Re: mouse track-pad
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Richard Vickery < richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do you require a rather ignorant reply in order that I defend myself? I don't even know what that means. I simply pointed out something you appeared not to be aware of. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Richard Vickery < > richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I believe I posted on the test list as well >> > > > In which case you're violating the Guidelines by cross-posting. I notice > you did this for another thread as well. Doing this means that people who > reply on different lists will not see each other's comments, which is why > it's frowned on. > > poc > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > > Do you require a rather ignorant reply in order that I defend myself? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 26 October 2013 18:31, mark wrote: > > On 10/26/13 13:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> > > >> I could be wrong, but I am inclined to be believe these situations seem > to > >> occur after kernel updates. > >> > > Well, I just joined this list a few days ago, and will be leaving. I'd > > joined, because we have three folks at work on fedora, and one, I'd > updated > > Mon? Tues? and rebooted... and that was all she wrote. No X, at all. > After > > fighting for a day and a half, with his ATI FirePro (xinit would open a > > window, with no text/font at all, a black screen otherwise), we gave up > on > > that, and replaced it with an older NVidia card from '04, and after > trying a > > number of different drivers, none of which worked, I finally got the 304 > > legacy one, and *that* was broken - I had to run depmod myself, manually, > > because until I did, modprobe couldn't find it - and the absolute best I > > could do was start it from init 3 with startx, and *that* came up... but > > runlevel 5 refused anything but a black screen. > > > > So he needed a Linux box, and it took me 1.25 hrs to pxeboot him to a > CentOS > > 6, which came up *perfectly*, no video issues at all. After three days of > > fighting bleeding edge fc19. > > > > *shrug* > > > > See y'all around. > > Sorry to hear that, I don't think it's the general experience (I've > tended to find hardware support is good these days). FWIW I'd say > CentOS is a better bet for an office environment anyway if someone > just needs a box, less frequent churn. Feel free to come back if you > ever do find yourself fighting with a Fedora system again. > > If you're still here, here's my 2 cents: It takes a little while for one with the right experience / knowledge to get to your questions. There are a phenomenally fantastic group of people working on Fedora; they /we just need time to get to your questions. Any number of reasons could keep one from getting to your questions: family, vacations, work... Give us time? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Richard Vickery < richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > I believe I posted on the test list as well > In which case you're violating the Guidelines by cross-posting. I notice you did this for another thread as well. Doing this means that people who reply on different lists will not see each other's comments, which is why it's frowned on. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On 26 October 2013 18:31, mark wrote: > On 10/26/13 13:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> >> I could be wrong, but I am inclined to be believe these situations seem to >> occur after kernel updates. >> > Well, I just joined this list a few days ago, and will be leaving. I'd > joined, because we have three folks at work on fedora, and one, I'd updated > Mon? Tues? and rebooted... and that was all she wrote. No X, at all. After > fighting for a day and a half, with his ATI FirePro (xinit would open a > window, with no text/font at all, a black screen otherwise), we gave up on > that, and replaced it with an older NVidia card from '04, and after trying a > number of different drivers, none of which worked, I finally got the 304 > legacy one, and *that* was broken - I had to run depmod myself, manually, > because until I did, modprobe couldn't find it - and the absolute best I > could do was start it from init 3 with startx, and *that* came up... but > runlevel 5 refused anything but a black screen. > > So he needed a Linux box, and it took me 1.25 hrs to pxeboot him to a CentOS > 6, which came up *perfectly*, no video issues at all. After three days of > fighting bleeding edge fc19. > > *shrug* > > See y'all around. Sorry to hear that, I don't think it's the general experience (I've tended to find hardware support is good these days). FWIW I'd say CentOS is a better bet for an office environment anyway if someone just needs a box, less frequent churn. Feel free to come back if you ever do find yourself fighting with a Fedora system again. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Richard Vickery < > richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, mark wrote: >> >>> On 10/25/13 13:47, Richard Vickery wrote: >>> Hi Gang: The mouse doesn't work work on new Acer; any ideas on how I can find it? Apparently Fedora knows that the pad exists, but it is rendered useless right now. What version of FC? >>> >>> mark >> >> >> I'm using F20 >> > > In that case you're on the wrong list. F20 is unreleased and problems > should be discussed on the Test list. > > And please don't cross-post to both lists. I only mention it because I > notice that you did that with another question, which may be why it hasn't > been answered yet. See the Guidelines. > > poc > > I believe I posted on the test list as well -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Richard Vickery < richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, mark wrote: > >> On 10/25/13 13:47, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >>> Hi Gang: >>> >>> The mouse doesn't work work on new Acer; any ideas on how I can find it? >>> Apparently Fedora knows that the pad exists, but it is rendered useless >>> right now. >>> >>> What version of FC? >> >> mark > > > I'm using F20 > In that case you're on the wrong list. F20 is unreleased and problems should be discussed on the Test list. And please don't cross-post to both lists. I only mention it because I notice that you did that with another question, which may be why it hasn't been answered yet. See the Guidelines. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:00 AM, mark wrote: > On 10/25/13 13:47, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> Hi Gang: >> >> The mouse doesn't work work on new Acer; any ideas on how I can find it? >> Apparently Fedora knows that the pad exists, but it is rendered useless >> right now. >> >> What version of FC? > > mark I'm using F20 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On 10/26/13 13:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 10/26/2013 07:00 PM, mark wrote: On 10/25/13 13:47, Richard Vickery wrote: Hi Gang: The mouse doesn't work work on new Acer; any ideas on how I can find it? Apparently Fedora knows that the pad exists, but it is rendered useless right now. What version of FC? I dont't know which issues the OP is having, but I occasionally am facing "mouse is after reboot" with both FC19 and F20 on an older netbook. Rebooting a couple of times seems to help. I could be wrong, but I am inclined to be believe these situations seem to occur after kernel updates. Well, I just joined this list a few days ago, and will be leaving. I'd joined, because we have three folks at work on fedora, and one, I'd updated Mon? Tues? and rebooted... and that was all she wrote. No X, at all. After fighting for a day and a half, with his ATI FirePro (xinit would open a window, with no text/font at all, a black screen otherwise), we gave up on that, and replaced it with an older NVidia card from '04, and after trying a number of different drivers, none of which worked, I finally got the 304 legacy one, and *that* was broken - I had to run depmod myself, manually, because until I did, modprobe couldn't find it - and the absolute best I could do was start it from init 3 with startx, and *that* came up... but runlevel 5 refused anything but a black screen. So he needed a Linux box, and it took me 1.25 hrs to pxeboot him to a CentOS 6, which came up *perfectly*, no video issues at all. After three days of fighting bleeding edge fc19. *shrug* See y'all around. mark, sr. Unix/Linux sysadmin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On 10/26/2013 07:00 PM, mark wrote: On 10/25/13 13:47, Richard Vickery wrote: Hi Gang: The mouse doesn't work work on new Acer; any ideas on how I can find it? Apparently Fedora knows that the pad exists, but it is rendered useless right now. What version of FC? I dont't know which issues the OP is having, but I occasionally am facing "mouse is after reboot" with both FC19 and F20 on an older netbook. Rebooting a couple of times seems to help. I could be wrong, but I am inclined to be believe these situations seem to occur after kernel updates. Ralf -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: mouse track-pad
On 10/25/13 13:47, Richard Vickery wrote: Hi Gang: The mouse doesn't work work on new Acer; any ideas on how I can find it? Apparently Fedora knows that the pad exists, but it is rendered useless right now. What version of FC? mark -- "Think of the elves as being like the CIA: whether or not they're on your side, you don't really want to be noticed by them" - Sean Mead (?), Windycon, 2002 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org