Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
Just a follow up on this. Last month it seemed to have fixed itself, but last week it started to occur again. This time I replaced the old trackball with another one, and that appears to have corrected the problem. So it does appear that it was the mouse itself. As a test, I'm going to bring the mouse to work tomorrow where I run Fedora 20 as my primary desktop system. On 02/05/2014 09:52 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > It is the older trackball with the ball on the left. I have one at work > with the ball in the center. > In any case, the latest update seemed to have alleviated the problem. > Not sure what the issue was.. > > On 02/04/2014 05:45 PM, g wrote: >> hello jerry, >> >> On 02/04/2014 11:45 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >>> On 02/01/2014 08:45 PM, g wrote: On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: <<>> >> selecting above from you post, presents a question, >> >> have you tried using another mouse? >> > That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had > many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse > body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and > resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. >>> It is a Logitech Marble Mouse (eg. track ball). >> ok. >> >> as i have stated, i have had no problems with mine. and only >> maintenance is cleaning the 3 points the ball rolls on. every >> couple months, i do clean the lens in bottom area. >> >> there are 2 types: >> thumb, with marble to side - now called ball >> palm/fingers, with marble in center - now called marble >> >> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs >> >> because the names have changed with introduction of 'palm', >> which model, part number, and serial number? >> >> are you using standard mouse driver or something logitech related? >> >> only time that i have used logitech driver was with oos to emulate >> scroll wheel. have yet to set up emulation with linux. >> [see links below] >> >> running an update may have included mouse driver. did you check for >> that? have you checked your settings? >> >> >> from my bookmarks collection, if you care to read them, ubuntu forums >> and linux questions have pages on configuring logitech mice; >> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&s=b2117097c76b9a814d33baf3ac8cb230 >> >> >> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/logitech-trackball-problem-116297/ >> >> >> if you happen to have m570 [which i am doubting]; >> >> http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/M570-and-Linux/td-p/545324 >> >> >> using xorg.conf and XF86Config; >> >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/xorg-conf-and-logitech-trackman-marble-mouse-914884/ >> >> >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/fine-tuning-logitech-marble-mouse-trackball-186348/ >> >> >> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/logitech-ps-2-mouse-jumps-in-x-197831/ >> >> >> scroll wheel emulation; >> >> http://blog.karssen.org/2010/09/11/linux-the-logitech-trackman-marble-and-emulating-a-scroll-wheel/ >> >> >> i have more, but i do not want to load the list down. :-) >> -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/05/2014 11:38 AM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 02/06/14 00:57, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 04 February 2014, Ed Greshko sent: Never a problem here. Keyboard/mouse retain connection no matter what. I even take the keyboard out of reception range to vacuum out the cat hair while the system is up and bring it back and it reestablishes connection without problem. Just lucky I guess Could well be... Tell us the model, so the next person who wants to get a reliable one has a fighting chance. I think the mouse is an M310 or M318. The sticker on the bottom is rather frayed. Not sure what the keyboard is as the sticker on it is gonebut they came together and are both just very basic models. I use a Logitech "Wave" wireless keyboard and laser mouse (they came as a bundle). Uses a USB dongle to work (RF, I think). Mouse has five buttons (one on each side, one on each side of the wheel, and depressing the wheel is another button). Never had a problem (other than batteries dying). -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - LOOK OUT!!! BEHIND YOU!!! - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
hello again, On 02/05/2014 08:52 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: It is the older trackball with the ball on the left. I have one at work with the ball in the center. In any case, the latest update seemed to have alleviated the problem. Not sure what the issue was.. great. glad to hear you have your trackball working again and that it was software related. i have been considering installing f20 and it now looks like i may do so. i will be sure to have all updates installed before i start using it. i had forgotten about the ubuntuforums.org link until i checked my bookmarks and found it. thinking again about link, i checked it again and it is for the 4 button trackman marble, such, maybe as what you have at work. i ran a new search with tighter params and found some more links for logitech thumb ball. among them is one for 4 button trackman marble, later and better than link i posted. contact me off list if you want them. keep you balls rolling. ;-) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/06/14 00:57, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 04 February 2014, Ed Greshko sent: >> Never a problem here. Keyboard/mouse retain connection no matter >> what. I even take the keyboard out of reception range to vacuum out >> the cat hair while the system is up and bring it back and it >> reestablishes connection without problem. >> >> Just lucky I guess > Could well be... Tell us the model, so the next person who wants to get > a reliable one has a fighting chance. > I think the mouse is an M310 or M318. The sticker on the bottom is rather frayed. Not sure what the keyboard is as the sticker on it is gonebut they came together and are both just very basic models. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
