Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner ashley at pcraft.com writes:

 ...

I have to guess somewhat, which is a polite way to admit ...

Pass these on kernel line:
xdriver=vesa nomodeset agp=off

JB


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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 11:31 AM, JB wrote:
 Remove quiet and
 add ignore_loglevel
 (without  characters) to the boot options to see where it hangs.

 There was no 'quiet' option on the boot line to begin with.

 After the 'waiting for hardware to initialize...' line, there are 
several lines that appear, but the last few are (manually typing these 
in by the way):

 [   10.232634] scsi 0:0:1:0: CD-ROM TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6702B 1007 
PQ: 0 ANSI 5
 [   10.233039] sd 0:0:1:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
 [   10.234443] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
 [   10.234653] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
 [   10.236336] sr 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
 [   10.237553] sr 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5

 It looks like after it detects the primary drive, then the slave 
CD-ROM, it just stops.  I tried a completely different optical drive, 
same result.  I don't think it's the optical drive getting it stuck, but 
I could be wrong.
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner ashley at pcraft.com writes:

 ...

Kernel command line:
always keep -- ignore_loglevel 
add --  enforcing=0

JB


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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 12:03 PM, JB wrote:
 Kernel command line:
 always keep --  ignore_loglevel
 add --   enforcing=0

 The only major difference this time is that it's also detecting the 
additional drives that are on the add-on card.  Previously it wasn't, 
but now I can see them after it says 'waiting for hardware to 
initialize...'.  It's going through ata1.00, ata1.01, ata3.00, and 
ata3.01 - which accounts for the four hard drives, and then it lists the 
CD-ROM.  But it still dies at the same exact spot after detecting the 
CD-ROM ...

 For the record, I previously tried without the add-on card plugged 
in and it too went nowhere.  So there is something either with the 
CD-ROM or just after it that causing it to hang.  And when I say hang, 
I'm talking complete lock up.  NUM key doesn't do anything, the machine 
is a brick.  Only recovery is to hold the power button till it shuts off.

 By the way, when booting CentOS, it also displays that 'waiting for 
hardware to initialize...' however it sits there for a mere 5 seconds 
then moves on and boots normally.
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner ashley at pcraft.com writes:

there is something perhaps with your two Ethernet setups (you have 2 NIC
controllers shown in lspci).

always keep --  ignore_loglevel enforcing=0
add --   ether=0,0,eth1

this will force probing both Ethernets.

Another kernel option you can try as well is:
nousb

JB



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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 12:35 PM, JB wrote:
 Ashley M. Kirchnerashleyat  pcraft.com  writes:

 there is something perhaps with your two Ethernet setups (you have 2 NIC
 controllers shown in lspci).

 always keep --   ignore_loglevel enforcing=0
 add --ether=0,0,eth1

 this will force probing both Ethernets.

 Another kernel option you can try as well is:
 nousb

 It detects the ethernets just fine, one pops up just before the 
'waiting for the cows to come home' line and the other just after.  
Adding the ether option and nousb made no difference.
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread JB
Ashley M. Kirchner ashley at pcraft.com writes:

 ...

I do not see any audio (sound) device controller in your lspci ...
Is that possible ?

JB





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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 1:03 PM, JB wrote:
 I do not see any audio (sound) device controller in your lspci ...
 Is that possible ?
 That would be correct, it's a server board, it has no onboard audio.
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Re: Fwd: Re: [Fedora] Re: FC14 Installation Hangs

2011-01-22 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On 1/22/2011 12:38 PM, Rick Sewill wrote:
 I looked at URL, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelCommonProblems,
 for hints.  It has a suggestion, under Crashes/Hangs,
 # initcall_debug will allow to see the last thing the kernel tried to
 initialise before it hung.
 I have the impression, from what is said, the kernel is hanging trying to
 initialize something.  Perhaps this parameter will help give us a hint.

 Well now this is interesting.  The very last line just after the 
CD-ROM part, and also where it hangs, is:

 sdd:

 Which indicates one of the drives, and in this particular case, it 
would be the main drive (primary bus, master) based on the specs it's 
listing a few lines above.  So a) why is it being listed as sdd and not 
sda? b) why is it hanging?  The CD-ROM is being listed as sdc ... So 
what happened to sda and sdb?  When I boot into CentOS, it correctly 
sees sda and sdb for the primary drive and CD-ROM, then it moves to sde, 
sdf, and sdg (which are all on the add-on card).  Is it possible that 
Fedora 14 is somehow reading the add-on card first and assigning sda and 
sdb to two of the drives there?  And if so, then why is it ignoring the 
3rd drive that's also on the add-on?

 I should point out that I have tried various other drives as the 
primary boot drive when I first started experiencing these lock ups, 
before I starting posting to the list.  So I'm fairly certain it's not 
the drive itself (otherwise the other 4 that I tried would also be 
defective, and 2 of those were brand new out of the box.)

 At this point, I'm inclined to just keep it as is, with CentOS.  
The machine's been off the net for 24 hours now and I have to get it 
back into production.  So unless someone has a eureka moment, or a burst 
of bright ideas, I'm going to continue configuring the machine with 
CentOS and have it in production by Monday.
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