Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 13.12.2013 08:44, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 12/12/2013 1:19 PM, poma wrote: >> I tested with vaxon77's "delayed mount"[1], however the value required >> for this varies from machine to machine, and on some it isn't necessary >> at all. >> So you can start with one second to more until you reach the automounting. >> >> Do not forget to chmod the file: >> # chmod +x /usr/local/bin/thunar-volman >> >> >> poma >> >> >> [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9193#c0 >> > > I decided manually mounting was an easier solution. If xfce responds to > the bugs, I'll reconsider > There are not many active developers there. Regarding automount it works without problems on my machine, although I don't use it. If, I'd call my pal Dr. Udev D. Dolittle. ;) poma https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893029 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 12/12/2013 1:19 PM, poma wrote: I tested with vaxon77's "delayed mount"[1], however the value required for this varies from machine to machine, and on some it isn't necessary at all. So you can start with one second to more until you reach the automounting. Do not forget to chmod the file: # chmod +x /usr/local/bin/thunar-volman poma [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9193#c0 I decided manually mounting was an easier solution. If xfce responds to the bugs, I'll reconsider -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 12.12.2013 00:25, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Confirmed bug and submitted bugzilla.xfce #10539 (included that user > "poma" from this list found the bug, though I only submitted what I > could confirm through my testing). > > After all this, I discovered that the drives/media still do not > auto-mount, even though the property /misc-volume-management is there > and set to true. A bit of a dig in their bugzilla shows #9193 which > looks kinda similar with a bunch of comments, suggestions, tests, etc. > but no explicit mention of a patch being released. > > I guess I will just see what happens now and, if necessary, get used to > manually mounting the volume. Given how long I've spent on looking at > this issue, I could have manually mounted a whole lot of drives/media > (smile). I tested with vaxon77's "delayed mount"[1], however the value required for this varies from machine to machine, and on some it isn't necessary at all. So you can start with one second to more until you reach the automounting. Do not forget to chmod the file: # chmod +x /usr/local/bin/thunar-volman poma [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9193#c0 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 12/11/2013 7:14 AM, poma wrote: With this[1] patch the Thunar Volume Management is unchecked by default, which reflects the true initial state of this option. Paul, do you want to file a bug report? poma [1] 'thunar-pref-vol-management.diff' - attach Poma: Confirmed bug and submitted bugzilla.xfce #10539 (included that user "poma" from this list found the bug, though I only submitted what I could confirm through my testing). After all this, I discovered that the drives/media still do not auto-mount, even though the property /misc-volume-management is there and set to true. A bit of a dig in their bugzilla shows #9193 which looks kinda similar with a bunch of comments, suggestions, tests, etc. but no explicit mention of a patch being released. I guess I will just see what happens now and, if necessary, get used to manually mounting the volume. Given how long I've spent on looking at this issue, I could have manually mounted a whole lot of drives/media (smile). Thank you for your help Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 11.12.2013 03:52, poma wrote:
> On 10.12.2013 23:02, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>
>> Thanks for reply and additional info. I'm going to need some time to
>> look into this as I need to understand why I should be creating the new
>> property given thunar-volman is installed
>
> This is probably by design, to create properties[1] when you first start
> using them. Although it's probably a bug when the option is turned on by
> default, and the property doesn't exist.
With this[1] patch the Thunar Volume Management is unchecked by default,
which reflects the true initial state of this option.
Paul, do you want to file a bug report?
poma
[1] 'thunar-pref-vol-management.diff' - attach
diff --git a/thunar/thunar-preferences.c b/thunar/thunar-preferences.c
index 41c07d8..205208a 100644
--- a/thunar/thunar-preferences.c
+++ b/thunar/thunar-preferences.c
@@ -462,7 +462,7 @@ thunar_preferences_class_init (ThunarPreferencesClass *klass)
g_param_spec_boolean ("misc-volume-management",
"MiscVolumeManagement",
NULL,
-TRUE,
+FALSE,
EXO_PARAM_READWRITE);
/**
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Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 10.12.2013 23:02, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Thanks for reply and additional info. I'm going to need some time to > look into this as I need to understand why I should be creating the new > property given thunar-volman is installed This is probably by design, to create properties[1] when you first start using them. Although it's probably a bug when the option is turned on by default, and the property doesn't exist. poma [1] $ ll .config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 12/9/2013 7:41 PM, poma wrote: On 09.12.2013 22:11, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 12/9/13 8:15 AM, poma wrote: On 09.12.2013 05:07, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: I am running F19 xfce on a 32bit box (fully updated at the time of this test) I have "Applications Menu -> Settings -> Removable Drives and Media" open Under "Removable Storage": [checked] Mount removable drives when hot-plugged [checked] Mount removable drives when inserted [checked] Browse removable media when inserted [not checked] Auto-run programs on new drives and media [not checked] Auto-open files on new drives and media Nothing else is checked on this or all the other tabs. Whether I hot-plug a memory stick into the computer or plug it in before powering on, it never mounts the volume until I manually go to the icon on the desktop and tell it to "please