Allegedly, on or about 04 February 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > I've had poor results from Logitech BT mice (mechanical problems, > several have failed after a few months of use). The mouse I keep repairing is a cheap basic Logitech. I've dirtied my other computer with a cheap Microsoft mouse that seems quite good, other than the chunkiness of the mouse wheel rotation. Unfortunately around here, if I want to go out to a shop and buy a mouse, my choices seem to be stupidly expensive gamer's mice covered in buttons, or weird cheapo brands that look like they're made of horrible cheap plastic. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
Allegedly, on or about 04 February 2014, Ed Greshko sent: > Never a problem here. Keyboard/mouse retain connection no matter > what. I even take the keyboard out of reception range to vacuum out > the cat hair while the system is up and bring it back and it > reestablishes connection without problem. > > Just lucky I guess Could well be... Tell us the model, so the next person who wants to get a reliable one has a fighting chance. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
It is the older trackball with the ball on the left. I have one at work with the ball in the center. In any case, the latest update seemed to have alleviated the problem. Not sure what the issue was.. On 02/04/2014 05:45 PM, g wrote: > > hello jerry, > > On 02/04/2014 11:45 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> >> On 02/01/2014 08:45 PM, g wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: >>> <<>> > selecting above from you post, presents a question, > > have you tried using another mouse? > That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. >>> >>> get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. >>> >>> you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which >>> is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. >>> >> It is a Logitech Marble Mouse (eg. track ball). > > ok. > > as i have stated, i have had no problems with mine. and only > maintenance is cleaning the 3 points the ball rolls on. every > couple months, i do clean the lens in bottom area. > > there are 2 types: > thumb, with marble to side - now called ball > palm/fingers, with marble in center - now called marble > > http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs > > because the names have changed with introduction of 'palm', > which model, part number, and serial number? > > are you using standard mouse driver or something logitech related? > > only time that i have used logitech driver was with oos to emulate > scroll wheel. have yet to set up emulation with linux. > [see links below] > > running an update may have included mouse driver. did you check for > that? have you checked your settings? > > > from my bookmarks collection, if you care to read them, ubuntu forums > and linux questions have pages on configuring logitech mice; > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&s=b2117097c76b9a814d33baf3ac8cb230 > > > https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/logitech-trackball-problem-116297/ > > > if you happen to have m570 [which i am doubting]; > > http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/M570-and-Linux/td-p/545324 > > > using xorg.conf and XF86Config; > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/xorg-conf-and-logitech-trackman-marble-mouse-914884/ > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/fine-tuning-logitech-marble-mouse-trackball-186348/ > > > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/logitech-ps-2-mouse-jumps-in-x-197831/ > > > scroll wheel emulation; > > http://blog.karssen.org/2010/09/11/linux-the-logitech-trackman-marble-and-emulating-a-scroll-wheel/ > > > i have more, but i do not want to load the list down. :-) > -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
hello jerry, On 02/04/2014 11:45 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: On 02/01/2014 08:45 PM, g wrote: On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: <<>> selecting above from you post, presents a question, have you tried using another mouse? That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. It is a Logitech Marble Mouse (eg. track ball). ok. as i have stated, i have had no problems with mine. and only maintenance is cleaning the 3 points the ball rolls on. every couple months, i do clean the lens in bottom area. there are 2 types: thumb, with marble to side - now called ball palm/fingers, with marble in center - now called marble http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs because the names have changed with introduction of 'palm', which model, part number, and serial number? are you using standard mouse driver or something logitech related? only time that i have used logitech driver was with oos to emulate scroll wheel. have yet to set up emulation with linux. [see links below] running an update may have included mouse driver. did you check for that? have you checked your settings? from my bookmarks collection, if you care to read them, ubuntu forums and linux questions have pages on configuring logitech mice; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219894&s=b2117097c76b9a814d33baf3ac8cb230 https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/logitech-trackball-problem-116297/ if you happen to have m570 [which i am doubting]; http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Mice-and-Pointing-Devices/M570-and-Linux/td-p/545324 using xorg.conf and XF86Config; http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/xorg-conf-and-logitech-trackman-marble-mouse-914884/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/fine-tuning-logitech-marble-mouse-trackball-186348/ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/logitech-ps-2-mouse-jumps-in-x-197831/ scroll wheel emulation; http://blog.karssen.org/2010/09/11/linux-the-logitech-trackman-marble-and-emulating-a-scroll-wheel/ i have more, but i do not want to load the list down. :-) -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/01/2014 08:45 PM, g wrote: > > > On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: >> On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: > <<>> >>> selecting above from you post, presents a question, >>> >>> have you tried using another mouse? >>> >> >> That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had >> many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse >> body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and >> resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. > > get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. > > you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which > is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. > It is a Logitech Marble Mouse (eg. track ball). -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/01/2014 06:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: >> >> On 02/01/2014 09:02 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: >> <> >> >>> While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, >>> I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal. >>> Since this occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma >>> to eliminate Gnome. >>> The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3. >>> Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole. >>> The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either >>> cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is >>> done. >>> I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on >>> a button, it tends to double click. >>> I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel >>> to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue >>> appears with the local X server. >> selecting above from you post, presents a question, >> >> have you tried using another mouse? >> > That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had > many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse > body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and > resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. > Thanks. I'll experiment with it, but I still suspect a software problem because I noticed it immediately after and update that had x.org as one of the components. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Usual, in the type of design. A receiver plugged into the computer, a >> battery powered transmitter in the mouse. > > OK, that is exactly what I have. Tiny USB receiver plugged into the back of > my system. Slightly OT, but I prefer Bluetooth mice. No need to take up a USB port or worry about driver compatibility (if that's still an issue, I wouldn't know). All the same, I've had poor results from Logitech BT mice (mechanical problems, several have failed after a few months of use). poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/03/2014 01:17 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 02/02/14 21:59, Tim wrote: >> Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have to >> keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware (the >> transmitter and receiver pair). > > Not sure what you mean by the "usual wireless ones". FWIW, I've got a > Logitech USB keyboard/mouse combo. When I bought them I put a sticker in the > battery compartment with the date. I just checked and on Feb 7th it will be > one year without changing the batteries in either. Also, neither of the two > have any "reconnect" or "resync" buttons and I've never had a "connection" > issue. > > I've also never had to re-solder any connections on any of my mice even > though I have one cat that thinks it is hilarious she can maneuver the mouse > from anywhere on the desk and toss it to the floor.usually at 3AM. > Well you must be a light duty user ;-) -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/03/14 23:01, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have >>> to keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware >>> (the transmitter and receiver pair). > Ed Greshko: >> Not sure what you mean by the "usual wireless ones". > Usual, in the type of design. A receiver plugged into the computer, a > battery powered transmitter in the mouse. OK, that is exactly what I have. Tiny USB receiver plugged into the back of my system. > With mine, and with other people I know, it became necessary to press > the resync buttons, on receiver and transmitter, every now and then, to > pair the two together. Perhaps the receiver doesn't store the > information, and only holds it while it receives power from the > computer? Some people leave there's on, others turn their computer's > power off, or the BIOS turns the port's power off when shut down. Never a problem here. Keyboard/mouse retain connection no matter what. I even take the keyboard out of reception range to vacuum out the cat hair while the system is up and bring it back and it reestablishes connection without problem. Just lucky I guess -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
