Re: program to read electronic books
On 2/4/10, Greg Woods wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 15:15 +0100, Andras Simon wrote: > >> >> Javascript can be turned off in the preferences. > > That makes it safer, but it also removes all the extra functionality > that would have motivated someone to install Adobe Reader on a Fedora > box in the first place. Yeah, it's not a panacea for all. But it's a relief for someone like me, who needs acroread not for the js-related functionality. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 15:15 +0100, Andras Simon wrote: > > Javascript can be turned off in the preferences. That makes it safer, but it also removes all the extra functionality that would have motivated someone to install Adobe Reader on a Fedora box in the first place. This is what we found even for our Windows users. To get around the 0-day that was out there for more than a month, we had all Adobe users on every platform disable JavaScript. The result was that a lot of documents would no longer display correctly. Adobe and its piss-poor security track record is currently our #1 security headache. For all the reasons already documented in this thread, we are forced to use Adobe Reader, but it is riddled with actively exploited security holes. --Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On 2/3/10, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Documents aren't actually documents but programs that are overly powerful, > so > that reading untrusted documents is not safe. Javascript can be turned off in the preferences. That should help. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On 03/02/2010 20:39, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Huh? OpenJDK is practically identical to Sun Java except for the license. > Except for the browser plugin (which OpenJDK does not include and which is > provided by the IcedTea project), the code is almost 100% Sun code. > Compatibility should be a non-issue. If only I've had to move back to using the Sun JRE to run a big java application we develop. If I use OpenJDK then the performance is abysmal and we get regular HotSpot crashes. The Sun version runs like a charm. This may not something to do with the way OpenJDK is packaged on Fedora rather than a code code issue, but in any case Sun Java = works, Fedora Open JDK = fails. ..and yes I submitted a bug report* with a reproducible test case, but not a peep from the maintainers. Simon. *https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540575 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527420 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On 2/3/10, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 21:00:45 +0100, > Andras Simon wrote: >> On 2/3/10, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> > Adobe Reader is proprietary and not part of Fedora, so it's certainly >> > the >> > worst option. >> > >> >> Sadly, proprietary or not, there are quite a few things going for it. > > And a lot of things not going for it. No question about that! But its output is much better than that of the alternatives' I tried, and it let's me view documents fullscreen under arbitrary magnification. Both are very important for me because I read a lot of pdfs on netbooks with small displays. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > It won't let you print copies if the document has a flag set indicating > not to allow that. By the way, Okular has a checkbox to just ignore this "feature" of the PDF format. :-p Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Joerg Bergmann wrote: > Sorry, but there is no true replacement for the Adobe Reader within > open source. Even for open source created products: I have created > an A0 poster background with Scribus, it contains a partial > transparent image on top of a pattern built of a repeating > 100mm square image. Evince as well as ghostview were unable for > correct showing the pdf as created by Scribus. Adobe reader did it. Have you tried Okular? (That said, if Evince failed on it, Okular probably would have, too.) > The same pitfall is with OpenJava: For true compatibility, one > has to use Sun Java. Compiling with OpenJava did not solve the problem... Huh? OpenJDK is practically identical to Sun Java except for the license. Except for the browser plugin (which OpenJDK does not include and which is provided by the IcedTea project), the code is almost 100% Sun code. Compatibility should be a non-issue. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 21:00:45 +0100, Andras Simon wrote: > On 2/3/10, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Waleed Harbi wrote: > >> He asked for read electronic books and **Adobe Reader still there NOT > >> outdated. > > > > Adobe Reader is proprietary and not part of Fedora, so it's certainly the > > worst option. > > > > Sadly, proprietary or not, there are quite a few things going for it. And a lot of things not going for it. Adobe is an irresponsible company. The product used poor encryption. It won't let you print copies if the document has a flag set indicating not to allow that. Documents aren't actually documents but programs that are overly powerful, so that reading untrusted documents is not safe. They are slow to correct security problems with the product. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On 2/3/10, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Waleed Harbi wrote: >> He asked for read electronic books and **Adobe Reader still there NOT >> outdated. > > Adobe Reader is proprietary and not part of Fedora, so it's certainly the > worst option. > Sadly, proprietary or not, there are quite a few things going for it. Andras -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Am 03.02.2010 20:03, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Waleed Harbi wrote: > >> He asked for read electronic books and **Adobe Reader still there NOT >> outdated. >> > Adobe Reader is proprietary and not part of Fedora, so it's certainly the > worst option. > > >> If there they **outdated the developers will mention about this in the >> main website. He will check then he will decided. >> > That's not a reason to post a link to such an outdated summary Sorry, but there is no true replacement for the Adobe Reader within open source. Even for open source created products: I have created an A0 poster background with Scribus, it contains a partial transparent image on top of a pattern built of a repeating 100mm square image. Evince as well as ghostview were unable for correct showing the pdf as created by Scribus. Adobe reader did it. The same pitfall is with OpenJava: For true compatibility, one has to use Sun Java. Compiling with OpenJava did not solve the problem... Joerg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Waleed Harbi wrote: > He asked for read electronic books and **Adobe Reader still there NOT > outdated. Adobe Reader is proprietary and not part of Fedora, so it's certainly the worst option. > If there they **outdated the developers will mention about this in the > main website. He will check then he will decided. That's not a reason to post a link to such an outdated summary. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:21:13 -0600 Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? > -- > === > positron router malfunction > === > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net > > -- take a look at calibre henk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
*Kevin, He asked for read electronic books and **Adobe Reader still there NOT outdated. If there they **outdated the developers will mention about this in the main website. He will check then he will decided. * -- Best Wishes, Waleed Harbi Dream | Do | Be On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Waleed Harbi wrote: > > *Here they are: > > http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592 > > That link: > * only talks about PDFs. There are many other e-book formats. > * is completely outdated, e.g. it lists Kpdf (which has been replaced by > Okular since Fedora 9) and it claims Okular is not ready for production use > (which was true back in 2006 when it was written, but not anymore now). > >Kevin Kofler > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On 02/02/2010 09:21 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? > There are several in the Fedora repos. You may want to use yumex and do a search on ebook or book reader... Ebook Viewer LRF viewer calbre FBReader I am sure I missed a couple, but this should get you started... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Waleed Harbi wrote: > *Here they are: > http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592 That link: * only talks about PDFs. There are many other e-book formats. * is completely outdated, e.g. it lists Kpdf (which has been replaced by Okular since Fedora 9) and it claims Okular is not ready for production use (which was true back in 2006 when it was written, but not anymore now). Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? Okular can read some of the formats. But unfortunately most of them are DRM- encumbered and cannot be read with anything in Fedora. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? Which format? I'm given to understand that the Amazon Kindle, the B&N whatever, and the Apple iPaid tablet each use either a different format or different DRM crap embedded. Based on reports from people who have one or the other, not personal experience. I saw a reference to a program which claimed to let you buy from the Apple $tore (iTunes, iCrap?) running on Fedora. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 09:21 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? I use and highly recommend fbreader. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 09:21 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? fbreader is one, though I've had some issues with it. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: program to read electronic books
*Here they are: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/58592 *-- Best Wishes, Waleed Harbi Dream | Do | Be On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It seems there was a program to read electronic books available on > Fedora. > What is is name? > -- > === > positron router malfunction > === > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