go mount yourself" Am I not understanding the options under "Settings -> Removable Storage"? I first encountered this in F16 under xfce but figured I wasn't understanding something as I had just switched from F14 gnome where I could hot-plug I have three Linux boxes and it doesn't auto mount on any of them, so I am not thinking it is a hardware problem to a particular machine. This also happens with cd/dvd when inserted ... have to manually "please go mount yourself" (and, yes, the phraseology is intentional as I am rather frustrated by this) Thanks in advance for any advice Paul http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/preferences#advanced_preferences - Volume Management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -s true poma Poma: Thanks for reply. Volume management is checked on as the link you provided shows Running the command "xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management" returns the following: Property "misc-volume-management" does not exist on channel "thunar". The package thunar-volman is already installed on my machine (0.8.0-4.fc19). The only other thing I can spot in your link is reference to HAL. When I hunt around to find out information, I come across the following on the xfce site for thunar-volman: " HAL is undergoing deprecation at the moment. All major distributions push for the removal of HAL in favor of DeviceKit-disks/udisk, DeviceKit-power/upower and udev" (http://wiki.xfce.org/dev/thunar-volman-udev). Everything I can see on this implies the transition as 2009 to 2010 range. :) The requirement part is outdated, anyway the emphasis was on http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/thunar/preferences-advanced.png $ grep Required -A13 /usr/share/doc/thunar-volman-0.8.0/README The other response from Dale suggested that I take it to the xfce general discussion site (which I intend to do after seeing if I get any more info here). Any suggestions on what I should be looking for to better understand the problem? Just play with it. i.e. Re-enable Volume Managment(checkbox) or "Create a new property if it does not already exist"[1], $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -n -t bool -s true poma [1] $ xfconf-query -h Poma: Thanks for reply and additional info. I'm going to need some time to look into this as I need to understand why I should be creating the new property given thunar-volman is installed Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 12/9/2013 11:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:23:49 -0600 Dale Dellutri wrote: This is an XFCE issue, not a fedora issue. You probably should post this question on the XFCE general discussion list: https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce yum search xfce Fedora packaged Xfce, it's allowed. Thank you! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:23:49 -0600 Dale Dellutri wrote: > > This is an XFCE issue, not a fedora issue. You probably should > post this question > on the XFCE general discussion list: > https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce yum search xfce Fedora packaged Xfce, it's allowed. -- Regards, Frank www.frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 09.12.2013 22:11, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > On 12/9/13 8:15 AM, poma wrote: >> On 09.12.2013 05:07, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >>> Hello: >>> >>> I am running F19 xfce on a 32bit box (fully updated at the time of this >>> test) >>> >>> I have "Applications Menu -> Settings -> Removable Drives and Media" open >>> >>> Under "Removable Storage": >>> [checked] Mount removable drives when hot-plugged >>> [checked] Mount removable drives when inserted >>> [checked] Browse removable media when inserted >>> [not checked] Auto-run programs on new drives and media >>> [not checked] Auto-open files on new drives and media >>> >>> Nothing else is checked on this or all the other tabs. >>> >>> Whether I hot-plug a memory stick into the computer or plug it in before >>> powering on, it never mounts the volume until I manually go to the icon >>> on the desktop and tell it to "please go mount yourself" >>> >>> Am I not understanding the options under "Settings -> Removable Storage"? >>> >>> I first encountered this in F16 under xfce but figured I wasn't >>> understanding something as I had just switched from F14 gnome where I >>> could hot-plug >>> >>> I have three Linux boxes and it doesn't auto mount on any of them, so I >>> am not thinking it is a hardware problem to a particular machine. >>> >>> This also happens with cd/dvd when inserted ... have to manually "please >>> go mount yourself" (and, yes, the phraseology is intentional as I am >>> rather frustrated by this) >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any advice >>> Paul >>> >> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/preferences#advanced_preferences >> - Volume Management >> $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management >> $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -s true >> >> >> poma >> >> > Poma: > > Thanks for reply. > > Volume management is checked on as the link you provided shows > > Running the command "xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management" > returns the following: > > Property "misc-volume-management" does not exist on channel "thunar". > > The package thunar-volman is already installed on my machine (0.8.0-4.fc19). > > The only other thing I can spot in your link is reference to HAL. When I > hunt around to find out information, I come across the following on the > xfce site for thunar-volman: " HAL is undergoing deprecation at the > moment. All major distributions push for the removal of HAL in favor of > DeviceKit-disks/udisk, DeviceKit-power/upower and udev" > (http://wiki.xfce.org/dev/thunar-volman-udev). Everything I can see on > this implies the transition as 2009 to 2010 range. :) The requirement part is outdated, anyway the emphasis was on http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/thunar/preferences-advanced.png $ grep Required -A13 /usr/share/doc/thunar-volman-0.8.0/README > The other response from Dale suggested that I take it to the xfce > general discussion site (which I intend to do after seeing if I get any > more info here). > > Any suggestions on what I should be looking