Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-11 Thread Randolph D.
http://dooble.sf.net should allow to create a whitelist of accessible
webpages.
dunno if it is taken out again, as it is a censorship.
2013/5/9 davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com

 Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small
 list of websites?

 I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to
 access a couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone and is
 only to be used as stated.

 I need the network up.

 A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want to
 reset. (Unauthorized to do so).

 Any help on this would be appreciated.

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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-11 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 11.05.2013 00:11, schrieb Michael Hennebry:
 On Fri, 10 May 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
 nobody said it is a good solution and i personally would not do it

 but if the OP does not want a appliance between the machine
 and the not by him controlled router there not much left
 
 Could the appliance be something running in a virtual machine?

surely, there is no difference between a physical and a virtual
machine if you need no special hardware, hence that is why
these days even complex production networks are virtualized
for any sort of services and you can by security appliances
from barracuda networks a read-to-deploy VMware-image with
the same functions as the phyiscal ones

but it should strictly not run on the same machine

maybe it woould be possible to assign a dedicated NIC to
the VM which is connected to the internet and declare
the IP of the guest as standard gateway of the host-system
but even for a lot of money i would not do that outside
prove of concept games



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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-11 Thread Fred Roller

On 05/09/2013 10:11 AM, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:

Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small list of 
websites?

I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to access a 
couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone and is only to be 
used as stated.

I need the network up.

A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want to reset. 
(Unauthorized to do so).

Any help on this would be appreciated.

Dave
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Maybe this can help...

http://www.lartc.org/

Advance Routing etc.

Fred
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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:11 AM,
davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
 Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small list 
 of websites?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/easy-whitelist/

I suspect this is not what you want, however. :)

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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-10 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 16:48 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
 dns is not needed for networking on the technical level
 enter the domains you need and want to allow to access in /etc/hosts

Then, later on, when you find that the site isn't accessible anymore,
because the service changed where they host their site, change the IPs
you list in your hosts file.  Worse, find that you have to keep doing
this quite often, because the site spreads itself across different IPs.

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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 9 May 2013 14:11:04 +
davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:

 Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a
 small list of websites?
 

in the machine you want limited.
Use Opendns as the dns servers.
You can set to block all,
but sites you specify.
Even on their free service.
https://www.opendns.com/

Even within a Parish Lan,
have used it to curtail
a public usable PC.


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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.05.2013 18:09, schrieb Frank Murphy:
 On Thu, 9 May 2013 14:11:04 +
 davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a
 small list of websites?
 
 in the machine you want limited. Use Opendns as the dns servers.
 https://www.opendns.com/

after we moved a server to a new location, prepared the change
hours ago by lower the TTL from 1 hour to 5 minutes and find out
that openDNS was one of few dns-servers which answered with the
old IP *some months* later i would not recommend anybody using
it because such things *must not happen - never*

 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: WRONG REPSONSES
Datum: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:16:42 +0100
Von: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
An: cont...@opendns.com

good day

can you explain me why a server which was migrated
Oct 2011 to a new location is still with the old IP
in your nameservers?

OLD: 193.104.1.241
CURRENT: 91.118.73.17

we are SOA for this zone and had a TTL of 5 Minutes
some hours before migration and of 1 hour months
before it was done!

[harry@rh:~]$ nslookup caladan.thelounge.net 208.67.222.222
Server: 208.67.222.222
Address:208.67.222.222#53
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   caladan.thelounge.net
Address: 193.104.1.241



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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-10 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Fri, 10 May 2013, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 10.05.2013 18:03, schrieb Tim:

On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 16:48 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:

dns is not needed for networking on the technical level
enter the domains you need and want to allow to access in /etc/hosts


Then, later on, when you find that the site isn't accessible anymore,
because the service changed where they host their site, change the IPs
you list in your hosts file.  Worse, find that you have to keep doing
this quite often, because the site spreads itself across different IPs


I haven't used this and don't know how well it works:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/easy-whitelist/


nobody said it is a good solution and i personally would not do it

but if the OP does not want a appliance between the machine
and the not by him controlled router there not much left


Could the appliance be something running in a virtual machine?

