Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-10-17 Thread Rex Dieter
jarmo wrote:

 Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:26:09 -0500
 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu kirjoitti:
 

 
 My workaround for @work machines, edit
 /etc/systemd/journald.conf to contain:
 
 Storage=volatile
 
 (reboot).  Haven't had any problems since.
 
 -- Rex
 
 
 Now, why is that journald.conf there? As I look inside it,
 all line are commented out?

I think those commented-out lines represent the software defaults.

 Only what helped first hand was to rename /var/log/journal into
 journal.org.

That is a one-time equivalent to what I suggested (which essentially clears 
journal on every boot, not just when you do it manually).

-- Rex


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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-10-16 Thread andrea
On 21/09/13 15:39, andrea wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've just updated F19 and after reboot I do not get the usual kdm login 
 screen.
 The graphic screen with the F stays there forever.
 
 I can login in text mode and run 'startx' and I get to the normal KDE session.
 
 Looking at the logs I only noticed
 
 [FAILED] Wait for Plymouh Boot Screen to quit
 
 and in /var/log/messages
 
 there is something about
 
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --ping - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is running ...
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth deactivate - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --has-active-vt - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth should quit when server starts
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is active on VT 1, reusing for :0
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server startup timeout, terminating
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server for display :0 cannot be 
 started, session disabled
 
 any idea?
 

It happened again.
The main console is stuck with the list of all services and the only error is

[FAILED] Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit

I have run startx from an other console.
Let's hope deleting the usual /var/... folder will fix it.

Andrea


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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-10-16 Thread andrea
On 16/10/13 20:07, andrea wrote:

 It happened again.
 The main console is stuck with the list of all services and the only error is
 
 [FAILED] Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit
 
 I have run startx from an other console.
 Let's hope deleting the usual /var/... folder will fix it.

yes it did the job.
it is a lot more widespread the I though

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=294133

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967521


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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-10-16 Thread Rex Dieter
andrea wrote:

 It happened again.
 The main console is stuck with the list of all services and the only error
 is
 
 [FAILED] Failed to start Wait for Plymouth Boot Screen to Quit
 
 I have run startx from an other console.
 Let's hope deleting the usual /var/... folder will fix it.


My workaround for @work machines, edit
/etc/systemd/journald.conf to contain:

Storage=volatile

(reboot).  Haven't had any problems since. 

-- Rex

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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-10-16 Thread jarmo
Wed, 16 Oct 2013 15:26:09 -0500
Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu kirjoitti:


 
 My workaround for @work machines, edit
 /etc/systemd/journald.conf to contain:
 
 Storage=volatile
 
 (reboot).  Haven't had any problems since. 
 
 -- Rex
 

Now, why is that journald.conf there? As I look inside it,
all line are commented out?

Only what helped first hand was to rename /var/log/journal into
journal.org.
Also I disabled Plymouth, because I don't see anything useful to me,
only one thing more slower my old pc :).

Jarmo
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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-09-22 Thread Anthony Messina
On Saturday, September 21, 2013 07:34:42 PM andrea wrote:
  [FAILED] Wait for Plymouh Boot Screen to quit
 
  
 
  and in /var/log/messages
 
  
 
  there is something about
 
  
 
  Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --ping - 0
  Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is running ...
  Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth deactivate - 0
  Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --has-active-vt - 0
  Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth should quit when server
  starts
  Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is active on VT 1, reusing
  for :0 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server startup timeout,
  terminating Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server for display :0
  cannot be started, session disabled
  
 
  any idea?
 
  
 
 in the end something damaged in /var/log/journal
 
 google it, it turned out that some services took too long to start.
 not too sure, but renaming that folder fixed it.

What did you find damaged in /var/log/journal?  I ask because I see this KDM 
failure as well, only on one of my machines, but journalctl --verify passes 
with flying colors.  Also, when I issue systemctl restart display-manager 
after the initial failure, KDM starts properly.

-A

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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-09-22 Thread andrea
On 22/09/13 09:01, Anthony Messina wrote:
 
 What did you find damaged in /var/log/journal?  I ask because I see this 
 KDM 
 failure as well, only on one of my machines, but journalctl --verify passes 
 with flying colors.  Also, when I issue systemctl restart display-manager 
 after the initial failure, KDM starts properly.

no idea

I followed this suggestion.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/fedora-boot-problem-4175468468/



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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-09-22 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 21.09.2013 16:39, schrieb andrea:
 I've just updated F19 and after reboot I do not get the usual kdm login 
 screen.
 The graphic screen with the F stays there forever.
 
 I can login in text mode and run 'startx' and I get to the normal KDE session.
 
 Looking at the logs I only noticed
 [FAILED] Wait for Plymouh Boot Screen to quit
 
 and in /var/log/messages
 
 there is something about
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --ping - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is running ...
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth deactivate - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --has-active-vt - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth should quit when server starts
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is active on VT 1, reusing for :0
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server startup timeout, terminating
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server for display :0 cannot be 
 started, session disabled

add the following params to the kernel line

rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0

somewhere at start of the boot process you need to press a key or whatever
to see the grub-menu at all because smart people decided it is more
beautiful to hide basic things from users




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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-09-22 Thread Joe Zeff

On 09/21/2013 07:52 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

somewhere at start of the boot process you need to press a key or whatever
to see the grub-menu at all because smart people decided it is more
beautiful to hide basic things from users


It's not so much their hiding things from users that I object to, it's 
making it the default.  Yes, you should be able to hide the menu if 
that's what floats your boat, but it shouldn't start out hidden; it 
should (IMAO) start out visible, with a fairly easy method of toggling. 
 That way, newcomers to Linux will see the menu every time until they 
learn enough (and get enough confidence) to turn it off, and by that 
time, they should at least know that the menu's there even if they've 
forgotten how to toggle it.  If nothing else, it should be active on a 
new install until firstboot runs.  That way, if you need to boot into 
either rescue or CLI mode because your install b0rk, you've got the 
chance.  (If so, firstboot can always ask if you want the menu, with an 
explanation for beginners of why it might be a Good Idea.)

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Re: Fedora 19, KDE 4.11.1, no login screen

2013-09-21 Thread andrea
On 21/09/13 15:39, andrea wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've just updated F19 and after reboot I do not get the usual kdm login 
 screen.
 The graphic screen with the F stays there forever.
 
 I can login in text mode and run 'startx' and I get to the normal KDE session.
 
 Looking at the logs I only noticed
 
 [FAILED] Wait for Plymouh Boot Screen to quit
 
 and in /var/log/messages
 
 there is something about
 
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --ping - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is running ...
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth deactivate - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth --has-active-vt - 0
 Sep 21 15:24:35 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth should quit when server starts
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: plymouth is active on VT 1, reusing for :0
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server startup timeout, terminating
 Sep 21 15:24:36 localhost kdm[335]: X server for display :0 cannot be 
 started, session disabled
 
 any idea?
 
in the end something damaged in /var/log/journal

google it, it turned out that some services took too long to start.
not too sure, but renaming that folder fixed it.


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