for to better understand the > problem? Just play with it. i.e. Re-enable Volume Managment(checkbox) or "Create a new property if it does not already exist"[1], $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -n -t bool -s true poma [1] $ xfconf-query -h -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 12/9/13 8:15 AM, poma wrote: On 09.12.2013 05:07, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Hello: I am running F19 xfce on a 32bit box (fully updated at the time of this test) I have "Applications Menu -> Settings -> Removable Drives and Media" open Under "Removable Storage": [checked] Mount removable drives when hot-plugged [checked] Mount removable drives when inserted [checked] Browse removable media when inserted [not checked] Auto-run programs on new drives and media [not checked] Auto-open files on new drives and media Nothing else is checked on this or all the other tabs. Whether I hot-plug a memory stick into the computer or plug it in before powering on, it never mounts the volume until I manually go to the icon on the desktop and tell it to "please go mount yourself" Am I not understanding the options under "Settings -> Removable Storage"? I first encountered this in F16 under xfce but figured I wasn't understanding something as I had just switched from F14 gnome where I could hot-plug I have three Linux boxes and it doesn't auto mount on any of them, so I am not thinking it is a hardware problem to a particular machine. This also happens with cd/dvd when inserted ... have to manually "please go mount yourself" (and, yes, the phraseology is intentional as I am rather frustrated by this) Thanks in advance for any advice Paul http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/preferences#advanced_preferences - Volume Management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -s true poma Poma: Thanks for reply. Volume management is checked on as the link you provided shows Running the command "xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management" returns the following: Property "misc-volume-management" does not exist on channel "thunar". The package thunar-volman is already installed on my machine (0.8.0-4.fc19). The only other thing I can spot in your link is reference to HAL. When I hunt around to find out information, I come across the following on the xfce site for thunar-volman: " HAL is undergoing deprecation at the moment. All major distributions push for the removal of HAL in favor of DeviceKit-disks/udisk, DeviceKit-power/upower and udev" (http://wiki.xfce.org/dev/thunar-volman-udev). Everything I can see on this implies the transition as 2009 to 2010 range. The other response from Dale suggested that I take it to the xfce general discussion site (which I intend to do after seeing if I get any more info here). Any suggestions on what I should be looking for to better understand the problem? Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On 09.12.2013 05:07, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Hello: > > I am running F19 xfce on a 32bit box (fully updated at the time of this > test) > > I have "Applications Menu -> Settings -> Removable Drives and Media" open > > Under "Removable Storage": > [checked] Mount removable drives when hot-plugged > [checked] Mount removable drives when inserted > [checked] Browse removable media when inserted > [not checked] Auto-run programs on new drives and media > [not checked] Auto-open files on new drives and media > > Nothing else is checked on this or all the other tabs. > > Whether I hot-plug a memory stick into the computer or plug it in before > powering on, it never mounts the volume until I manually go to the icon > on the desktop and tell it to "please go mount yourself" > > Am I not understanding the options under "Settings -> Removable Storage"? > > I first encountered this in F16 under xfce but figured I wasn't > understanding something as I had just switched from F14 gnome where I > could hot-plug > > I have three Linux boxes and it doesn't auto mount on any of them, so I > am not thinking it is a hardware problem to a particular machine. > > This also happens with cd/dvd when inserted ... have to manually "please > go mount yourself" (and, yes, the phraseology is intentional as I am > rather frustrated by this) > > Thanks in advance for any advice > Paul > http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/thunar/preferences#advanced_preferences - Volume Management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management $ xfconf-query -c thunar -p /misc-volume-management -s true poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: auto-mounting removable drives
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: > Hello: > > I am running F19 xfce on a 32bit box (fully updated at the time of this > test) > > I have "Applications Menu -> Settings -> Removable Drives and Media" open > > Under "Removable Storage": > [checked] Mount removable drives when hot-plugged > [checked] Mount removable drives when inserted > [checked] Browse removable media when inserted > [not checked] Auto-run programs on new drives and media > [not checked] Auto-open files on new drives and media > > Nothing else is checked on this or all the other tabs. > > Whether I hot-plug a memory stick into the computer or plug it in before > powering on, it never mounts the volume until I manually go to the icon on > the desktop and tell it to "please go mount yourself" > > Am I not understanding the options under "Settings -> Removable Storage"? > This is an XFCE issue, not a fedora issue. You probably should post this question on the XFCE general discussion list: https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce > > I first encountered this in F16 under xfce but figured I wasn't > understanding something as I had just switched from F14 gnome where I could > hot-plug > > I have three Linux boxes and it doesn't auto mount on any of them, so I am > not thinking it is a hardware problem to a particular machine. > > This also happens with cd/dvd when inserted ... have to manually "please > go mount yourself" (and, yes, the phraseology is intentional as I am rather > frustrated by this) > > Thanks in advance for any advice > Paul > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > -- Dale Dellutri -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
