I'm afraid it won't. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649940 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
It'll take me to runlevel 3. Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On 15.11.2010, Clive Hills wrote: > I just saw an email from you saying init also dumps. Btw: does it work four you, with F14? What happens when you open up a console in Gnome, su to root, and do an "init 3"? I'm just curious. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On 15.11.2010, Andre Robatino wrote: > For me, I only see this using "su" (not "su -") and also only when using > "emacs" > (not "emacs -nw"). Yes, you're right, it shows only up when "su" is used. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
On 15.11.2010, Clive Hills wrote: > I just saw an email from you saying init also dumps. > I'd seriously consider if the box is okay/check the installation. Hmm, the machine is ok, it ran F13 quite flawlessly over a long time. I did a complete re-install in the meantime, and the problem is still there. > Are you using systemd? I just don't know, haven't checked if it gets installed by F14 as a standard. > And by the way it's just F14. FC6 was the last Fedora to bear the Core name. Yes, you're right :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
I can reproduce this problem on F14/i686. Emacs crashes if it is run from a shell spawned by 'su' only. This is because root's enviroment isn't setup. If you su - and run emacs then emacs pops up but there are various assertion errors printed to the terminal session. Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
Heinz Diehl fritha.org> writes: > > Hi, > > when I launch a console and type "emacs", it starts flawlessly when I'm > loggin in as user. When I'm root, it dumps core with > > The error is Glin-GIO:Error:gdbusconnection.c:2270:inittable > init:assertion failed > > Emacs-nw is ok, though. What's going on here? For me, I only see this using "su" (not "su -") and also only when using "emacs" (not "emacs -nw"). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14
I just saw an email from you saying init also dumps. I'd seriously consider if the box is okay/check the installation. Are you using systemd? And by the way it's just F14. FC6 was the last Fedora to bear the Core name. Clive -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
