Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
| From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net | I take it you are referring to modern machines? This one was new in '81, I | think. Maybe '82.? I'm confused. What machine built in 1981 or 1982 can run Fedora? A recent enough one that you can file a BZ on (i.e. F17, F18, F19)? Heck, I vaguely recall that soft-sectoring wasn't even universal then. (My NABU-1600 is from that era. It runs (essentially) 7th Edition UNIX. It has a quad-density 5.25 floppy drive and an ST506-class hard drive. Fedora requires way more RAM than there is hard drive on that machine (10M).) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
I'm sorry about my last message. I got into a time warp and replied to a mesage from Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:26:48 -0500! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 20:36 +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required? JB I would suggest changing to pen drives. They are potentially much larger than floppies in capacity and most machines have extra places to insert them. OT - If anyone is intrigued by the Windows 7 with Touch Screen and Web Cam capabilities here is a tip. You need 5 usb ports for the various gadgets, and my Dell came with 4 on the back of the machine. Inserting a usb hub caused the machine to crash. -- === All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
On Monday 22 February 2010, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 20:36 +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required? JB I would suggest changing to pen drives. They are potentially much larger than floppies in capacity and most machines have extra places to insert them. I take it you are referring to modern machines? This one was new in '81, I think. Maybe '82.? OT - If anyone is intrigued by the Windows 7 with Touch Screen and Web Cam capabilities here is a tip. You need 5 usb ports for the various gadgets, and my Dell came with 4 on the back of the machine. Inserting a usb hub caused the machine to crash. Obviously, they didn't invent it, so of course it was crippled by M$, they never miss the chance to force an 'upgrade'. To linux of course. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Only someone with nothing to be sorry for smiles back at the rear of an elephant. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 20:17:36 -0800, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: Bruno: Thanks for the reply. Let me/us know what the bug ID is of what you end of submitting as I have this feeling it will all end up be related and a fix in one will impact the other. I created bug 567533 for the no /dev/fd0 after boot part of this problem. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 20:36:09 +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 n2xssvv.g02gfr12...@ntlworld.com wrote: I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required? I haven't gotten around to filing a bug about this since I wasn't sure if it was intentional or not, but you can use: modprobe floppy to create /dev/fd0 and be able to use your floppy drive. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
What is a floppy drive??? Well seriously, I think their are better options now. I used an 8 inch floppy a long time ago Chip n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required? JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
On 21 February 2010 22:23, Ralph Blach rcbl...@gmail.com wrote: I used an 8 inch floppy a long time ago *must* *resist* *smutty* *jokes* -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 20:36:09 +, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 n2xssvv.g02gfr12...@ntlworld.com wrote: I've been using a floppy boot disk as reserve if my HD boot fails, But it appears floppy support as now been removed. Why? Then how can I create an emergency media that is flexible enough to be updated as required? I haven't gotten around to filing a bug about this since I wasn't sure if it was intentional or not, but you can use: modprobe floppy to create /dev/fd0 and be able to use your floppy drive. I filed one awhile back, don't know if it fits your issue. Before filing I did check to see the /dev/fd0 and/or the link to /dev/floppy existed. I haven't again tested recently above and beyond confirming that it wasn't working under f12 (the bug was filed under f11) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 14:45:59 -0800, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741 I am already cc'd on that one. Though I suspect my issue is a udev one, not a nautilus one. P.S. I did get the wx8000s flashed, though the latest bios still didn't support booting from USB drives. I used a floppy to do it, though in the future I would probably take a look at using flashrom to do bios flashing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What happened to floppy drive support?
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 14:45:59 -0800, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537741 I am already cc'd on that one. Though I suspect my issue is a udev one, not a nautilus one. P.S. I did get the wx8000s flashed, though the latest bios still didn't support booting from USB drives. I used a floppy to do it, though in the future I would probably take a look at using flashrom to do bios flashing. Bruno: Thanks for the reply. Let me/us know what the bug ID is of what you end of submitting as I have this feeling it will all end up be related and a fix in one will impact the other. I haven't flashed my wx8000 nor moved it from F9 as it works quite nicely and don't want to mess. Not to mention I really don't want to deal with what happens if I make a mistake in flashing. The bug was submitted against x4000 which no longer have BIOS updates and I know they are at the latest. Plus, I have to admit a floppy drive is only a convenience for me, not a mandatory. Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines