Re: [Bulk] Re: Curiosity Question -- TVTime loses focus after installing F13 - [SOLVED WITH LATEST UPDATES]

2010-09-04 Thread William Case
Hi Bill
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 23:35 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> William Case wrote:
> > Hi Terry;
> > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:01 -0400, Terry Polzin wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 12:53 -0400, William Case wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:46 -0400, William Case wrote:
> >> Just curious what do you do to get audio?
> > 
> > I don't get audio.  After futzing about for a long while, submitting
> > bugs, following the alsa mailing list, I gave up.  Now I just use the
> > video in Linux to check what's on, to see what my favourite programs or
> > sports are doing etc.  If I want to watch some TV, I switch to WindowsXP
> > or watch on the TV set in the livingroom.
> > 
> I'm sure this is a redundant question, but have you enabled oss sound for 
> alsa? 
> If you do an 'lsmod' is 'snd-seq-oss' present? Do you have /dev/dsp present? 
> I 
> have problems with TV because my provider serves a mashup of unencrypted HD 
> digital using over the air frequencies, encrypted content requiring a cable 
> box, 
> and unencrypted NTSC using either the broadcast or cable settings for those.
> 
> /etc/modules.d/dis-oss.conf is the disabled file, copy to oss.conf and 
> uncomment 
> the module loading, and see if that make lots of stuff work. Note: it may 
> confuse something as well, although I haven't had a problem yet.

Actually it is not a redundant question.  It is a good reminder which I
will try in the morning.  I tried it early on in process, when I first
stepped onto the TV yellow brick road. It didn't work, but then to be
fair at that time I didn't have a clue about what I was trying to do.
Now is a good time to give it another try. 
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Re: Curiosity Question -- TVTime loses focus after installing F13 - [SOLVED WITH LATEST UPDATES]

2010-09-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
William Case wrote:
> Hi Terry;
> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:01 -0400, Terry Polzin wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 12:53 -0400, William Case wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:46 -0400, William Case wrote:
>> Just curious what do you do to get audio?
> 
> I don't get audio.  After futzing about for a long while, submitting
> bugs, following the alsa mailing list, I gave up.  Now I just use the
> video in Linux to check what's on, to see what my favourite programs or
> sports are doing etc.  If I want to watch some TV, I switch to WindowsXP
> or watch on the TV set in the livingroom.
> 
I'm sure this is a redundant question, but have you enabled oss sound for alsa? 
If you do an 'lsmod' is 'snd-seq-oss' present? Do you have /dev/dsp present? I 
have problems with TV because my provider serves a mashup of unencrypted HD 
digital using over the air frequencies, encrypted content requiring a cable 
box, 
and unencrypted NTSC using either the broadcast or cable settings for those.

/etc/modules.d/dis-oss.conf is the disabled file, copy to oss.conf and 
uncomment 
the module loading, and see if that make lots of stuff work. Note: it may 
confuse something as well, although I haven't had a problem yet.

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Re: Curiosity Question -- TVTime loses focus after installing F13 - [SOLVED WITH LATEST UPDATES]

2010-09-02 Thread William Case
Hi Terry;
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:01 -0400, Terry Polzin wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 12:53 -0400, William Case wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:46 -0400, William Case wrote:
> Just curious what do you do to get audio?

I don't get audio.  After futzing about for a long while, submitting
bugs, following the alsa mailing list, I gave up.  Now I just use the
video in Linux to check what's on, to see what my favourite programs or
sports are doing etc.  If I want to watch some TV, I switch to WindowsXP
or watch on the TV set in the livingroom.

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Re: Curiosity Question -- TVTime loses focus after installing F13 - [SOLVED WITH LATEST UPDATES]

2010-09-02 Thread David Timms
On 02/09/10 02:53, William Case wrote:
> My video has returned in full glorious colour after my latest upgrade
...
> Updated: xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-18.fc13.x86_64
> Installed: kernel-2.6.34.6-47.fc13.x86_64
.. are my guesses. rpm -q --changelog on each one.

you might be able to tell if it was only a patch to the same upstream
archive, or whether it is a new upstream release, and can hence read
their changelog...
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Re: Curiosity Question -- TVTime loses focus after installing F13 - [SOLVED WITH LATEST UPDATES]

2010-09-01 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 12:53 -0400, William Case wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:46 -0400, William Case wrote:
Just curious what do you do to get audio?


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Re: Curiosity Question -- TVTime loses focus after installing F13 - [SOLVED WITH LATEST UPDATES]

2010-09-01 Thread William Case
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 14:46 -0400, William Case wrote:
> Hi;
> 
> I have a Hauppauge WinTv-HVR 1800 tuner with an analog Cable TV (NTSC -
> Canada).  In F12 I received a near perfect video picture from my cable
> TV.  In F13, the picture is black and white with various degrees of
> interference lines depending on the tv channel.
> 
> I have played with (used) TVTime quite a bit in the last 3 or 4 years so
> I am familiar with all the menu settings and the configuration file.  No
> matter what I try, I can't get the proper reception back.
> 
> I still have no analog sound for this tuner, but I see that as a
> separate Alsa problem.

