Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 07:49 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 20:13 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > >> > Took over it... :) > >> > >> Sorry to ask you to do something right after taking it over but I > >> tried it out and I can't login to the official server from > >> spring-lobby since the current version in the repo is 0.82.5 and it > >> requires 0.82.6... > >> > >> Richard > > > > Took me ~2h to release spring 0.82.6.1 and springlobby 116. > > Both should be landing in updates testing later (?) today. (Until they > > land, you can download them from [1,2]) > > Keep in mind that some people found that the latest springlobby breaks > > map download; I have yet to investigate it further. > > > > - Gilboa > > [1] Spring (Use the "build" link): > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/spring-0.82.6.1-1.fc13 > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/spring-0.82.6.1-1.fc14 > > [2] Spring lobby (Use the "build" link): > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/springlobby-0.116-1.fc13 > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/springlobby-0.116-1.fc14 > > By the time I got around to it I was able to get the packages from > updates-testing. The sever no longer complains about the version but I > have another issue, though admittedly the issue could be me, but I > don't find the interface terribly intuitive. > > I registered successfully and it doesn't complain when I try to login > but the status on the bottom right always says I'm disconnected from > the server and the "Mods" drop down under Single Player is always > empty even though the help tells you to pick a mod first then a map. I > can change to the other tabs like chat and see where it seemed to log > on briefly since there the standard IRC looking stuff. > > Richard Hello Richard, I'm answering this directory to the -users ML, so people facing the same problems (in the future) can follow these instruction. Springlobby: Springlobby is the spring-rts engine front end. It's being used to initiate both single and multi-play games. It can also be used to download maps and modifications. In-order to use it, first select "Server -> Connect" and create a user/password login. Once the login is successful, you will be able to use the "Battlelist" tab to see on-line games and join them. Important note: The springlobby is also used to configure the spring engine (display, 3D quality, sound, etc). Select Edit -> Spring settings to configure the engine. Side note: I've just release a new version of the game lobby (the program that's being used to download maps and mods and connect you to single and multi-player games). This version fixes a number of bugs (including broken map download). Download it from here. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/springlobby-0.118-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/springlobby-0.118-1.fc13 Modifications: The spring-rts itself is not a game, it's an empty game engine, in-order to start playing to you need to download games, or modification. There are two ways to download modifications: 1. On-line, using the springlobby. 2. Off-line, using rapid (preferable method). 3. Off-line, using springfiles.com. http://springfiles.com/ In-order to download modification on-line, login, and them switch to the "Battlelist" tab. In the games list, you'll see a list of server, each with the current modification and map being used. If the modification / map doesn't exist in your installation, an "x" will appear to the left of its name. Right click -> Download mod/map will download the modification or map. Due to the constant development state of most spring-rts modifications the easiest way to install mods, is using rapid-springs. Please follow these instruction: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/rapid-spring Once you've download it, you can select which modification you by looking at this page: http://springrts.com/wiki/Games (With my favorite being Supreme Annihilation, which is based around Balance Annihilation) http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=17380 In my case, I'm using rapid to install the following mods: $ rapid list-pinned-tags Using data directory: /home/gilboa/.spring Pinned tags: ba:latest (Balanced Annihilation V7.19) ca:test (Complete Annihilation test-8610) sa:latest (Supreme Annihilation U75 V1.0) Maps: There are two ways to download maps: 1. On-line, using the springlobby. 2. Off-line, using springfiles.com. http://springfiles.com/ Starting a game: Once you are done download maps and games, you start playing, either on-line (by select a game in the BattleList tab) or off-line (By selecting the Singleplayer tab, selecting a map from the map list-box, selecting a mod from the mod list-box and adding and placing a number of computer AI opponents using the "Add bot" button). Hope I helps, - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@l
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 13:58 -0500, William Case wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:22 -0500, William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I thought I would like to try a game. The Fedora Repo list gives about > > 60 at least. I am over sixty, not decrepit yet, but certainly don't > > want to continually loose to a reflexes based game. > > > > What I think I would like (or some combination of some of the criteria > > listed) > > a strategy based game; empire or kingdom or city building; more based on > > natural economic or societal criteria; perhaps an enemy or two but > > enough time between attacks to create a city or whatever, a good test of > > strategic thinking as well as occasional tactical reactions. I don't > > think I want an internet game, but I have never tried so that is kind of > > an open question. > > > > Is there anyone out there of my age that has found a Linux or Fedora > > game that is engrossing and fits at least partially my enumerated wish > > list. > > Thanks for the suggestions. I have decided to try Quarry (Gnome Go) > because it is something I have played before in the distant past. And, > Spring because it fits my self-stated criteria and I like the eye-candy. > I will find out with Spring whether my criteria is what I really want. > So far it has been an intriguing came just try to figure out how to set > it up. > Feel free to PM me (or post questions in -users) if you have questions about springs. - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 20:13 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > Took over it... :) > > Sorry to ask you to do something right after taking it over