Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
Tom Horsley wrote: Can we vote for features we want removed, like multilib that's not a yum feature, but a distribution-wide one. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't prefer to wait at all and want the process to go as fast as it can. I have to deal with many more updates as a package maintainer and slowing me down will reduce the amount of time I can spend getting users the updates they want. So it likely affects you indirectly as well. I sympathize with you, since I have always found your contributions very helpful, and I'm sure you have a busy schedule helping us all. But surely you are a special case, and must use many tools most of us know nothing about. For me, the essential properties of yum are simplicity and reliability. Speed is not that important, as like Steven earlier I don't mind doing something else while yum is running; I usually run yum update while having my breakfast, and don't mind in the slightest turning to the crossword while it runs, although actually I can read my email at the same time. I think Fedora is too quick jumping to innovations without thinking of the cost in added complexity. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
Hi On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: For me, the essential properties of yum are simplicity and reliability. Speed is not that important, Sure but if you can get better speed without sacrificing the things you care about (since dnf essentially has the same command line options and configuration), why wouldn't you take it? Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
On 06/06/14 20:46, Ales Kozumplik wrote: The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard! http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/06/06/vote-for-yum-features-that-you-miss-in-dnf/ Thanks for the heads up. Knowing it will be F22 (with F21 not even due out till October) will give folks plenty of time to hone their dnf skills. IMO, for many (majority?) it will be a drop-in replacement for yum. And thanks for including Other thing you'd like to tell us in the survey. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Can we vote for features we want removed, like multilib? (Actually I guess that is an rpm abomination, not a yum abomination, but it still ought to be removed and all the rpms properly split into noarch, i686, and x86_64 parts :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
On 6. 6. 2014 at 09:33:03, Tom Horsley wrote: The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Can we vote for features we want removed, like multilib? (Actually I guess that is an rpm abomination, not a yum abomination, but it still ought to be removed and all the rpms properly split into noarch, i686, and x86_64 parts :-). Proposals welcome, we can create a poll later ;-) Although I'm pretty sure multilib is one of the things that are here to stay in the foreseeable future. Thanks Jan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 14:46 +0200, Ales Kozumplik wrote: Hello, The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard! http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/06/06/vote-for-yum-features-that-you-miss-in-dnf/ Can the default configuration still leave you without a working kernel or has that been fixed? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
RE: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 14:46:23 +0200 From: akozu...@redhat.com To: de...@lists.fedoraproject.org; yum-de...@lists.baseurl.org; users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22! Hello, The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard! http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/06/06/vote-for-yum-features-that-you-miss-in-dnf/ Ales -- I have never used dnf. Does it have a GUI front end like Yumex? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Save everybody some surprises in Fedora 22!
On Jun 6, 2014 6:16 PM, Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote: Hello, The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard! http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/06/06/vote-for-yum-features-that-you-miss-in-dnf/ Ales -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org yum-plugin-local is that been implemented in dnf. -Sudhir. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org