Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/05/11 17:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sunday 05 June 2011 19:32:20 JD wrote: >> On F14. >> Pulseaudio daemion is running. >> I can hear media playing. >> But I am unable to use microphone. >> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic >> with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder >> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. >> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one >> is picking my voice. >> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that >> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. >> Neither one is working. >> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? > I doubt it's a pulseaudio issue. > > What is the output of "arecord -l"? > > Are you sure that microphone is not muted or something? The only safe way to > check that is to run alsamixer in the terminal, press F6 to choose the > soundcard, select the actual hardware soundcard in the pop-up menu instead of > the "default" (which represents the pulseaudio mixer), press F4 to see capture > devices, and play around with the settings --- unmute everything, boost mic > gain, etc. Then press ESC to exit alsamixer and try again with your favorite > app. > > Open the app, begin recording, open pavucontrol, go to "recording" and "input > devices" tabs, and boost the capture volume if needed. Also check there that > everything is unmuted. > > If that doesn't do it, it's an ALSA problem with the driver for your card. > Google is your friend. > > I don't see any other place where a mic could fail. Also, if you are unsure of > the proper config of your recording app (they often can be misconfigured by > default, skype being the typical example), use arecord --- that should always > work if your driver is ok. Read the "man arecord" for examples on how to use > it. > $ arecord -l List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], device 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], device 1: Intel ICH - MIC ADC [SiS SI7012 - MIC ADC] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Modem [SiS SI7013 Modem], device 0: Intel ICH - Modem [SiS SI7013 Modem - Modem] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Pressing F6 in Asamixer shows the mic unmuted and at 5% volume When I press F4, the word Capture (in red) appears above the mic. It is interesting to note that GMixer->Rcording tab says the device is called Capture Should it not be Mic ?? How/where is GMixer configured? Why is it picking the device called Capture instead of Mic? pavucontrol shows the client to be arecord. But arecord does not record anything. aplay foobar.wav is all silent, even with boost 20db on. If it is an alsa driver problem, should it not have been there prior to pulseaudio? Prior to pulseaudio, I had no problems with record and playback. This audio chipset is Intel ICH Modem :00:02.6: PCI INT C -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 Intel ICH :00:02.7: PCI INT C -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18 intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50428 usecs (2426 samples) intel8x0: clocking to 48000 $ lspci | grep aud 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On Sunday 05 June 2011 19:32:20 JD wrote: > On F14. > Pulseaudio daemion is running. > I can hear media playing. > But I am unable to use microphone. > i,e. no matter what app I use the mic > with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder > or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. > I have a built-in and an external. Neither one > is picking my voice. > gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that > I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. > Neither one is working. > I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? I doubt it's a pulseaudio issue. What is the output of "arecord -l"? Are you sure that microphone is not muted or something? The only safe way to check that is to run alsamixer in the terminal, press F6 to choose the soundcard, select the actual hardware soundcard in the pop-up menu instead of the "default" (which represents the pulseaudio mixer), press F4 to see capture devices, and play around with the settings --- unmute everything, boost mic gain, etc. Then press ESC to exit alsamixer and try again with your favorite app. Open the app, begin recording, open pavucontrol, go to "recording" and "input devices" tabs, and boost the capture volume if needed. Also check there that everything is unmuted. If that doesn't do it, it's an ALSA problem with the driver for your card. Google is your friend. I don't see any other place where a mic could fail. Also, if you are unsure of the proper config of your recording app (they often can be misconfigured by default, skype being the typical example), use arecord --- that should always work if your driver is ok. Read the "man arecord" for examples on how to use it. > I checked to see what I can do about pulseaudio, and I see that these > are all the pulseaudio and related packages and just a short chain > of dependencies (I dod not do an exhastive dependency search, but > you will see that it is impossible to remove some of the packages > without killing your system Regardless of dependencies, I would say that it is a Bad Idea (tm) to remove pulseaudio. It is in the system for a reason, and it does its job well. PA is often used as a scapegoat when people run into sound problems, typically without it being the real culprit. Some time ago there was a witch-hunt against PA on this very list. It took a lot of persuading/teaching to help people realize that PA typically had nothing to do with their audio problems. > Here is a short list of dependents on these packages: > > pulseaudio-gdm-hooks is required by > gdm-2.32.1-2.fc14.i686 This is cute! :-) I really wonder why would a login manager need PA. Any ideas? > pulseaudio-libs is required by > pavucontrol-0.9.10-1.fc13.i686 Another killer dependency Now, you *are* aware that "pavucontrol" stands for "PulseAudio Volume Control", right? How can you expect pavucontrol not to be a dependency on pulseaudio-libs? In general, 90% of the audio problems are either down to wrong mixer