Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[Greg Woods]

On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 17:32 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote:
> 
> > Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.
> 
> This is selectable at install? 

The desktop environments that you can select at install time are pretty
limited; I don't think MATE is on the list (although I could be wrong).
But it's easily added after install with "yum groupinstall 'MATE
Desktop'"

I'm not a Gnome 3 hater, I actually like it for the most part, now that
it's a lot more customizable than it was when it first came out. But I
still have some use cases where it doesn't work so well. For one thing,
I have not yet figured out a way to launch an application on the second
monitor of a dual-head setup. Even if the launch icon is located on the
second screen, it always launches on the first screen. I can then move
it over manually, but this isn't really a good option when the two
"monitors" are really two different inputs to the same output device,
and the application is windowless full-screen. MATE has the same issue.
I ended up having to use Xfce on those machines. It's nice that there
are choices.

--Greg


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Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 12/18/2013 07:50 PM, eoconno...@gmail.com wrote:

I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL!


If I could config it easier.  What is the app to change behaviour in 
apps like gedit?




- Reply message -
From: "Dan Thurman" 
To: 
Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm


On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote:

Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.


2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz >



On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100
bitlord wrote:


(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on
NONgnome-shell desktops

I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually
get buttons in the app itself where they belong.*Yet another reason
to run as far away from Gnome as possible.*

1+


I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome. Just getting
too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard.

would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I
still have on my Centos boxes.


I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with
~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE
fails to save workspace settings, fails menu "reorganizations",
uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot
log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does
not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more
HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so
a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty
good, but it can get ugly sometimes.

I hope MATE & applications catches up to what it was before gnome-3.





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Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[eoconno...@gmail.com]

I guess to each their own.cuz I happen to LIKE Gnome 3!.LoL!

- Reply message -
From: "Dan Thurman" 
To: 
Subject: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit
Date: Wed, Dec 18, 2013 7:32 pm
On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain 
wrote:



Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a 
lot. 




2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz 




On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:



On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:



On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100 
bitlord wrote: 



(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on 
NONgnome-shell desktops  


I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually 
get buttons in the app itself where they belong. Yet another reason 
to run as far away from Gnome as possible. 


1+




I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome.  Just 
getting too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard.



would like to get back to something close to gnome 2.  
Like I still have on my Centos boxes.






I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with

~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE

fails to save workspace settings, fails menu "reorganizations",

uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot

log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does

not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more

HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so

a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty

good, but it can get ugly sometimes.



I hope MATE & applications catches up to what it was before 
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Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[Dan Thurman]

On 12/18/2013 02:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote:

Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.


2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz >



On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100
bitlord wrote:


(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on
NONgnome-shell desktops

I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually
get buttons in the app itself where they belong.*Yet another reason
to run as far away from Gnome as possible.*

1+


I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome.  Just getting
too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard.

would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still
have on my Centos boxes.


I have MATE running on F18 - and it has a ways to go with
~/.gnome2 as opposed to ~/.gnome(3) user settings. MATE
fails to save workspace settings, fails menu "reorganizations",
uses caja/nautilus inconsistently, semi-fails XDMCP (Cannot
log in remotely-unable to enter password), 'motion' does
not work well on httpd+web browser and so on. There is more
HD bloat (gnome2+gnome3) and it is a performance hog so
a speedy MOBO/CPU/RAM is needed. The look and feel is pretty
good, but it can get ugly sometimes.

I hope MATE & applications catches up to what it was before gnome-3.

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Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 12/18/2013 06:16 PM, Steven Rosenberg wrote:

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain
 wrote:

Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.


I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like.


Only a 16GB SSD on this ASUS ee900.  Kind of 'pressed' for space.  I 
will give Mate a try first.



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Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[Steven Rosenberg]

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain
 wrote:
> Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.


I'd roll Mate, Xfce and LXDE onto the box to see what you like.
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Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 12/18/2013 05:20 PM, Dennis Kaptain wrote:

Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.


This is selectable at install?  I will most likely try again tomorrow...




2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz >



On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:

On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100
bitlord wrote:


(just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on
NONgnome-shell desktops

I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually
get buttons in the app itself where they belong.*Yet another reason
to run as far away from Gnome as possible.*

1+


I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome.  Just getting
too hard to use with a mouse and keyboard.

would like to get back to something close to gnome 2. Like I still
have on my Centos boxes.



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Re: What to try instead of gnome - Re: f20 - gedit

[Dennis Kaptain]

Mate is a fork of Gnome2. I use it and like it a lot.


2013/12/18 Robert Moskowitz 

>
> On 12/18/2013 04:21 PM, Dan Thurman wrote:
>
> On 12/18/2013 01:07 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:42:35 +0100
> bitlord wrote:
>
>
>  (just as example), but probably should have some fallback solution on
> NONgnome-shell desktops
>
>  I'm pretty sure it does. When I run GTK apps under FVWM, they actually
> get buttons in the app itself where they belong. *Yet another reason
> to run as far away from Gnome as possible.*
>
>  1+
>
>
> I am getting so close to pulling the plug on gnome.  Just getting too hard
> to use with a mouse and keyboard.
>
> would like to get back to something close to gnome 2.  Like I still have
> on my Centos boxes.
>
>
>
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