but I > tried it out and I can't login to the official server from > spring-lobby since the current version in the repo is 0.82.5 and it > requires 0.82.6... > > Richard Took me ~2h to release spring 0.82.6.1 and springlobby 116. Both should be landing in updates testing later (?) today. (Until they land, you can download them from [1,2]) Keep in mind that some people found that the latest springlobby breaks map download; I have yet to investigate it further. - Gilboa [1] Spring (Use the "build" link): https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/spring-0.82.6.1-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/spring-0.82.6.1-1.fc14 [2] Spring lobby (Use the "build" link): https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/springlobby-0.116-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/springlobby-0.116-1.fc14 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > Took over it... :) Sorry to ask you to do something right after taking it over but I tried it out and I can't login to the official server from spring-lobby since the current version in the repo is 0.82.5 and it requires 0.82.6... Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:22 -0500, William Case wrote: > Hi; > > I thought I would like to try a game. The Fedora Repo list gives about > 60 at least. I am over sixty, not decrepit yet, but certainly don't > want to continually loose to a reflexes based game. > > What I think I would like (or some combination of some of the criteria > listed) > a strategy based game; empire or kingdom or city building; more based on > natural economic or societal criteria; perhaps an enemy or two but > enough time between attacks to create a city or whatever, a good test of > strategic thinking as well as occasional tactical reactions. I don't > think I want an internet game, but I have never tried so that is kind of > an open question. > > Is there anyone out there of my age that has found a Linux or Fedora > game that is engrossing and fits at least partially my enumerated wish > list. Thanks for the suggestions. I have decided to try Quarry (Gnome Go) because it is something I have played before in the distant past. And, Spring because it fits my self-stated criteria and I like the eye-candy. I will find out with Spring whether my criteria is what I really want. So far it has been an intriguing came just try to figure out how to set it up. -- Regards Bill Fedora 14, Gnome 2.32 Evo.2.32, Emacs 23.2.1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
--- On Mon, 12/13/10, William Case wrote: > From: William Case > Subject: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!? > To: "Fedora List" > Date: Monday, December 13, 2010, 5:22 PM > Hi; > > I thought I would like to try a game. The Fedora Repo > list gives about > 60 at least. I am over sixty, not decrepit yet, but > certainly don't > want to continually loose to a reflexes based game. > > What I think I would like (or some combination of some of > the criteria > listed) > a strategy based game; empire or kingdom or city building; > more based on > natural economic or societal criteria; perhaps an enemy or > two but > enough time between attacks to create a city or whatever, a > good test of > strategic thinking as well as occasional tactical > reactions. I don't > think I want an internet game, but I have never tried so > that is kind of > an open question. If you are willing to forgo the empire-building aspects, the game "Go" would provide all the strategy and tactics you could want. GnuGo provides a decent OSS computer opponent. I know that KDE games provides a GUI for it with kigo - don't know what Gnome might provide. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 10:23 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 16:00:43 +0200, > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > Took over it... :) > > Thanks! Happy to help :) - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 16:00:43 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > Took over it... :) Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 15:58 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 07:23 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 06:50:54 +0200, > > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > > > 2. spring-rts (my personal favorite): > > > > > Yum packages: spring spring-installer springlobby spring-maps-default > > > Site: http://springrts.com/ > > > > Note that spring is orphaned now and will be going away in F15 if no one > > voluteers to pick it up. > > I'm willing to take it. > > - Gilboa Took over it... :) - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 07:23 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 06:50:54 +0200, > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > 2. spring-rts (my personal favorite): > > > Yum packages: spring spring-installer springlobby spring-maps-default > > Site: http://springrts.com/ > > Note that spring is orphaned now and will be going away in F15 if no one > voluteers to pick it up. I'm willing to take it. - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 06:50:54 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > 2. spring-rts (my personal favorite): > Yum packages: spring spring-installer springlobby spring-maps-default > Site: http://springrts.com/ Note that spring is orphaned now and will be going away in F15 if no one voluteers to pick it up. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:22 -0500, William Case wrote: > Hi; > > I thought I would like to try a game. The Fedora Repo list gives about > 60 at least. I am over sixty, not decrepit yet, but certainly don't > want to continually loose to a reflexes based game. > > What I think I would like (or some combination of some of the criteria > listed) > a strategy based game; empire or kingdom or city building; more based on > natural economic or societal criteria; perhaps an enemy or two but > enough time between attacks to create a city or whatever, a good test of > strategic thinking as well as occasional tactical reactions. I don't > think I want an internet game, but I have never tried so that is kind of > an open question. > > Is there anyone out there of my age that has found a Linux or Fedora > game that is engrossing and fits at least partially my enumerated wish > list. Two entries that might interest you: 1. Freeciv. Description: You start as a single settler, slowly build your empire, develop technologies and fight (or trade) over land and resources with your neighboring empires. Pros: 1. Freeciv is complex and requires brain power and more-or-less zero instincts. 2. No two games are alike. 3. It has very low computer hardware requirements. Cons: 1. freeciv is geared toward on-line game (less than stellar AI). 2. Its less polished and graphically pleasing then its proprietary parent (Civilization III, IV, V). Yum package: freeciv Site: http://www.freeciv.org/ 2. spring-rts (my personal favorite): Description: You start as a single mechanized commander capable of building limited set of structures, slowly building your base (factories, power generation, defense, etc) and your army (trucks, tanks, air and naval units), fighting till death with up to 8 AI and/or human opponents. Pros: 1. It's graphically pleasing. 2. The AI is fairly good, so you're not forced to play online. 3. The game speed is configurable, making it easy for people that don't belong to 12-year-old-on-suger-diet-with-sub-1ms-reaction-time-club. Cons: 1. It requires a good 3D sub-system. (Never tried playing it using OSS drivers) 2. Initial installation (especially if you want to use different mods) is somewhat challenging. Yum packages: spring spring-installer springlobby spring-maps-default Site: http://springrts.com/ - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 12:43 +1100, David wrote: > Thats description sounds like Globulation 2, which is packaged as > 'glob2', would be worth a look. > > I'm not really into games, I'm not very competitive and most leave me > cold so I rarely bother, but I enjoyed investigating this one, where > tribes of autonomous little animated entities compete with one > another. The AI always beat me because I didn't care enough to master > the game, but for me that was irrelevant because I was entertained > just observing this game play itself out regardless of what effort I > made to influence the final outcome. My skills, and slight interest, in games doesn't extend much beyond Tetris and Pacman (haven't seen one to rival Deluxe Pacman on the Amiga, it's fun, funny, quite pretty, and playable). Most of the AI games remind me of disturbing ants. You can influence them to do something, but not actually control them. It's a similar thing with the modern 3D reality, or fantasy, games, it does all sorts of things by itself while you nudge it about. Plus, I feel seasick watching the view whiz about. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On 14 December 2010 09:22, William Case wrote: > > What I think I would like (or some combination of some of the criteria listed) > a strategy based game; empire or kingdom or city building; more based on > natural economic or societal criteria; perhaps an enemy or two but > enough time between attacks to create a city or whatever, a good test of > strategic thinking as well as occasional tactical reactions. I don't > think I want an internet game, but I have never tried so that is kind of > an open question. Thats description sounds like Globulation 2, which is packaged as 'glob2', would be worth a look. I'm not really into games, I'm not very competitive and most leave me cold so I rarely bother, but I enjoyed investigating this one, where tribes of autonomous little animated entities compete with one another. The AI always beat me because I didn't care enough to master the game, but for me that was irrelevant because I was entertained just observing this game play itself out regardless of what effort I made to influence the final outcome. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:22:46PM -0500, William Case wrote: > Hi; > > I thought I would like to try a game. The Fedora Repo list gives about > 60 at least. I am over sixty, not decrepit yet, but certainly don't > want to continually loose to a reflexes based game. > > What I think I would like (or some combination of some of the criteria > listed) > a strategy based game; empire or kingdom or city building; more based on > natural economic or societal criteria; perhaps an enemy or two but > enough time between attacks to create a city or whatever, a good test of > strategic thinking as well as occasional tactical reactions. I don't > think I want an internet game, but I have never tried so that is kind of > an open question. > > Is there anyone out there of my age that has found a Linux or Fedora > game that is engrossing and fits at least partially my enumerated wish > list. well, I'm not big on action games either. I don't mind playing them, but my son laughs his backside off watching me try to manipulate all the various keys and key-chords. I'm awful at it. I waste a lot of time, however, with things like Pysol-FC (which simply HAS to be the best collection of solitaire games around), Frozen bubble, and one I bought a while back for ten bucks, Osmos which is slow moving and peaceful with beautiful animated screens to navigate around. there are also some games starring professor Fizwizzle, but right now I can't remember the name(s). they are commercial, but not expensive. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." Hebrews 4:12 (niv) -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:22:46 -0500 William Case wrote: > I thought I would like to try a game. The Fedora Repo list gives about > 60 at least. I am over sixty, not decrepit yet, but certainly don't > want to continually loose to a reflexes based game. I hate games that need reflexes. One game I like (though it may be because I use a trackball) is "neverputt" (it is included in the "neverball" rpm). It is a golf game where (mostly) the main challenge is lining up the shot and applying the right force. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Game suggestions from the over sixty crowd?!?
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 17:22:46 -0500, William Case wrote: > > What I think I would like (or some combination of some of the criteria > listed) > a strategy based game; empire or kingdom or city building; more based on > natural economic or societal criteria; perhaps an enemy or two but > enough time between attacks to create a city or whatever, a good test of > strategic thinking as well as occasional tactical reactions. I don't > think I want an internet game, but I have never tried so that is kind of > an open question. freeciv or freecol might fit that bill. I haven't spent signifcant time with either yet, but what I have seen seems to be closed to what you want. > Is there anyone out there of my age that has found a Linux or Fedora > game that is engrossing and fits at least partially my enumerated wish > list. You might take a look at Colossus. I play a lot versus the AI. There is building of sorts during the game, but its different. The AI isn't very good, but if you play 1 against 5 with the AI set to pick on human players the game is pretty interesting. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