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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-10 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 18:06 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
 but if the OP does not want a appliance between the machine
 and the not by him controlled router there not much left

There are probably browser plugins that could do it (parental controls,
perhaps), or the configuring a proxy configuration script, as I
mentioned earlier on.

For example, of how to actually do that, this website 
http://www.proxypacfiles.com/proxypac/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=54Itemid=83
details the following:

  -- begin paste --

Blocking sites is also handy. This can be done for a number of reasons –
Spyware/malware sites are very good examples Blocking these sites can be
done very easily – Simply return a proxy value somewhere on a loopback
address so that the requests never actually leave the local machine to
take up network bandwidth. The only caveat with this is to ensure that
your selection of port number isn’t actually listening on the PC which
could odd behavior.

if (dnsDomainIs(host, .badspyware.com) ||
dnsDomainIs(host, .worsespyware2.com)) {
return PROXY 127.0.0.1:48890;
}

  -- end paste --

I might add to that and actually run a simple webserver on the same
machine that responds to any and all local connection attempts to it.
It could respond with an error message saying why it failed, e.g. saying
that only the following list of sites are allowed on this machine (and
list your allowed sites on the page).

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Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread davidschaak1
Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small list of 
websites?

I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to access a 
couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone and is only to be 
used as stated.

I need the network up.

A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want to reset. 
(Unauthorized to do so).

Any help on this would be appreciated.

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RE: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread Shelby, James
Remove dns in /etc/resolv and add the sites manually in /etc/hosts?  You can 
still access the sites by ip but dns for things like www.google.com won't work.

The sites added must be static ips or that won't work in which case a caching 
DNS and some restrictions can be done but more of a headache.


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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:11 AM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small list of 
websites?

I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to access a 
couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone and is only to be 
used as stated.

I need the network up.

A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want to reset. 
(Unauthorized to do so).

Any help on this would be appreciated.

Dave
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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread davidschaak1
Sorry about top posting. Bbm won't allow bottom posts.

Thanks will try it out.

Dave

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To: davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: RE: Restricting browsers to only listed websites
Sent: May 9, 2013 10:14

Remove dns in /etc/resolv and add the sites manually in /etc/hosts?  You can 
still access the sites by ip but dns for things like www.google.com won't work.

The sites added must be static ips or that won't work in which case a caching 
DNS and some restrictions can be done but more of a headache.


From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of 
davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com [davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 8:11 AM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small list of 
websites?

I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to access a 
couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone and is only to be 
used as stated.

I need the network up.

A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want to reset. 
(Unauthorized to do so).

Any help on this would be appreciated.

Dave
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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread davidschaak1
Apologies for top posting.

Thanks for the suggestion and I would do that if it was the gateway machine.

My etc/resolve.conf file has to references to rogers namesaver in it.

If I rem out those 2 lines I don't think that machine will go anywhere.

I may be wrong on that.

Dave

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From: Terry Polzin
To: davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites
Sent: May 9, 2013 10:31

On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 14:11 +,
davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
 Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small list 
 of websites?

 I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to access 
 a couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone and is only to 
 be used as stated.

 I need the network up.

 A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want to 
 reset. (Unauthorized to do so).

 Any help on this would be appreciated.

 Dave
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Use squid as a proxy maybe?



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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread davidschaak1
thanks for the suggestion about bottom posting and I have tried to do that 
before. The only version of bbm that works on this phone will not allow it.

Also thank you for the info. I did not know this.

Dave

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-Original Message-
From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 16:48:11 
To: davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com; Community support for Fedora 
usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

Am 09.05.2013 16:43, schrieb davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com:
 Apologies for top posting.

instead apologies move your cursor down
this is possible even on a mobile

 Thanks for the suggestion and I would do that if it was the gateway machine.
 My etc/resolve.conf file has to references to rogers namesaver in it.
 If I rem out those 2 lines I don't think that machine will go anywhere.
 I may be wrong on that

why?
dns is not needed for networking on the technical level
enter the domains you need and want to allow to access in /etc/hosts



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RE: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread Shelby, James
Basically you are going to have that system act as its own dns lookup.  Any 
entries you need external will need to be in /etc/host to limit access.