My video has returned in full glorious colour after my latest upgrade
this morning.  I spent a few hours trying to chase this problem down.  I
am curious, does anybody know (off the top of your head) what might have
fixed the video?  My downloads were:

Installed: opencc-0.1.1-1.fc13.x86_64
Updated: libfprint-0.2.0-1.fc13.x86_64
Updated: fprintd-0.2.0-1.fc13.x86_64
Updated: fprintd-pam-0.2.0-1.fc13.x86_64
Updated: empathy-2.30.3-1.fc13.x86_64
Updated: xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-18.fc13.x86_64
Installed: kernel-2.6.34.6-47.fc13.x86_64
Updated: ibus-pinyin-db-android-1.3.10-1.fc13.noarch
Updated: 1:control-center-filesystem-2.30.1-3.fc13.x86_64
Updated: 1:control-center-2.30.1-3.fc13.x86_64
Updated: 1:control-center-extra-2.30.1-3.fc13.x86_64
Updated: ibus-pinyin-1.3.10-1.fc13.x86_64
Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.34.6-47.fc13.x86_64
Installed: kernel-devel-2.6.34.6-47.fc13.x86_64
Updated: perf-2.6.34.6-47.fc13.noarch


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Re: TVTime loses focus after installing F13

2010-08-27 Thread David Timms
On 27/08/10 10:09, Michael Miles wrote:
> Just to see if it is a problem with tvtime and F13

I'm assuming it's reception of the signal that you are having trouble with.

But if it's the output, it could be that the output is set for YC
(s-video), but you have only the composite video connected (or connected
to the Y pin). I guess the same can happen in the analog to digital
encoding or decoding of the signal, but I'm unfamiliar with your app and
card.
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Re: TVTime loses focus after installing F13

2010-08-26 Thread Michael Miles
William Case wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 12:30 -0700, Michael Miles wrote:
>
>> William Case wrote:
>>  
>>> Hi;
>>>
>>> I have a Hauppauge WinTv-HVR 1800 tuner with an analog Cable TV (NTSC -
>>> Canada).  In F12 I received a near perfect video picture from my cable
>>> TV.  In F13, the picture is black and white with various degrees of
>>> interference lines depending on the tv channel.
>>>
>>> I have played with (used) TVTime quite a bit in the last 3 or 4 years so
>>> I am familiar with all the menu settings and the configuration file.  No
>>> matter what I try, I can't get the proper reception back.
>>>
>>> I still have no analog sound for this tuner, but I see that as a
>>> separate Alsa problem.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions as to what I might be overlooking or might have
>>> mis-configured with the video?
>>>
>>>
>> In the channel management section try and change the NTSC cable mode and
>> see if that helps
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>  
> I tried that; nothing improves.
>
>
If the manual fine tuning does not work then I don't know as I have had 
no problems with tvtime at all with F12.
I have not switched to F13 yet because there just seems to be too many 
problems and I will wait for F14 as the video problems of F13 should be 
fixed by then,.



  Try XDTV and see if you can get a picture clear. It's a bit cumbersome 
but works and it will record

I had to set the tv norm to ntsc m to get it to work

Just to see if it is a problem with tvtime and F13
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Re: TVTime loses focus after installing F13

2010-08-26 Thread William Case
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 12:30 -0700, Michael Miles wrote:
> William Case wrote:
> > Hi;
> >
> > I have a Hauppauge WinTv-HVR 1800 tuner with an analog Cable TV (NTSC -
> > Canada).  In F12 I received a near perfect video picture from my cable
> > TV.  In F13, the picture is black and white with various degrees of
> > interference lines depending on the tv channel.
> >
> > I have played with (used) TVTime quite a bit in the last 3 or 4 years so
> > I am familiar with all the menu settings and the configuration file.  No
> > matter what I try, I can't get the proper reception back.
> >
> > I still have no analog sound for this tuner, but I see that as a
> > separate Alsa problem.
> >
> > Any suggestions as to what I might be overlooking or might have
> > mis-configured with the video?
> >
> In the channel management section try and change the NTSC cable mode and 
> see if that helps
> 
> 
> Michael

I tried that; nothing improves.

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Re: TVTime loses focus after installing F13

2010-08-26 Thread Michael Miles
William Case wrote:
> Hi;
>
> I have a Hauppauge WinTv-HVR 1800 tuner with an analog Cable TV (NTSC -
> Canada).  In F12 I received a near perfect video picture from my cable
> TV.  In F13, the picture is black and white with various degrees of
> interference lines depending on the tv channel.
>
> I have played with (used) TVTime quite a bit in the last 3 or 4 years so
> I am familiar with all the menu settings and the configuration file.  No
> matter what I try, I can't get the proper reception back.
>
> I still have no analog sound for this tuner, but I see that as a
> separate Alsa problem.
>
> Any suggestions as to what I might be overlooking or might have
> mis-configured with the video?
>
In the channel management section try and change the NTSC cable mode and 
see if that helps


Michael
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TVTime loses focus after installing F13

2010-08-26 Thread William Case
Hi;

I have a Hauppauge WinTv-HVR 1800 tuner with an analog Cable TV (NTSC -
Canada).  In F12 I received a near perfect video picture from my cable
TV.  In F13, the picture is black and white with various degrees of
interference lines depending on the tv channel.

I have played with (used) TVTime quite a bit in the last 3 or 4 years so
I am familiar with all the menu settings and the configuration file.  No
matter what I try, I can't get the proper reception back.

I still have no analog sound for this tuner, but I see that as a
separate Alsa problem.

Any suggestions as to what I might be overlooking or might have
mis-configured with the video?
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