Tim: >> Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have >> to keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware >> (the transmitter and receiver pair). Ed Greshko: > Not sure what you mean by the "usual wireless ones". Usual, in the type of design. A receiver plugged into the computer, a battery powered transmitter in the mouse. With mine, and with other people I know, it became necessary to press the resync buttons, on receiver and transmitter, every now and then, to pair the two together. Perhaps the receiver doesn't store the information, and only holds it while it receives power from the computer? Some people leave there's on, others turn their computer's power off, or the BIOS turns the port's power off when shut down. I hear the same stories about people continually needing to re-associate their bluetooth hardware. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/02/14 21:59, Tim wrote: > Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have to > keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware (the > transmitter and receiver pair). Not sure what you mean by the "usual wireless ones". FWIW, I've got a Logitech USB keyboard/mouse combo. When I bought them I put a sticker in the battery compartment with the date. I just checked and on Feb 7th it will be one year without changing the batteries in either. Also, neither of the two have any "reconnect" or "resync" buttons and I've never had a "connection" issue. I've also never had to re-solder any connections on any of my mice even though I have one cat that thinks it is hilarious she can maneuver the mouse from anywhere on the desk and toss it to the floor.usually at 3AM. -- Getting tired of non-Fedora discussions and self-serving posts -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/01/2014 08:32 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > I am running F20 with the latest updates, and recently there is a > problem with text selection. While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, > I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal. Since this > occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma to eliminate > Gnome. The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3. > Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole. > The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either > cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is > done. I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on > a button, it tends to double click. > > I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel > to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue > appears with the local X server. As an example, I clicked at the end of > the previous sentence and the background panel came up, so it seems that > it is not restricted to an application or rendering engine. At this > point I am wondering if anyone else had a similar problem. > Tried tinkering with the mouse sensitivity settings ? -- Regards, Rejy M Cyriac (rmc) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/02/2014 12:26 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:04 PM, g wrote: 3rd gen is wireless, programmable buttons, and now called 'trackball'. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-trackball-m570 once you try one you will never go back to regular 'move around' mouse. i have converted at least 10 people to them. Primitive trackballs actually predate mice. I used a home-made one in the Cambridge Computer Lab in 1971. I also used commercial ones on Vector General graphics stations in the mid-70's. AFAIK the first mouse was born when someone (Douglas Englebart?) turned a trackball upside down. i do not know that he turned a trackball upside down, but he is credited for a mouse before it had a ball; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_%28computing%29 track balls are at; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trackball which was mentioned in thread to your post; }> Message-ID: <1376920807.3853.4.camel@dusty> }> Subject: Mouse button debouncing }> From: Patrick O'Callaghan }> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org }> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:00:07 +0100 -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:04 PM, g wrote: > 3rd gen is wireless, programmable buttons, and now called 'trackball'. > > http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-trackball-m570 > > once you try one you will never go back to regular 'move around' > mouse. i have converted at least 10 people to them. Primitive trackballs actually predate mice. I used a home-made one in the Cambridge Computer Lab in 1971. I also used commercial ones on Vector General graphics stations in the mid-70's. AFAIK the first mouse was born when someone (Douglas Englebart?) turned a trackball upside down. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
hi tim, On 02/02/2014 07:59 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 01 February 2014, g sent: get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have to keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware (the transmitter and receiver pair). There's another type (that I'd like to try), where the mouse pad plugs into the computer, and you use an unpowered mouse above the pad. Since the mouse pad isn't moved, it should have a long life. sounds like a good idea, but i would imagine it might have a high price. I have to keep resoldering the buttons in my mice, as they get dry joints and become unreliable, due to mechanical stress. Either through normal use, or mice that get dropped off the table and fall on their buttons. Mind you, I'm talking about mice that I've used for many years, other people might just buy a new mouse every couple of years. I don't like being that wasteful i have yet to have to do any maintenance on my thumb marble, other than removing marble and cleaning lint from the 3 support points the marble/ball rolls on. it is easy to do and takes less than a minute. thumb marble i have is a logitech trackman marble, which i bought about a year after they came out, over 20 years ago. 2nd generation of this style had scroll wheel. 