settings (things being muted) or driver problems (ALSA being unable to drive the hardware). For the latter, you want to check on the Internet how good is the ALSA support for your hardware. For the former, the only two mixers I trust are alsamixer and pavucontrol. Note that in alsamixer you want to choose your sound card explicitly (or use the -c option) to reach the ALSA-level hardware mixer (which is below the pulseaudio mixer). Once you have configured the levels there, the only thing you ever need to use is pavucontrol, to change the levels of various sources on-the-fly, at the PA level. Other mixers (from gnome, kde, etc.) *should* provide equivalent functionality (and typically this works well), but they are just GUI's wrapped around alsamixer and pavucontrol, so you gain nothing by using them (other than nice "visual desktop integration", ie. eye-candy). If you need to troubleshoot something, ignore them and use pavucontrol and alsamixer only. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/05/11 15:24, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:32 -0700, JD wrote: >> On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA >>> Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under >>> /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: >>> options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 >>> >>> and save it. >>> >>> After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. >>> >>> Cu, >>> >>> Zoltan >>> >>> 2011/6/5 JD: On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD wrote: >> On F14. >> Pulseaudio daemion is running. >> I can hear media playing. >> But I am unable to use microphone. >> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic >> with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder >> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. >> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one >> is picking my voice. >> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that >> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. >> Neither one is working. >> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? > Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the > two sliders and move *one* to mute. > > Does that give you any capture volume? > > /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >>> >> Tried it. >> Did not help at all. >> Skype still cannot hear the mic. >> Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices), >> I only have the option of pulseaudio for both >> mic and audio out. >> >> When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the >> input is Capture, and it does not provide any options. >> When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me >> adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue. >> >> This is really great support for audio :) :) >> I do not recall having this problem prior >> to pulseaudio. > What's your hardware? > > I had the problem with F13/F14 and resolved it as suggested here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. Searching Bugzilla > for "microphone" turns up a bunch of F15-related stuff that may offer > other hints. > > The advent of pulseaudio seems to have been concurrent with the advent > of new hardware technologies like the mic/webcam combo in my laptop. So > I reserve judgment on the culpability of pulseaudio. > My hardware is a laptptop made by uniwill. The sound is the SIS chipset: SI7013 The modules that get loaded are snd_intel8x0 snd_intel8x0m snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm snd_page_alloc /var/log/messages shows: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50428 usecs (2426 samples) intel8x0: clocking to 48000 I took a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. It looks like the solution is specifig to dell models. Not sure what to put in my /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:32 -0700, JD wrote: > On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA > > Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under > > /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: > > options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 > > > > and save it. > > > > After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. > > > > Cu, > > > > Zoltan > > > > 2011/6/5 JD : > > > On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD wrote: > > > > > On F14. > > > > > Pulseaudio daemion is running. > > > > > I can hear media playing. > > > > > But I am unable to use microphone. > > > > > i,e. no matter what app I use the mic > > > > > with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder > > > > > or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. > > > > > I have a built-in and an external. Neither one > > > > > is picking my voice. > > > > > gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that > > > > > I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. > > > > > Neither one is working. > > > > > I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? > > > > Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the > > > > two sliders and move *one* to mute. > > > > > > > > Does that give you any capture volume? > > > > > > > > /Mike > > > Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way > > > back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice > > > in the right speaker. > > > Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. > > > Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. > > > the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. > > > The level meter does not budge. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > users mailing list > > > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > > > > > > Tried it. > Did not help at all. > Skype still cannot hear the mic. > Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices), > I only have the option of pulseaudio for both > mic and audio out. > > When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the > input is Capture, and it does not provide any options. > When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me > adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue. > > This is really great support for audio :) :) > I do not recall having this problem prior > to pulseaudio. What's your hardware? I had the problem with F13/F14 and resolved it as suggested here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. Searching Bugzilla for "microphone" turns up a bunch of F15-related stuff that may offer other hints. The advent of pulseaudio seems to have been concurrent with the advent of new hardware technologies like the mic/webcam combo in my laptop. So I reserve judgment on the culpability of pulseaudio. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JD : On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD wrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Tried it. Did not help at all. Skype still cannot hear the mic. Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices), I only have the option of pulseaudio for both mic and audio out. When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the input is Capture, and it does not provide any options. When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue. This is really great support for audio :) :) I do not recall having this problem prior to pulseaudio. I checked to see what I can do about pulseaudio, and I see that these are all the pulseaudio and related packages and just a short chain of dependencies (I dod not do an exhastive dependency search, but you will see that it is impossible to remove some of the packages without killing your system alsa-plugins-pulseaudio kde-settings-pulseaudio pulseaudio pulseaudio-equalizer pulseaudio-compat pulseaudio-gdm-hooks pulseaudio-libs pulseaudio-libs-devel pulseaudio-libs-glib2 pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils wine-pulseaudio Here is a short list of dependents on these packages: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio is required by kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.5-11.fc14.noarch pulseaudio-module-x11 is required by kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.5-11.fc14.noarch pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is required by gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-1.fc14.i686 bluedevil-1.1-2.fc14.i686 pulseaudio-gdm-hooks is required by gdm-2.32.1-2.fc14.i686 I think this is a killer dependency. If I remove pulseaudio-gdm-hooks, I lose gdm. pulseaudio-libs is required by libcanberra-0.25-4.fc14.i686 libcanberra is required by libcanberra-gtk2-0.25-4.fc14.i686
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/05/2011 09:56 AM, Temlakos wrote: > And just to be sure, I plugged it into another box that had Windows 7 > installed. And there it worked. I used Skype and talked with someone for > an hour and a half. Just to be sure, try booting that box from a LiveCD and see if the mic works. It's not very likely that both of your Linux boxen have matching hardware issues, but this is a quick, simple way to eliminate that possibility. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/04/2011 11:33 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JD: On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JDwrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. Everyone: I have /never/ been able to get F14 or any other flavor of Fedora to recognize any microphone that I have used. I tried it with a Dell Inspiron 2500. The built-in videocam worked, but the mike? No joy. Then I tried it on a mini-tower with a Plantronics USB stereo headset with microphone. /Again/ no joy. And just to be sure, I plugged it into another box that had Windows 7 installed. And there it worked. I used Skype and talked with someone for an hour and a half. So: /what is wrong with Fedora and microphones?/ Temlakos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JD : > On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD wrote: >>> On F14. >>> Pulseaudio daemion is running. >>> I can hear media playing. >>> But I am unable to use microphone. >>> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic >>> with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder >>> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. >>> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one >>> is picking my voice. >>> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that >>> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. >>> Neither one is working. >>> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? >> Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the >> two sliders and move *one* to mute. >> >> Does that give you any capture volume? >> >> /Mike > Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way > back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice > in the right speaker. > Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. > Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. > the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. > The level meter does not budge. > > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- PGP: 06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD wrote: >> On F14. >> Pulseaudio daemion is running. >> I can hear media playing. >> But I am unable to use microphone. >> i,e. no matter what app I use the mic >> with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder >> or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. >> I have a built-in and an external. Neither one >> is picking my voice. >> gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that >> I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. >> Neither one is working. >> I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? > Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the > two sliders and move *one* to mute. > > Does that give you any capture volume? > > /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JD wrote: > On F14. > Pulseaudio daemion is running. > I can hear media playing. > But I am unable to use microphone. > i,e. no matter what app I use the mic > with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder > or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. > I have a built-in and an external. Neither one > is picking my voice. > gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that > I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. > Neither one is working. > I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