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To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

Apologies for top posting.

Thanks for the suggestion and I would do that if it was the gateway machine.

My etc/resolve.conf file has to references to rogers namesaver in it.

If I rem out those 2 lines I don't think that machine will go anywhere.

I may be wrong on that.

Dave

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From: Terry Polzin
To: davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites
Sent: May 9, 2013 10:31

On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 14:11 +,
davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
 Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a small list 
 of websites?

 I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to access 
 a couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone and is only to 
 be used as stated.

 I need the network up.

 A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want to 
 reset. (Unauthorized to do so).

 Any help on this would be appreciated.

 Dave
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Use squid as a proxy maybe?



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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread davidschaak1
Not everyone can afford contracts or paying 600 dollars for new gizmos.
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-Original Message-
From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 17:04:11 
To: davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com; Community support for Fedora 
usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites


Am 09.05.2013 16:51, schrieb davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com:
 thanks for the suggestion about bottom posting and I have tried to do that 
 before. 
 The only version of bbm that works on this phone will not allow it

i do not believe this

that would mean a device in 2013 would only support TOFU and NOT allow
you to edit the quoted text? hardly no and if this is would be really
the case give it back to the seller because it is broken and can not
be repaired



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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 May 2013,
davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com sent:
 Is there a way to allow a machine on the network to only access a
 small list of websites?
 
 I have a fedora 17 machine that is hooked to a tv that I only want to
 access a couple of sites for movies. This is accessible to everyone
 and is only to be used as stated.
 
 I need the network up.
 
 A Cisco router is between the machine and the net that I do not want
 to reset. (Unauthorized to do so). 

Possibly, you could write a proxy.pac file for the browser, and
configure the browser to use it to set up its proxy.  You'd write the
proxy.pac file to allow connections through to specific sites that you
list, and then have an or/else kind of response for everything else that
just isn't going to make a working connection.

Something like the following:

function FindProxyForURL(url, host)
{
if (isPlainHostName(host)  ||
dnsDomainIs(host, .example.com) ||
dnsDomainIs(host, localhost) ||
dnsDomainIs(host, .localdomain) ||  
dnsDomainIs(host, .google.com.au) ||  
isInNet (host, 127.0.0.0, 255.255.255.0) ||
isInNet (host, 192.168.0.0, 255.255.0.0))
return DIRECT;
else
return PROXY 
false.or.firewall.address.that.allows.no.traffic.example.com:3128; DIRECT;
}

If I recall correctly, it's a JavaScript scheme, so there's probably a
lot more that you can do with it, if you look up how to write PAC files
(proxy access control files).

In my case, I was using the file to allow direct connections to the
first few listed addresses, and everything else would go through the LAN
proxy.  You'd either use a blocking proxy, or list an address that was
simply not going to respond, therefore connections would fail.

Test this out carefully, I suppose that some browsers may eventually
give up on a failing-to-respond proxy, and might try bypassing it.

   -

Another solution is a DNS server running on the same machine.  You could
configure it to forward queries for your allowed domain names to name
servers that would provide correct answers, or simply have your name
server get the answers, itself.  Then use a wildcard record that
answered everything else incorrectly (so connection attempts would
fail).

I've done this the other way around (failing specific addresses and
allowing everything else to work normally), but it ought to be possible
to do it both ways.

The PAC file approach may be simpler.  It can simply be a local file on
the same computer as the browser.

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Re: Restricting browsers to only listed websites

2013-05-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.05.2013 16:43, schrieb davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com:
 Apologies for top posting.

instead apologies move your cursor down
this is possible even on a mobile

 Thanks for the suggestion and I would do that if it was the gateway machine.
 My etc/resolve.conf file has to references to rogers namesaver in it.
 If I rem out those 2 lines I don't think that machine will go anywhere.
 I may be wrong on that

why?
dns is not needed for networking on the technical level
enter the domains you need and want to allow to access in /etc/hosts




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