3rd gen is wireless, programmable buttons, and now called 'trackball'. http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-trackball-m570 once you try one you will never go back to regular 'move around' mouse. i have converted at least 10 people to them. what i find convenient is you move only your thumb to move pointer, do not have to raise and reposition a mouse to move a long distance, it just sits waiting to be use, and if you are working with a bunch of papers or books, i will sit on top of them and still work. if this one ever dies, i will most definitely buy the wireless model. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
Allegedly, on or about 01 February 2014, g sent: > get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. > > you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which > is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. Or a cordless mouse... The usual wireless ones are a pain, you have to keep on replacing or recharging batteries, and resyncing hardware (the transmitter and receiver pair). There's another type (that I'd like to try), where the mouse pad plugs into the computer, and you use an unpowered mouse above the pad. Since the mouse pad isn't moved, it should have a long life. I have to keep resoldering the buttons in my mice, as they get dry joints and become unreliable, due to mechanical stress. Either through normal use, or mice that get dropped off the table and fall on their buttons. Mind you, I'm talking about mice that I've used for many years, other people might just buy a new mouse every couple of years. I don't like being that wasteful. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/01/2014 05:57 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: <<>> selecting above from you post, presents a question, have you tried using another mouse? That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. get a thumb marble and you can forget about having cord problems. you can forget about keeping a "mouse arena" cleared also. which is one of many reason i got a thumb marble. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/01/2014 03:14 PM, g wrote: > > > On 02/01/2014 09:02 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > <> > >> While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, >> I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal. > >> Since this occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma >> to eliminate Gnome. > >> The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3. > >> Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole. > >> The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either >> cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is >> done. > >> I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on >> a button, it tends to double click. > >> I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel >> to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue >> appears with the local X server. > > selecting above from you post, presents a question, > > have you tried using another mouse? > That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Over the years I've had many mouse cords go bad right at the point where they enter the mouse body. I usually disassemble the mouse, prune back the cord, and resolder it back together. That fixes the wacky mouse behavior. -- _ °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registered Linux user No #267004 https://linuxcounter.net/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
On 02/01/2014 09:02 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote: <> > While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal. > Since this occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma > to eliminate Gnome. > The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3. Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole. The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is done. > I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on a button, it tends to double click. I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue appears with the local X server. selecting above from you post, presents a question, have you tried using another mouse? -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. tc.hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Text selection and mouse button sensitivity
I am running F20 with the latest updates, and recently there is a problem with text selection. While it is very prevalent in Thunderbird, I also had the problem In Firefox and in gnome terminal. Since this occurs across applications, I then installed KDE Plasma to eliminate Gnome. The problems definitely occur in KDE as well as Gnome 3.10.3. Additionally, I'm seeing some similar problems on Konsole. The problem is that in some cases when I try to select text I either cannot select an entire body of text. or sometimes a substitution is done. I also noticed that in Thunderbird sometimes when I left click on a button, it tends to double click. I sometimes run Thunderbird at work via X over IP therough an SSH tunnel to RHEL 5.10, and the problem does not occur so it seems that the issue appears with the local X server. As an example, I clicked at the end of the previous sentence and the background panel came up, so it seems that it is not restricted to an application or rendering engine. At this point I am wondering if anyone else had a similar problem. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
